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Will Wash Ever Come Back to us?

POSTED BY: ALLIETHORN7
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:33
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Saturday, May 12, 2007 2:11 PM

ALLIETHORN7


We all know that Wash deserves a new life- but, will he get it? Either in the BDM2, or a newComic, or whatever- do ya'll think that Wash will come back, either by cloning or spectral form or not having died or whatever- WILL HE?
I dunno.

-Danny

A Ghost is all that's Left,
Of everything we Swore we Never would Forget,
Tried to bleed the Sickness,
But we drained our Hearts instead,
We are... We are the DEAD!!!!!!!!!!

THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
My Master went to the Moon in a Rocket of Flamin' Cheese!

I LIKE CHEESE!!!

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:18 PM

THEONETRUEBIX


Flashbacks and/or stories set pre-movie (like the next three-issue comic).

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:18 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


In the new comics, he will be back, because the new comics are taking place before the events of Serenity. Joss said so. Beyond that, I don't know. There's plenty of fanfics exploring all the many ways he could come back, but whether he would in canon or not is all locked up inside the Man's head.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 4:21 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by Alliethorn7:
We all know that Wash deserves a new life- but, will he get it?



Joss has stated in a number of places that should a sequel be made both Wash and Book could return. He's a bit cagey on the details of how that would be accomplished saying only that magic definitely wouldn't be involved.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 5:47 PM

THEONETRUEBIX


He didn't say they could RETURN. Just that the characters could be used. Think flashbacks or holograms, not resurrection.

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 5:57 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by theonetruebix:
He didn't say they could RETURN. Just that the characters could be used. Think flashbacks or holograms, not resurrection.



From the OVC (page 36) "By the way, there is a strong possibility that everybody would return for a sequel. How is that possible? Not my usual way - there are no amulets to be had for love or money. But there's every chance you could see these characters again." Personally I think that suggests more than just flashbacks. YMMV.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:05 PM

THEONETRUEBIX


I'm fairly certain that "return" there is more referring to the actors than anything else. And then all he says is "see these characters again".

But regardless, the point is, Joss has always described the world of Firefly and Serenity as distinct from the world of the Buffyverse, where there's a revolving door between life and death.

There are ways to use these characters without suddenly deciding that death doesn't count.

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Saturday, May 12, 2007 6:36 PM

GHOULFISH


I thought that i heard rumors about the sequel (yet to be created) being set before Serenity Takes place.

Not sure if this is just speculation or not.



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Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:22 AM

ALLIETHORN7


Okay, so magic is out. I saw that one comin'. Clonin' is iffy. *Sigh*
But I get the feelin' that a Wash not in the sequel if (when) it comes out just... won't be the same. Even if it's a cameo or flashback- here, I'm hopin' te Alliance is better for more'n puttin' us 'Coats down.

-Danny

A Ghost is all that's Left,
Of everything we Swore we Never would Forget,
Tried to bleed the Sickness,
But we drained our Hearts instead,
We are... We are the DEAD!!!!!!!!!!

THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
My Master went to the Moon in a Rocket of Flamin' Cheese!

I LIKE CHEESE!!!

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Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:41 AM

NBZ


Whilst I think Wash was brilliant and would still like him to be around, I also think it would cheapen the show to bring him back from the dead.

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Monday, May 14, 2007 10:48 AM

KANEMAN


I'd worry about the BDH's coming back before Wash...Know what I'm sayin'..........

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Monday, May 14, 2007 11:27 AM

NBZ


yup. We Need someone to relight Firefly. Fanfic can only go so far...

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Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:46 AM

CAUSAL


Quote:

Originally posted by Alliethorn7:
We all know that Wash deserves a new life- but, will he get it? Either in the BDM2, or a newComic, or whatever- do ya'll think that Wash will come back, either by cloning or spectral form or not having died or whatever- WILL HE?
I dunno.



Well, I have no idea what you might mean by saying that Wash "deserves" a new life, but will he get it? No, I don't think so--not life a new life as such.

I'm pretty sure flashbacks, dreams, memories, or even plotlines involving extensive backstory are on the table in terms of how to bring Wash and Book back into the 'Verse. But magic is definitely out, so that limits resurrection options. Cloning might be an option on the table, but I have a hard time seeing how that could be done in a non-cheesy way ("Look everybody! Wash and Book are back thanks to the miracle of cloning!" That just doesn't seem to be Joss's style). Maybe Joss could come up with something, but my money's on the flashback-style reappearance.

In my Serenity-sequel-fantasy, we have two timelines: one post-Serenity timeline where the crew is being pursued by some baddie, and one pre-Serenity timeline that gives us Book's backstory.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:10 AM

WASHNWEAR


I almost dropped my popcorn when Wash got harpooned (somehow I'd avoided the spoilers and didn't see it coming) - if I have an alter-ego on the Serenity crew, Wash would be it. I'll miss his presence (and Book's) in any future Firefly/Serenity material, but I share the view that any way I can think of to bring him or Book back would be unavoidably cheap and cheesy (clones, apparitions, etc.). I mean, I got a little squirmy over the holographic headstones...but I blame a lot of that reaction on the last 5 minutes of Return of the Jedi. BTAIM, if JW can think of a way to do it, I'm prepared to be stupefied (always...always prepared to be stupefied)...

It was like that when we got here!

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Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:07 AM

CATWOMAN


I hope he does i was p#**ed when that pole when through him and he died!!

Bridget

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Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:33 AM

WASHNWEAR


Quote:

Originally posted by CATWOMAN:
I hope he does i was p#**ed when that pole when through him and he died!!

Bridget



Hmmm...I feel your pain (or, perhaps more accurately, Wash feels your pain)...there's a Browncoat by the name of CHUCKNORRIS currently holding forth under the "Why the ruddy hell did Wash have to die? Like WTF!" thread who seems particualrly in need of commisseration(sp) (unlike me, who has a Wash inflatable doll at home)...

I've been wrestling with this question for over a week now (when I saw "Serenity" for the very first time), and all I know is, there's no member of the crew I'd have willingly given up in his place...

It was like that when we got here!

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