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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
I clearly remember him saying he wanted to go into afghanistan, you obviously never actually listened to him speak. he wants to pull troops out of iraq, and he's working on doing that, so far he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Whozit- don't mistake your ignorance for everyone else's.

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Originally posted by whozit:
I remember him talking about wanting to do somthing about Pakistan, nothing about Afghanistan. Does'nt matter tho, it's Barry's war now, the Democrats and his whores in the press wo'nt trash HIS SURGE like they did Bush's. Also he's pulling troops out of Iraq and sending them to Afghanistan, my guess they wo'nt be home this Christmas either.

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Originally posted by SimonWho:

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Originally posted by whozit:
I remember him talking about wanting to do somthing about Pakistan, nothing about Afghanistan. Does'nt matter tho, it's Barry's war now, the Democrats and his whores in the press wo'nt trash HIS SURGE like they did Bush's. Also he's pulling troops out of Iraq and sending them to Afghanistan, my guess they wo'nt be home this Christmas either.

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http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_to_win.php

Note his pledge to send additional troops to Afghanistan and ask European allies to do more.

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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
he probably would, he hasn't had any significant time to make improvements, it'll probably take years.

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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
because Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, they had no wmd's, we had no reason to be there, afghanistan is where we should have been focusing all along, and we should be done there by now, but since we've essentially ignored it until now, we have to get the job done now.

and it should have always been ok to show flag draped coffins, every man and woman who serves in the military should be honored. that's true no matter who's president

Yes, "barry" should be scolded if there are civilian deaths, condemned is too strong a word, I don't condemn bush for it either, it's an unfortunate side effect of war, unfortunately war seems to be the only way we humans get anything done.

as for the 1st lady of france you're gonna have to check with her on that one.

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
To borrow Obama's phrase, we're not against all wars, we're against dumb wars. The war against Afghanistan was fully justified, carried widespread international support and was backed by the UN, as evidenced by the range of countries who have fought there. Had we focused on the task in that country, all the issues we're now facing would be, at the very least, reduced or even eliminated. Instead we have a reborn Taleban and an invigorated Al Qaeda patrolling around the country and parts of Pakistan.

That is Bush's failure.

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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
I was ok with the war in afghanistan when Bush went for it, then he used the fear from 9/11 to manipulate us into supporting his iraq war, and afghanistan got pushed to the side. had bush kept the focus on afghanistan, he would have continued to have my support.

So let me make sure you have this clear, it's not the change in commander that has changed my support, it's the change in location and objective.

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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
ok well since we're done with the intelligent conversation I'll call it a day.

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Originally posted by EvilDinosaur:
ok well since we're done with the intelligent conversation I'll call it a day.

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Originally posted by whozit:

It's Barry's war now and he wants a SURGE. So far only that booger eatter G. Brown says he will help....a little.

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
To borrow Obama's phrase, we're not against all wars, we're against dumb wars. The war against Afghanistan was fully justified, carried widespread international support and was backed by the UN, as evidenced by the range of countries who have fought there. Had we focused on the task in that country, all the issues we're now facing would be, at the very least, reduced or even eliminated. Instead we have a reborn Taleban and an invigorated Al Qaeda patrolling around the country and parts of Pakistan.

That is Bush's failure.

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