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Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:34 AM

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On this episode of MythBusters, the team tackles the tallest tale of all in Moon Landing Hoax Hour. Did NASA pull off the greatest cover-up in human history?



Does gaydar bounce off the Moon?

Counterpoint: Apollo Mission Simulation Project



Astronots Gone Wild
www.moonmovie.com

Unofficial theme music for Mythbusters:
www.ufoetry.com/UFOetry_video_moon.htm


Col Buzz Armstrong and Josh Poet of UFOetry
We Never Went to the Moon directed by Pirate News
2-time Hollywood award winner!
www.piratenews.org/hollywood.html



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"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. This is the great dragon of chapter 12, Satan or Azazel. He has a number of names, but in each case, he is the king of all the demons, Lucifer, who became Satan."
-Revelation 9:11, Christian Bible, KJV with Forerunner Commentary

"One day, you're just Gene Cernan, young Naval aviator, the next day you're a hero, and American hero, and you've done NOTHING. I called the moon my home for three days of my life, and I'm here to tell you about it, that's science FICTION! We've been to the 'moon' nine times. Why did we FAKE it nine times? If we faked it?"
-Captain Eugene Cernan US Navy, Apollo 17, BBC, In the Shadow of the Moon, distributed by Opie, boycotted by Neil Armstrong




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Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:33 AM

HERO


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Did NASA pull off the greatest cover-up in human history?


Yes.

For years they have been playing a huge joke on crazy-talkers about how we never went to the moon. NASA is also responsible for most UFO Coverup Coverup Conspiracies and the 9/11 Inside Job Scam.

It all started when NASA realized that a certain percentage of the population would believe ANYTHING. Since 1967 Project Lets Screw With the Nutjobs (PLSWN) has been playing a huge joke on the Nutjob community. The truth about this project came out a short time later...but nobody believed it.

Since 1982 the PLSWN has been a black book project whose budget is concealed in the National Endowment for the Arts.

(That sound you just heard was PN's head exploding.)

H

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:41 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Why stop at the moon?

The Civil War
World War I and II
VietNam War
JFK assassination
1969 Jets Superbowl victory over the Colts
1980 US Hockey Team victory over Russia
George Reeves suicide
Marilyn Monroe suicide
Pee Wee Hermann exposure incident
Rosie O'Donnell once skipped a meal

All myths, never happened!

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:03 AM

HERO


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1980 US Hockey Team victory over Russia


Ironically this was a commie plot and it succeeded.

Lets just say this was NOT about hockey.

Its no coincidence that Kurt Russell played the American Hockey coach in Miracle, headed the US Special Ops team in Stargate, and defeated Lo Fat in Big Trouble in Little China.

H

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:27 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Was Lo Fat related to Wo Fat, the Chinese agent from Hawaii Five-O's pilot episode Cocoon?

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:22 AM

HERO


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Was Lo Fat related to Wo Fat, the Chinese agent from Hawaii Five-O's pilot episode Cocoon?


Yes. And he was involved in Project Gutenberg which is loosely tied to the film Cocoon starring Steve Guttenberg and the late Nazi-Jew Order of Queen Victoria Sir Wilford Brimley who is Prince Charles real father and former commander of the Tennessee Highway Death Squad Patrol(the boat they used was named PirateNews...swear to God it was).

H

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:27 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Hey dont forget... Kurt Cobain was killed b/c he was about to expose the ties between the (content deleted) and the (content deleted).

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:32 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Was Lo Fat related to Wo Fat, the Chinese agent from Hawaii Five-O's pilot episode Cocoon?


Yes. And he was involved in Project Gutenberg which is loosely tied to the film Cocoon starring Steve Guttenberg and the late Nazi-Jew Order of Queen Victoria Sir Wilford Brimley who is Prince Charles real father and former commander of the Tennessee Highway Death Squad Patrol(the boat they used was named PirateNews...swear to God it was).

H


OK, fine...but how then does that explain the rise of Chow Yun Fat?

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:13 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Occams razor, folks.

Since it was a huge coup in the propaganda space-race, NASA and affiliates used many photos taken from training sessions and badly doctored (by modern standards, not like they have photoshop 4, you know..) then presented them as actual footage to help spread media interest and catapult the propaganda.

So yeah, some of those pictures ARE fakes, or at the very least doctored - especially the ones where they would have HAD to been an external camera, and yet no footprints leading to and away from the camera mount ?


Doesn't mean we didn't go - it just means that like any other Government agency, NASA lies so much that they don't have any credibility, is all.

I think we did pull it off, but that most of the footage and images are straight bullshit, myself.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:12 PM

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John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


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"All we really proved was how easy it is to fake a Moon landing on Earth"
-Mythbusters



They did do a very good job of that.

Yeah, it looked like a PR ad for NASA, as condition for using NASA facilities. Discovery Channel is the Military Industrial Complex channel.

Mythbusters bouncing gaydar off the Moon only yeilded 3 photons out of 300-billion. Ham operators have been bouncing microwaves off the Moon since the 1950s, from their backyards.
www.dxzone.com/catalog/Operating_Modes/EME/

But they knew better than focus on real issues, the lack of rocket exhaust on the moon, or nuke radiation, or engineering.



MB's moonwalk video seemed to prove how easy it was to fake Moon gravity. The actual backpack weight on Apollo was 250 pounds (not 150 lbs), which is still 250 pounds of mass in Moon gravity. The new "apollo" backpacks will be 300 pounds when they "really" go the the moon in 2020 (after most skeptics are dead, and computer animation is more advanced).

MB cherrypicks their evidence. The flag waving only tested moving a flag pole, when Apollo video show the flag moving when atronots walk past it without touching it.



This puts doubt on all Mythbuster shows.

For example, Mythbusters "proved" an MP3 player cannot be powered by an onion. But I have a clock powered by a potato. http://scientificsonline.com/product.asp?pn=3034357&bhcd2=1219934964

So Mythbusters "re lies" on fine print, and laughter, to "prove" their points.

Next episode, is Mythbusters gay? Note that gays usually marry in order to reproduce the gay species (technically bi).

"Mythbusters gay" = Google Results 11 - 20 of about 323,000

Gay Sex Breaks Out on Mythbusters
http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2006/11/gay_sex_breaks_.html

Viewer Still Unsure if Mythbusters Are Gay
http://www.chaser.com.au/content/view/2891/72/


Does this photo make Mythbusters look gay?
Note Al Gore's college roommate
www.jfk-online.com/jfk100party.html

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:19 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Why do you have such a deep fascination with sexual orientation, and gayness in general?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:35 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Why do you have such a deep fascination with sexual orientation, and gayness in general?

--Anthony



No particular reason.

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Voodoo Economics, or just plain voodoo?

"When I was at the Bohemian Grove, Neil Armstrong was there, just a year after he stepped on the moon. His speech by the lake was called 'The Food of The Future: Oil'. Honestly! Even the fat cats around me were moaning on their way back to peeing on the redwoods. I was more disappointed that Armstrong never mentioned the Moon once."
—Amazon.com review of Hollyweird's mockumentary "Teddy Bears' Picnic" about Satanic Bohemian Grove presidential retreat and homosexual nudist colony

"But it's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time - it is the most faggy goddamn thing that you would ever imagine with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."
-President Richard "Dick" Nixon, White House audiotape, Nixon Presidential Library, 1971
http://www.prisonplanet.com/032604nixontape.html (audio download)

“I’ve been up to Bohemian Grove. It was a bizarre experience to pee on a tree with Henry Kissinger and slam drinks with William F. Buckley.”
-Actor George Wendt (Teddy Bears Picnic mockumentary about Bohemian Grove)

"I'm not going to end up tied down to a Pentagram with Henry Kissenger standing over me naked with his fat belly hanging out, holding a dagger in his hand, am I?"
—Alex Jones, from Jones' undercover video Dark Secrets, as Jon Ronson was briefing Jones on how to infiltrate Bohemian Grove for British Channel 4 TV
www.archive.org/details/DSIBG
www.infowars.com/bg1.html

Boners at Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113
http://garageband.com/artist/countercoup

Snuff Kiddie Porn at Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6497462494231069386
http://one.revver.com/watch/248515

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people."
-Leviticus 20:1-5, Christian Bible KJV

"And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
-1 Kings 11:6-7, Christian Bible KJV


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Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:24 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Occams razor, folks.

Since it was a huge coup in the propaganda space-race, NASA and affiliates used many photos taken from training sessions and badly doctored (by modern standards, not like they have photoshop 4, you know..) then presented them as actual footage to help spread media interest and catapult the propaganda.

So yeah, some of those pictures ARE fakes, or at the very least doctored - especially the ones where they would have HAD to been an external camera, and yet no footprints leading to and away from the camera mount ?


Doesn't mean we didn't go - it just means that like any other Government agency, NASA lies so much that they don't have any credibility, is all.

I think we did pull it off, but that most of the footage and images are straight bullshit, myself.

-Frem



GRAMMAR is the key to this mess. Uppercase Moon is the real Moon. All planets and moons are named in uppercase. Lowercase moon is the moonset on Earth. This way NASA can lie with a straight face, because it's not "really" lying. NASA Freemasons call it "hoodwinking", also a very popular torture for prisoners at Gitmo. Robots were sent to the Moon, and maybe a Russian one survived the landing. Maybe a Russian robot survived a return trip to Earth, carrying a tiny scoop of Moondust, which was then duplicated on Earth. There are probably several dead bodies splattered on the Moon, so there's another easy lie.

The trick is sending live humans to the Moon, returning them safely to Earth, AND those being the same humans paraded to the public. This, however, has never happened.

This is NOT to say the astronots were not GREAT jet pilots, or that Low Earth Orbit wasn't a GREAT accomplishment, though most were experienced serial-killing mass-murdering psychopaths, who preferred Apollo's moonscam to dying in Vietnam Wars. As good soldiers they would follow any order to lie, "for national security" (and their govt pension).


NASA docks with Russia as part of Apollo project

www.aulis.com published DARK MOON and the 2-video set What Really Happened on the Moon, which is the best rebuttal so far. They go into great detail on Russia's fake space race, partnered and funded by USA. Yuri Gegarin, "the 1st man in space", was just the actor. The stunt double did the real deal. Then Gugarin was killed in a "jet crash", just like NASA's favorite excuse. Dead men tell no truths.


NASA partnered with Russia as part of Apollo project

In the movie Contact, the CIA guru (Howard Hughes type) built a second machine at "twice the profit", after the terrorist attack destroyed the first. Just like NASA/Boeing/Lockheed et al.

Same for NASA and Russia, who used anonymous cannon fodder, with over 700 deaths, mostly on Earth. 11 NASA astronots died on Earth during Apollo, including the entire crew of Apollo 1. At least 30 US soldiers were murdered in a single test of Apollo spacesuits in S Korea, according to the CIA/military commander who accepted volunteers for the Project Paperclip Nazis in NASA (aka US Army Ballistic Missile program). Why would you need dozens of volunteers to test a single spacesuit at 400 degrees F? Unless each one died, just like Nazi death camp experiments in WW2...


NASA admitted the Russian Lunar lander was launched during Apollo 11

Russia is the only nation to send a man to the Moon. He died after half an orbit, due to radiation and perhaps temp. He carried a gun to kill himself if he had landed. The Russian lander was much superior to Apollo's tin can, and had much better visibility of the landing zone. This dead Russian allows NASA astronots to lie with a straight face, when they say "we" (planet Earth including our Apollo partner Russia) "went to the Moon". Astronots NEVER say "America sent living men to the Moon AND returned them safely to Earth."

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In the early 1970’s, the Soviet space program sent two lunar rovers to the moon (instead of sending men). These rovers survived many lunar day/night cycles, explored about 50 km of the lunar surface and sent back 100,000 TV images and almost 300 high resolution panoramas.

http://moonshot.walliseng.com/2008/05/22/60/



Russia was handed all US technology, including the space shuttle, which landed by remote control.



Now all NASA tech is outsouced to Communist China, which has already been busted faking it's own Moon photos.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/03/wchina103.xml

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"With Explorer 1, the highest rate we could observe was 2,000 counts per second. We were able to calibrate that apparatus after the fact. We did a laboratory calibration on a spare instrument using that calibration curve of 100,000 counts per second. The intense radiation saturated the counter."
-Dr James Van Allen



"Less reassuring news came from a team of cosmic ray experts at the State University of Iowa headed by Dr. James A. Van Allen. Both Explorer I and Explorer III, said Van Allen, ran into a belt of intense radiation at about 600 miles elevation. Each of the satellites carries a single Geiger tube to count cosmic rays. The radio transmitter of Explorer I sends a signal whenever the tube has made 128 counts. Explorer III has a magnetic tape that records the tube's counts during each circuit of the earth and reports to a ground station. When the Explorers' orbits were carrying them near the earth, they both reported reasonable numbers of cosmic rays, around 30 per second, but as they climbed up toward their apogees the count came faster. At 1,100 kilometers (684 miles) the tubes registered as high as 140 counts per second. Then a strange thing happened. As the satellites climbed even higher, the transmitters reported no rays at all. During orbit after orbit the counter of Explorer III was silent for 15 minutes. When the satellites swung down again to lower levels, they resumed reporting reasonable numbers of cosmic rays. Van Allen was sure that no ray-free belt could exist between the earth and space. The only reasonable explanation, he decided, was that the silenced Geiger tubes had been knocked out temporarily by radiation too intense for them to handle. So he subjected a spare tube to X-ray bombardment in the laboratory. After studying its behavior, he decided that the tubes carried by the satellites must have passed through radiation equivalent to 35,000 counts per second, but were so choked up that they could not report their experience. The belt may extend outward for two earth radii (8,000) miles before it disappears. Van Allen figured that the radiation level inside the satellite might reach about 0.06 roentgens per hour. At this rate a man would receive in five hours his maximum weekly permissible dose of 0.3 roentgens. A small amount of lead shielding would reduce the dose to a supportable level."
-Time Magazine, May 12, 1958

The first detailed description of the belt of lethal radiation that swathes the earth was given last week by Dr. James A. Van Allen. The Air Force's Pioneer, soaring far past the 1,400-mile level reached by the Explorers, confirmed "tentatively and partially" that the lethal radiation drops off sharply around 7,000 miles. Van Allen did not say so, but his diagram points out clearly that a cone-shaped area over the magnetic poles is almost radiation-free. Obvious conclusion: the space ports of the future may have to be in far northern Canada or Antarctica, where men can soar into space through the escape zones over the magnetic poles, thus eluding the lethal hazards of the Van Allen belt."
-Time Magazine, Dec 8, 1958 (Actually, the low-altitude radiation increases over the poles, giving airline pilots and passengers deadly doses of radiation of 100 X-rays per flight)



Plus Gamma Death Rays on the Moon are higher than on the surface of the Sun, according to NASA Moon maps.

The bottom line is Earth's Van Allen Radiation Force Field, Solar Death Rays and Cosmic Death Rays will keep humans on Spaceship Earth, probably forever. The NWO knows that, hence their plan to genocide 95% of the human race, to eliminate the competition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&ei=EGi3SKm
8MqfSqAKjjajtDA&q=endgame&hl=en


Just more prrof that USA produced the smartest idiots on Earth, ranked 27th in edjewkashun. Doh!



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Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:26 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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No particular reason.



Jealousy? Is it the parties, the orgies, or just the faboo costumes?




Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:00 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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No particular reason.



Jealousy? Is it the parties, the orgies, or just the faboo costumes?


Several members of my family are in secret socieites that have "gay" rituals in coffins, and two were invited to Bohemian Grove. I'm just glad I missed out on all the "fun".

Gays make the best liars, since they have so much more experience.

Hence they rise to top of psychopathic organizations, like govt.

Gays make the "best" cops and prison guards, since they love gay sex in jail. Gay criminals are not afraid of jail, because to them it's like a paid vacation with Playboy Playmates for roommates. That should be a concern of every sane person.

This is not to say that all gays are evil. Some of my family and friends were gay, usually due to PTSD from being raped as children, then denied treatment. Most pedophiles were raped as children, and never got justice when they needed it.

Nixon loved attending "gay" Bohemian Grove, as he admitted on White House tapes.
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"I am not a crook!"
-Richard "Tricky Dick" Nixon, president during Apollo "moon" landings, before his resignation


Nixon was president when the American Psychiatric Association removed "homosexual" from its list of disorders in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, in 1973. The APA at that time was doing MKULTRA mind-control kidnappings and tortures of little children and adults, including rapes, and had to pay millions of dollars in court settlements to the survivors.
www.mindcontrolforums.com/cbc1.htm



"'They're hurting us. Get me out!' The Government was playing with her brain. They opened up her skull and cut into her brain. The only reason you do that is to lobotomize somebody. They did it over, and over..."
-Dr Simon Tam, Firefly

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:34 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


"Gay criminals are not afraid of jail, because to them it's like a paid vacation with Playboy Playmates for roommates. That should be a concern of every sane person."

Hello,

I'm quite confident that what you have said here is a concern to every sane person who reads it.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:36 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"Gay criminals are not afraid of jail, because to them it's like a paid vacation with Playboy Playmates for roommates. That should be a concern of every sane person."

Hello,

I'm quite confident that what you have said here is a concern to every sane person who reads it.

--Anthony



An example from the Real World. A guy I worked with traded in his beautiful wife and baby, for a bank robbery and high speed chase, "because jail is the only place I feel secure." He added, "You haven't lived until you've seen a guy pull a doobie out of his ass."


Here's your sign

NSFW: First sign that your gay:
bp0.blogger.com/_R7DBahq56UA/Re9GhLq3vyI/AAAAAAAAAAY/ne-kZiUB-ao/s400/Gay.jpg

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Friday, August 29, 2008 2:26 AM

HERO


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
OK, fine...but how then does that explain the rise of Chow Yun Fat?


Yeast.

H

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Friday, August 29, 2008 2:55 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
But they knew better than focus on real issues, the lack of rocket exhaust on the moon, or nuke radiation, or engineering.

Rocket Exhaust is easy, the fuel used doesn't give off light when burnt. Many Fuels don't. A hot Hydrogen blast, the proffered propellant for a nuclear powered interplanetary rocket because of it's high exhaust velocity, would be invisible unless viewed in the infrared.

'Nuke' Radiation is even easier, they were exposed, but the radiation isn't fatal (without extended exposure) as long as you avoid the Van Allen Belts.

Why would they need 'engineering' on the moon exactly anyway?

The thought occurs, PN, that you'd be much happier and settled if you stopped the Gay bashing, admitted, at least to yourself, who you really are, and come out of the closet.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Friday, August 29, 2008 5:43 AM

REAVER21


I am not convinced either way were this "Faked moon landing" is concerned, but that episode of Mythbusters was an abomination. Especially since the show prides itself on objectivity.

Sprinkled throughout the show were condescending and unapologetic bias comments in favor of the "faked moon landing" conspiracy being nothing but a joke.

They used NASA facilities to test the myths. They used a NASA-made compound to simulate moon dust and then go "HA, take that conspiracy theorists!" as if that was a conclusive, unbiased test!

Then Adam shows up for a test wearing one of his cherished possesions - a NASA space suit - for the moonwalk test, once again showing that this episode was shot for the sole purpose of protecting their beliefs.

It's like getting a bunch of Christians to prove whether or not there is a God.

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Friday, August 29, 2008 6:47 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:

preferred Apollo's moonscam to dying in Vietnam Wars.









I thought everyone knew that the Vietnam war was a hoax "perped" by French Jew, Ho Chi Minh.

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Friday, August 29, 2008 7:08 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"Gays make the best liars, since they have so much more experience."

Did you ever watch the British reality show about teaching people to be spies ? The gay man washed out. My guess is that gays are often conflicted about their double-life. It makes them bad liars, not good ones.

***************************************************************
Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice.

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Friday, August 29, 2008 1:22 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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PirateNews wrote:

"You haven't lived until you've seen a guy pull a doobie out of his ass."



That's a keeper. You keep pulling things out of your ass; we'll keep laughing.




Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:54 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


NASA's velcro Earth-dust ("Lunar Simulant"):



Note how the camera only shows the footprint for a couple of seconds, and it still don't look like the "moon" photo. The "lunar simulant" dust was only in a vacuum for 10 seconds, which is not enough time to dehydrate the underground humidy from Earth's atmosphere, especially near a coastline with 90% humidty.

A REAL scientific test requires using the "lunar simulant" (2) without a vacuum, and (3) without a vacuum with moisture. Then compare all 3 boot prints, to see which one looks most like the Apollo photo. I bet #3. NASA manufactures TONS of "lunar simulant", just like they did during apollo.


Space shuttle thrusters use same fuel as Apollo LEM


MYTH BUSTED!

How did the remote-control videocam track the LEM with a 3-second delay due to speed of light? Was that part of Edgar Mitchell's experiment in ESP?

Next Mythbusters: Is there intelligent life on Earth?



Quote:

"Let me be clear: I am not gay and never have been. I should not have kept this arrest to myself."
-Senator Larry Craig

"It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations where the government might legitimately give out false information. It's an unfortunate reality that the issuance of incomplete information and even misinformation by government may sometimes be perceived as necessary to protect vital interests."
—US Solicitor-General Theodore "Ted" Olson, in Jennifer K. Harbury vs. United States (US Govt confessed CIA perps terrorism and tortures US citizens to death), at the US Supreme Court, on 17 March 2002; Harbury gave oral argument in her case pro se at US Supreme Court re CIA's torture and murder of her husband; Olson's estranged 3rd wife Barabara Olson, attoney at law and CNN talkinghead disappeared on September 11, 2001, allegedly on American Airlines Flight 77 that never hit the Pentagon
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US
&case=/us/000/01%2D394.html


"I don't trust government. And neither should our citizens."
—Senator Larry Craig, Committee on the Judiciary, "DOJ Oversight: Terrorism and Other Topics", testimony by US Attorney General John Ashcroft re George Bush Jr's Executive Orders to "legalize torture" of US citizens and refusal to release that memo (felony Contempt of Congress), C-SPAN2, June 8, 2004

"We don't torture."
-George DWI Bush


Uncle Scam is gay



Go Baaaaarack to sleep Amerika. Nothing to worry about here.

PS: I've been banned at Mythbusters forum, by a "Discovery" Channel that bans free speech.

I forgot the internet was built by DARPA.mil, those nice folks who specialize in Illuminati mind control.


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Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:24 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I bet you posted some nutty stuff on their forum, Piratenews.

You could have calmly, rationally, politely brought up concerns about their methodology. You could have raised the sorts of questions that make people think and reconsider their position. Who knows, you might have gotten them to do a follow-up episode at some time in the future, akin to their sun-mirror-death-ray episode. At the least, perhaps one of the show's people might have addressed your concerns on the forum. Failing that, the other forum users might see their silence as damning.

But you couldn't do it, could you? You had to go all out, full-steam frothing at the mouth conspiracy go-go with a twist of Nazi-Jews and weirdo photographs.

And that's why, even if you ever happen to say something worthwhile, you'll always be 'EPIC FAIL.'

You have no Earthly idea how to argue a point, or convince a human being of anything other than your lack of sanity. Someone who really cared about this stuff would try a lot harder to reach people. You seem determined to make sure no one believes you. Maybe all you really care about is watching the world burn, and then getting to say 'I told you so.'

Well guess what? You didn't. Not in a way that anyone could understand. You are as harmful to the process of truth as all the conspirators put together.

There was a really good X-Files episode once, Piratenews. Maybe you saw it. In this episode, it was revealed that the Men In Black were government agents who visited people that had experienced alien encounters. They'd drive up, all mysterious-like, with black sedans and dark sunglasses, and boldly declare: "What you saw was Swamp Gas reflecting light from the planet Venus!" And then they'd drive away.

When the alien encounter victim would relate this story to others, it would seem so incredible (as in, lacking credibility) that the entire alien encounter would be dismissed.

Well, the government doesn't need Men In Black, Piratenews. They've got you.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:04 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Another useless and impotent waste of time by ANTHONYT, with zero effort at arguing any point of science, engineering, mathmatics, physics, photography or logic.

80% of sheeple are useless on this planet. They are corrupt, greedy, selfish, ignorent, illiterate, lazy, foolish, gullible, and according to The Govt - criminal. They would never shoot a gun in self defense. They would never defend themselves in court. They would never defend their nation in time of war. They would kill their own children for a dollar.

Those sheeple I will never care about. They are lost forever. No argument can change them. The brainwashing and brain damage are permanant. They are the slaves.

10% of the sheeple are career criminal. I don't care about those crooks. They are my enemy. I want them to make mistakes and die ASAP. Most of them are out perping crimes and not reading forums.

10% of people are honest, intelligent, brave, hardworking and wise. Those are the only ones I care about. They are the only ones who will ever make an effort to improve the planet. I'm just making sure those folks are awake and ready to survive the current civil war.

So when the NWO tries to slaughter 90% of humanity, that's fine with me, except I'm gonna do my part to make sure the 10% that survive are the good guys and gals. Me and my family included.

All the rest of you losers can go inject, eat, drink, and breathe your poisons.

As for Discovery Channel, discovery is the last thing they want sheeple to do. Getting drunk on the couch is their real goal.

In other nations, EDUCATIONAL TV shows are the norm. This means SCHOOL CLASSROOM LECTURES on TV. Discovery Channel has those, at 5am, or pay per view.

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Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:31 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important



Sorry Piratenews,

Your techniques don't appeal to this magic 10% of humanity who you deem worth saving. (How magnanimous of you, by the way.) You see, that would presume that one out of ten people find you mentally hale, hardy, and reasonable. That would presume that one out of ten people can follow your Nazi-Jew Conspiracy logic.

Unfortunately, your primary appeal is to the mentally deficient who will believe anything anyone tells them from one moment to the next. The ones who watch shows on Cryptozoology on the Sci-Fi channel and are shocked, SHOCKED to discover that the 'rods' captured on video were moths travelling faster than the camera capture rate could correctly record.

The same people who were convinced, WITHOUT A DOUBT that the monkey suit in the fridge was a bigfoot. Or that there is a Loch Ness Monster even though someone already copped to the toy submarine hoax.

Ten percent... That's a magic number, Piratenews. It's the percentage of truth you include in your posts so that the deranged will buy the 90% unsubstantiated crapola.

Anyone with logic would recognize that your methods of spreading 'truth' aren't only ineffective, but counter-productive. If you want to learn a way to convince thinking human beings of something, read one of Frem's posts sometime. He's always well-reasoned and intelligent. Even when I don't agree with a particular point, I can never dismiss the man as a lunatic.

You could learn a lot, Pirate. Or has witnessing the beast fried your brain beyond usefulness?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:14 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


I just report the facts. Which horrifies most folks into dissociative identity disorder.

Sort of like finding out your spouse is cheating, spiking your food, and hiring a hitman.



Quote:

"All we really proved was how easy it is to fake a Moon landing on Earth."
-Mythbusters



The previous quote is censored on all Youtube clips of that epp, posted by Moon-huggers. It's at the beginning of the show.

Discovery Channel hates that I posted it on their MB-Lovers forum.

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Monday, September 1, 2008 4:21 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


The Moon Truthers are kicking Mythbusters butts, or rather MB are kicking their own butts:

Here Mythbusters shows trapeze wires clearly visible on the "moon" in Apollo:



At 0:15 Mythbusters shows Apollo LM "blasting off" from the "moon" without any rocket exhaust:



Quote:

"All we really proved was how easy it is to fake a Moon landing on Earth." - Mythbusters



Space shuttle thrusters use same fuel as Apollo LEM


MYTH BUSTED!

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Monday, September 1, 2008 4:33 PM

KIRKULES


Wow, PN has discovered that when you take photos under different lighting conditions you get different results. This could completely revolutionize the field of photography.

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Monday, September 1, 2008 6:38 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules:
Wow, PN has discovered that when you take photos under different lighting conditions you get different results. This could completely revolutionize the field of photography.



Yes, it is "different lighting conditions" between the Moon and the moon set on Earth.

Earth has no gamma rays, no X-rays, no 6-million-mph solar wind, and is not 400-degrees F AND minus-250-deg F at high noon.

No handheld camera or videocam can function under the real conditions on the Moon.

There's more killer gamma rays on the Moon than on the surface of the Sun. When cosmic and solar radiation hits the Moon surface it causes a nuclear chain reaction, which increases the number of nuclear particles smashing each other.



Quote:

Scientists at the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) have used the Kaguya (Selene) orbiting lunar probe to compile the most detailed data yet on the Moon, including a high-definition map, along with topography and mineral distribution. Data captured by the craft's multi-band imager, which includes a gamma-ray spectrometer, purportedly reveals uranium deposits near the lunar surface.

The Lunar Prospector Gamma-Ray Spectrometer (GRS) has acquired the first global measurements of gamma-ray spectra from the lunar surface. Since gamma-rays coming from the lunar surface carry information about lunar elemental composition, this data set comprises the first direct elemental composition measurements that have been made for the entire lunar surface.
http://lunar.arc.nasa.gov/results/gamres.htm


Gamma rays in Apollo landing zones


No Lunar orbiter, no space telescope, no Earth telescope has ever been able to take a photo of an Apollo LEM on the Moon.

But CIA's Google Earth can read your license plate from outer space.
http://earth.google.com

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Monday, September 1, 2008 6:55 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I was under the impression that a reflector was placed on the moon. I was also under the impression that a laser was bounced off of this reflector as part of a scientific experiment, with the result recorded.

Am I misinformed?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Monday, September 1, 2008 7:01 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Gamma rays and solar wind are a reality in the space outside the Earth's atmosphere. Do you contest that we have cameras and human beings operating in that space as well?

--Anthony

P.S. It's not remarkable that there are more cameras pointing at the Earth than at the moon. It's a rather essential concept to conspiracy theories and fear of 'the man' that people are watching us. All the time.

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Monday, September 1, 2008 8:14 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Gamma rays and solar wind are a reality in the space outside the Earth's atmosphere. Do you contest that we have cameras and human beings operating in that space as well?



No Walmart Kodac film cameras can function in space, which is what NASA claims in Apollo. The silver/platic film clouds or melts in the heat, or cracks in the cold. Videocams only function at normal Earth tempertatures, not at 250-deg below zero in shade, or 400-deg F in sunlight.

The Van Allen Radiation Belt Force Field Prison Planet Electric Fence has 100,000 gamma ray counts per second (after penetrating 1 mm of lead shielding), 100-Million Electron Volts, starting at 600 miles altitude out to 40,000 miles (or more in the downwind side of Earth). Space shuttles have to fly at 250 miles altitude or less. When shuttle atros get too close to the Van Allen Belt, the nuke radiation makes sparks inside their eyeballs. Apollo astronots never described sparks in their eyeballs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

Quote:

"With Explorer 1, the highest rate we could observe was 2,000 counts per second. We were able to calibrate that apparatus after the fact. We did a laboratory calibration on a spare instrument using that calibration curve of 100,000 counts per second. The intense radiation saturated the counter."
-Dr James Van Allen


www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,864535,00.html?promoid=googl
ep

www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,863443,00.html


The only way a geiger counter could survive a few minutes in the Van Allen Belts is when encased completely in 1 mm of lead shielding. Even then it measured fatal doses of radiation. Astronots don't get lead shielding.

Quote:

"Cosmic particles are dangerous, come from all sides, and require at least 2 meters of solid shielding all around living organisms. Earth's atmosphere provides about 30 meters of shielding."
-Professor John Moulding PhD, NASA employee on deep space robots, Prospects for Intersteller Travel




That's NOT counting deadly solar nuke radiation, nor deadly Van Allen Radiation Belts. Cosmic radiation doubles in space, away from shielding by a planet surface.

Spacecraft outside the Van Allen Belts require at least 6 feet of sheilding, or a self-contained force field (which itself might be fatal, like a massive overdose of Cat Scans).

The Moon and Mars have no liquid iron core like Earth, so they have no magnetic force field. Thus even NASA now agrees that no humans can visit the Moon or Mars.

Quote:

Space Radiation Too Deadly For Mars Mission

Space.com, March 31, 2008

Dangerous levels of radiation in space could bar astronauts from a mission to Mars and limit prolonged activity on the moon, experts now caution. The magnetic field of Earth protects humanity from radiation in space that can damage or kill cells. Once beyond this shield, people become far more vulnerable. Astronauts have long seen white flashes while in space due to cosmic rays, or extremely high-energy particles, passing through their heads. A return to the moon or a mission to Mars that NASA and other space agencies are planning would place astronauts at continued risk from cosmic rays or dangerous bursts of solar radiation. Still, much remains uncertain regarding the actual risks that space radiation poses for the body, explained committee member Walter Schimmerling, a scientist now retired from NASA's space radiation program. This in turn could rule out a mission to Mars, as well as long-term or multiple missions to the moon. To enable at the very least lunar missions with astronauts, the committee stressed that radiation biology research deserved the highest priority. However, the experts noted that NASA's space radiation biology research has been significantly compromised by recent cuts in funding, leading to major gaps in our knowledge of the health risks of radiation, such as cancer, neurological damage and degenerative tissue disease. The sun is a major source of dangerous radiation astronauts might encounter especially during solar storms that can erupt with little notice. The committee also recommended further research into forecasting these outbursts. "Lava tubes on the moon might also be useful as habitats from a shielding point of view," Schimmerling said. "I don't know how realistic the idea is, but they would have the advantage of reduced exposure to radiation."

www.space.com/missionlaunches/080331-radiation-shielding.html



The only reason we're alive on Earth is the Van Allen Belt Force Field, which repells or traps nuke space radiation, and pulls it into the Earth's poles, causing Aurora lightning storms.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_borealis
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Aurora&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=
2


Quote:

"As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say—and it's a great surprise to me that I have never had a dream about being on the moon. It's a great disappointment to me."
-Lt Neil Armstrong, Apollo 11, One Giant Leap: Neil Armstrong's Stellar American Journey




No photo has ever shown Apollo on the Moon
www.boulder.swri.edu/~durda/Apollo/ls_11h.html


You'd think NASA's gold tinfoil asshat would reflect sunlight...

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Monday, September 1, 2008 11:46 PM

CITIZEN


And the biggest tool award goes to PirateNews, for being a self-aggrandising Moron-Pyscho-Commie-Paedo-Closet Homosexual.

Even the stuff you get right is used wrong and you clearly don't understand.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/17feb_radiation.htm



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 3:59 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
And the biggest tool award goes to PirateNews, for being a self-aggrandising Moron-Pyscho-Commie-Paedo-Closet Homosexual.

Even the stuff you get right is used wrong and you clearly don't understand.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/17feb_radiation.htm



Good argument using NASA's confession they know nothing about space radiation, except admit spaceflight causes a 40% chance of cancer. Ha. The average person already has a 50% chance of getting cancer.

Here's your quote from NASA, lying their asses off:

Quote:


NASA Newsbot

On the way to the moon, Apollo crews reported seeing cosmic ray flashes in their retinas, and now, many years later, some of them have developed cataracts.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/17feb_radiation.htm



LIE. Space shuttle astronuts were the FIRST to report sparks in their eyes from nuke radiation, during the only flight that went over 400 miles altitude. Lots of old folks get cataracts.

When Bart Sibrel asked Apollo astronots about sparks in their eyes, they said they never saw any, refused to swear on a Bible they walked in The Moon, and proceeded to punch Bart in the face, kick him in the ass, headbutt his cameraman, and threaten to have the CIA kill him, all on videotape (Astronots Gone Wild).


www.moonmovie.com

Serial killer Colonel Buzz Aldrin punches journalist in the face



MYTH BUSTED!

If NASA really sent humans to the Moon, and they survived the trip back to Earth, they would KNOW the exact radiation levels, AND LIST EXACT NUMBERS, in charts, spreadsheets, radiation maps, colorized images, math equations, CGI animations, etc.

Instead, NASA always says "WE DON"T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RADIATION IN SPACE. AFTER 50 YEARS WE STILL NEED MORE BUDGET TO STUDY SPACE RADIATION. WE CAN'T GO TO THE MOON RIGHT NOW. MAYBE IN 20 YEARS. BOO HOO!"

Note that this article was written at Johnson Spaceflight Center, named for Jewish traitor LBJ, who approved the assassination of President JFK Sr, as confessed by Nixon's CIA Watergate burgler, E Howard Hunt, who was arrested in Dealey Plaza before anyone knew Lee Oswald was arrested miles away in a movie theater.
www.saintjohnhunt.com



The audio portion of this NASA report on deadly space radiation sounds like its narrated by a homosexual pedophile, talking to little children.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/17feb_radiation.htm

Quote:

"I am not a crook!"
-Richard Nixon

"All we really proved was how easy it is to fake a Moon landing on Earth."
-Mythbusters


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