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6-6-06… Analyze, Prophesize, Organize… Armageddon Block Party…WooHoo

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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:00 AM

DAYVE


Well, boys and girls, I see by the old caesium-beam atomic clock on the bunkhouse wall that we’re rolling up to 6/6/06 and I haven’t heard much noise from the End-of-the-Worlders or the multitudes of Fuzzy-Wuzzys about the big day. So, with a bit of hesitation, I want to open this can of worms for discussion, debate or full scale sermonizing.

Here is your chance to throw down. Whichever branch of the great religious tree you swing from – be it: Christianity; Islam; Secular/Agnostic/Atheist; Hinduism; Buddhism; Primal-Indigenous; Sikhism; Spiritism; Judaism; Baha’i; Jainism; Shinto; Cao Dai; Zoroastrianism; Neo-Paganism; Unitarian-Universalism; Rastafarianism; Scientology; Followers of the Shoe….. or any newly coined ‘isms’ of the day. I want to hear your predictions on Tuesday’s ominous numerical meaning. Will there be a rain of toads, crack of doom, Glorious rejoicing, or simply stale pizza for breakfast..

About the only thing that I am fairly sure of is that there will almost certainly be a huge paper jam in the first floor copying machine. I think it is possessed by a chaos demon…possibly Grah-Hoth or even the Anti-Christ himself. I intend to keep an eye on this un-holy machine and have a pointy stick on hand just in case.

So, fire away – play nice and always remember to respect one another’s vague, superstitious beliefs no matter how ridiculous they may seem.

EDIT: 6/6/06... so far, so good... i did count 6 dead armadillos within a 6 mile stretch of highway before 6 am this morning...
eerie... but fairly normal for texas....



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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:03 AM

PENGUIN


Don't forget




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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:04 AM

TRISTAN


Hmm. Not really too much to say. My beliefs don't lean towards worrying about a human-created stamp for a temporal phenomenon...basically, it will be another random Tuesday for me. Might go see Omen though. And I will be partying with the Forsaken in our thread.





Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:09 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Since I never really credited the calender with any kind of meaning, I have to say I don't think anything will happen. "The Omen" will come out and people who are freaked out about that kind of thing will see the movie and be scared, and the world will keep moving on its course. Not to mention I never really credited the bible with much more than symbolic meaning. There's no Satan outside of our own selves, which means, well, no Satan can show up to rain hellfire on us. Unless we personally decide to sit in the dark and twitch on the Day of the Beast, there will be no misery. (Why is 666 the Number of the Beast, anyway?)
I too am surprised that the End-of-the-Worlders haven't been making a fuss. Shocked, even.
Anyway, there's my take. Have fun, Fuzzy-Wuzzies!

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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:10 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
Don't forget





I have been touched by His noodly appendage!

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Friday, June 2, 2006 5:47 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I have been touched by His noodly appendage!

I wouldn't spread it around, people might start to talk.

As we all know next Tuesday is judgement day, when Satan will rise to take his place at the forefront of the global British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jew who are responcible for all wars in their efforts to take over the world which they already control.

He will marry the German British Queen who controls the world with her German British mind Kontrol.

The NAFTA-CAFTA-SHAFTA-IWOULDLIKEAMOCHA will continue to enslave drink drivers whose drinking before and during driving is well known to increase your reactions and make you a safer driver.

For I read the book of PirateNews.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Friday, June 2, 2006 9:36 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


I'm personally waiting for the end of the Mayan calendar (2012). I've been hearing about it for decades, and I admit to some curiosity in how people will react when, in the immortal words of the Beetles - "it's just another day".

No slur on anyone who posts here who believes.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 9:37 AM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
(Why is 666 the Number of the Beast, anyway?)



Mark of the Beast
Revelation 13:16-18 states:
"Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell who does not have the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom: let anyone with the understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person. Its number is six hundred and sixty-six."

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Friday, June 2, 2006 9:40 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Having watched "pi" (great film), the Hebrew alphabet is associated with numbers. (Kabbalah) Could 666 spell something?


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 10:06 AM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Having watched "pi" (great film), the Hebrew alphabet is associated with numbers. (Kabbalah) Could 666 spell something?



taken from: http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htm

It might be argued by some that 666 must be applied to one man's name, and that this will then help identify him as the antichrist. I would offer the following verse to show that 666 need not apply solely to a man's name:

Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

The same Greek word translated as name (onoma: G3686) that appears in Revelation 13:17-18 is also used in chapter 19:16, so clearly the word can also apply to a title, and not just one man's name.....



check the link above for more than you really want to know about 666 - Hebrew, Latin and Greek translations

(pi - great film)

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Friday, June 2, 2006 10:31 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Now you are the third person, including me, who I know has seen pi.

About 6-6-06 - this is the absolute perfect time for those T shirts !

We aim to burn.

Don't fear the reaper.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 10:36 AM

DAYVE


if we all get past 6-6-06, my favorite tshirt have the date 1-20-09... bush's last day in office

btw... good post in the stolen election thread... i haven't gotten my Rolling Stone yet, but was anxious to read what Kennedy had written... thanks

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Friday, June 2, 2006 12:16 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY


And on that day there shall be much gnashing of teeth and a great rubbing of parts as Molech shall reveal himself to the world and then be arrested for lewd behaviour.
And God shall send forth his heavenly Angels and they shall appear in the 4,4,2 formation for the England football team in the world cup because we need a bloody miracle.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 2:08 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
in the immortal words of the Beetles - "it's just another day"



1) The name of the band is The Beatles.

2) Another Day was recorded by Paul McCartney & Wings.

I'm not sure which of these little faux pas has me more annoyed.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Friday, June 2, 2006 2:26 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


You caught me in some major errors there. The world's gonna fall apart now, I'm tellin 'ya.

But I apologize for the annoyance.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:25 PM

GUNRUNNER


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
As we all know next Tuesday is judgement day, when Satan will rise to take his place at the forefront of the global British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jew who are responcible for all wars in their efforts to take over the world which they already control.

He will marry the German British Queen who controls the world with her German British mind Kontrol.

The NAFTA-CAFTA-SHAFTA-IWOULDLIKEAMOCHA will continue to enslave drink drivers whose drinking before and during driving is well known to increase your reactions and make you a safer driver.

For I read the book of PirateNews.



If I were all you I'd be more worried about 6/7/06 because that’s the day I kill the British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jew overlords of Earth and take over. Suffice it to say Satan will be answering to me...

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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:35 PM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
we need a bloody miracle.



and like the mighty Phoenix rising from Arizona, the Nash shall lead them - past the woeful Mavericks... verily I say unto thee..... for the Nash is like unto water through the sieve penetrating the porous man to man d......
all praise Nash

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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:42 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
You caught me in some major errors there. The world's gonna fall apart now, I'm tellin 'ya.



The world can't end yet. The Cubs haven't won the world series.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Friday, June 2, 2006 5:04 PM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by daveshayne:
The world can't end yet. The Cubs haven't won the world series.



they're gonna get a couple more shots after the rapture....if they can't beat nobody, well it's the showers for good.....

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Friday, June 2, 2006 5:38 PM

FLORALBUNNY


citizen wrote (in part):
As we all know next Tuesday is judgement day,
============================
Better than that. Here in California, USA, we're holding a Primary Election.
Talk about contemplation of everything from evil to plain ol' stupidity...


bun
~6/23~Serenity/Firefly Summer~9/30~
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Friday, June 2, 2006 5:49 PM

DAYVE


Bun, seems every election for the past 5 years has been hell on earth....

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Friday, June 2, 2006 6:28 PM

FLORALBUNNY


...longer than five....far longer...

yesterday on the radio somebody asked why there was no place on the ballot that said just "NO"

...not even "none of the above" but simply "NO"

*the bun shakes her hanging chad and weeps in frustration*


bun
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Friday, June 2, 2006 8:05 PM

SASSALICIOUS


There will most definitely be a paper jam in the 1st floor copy machine because I inhabit that particular copy machine and like to wreak havoc on your workday. I may cause one in the 2nd floor copy machine as well if you aren't careful.

After I'm done ruining your day at work, I will be partying like the rock star I am in the Forsaken thread, even though I'm woefully behind at the moment.

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I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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Friday, June 2, 2006 8:55 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Dayve:

and like the mighty Phoenix rising from Arizona


...



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Saturday, June 3, 2006 3:15 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by Dayve:
Quote:

Originally posted by daveshayne:
The world can't end yet. The Cubs haven't won the world series.



they're gonna get a couple more shots after the rapture....if they can't beat nobody, well it's the showers for good.....



What makes you think the rest of MLB will get the disapearing act. It's not on the whole the most angelic organization.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 5:08 AM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by SonofMan:
time for Americans to realize that nows the time to act and expose this conspiracy, or many will be swept away in THE LIE



I've got to say that I agree with many of your assertions, the Real ID act being one that I've expected for some time now. And if indeed implemented, Biblical prophecy not withstanding, will, IMHO, be the harbinger of an Orwellian type of society in which the inhabitants of this country, and perhaps eventually the world, will be subjugated to the totalitarian, authoritative rule of a power, or force, not unlike that of what some perceive to be a demonic presence. And if, in fact, as many conspiracy theorists have asserted, this force has been with us since the dawn of mankind, whether man-made or from outside the realm of man’s consensuses, it does indeed seem to be gathering momentum at this particular juncture in the history of the world.

THE LIE that you speak of has never been more evident to me than in recent presidential elections. A vast number of citizens in this country have been reduced to willing pawns in a power struggle that, if successful, can only eventually perpetuate the class-based society. If the sleeping giant that is the citizenry of this nation refuses to wake up and learn to think for themselves instead of blindly accepting information that only benefits those in a position of power, then I fear for future generations of this country and the entire planet.

I know this may sound like something from a science fiction novel of apocalyptic end times, but science fiction is one thing that draws many of us to this site and these discussions. As we’ve all witnessed, many things that were, only a few years ago, considered merely science fiction, have come to pass in our lifetime. I’ve lived long enough to see things that those before me would have considered impossible, and so I reserve the right to keep all options open and all possibilities on the table.

Sonofman, thanks for your post, it is certainly food for thought.

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 5:30 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by SonofMan:

they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities?

SonofMan, you understand much, and post better. Thank you.

Skynet Chrisisall

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 5:44 AM

GUNRUNNER


Quote:

Originally posted by SonofMan:
yet, they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities? i mean...the hypocracy!

There is a saying among Intelligence Services and Spec Ops teams:

"The odds of success are inversely proportional to the number of people involved."

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 9:39 AM

CHOO1701


But the world can't blow up Tuesday.

There's the second part of Doctor Who on Saturday. And it was a great cliffhanger!!! (for us Brits that is...)



"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 1:48 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by SonofMan:

they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities?

SonofMan, you understand much, and post better. Thank you.

Skynet Chrisisall

I missed that quote. As to the question, of course they can't.

1 person can keep a secret, 2 people will find it a little more difficult, 20 even harder, 200 near impossible, 2000, 20,000...

This is something we see through out life. Very emotive saying 19 hijackers can change the direction of history with their conspiracy, but of course they didn't, did they.

The hijackers killed 6000 people, which is pretty much the limit to what such a small group can do and pays testament to how simple, vicious, audacious and for want of a better term brilliant their plan was, and indeed how badly the authorities fucked up.

What they did not do is change American foreign policy (from funding to killing terrorists I might add). They did not go to war with Afghanistan nor Iraq. Bush did these things and however you view the moral implications of these actions or how they are being conducted the leader of arguably the most powerful nation on Earth changing the course of world history is hardly surprising.

But if you really want to hear about an evil corporate conspiracy here's one:

Microsoft wants to control the entire software market and they'll stoop to illegal and underhand business practices and probably even bribing of officials to do it.

Shocking I know.



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Saturday, June 3, 2006 2:00 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by sonofman:
to christians, this system is the beast, and to suffer the same fate that the EU most definately has, and will..would be a travesty.

Wow, even the pope doesn't speak for all Christians.

But anyway, what exactly, in your opinion, is actually happening in the EU?



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Saturday, June 3, 2006 4:45 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Very emotive saying 19 hijackers can change the direction of history with their conspiracy, but of course they didn't, did they.


They changed a lot. Families all over the world will be in pain for years. They gave Bush carte blanche to speed up his agenda. They increased hatred for Muslims as far as the fearful and small-minded go.
Maybe they didn't change the direction, but they increased the momentum.

Chrisisall

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 6:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Citizen wrote:

Quote:

1 person can keep a secret, 2 people will find it a little more difficult, 20 even harder, 200 near impossible, 2000, 20,000...


Or, as Stalin put it, "Two can keep a secret, if one of them is dead." :)

As for 6/6/06, to me it ain't nuthin' but a number. Hell, 666 is just another number, too. Screw what "the bible says" - because unless you're reading the original stone tablets or papyrus scrolls in the original Arameic, you don't really have any idea what the bible says. You know what an interpretation of a translation of a translation of an interpretation says. (And it's still just a bunch of parables and simplistic moral codes. Might as well believe in and worship comic book characters). And even then, only if it was a gospel that was agreed upon by the early church. Entire books of scripture were edited, deleted, censored, and completely left out of the "accepted" teachings of early Christianity. Then in later ages, only nobility and clergy were allowed to learn to read and write, under penalty of death; no wonder kings were always chosen by "divine right"! "See? The Bible says it right here. I'm supposed to be King. Really. Trust me. That's what it says. Ask my bishop."

Mike

668 - The Neighbor of The Beast

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 2:58 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Chrisisall:
They changed a lot. Families all over the world will be in pain for years.

This is not a change in world history; this is what happens when a family member dies.

More people have died through terrorism in other countries and those countries haven't changed the course of world history.
Quote:

They gave Bush carte blanche to speed up his agenda. They increased hatred for Muslims as far as the fearful and small-minded go.
Bush had the agenda, Bush speeded it up. The people who hate Muslims increased their own hatred, because it's easier to be blinded by hate than to actually LEARN something.

9/11 is the excuse for a great many things today, and the cause of very few. The above statement tries to push the logical fallacy that if a small poor group can do something so can a large monied group.

Big corporations are permanently in the public view, small groups of fanatics disappear, you can look straight at them and miss them completely.

For a cogent analogy, try to smuggle a Mouse out of a Zoo. Once you've done that, try an Elephant.



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Sunday, June 4, 2006 3:11 AM

CHRISISALL


Citizen, you always pull that logic crap in discussions. So irritating....

Anyway, what I took from the above was: if a group with limited resources could effect a change, a group with near-unlimited resources could too.
Money can buy silence and make the holders of secrets disappear.

Black Helecopter Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 3:49 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Chrisisall:
Citizen, you always pull that logic crap in discussions. So irritating....

Get over it
Quote:

Anyway, what I took from the above was: if a group with limited resources could effect a change, a group with near-unlimited resources could too.
Money can buy silence and make the holders of secrets disappear.

Yes a large rich corporation can affect change. They do it everyday when the 'influence' the court not to break them up for anti-trust laws, when the 'influence' a rival CEO's bank account...

A big corporation’s conspiracy can be read about in the papers.

Let's say Megacorp is part of a conspiracy to have Megacorp Mind Kontrol chips inserted in peoples brains. Bob, from accounting notices that a huge amount of capital is just disappearing. He delves a bit deeper and finds it's going to a non-existent department.

Soon he delivers his findings to his Boss; his Boss delivers his findings to his Boss, who is in on it. Now there are two people who know something they shouldn't. So either they kill them, or they pay them off.

If they pay them off people might start too ask why it is that Bob and his Boss both suddenly left and are living in the Bahamas, the secret spreads.

If they kill them then Bob and his bosses respective families will probably start to wonder what happened to them. So they kill their families and they're extended family starts to wonder why they don't receive Christmas cards anymore. The secret spreads.

The more people and resources that a conspiracy requires the easier and faster it will be discovered. If you've got one Rabbit turd in your garden it's going to be easier to cover up than what's left behind by a herd of diarehtic Elephants.

Sure there's corporate conspiracies, but you can read about them in the Financial Times, we don't need someone with some sort of divine knowledge to point them out .

A nation or a corporation can do everything that a terrorist group can do and more, but they CAN'T do it in secret.



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Sunday, June 4, 2006 4:03 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:

Sure there's corporate conspiracies, but you can read about them in the Financial Times, we don't need someone with some sort of divine knowledge to point them out .

A nation or a corporation can do everything that a terrorist group can do and more, but they CAN'T do it in secret.


I just worry about the clods that think they can keep s**t secret, and do lots of damage before being found out.
*CoughEnron*
*CoughMKultra*
*CoughIranContra*

AND about spin doctors that can make the public not care or 'forget' about such discoveries.

Smart Evil Person to lackey:
"Okay, keep it secret, until it looks like it's gonna get out, then we blow it ourselves, and attach the proper embelishment, and by the time the truth is completely revealed, who'll care?"

Sheeple Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 4:06 AM

CITIZEN


That's kind of my point, all the big scary national and corporate conspiracies are right out in the open.

It's just that nobody gives a shit.



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Sunday, June 4, 2006 6:56 AM

DAYVE


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Originally posted by citizen:
nobody gives a shit.



and it's high time that they did...

btw, there are a few of us give-a-shiters around..but we are terribly outnumbered by the extreme don't-give-a-shiters.... which makes us give-a-shiters have to work that much harder to convince the non give-a-shiters to give a shit...

it's a perilous journey, but one worth taking...

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 4:08 PM

CITIZEN


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Originally posted by SonofMan:
to put it simply, the EU makes up the original Roman empire,

No it doesn't? I mean huh?
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and likewise the once sovereign countries have been consilidated under a single entity, the EU, and is run by a UN type government.
Erm no. Every EU country still has sovereignty. They still have their own governments, militaries etc. The EU is not a 'government' and what legislative body their is is comprised and constructed by the sovereign governments of member states.
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since the secret societies originated there, it stands to reason that they would be further along than we are
Which ones? The British-Commie-Nazi-Jews or the Jewish-Illuminati?
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if i am to use the UK as an example: they have 3-4 million cctv cameras and mics set up strategically all over the island
cctv yes, microphones no. The cctv is a might excessive, but most cameras happen to be around London military sites, so I don't see it as proof of the global Big Brother agenda.
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along with public posters that say "dont worry, we're watching over you"
I keep looking and I keep not seeing...
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plus theyve already got national ID cards.
Let me check my wallet.

Nope, no ID card there. Pockets, nope none there.

Maybe it's in my car, I'll check.

Err no. Guess we don't have ID cards then .
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and the people are largely unaware of it
Not surprised, there's microphones that don't exist, invisible posters and I've got this ID card somewhere that I know nothing about. Glad you can tell me these things from your position of obvious greater knowledge of the country in which I live .
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its a big brother agenda, and it was born in that region.
What you need is some accurate information, and no you won't get that from Prison planet. I suspect prison planet is at least one of the places you get your information from, largely because what it say's about UK ID cards is the same things you have said, It's utter crap BTW. We don't have ID cards, at all; I have severe doubts that we will ever have ID cards.

Gems like this show what a poor resource prison planet is:
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The government has put the brakes on such tactics by simply announcing, with no debate or legislation, that passports can now only be renewed for 9 months in advance.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406idcard.htm
Actually passports can be renewed whenever the hell you like, but you can only bring forward 9 months worth of your unused time. So you can have a maximum passport life of 10 years and 9 months.



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Monday, June 5, 2006 7:42 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


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Originally posted by SonofMan:
[-first off, the synoptics, the 3 gospils, WERE written by Matthew, Mark and Luke within a lifetime of Jesus', despite the popular claim of distant, numerous authorship. the book of John was written by a John, only we dont know if it was the apostle or the elder, yet theres no question of its authenticity. Paul, who wrote Romans..has letters dating to within a few yrs of Jesus ressurection. there are numerous 1st and 2nd century writers who confirmed this, including Papias and Irenaeus.





SonofMan where do you get your information? We do NOT know who wrote these gospels with any authority.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Monday, June 5, 2006 9:02 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



Bush Gang worshipping Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California on Summer Solstice, on June 21, 2006
www.lonelantern.org/bohemian_grove.html

Yeah, no worries. The mayor of the city of Hell USA is selling limited edition awards for celebrating 6/6/2006 in Hell, Michigan.

6/6/06 to be time for party in Hell Once-in-a-lifetime date observed
www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/base/news-7/1149259261258260.xml&
coll=2


Records for Satanic weddings are at an all-time high for 6/6/2006. All barcodes have 666, and the US Social Security number includes 666, etc. Genocidal Satanists run the White House, Congress, and most all other nations, and perform "mock" human sacrifices to a 50-foot tall "stone" idol of Molech, while dancing naked at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California, every Summer Solstice for over 100 years.

These same Satanic millionaires, billionaires and trillionaires will in Canada holding their Super Secret Society "Bilderberger" meeting, ariving in town coincidentally on 6/6/2006, to plot their latest genocides to enslave the planet.
www.bilderberg.org/2006.htm#ottawa

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They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon.
-Revelation 9:11, Christian Bible (KJV)



Jewish Kabalistic Numerology means everything to these Luciferians. That's why they perped the treasonous terrorist human sacrifices on 9/11/2001.
www.september911surprise.com

After reading the following, it sure does sound like Georgie Bush Jr. Note that The Beast 666 is puppeteered by Satan, just like Jr Bush is puppeteered by Cheney and Sir George "Magog" Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire, following orders of their masters in Europe.

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Revelation 13, Christian Bible (KJV)

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

www.biblegateway.com



Sure sounds like Jr Bush, waging pre-emptive wars on Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran.

Is Georgie Bush Jr the grandson of The Beast 666? That would certainly explain his memberships in Nazi Skull & Bones and Bohemian Club.

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George W. Bush, Barbara Bush, and Aleister Crowley

by Joseph Cannon
Cannonfire Blog
April 2006

Few people understand that one of the most notorious individuals in British history may have contributed to the lineage of our current president.

http://www.poeforward.com/poetrycorner/crowley/ac02.JPG
Grandfather of Georgie Bush Jr
www.poeforward.com/poetrycorner/crowley/links.htm

Aleister Crowley, a.k.a., "The Great Beast 666" -- the infamous practitioner of "sex magick" whose motto was "Do What Thou Wilt" -- came to know a great many remarkable people, including the maternal grandmother of George W. Bush. "Know," in this case, may be taken in the Biblical sense. Evidence points to the disturbing possibility that he was the true father of Barbara Bush, the former First Lady and mother to George W. Bush.

The story may seem difficult to believe at first, until one learns more about the social inter-relations that tied together these unlikely parties. Specifically, we must focus on a fascinating woman named Pauline Pierce, born Pauline Robinson -- whose third child was named Barbara.


Pauline Robinson Pierce
www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/thefamily/photo.php?i=1

Most sources divulge little about this woman. We learn more about her husband Marvin Pierce, the president of the McCall Corporation, which published McCall's magazine and Redbook. He married Pauline, a beautiful young socialite, in 1919. Their first child, Martha, was born the next year; the second, James, was born in 1921. At this time, Aleister Crowley inhabited what must have seemed a very different world, as he embarked upon the great communal experiment of the Abbey of Thelema in Italy.

Pauline, however, had a hidden side -- what we might call (without intending any judgment or insult) a wild side. We get a whiff of it from this Wikipedia entry:

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W magazine once described her as "beautiful, fabulous, critical, and meddling" and "a former beauty from Ohio with extravagant tastes"...

Rumors that Pauline had an affair with Dwight D. Eisenhower have never been verified... Still, gossip tabloids from the '40s often associated her with prominent men in politics and film.



I have not yet been able to acquire independent confirmation of the Eisenhower liaison, although I personally see no reason to doubt that it existed. However, we may well have reason to believe that she began her "experimental" period before the 1940s.


www.xprojectmagazine.com/archives/books/aleistercrowley.html

A sixth-level initiate within the OTO (the Ordo Templi Orientis, the mystical society that Crowely came to head in the 1920s) first set me down this research path by revealing that Pauline Robinson had befriended an woman named Nellie O'Hara, an American adventuress who, at some point during her European travels, met the famed writer Frank Harris. Despite his advancing years, Harris still maintained a reputation for sexual excess that rivaled Crowley's. During this period (1919-1927), Nellie and Frank Harris lived as man and wife, although they could not actually wed because Harris' second wife was still alive and would not grant a divorce.

Harris and Crowley were good friends. Not only that: At this time, and not for the last time, Crowley was very much the proverbial "friend in need."

During the Abbey period, a Crowley follower had accidentally died during a magickal ceremony. The incident created a firestorm of unwanted publicity (the sensationalist British press labeled Crowley "The Wickedest Man in the World"), which prompted Mussolini's government to expel Crowley and his followers from Italian soil. By 1924, he lived in poverty in France, where Frank Harris kindly took him under his roof. This arrangement inevitably brought Crowley into contact with Nellie.

Crowley's diaries, to which I have been given access, clearly indicate that he depended on Harris for financial assistance:

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January 3rd 1924 - "No luck about cash yet: but F.H. promises 500 fr to-morrow - so that I can bolt to Paris. One step onward to the Establishment of the Law of Thelema.



The money soon ran out, and AC (as his associates called him) soon had to ask his friend for further assistance. At this time, Harris was writing his multi-volume "erotic autobiography," My Life and Loves; he also purchased a newspaper, The Evening Telegram. But he lacked the resources and management skills to make the enterprise a success, and soon found himself in a financial position no better than Crowley's.

Despite his parlous economic circumstances, Crowley focused his attention on sex magick. Not many years previously, he and a follower named Jeanne Foster (a.k.a. Soror Hilarion) had conducted a sex-magickal rite designed to give birth to a child destined to carry on Crowley's work. I have not been able to determine whether he conducted similar experiments with Nellie, although given the polyamorous proclivities of all the parties involved, one should not discount the possibility.

Nellie's friend Pauline no doubt scandalized her social circle by traveling to France on her own and leaving two very young children in the care of nursemaids. However, her correspondence with her friend -- whose life in France with a famous literary figure must have seemed quite glamorous -- can only have inspired a sense of wanderlust. Her husband, increasingly bound to his duties with the McCall Corporation, did not share this spirit of adventure.

Thus it was that four individuals came together: Frank Harris, Nellie O'Hara, Pauline Pierce, and Aleister Crowley. Anyone who has studied Crowley's life will understand that what happened next was, in a sense, inevitable.

Crowley's diaries for this period record the initials "PVN," a cryptic reference to his favorite sexual position, which some of his partners found distasteful. (The letters derive from the Latin for "By way of the Infernal Entrance.") This is a common annotation in the records of Crowley's magical practices. We also find the strange initials "ECL." After researching the matter for some time, I have come to the conclusion that this is a reference to the practice known as "Eroto-Comotose Lucidity."

Before proceeding, I should emphasize that the year 1924 has a special significance in the Crowley chrnology. At this time, he is said to have undergone the "supreme ordeal" connected with his attainment of the Grade of Ipsissimus, the highest magickal achievement within his order. The exact nature of this ordeal remains mysterious. I believe that an important clue can be found in his description of the rite of Eroto-Comotose Lucidity:

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The Candidate is made ready for the Ordeal by general athletic training, and by feasting. On the appointed day he is attended by one or more chosen and experienced attendants whose duty is (a) to exhaust him sexually by every known means (b) to rouse him sexually by every known means. Every device and artifice of the courtesan is to be employed, and every stimulant known to the physician. Nor should the attendants reck of danger, but hunt down ruthlessly their appointed prey.

Finally the Candidate will into a sleep of utter exhaustion, resembling coma, and it is now that delicacy and skill must be exquisite. Let him be roused from this sleep by stimulation of a definitely and exclusively sexual type. Yet if convenient, music wisely regulated will assist.

The attendants will watch with assiduity for signs of waking; and the moment these occur, all stimulation must cease instantly, and the Candidate be allowed to fall again into sleep; but no sooner has this happened than the former practice is resumed. This alteration is to continue indefinitely until the Candidate is in a state which is neither sleep nor waking, and in which his Spirit, set free by perfect exhaustion of the body, and yet prevented from entering the City of Sleep, communes with the Most High and the Most Holy Lord God of its being, maker of heaven and earth.

The Ordeal terminates by failure---the occurence of sleep invincible--- or by success, in which ultimate waking is followed by a final performance of the sexual act. The Initiate may then be allowed to sleep, or the practice may be renewed and persisted in until death ends all. The most favourable death is that occurring during the orgasm, and is called Mors Justi.

As it is written: Let me die the death of the Righteous, and let my last end be like his!



If he did undergo this "ordeal" in 1924, then we must presume that his key associates of that time -- including Nellie and Pauline -- functioned as his assistants.

Pauline returned to America in early October of 1924. On June 8, 1925, she gave birth to a girl named Barbara. Barbara Pierce married George H.W. Bush, who eventually became the 41st President of the United States.

But who was Barbara's father? The chronology indicates that it could have been Crowley, but it could just as easily have been Marvin Pierce. The truth regarding Crowlean sexual rituals is disclosed only to the highest initiates of the OTO, in a document misleadingly titled "Emblems and Modes of Use."

Is Aleister Crowley the father of Barbara Bush? Even she may not know for certain; indeed, I have no way of knowing whether she has ever been told that this possibility exists. However, more than one person has noted the resemblance -- and this resemblance is not just physical. Many will recall the former First Lady's haughty and thoughtless remarks in the aftermath of the Katrina disaster. Those "in the know" were reminded of Aleister Crowley's similar reaction to the loss of life which occurred during the ascent of Kangchanjunga, an expedition he commanded: "This is precisely the sort of thing with which I have no sympathy whatsoever."

I leave the matter for the reader to decide.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.
html





Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller performing "mock" human sacrifice to 50-foot tall idol of Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Bohemian Grove
http://www.43places.com/places/view/379646

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"Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
-Jeremiah 32:32-35, Christian Bible KJV

More photos and news from Bohemian Grove:
http://www.nwowatcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=152



Whether we see anything live on TeeVee or not, the Satanists will certainly be celebrating their highest holiday in secret ceremonies worldwide.

Forget the lies of our oppressive Kaballistic Allied Governments.
-Huckster, The Message

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php

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Monday, June 5, 2006 9:54 AM

CITIZEN


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Originally posted by SonofMan:
alright..i apologize, i was mis-informed on the ID card matter. the last i checked, the EU biometric ID card had passed a few phases and seemed like a sure thing, but again i dont live there, so ill admit im ignorant and should have double checked first.

This is the problem with many sites like prison-planet. They do exactly what they accuse the main-stream media of doing, only worse and without any comeback. They don't give you the full picture, they don't outright lie, but they make it seem like everyone has *already* been forced too have ID cards .
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and i will say this, i was under the impression that this new abso-tv, where you can tune into some cctv feeds, were outfitted with mics..but ill grant you that on avg they dont(yet)-my mistake.
I still haven't heard of any mic's, but ASBO-TV isn't as big a thing as you might think and is also something I don't see lasting (though quite worrying if it does):
http://www.digitalbridge.org.uk/sdtv/crimechannel.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4597990.stm
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Originally posted by SonofMan:
now, correct me if im wrong, but does not the EU have: one central bank, and nearly one shared monetary currency?

Well sort of. The Euro is from a single bank (the European Central Bank) and is in circulation in 12 European nations by ~300 million people. But correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the US dollar in circulation through 50 states in use by ~300 million people in the US alone?
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a European superstate seems inevitably a matter of time at this point. if America united superficially with Mexico and Canada under uniform practices
The latter is far more likely than the former. Seriously a European Superstate is going to happen only one way and the Nazi's already failed. Also the US is an area that in both land mass and population resembles the EU and became a single superstate 141 years ago, so what exactly is the big problem with Europe following in the United States foot steps?

Are you yanks just scared of a bit of competition, huh huh .
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well it took a hundred years, but agent provocateurs, working at the behest of the central banks, staged this hyst against us, and pulled of the scam of all scams to bring this monstrousity into existence. now, in reality, todays currency is worthless paper, with no actual value (in America we've been off the Gold standard for almost 30 years now).
In so much as the US left the Gold Standard behind just like everyone else, yes. No one uses the Gold Standard, because it didn't stop market crashes, it didn't stop run away inflation like it was supposed to, it didn't work quite right so the switch was made to fiat currency.

But money is hardly worthless paper, it's also worthless metal and binary digits too .

But seriously if it was 'worthless' you couldn't exchange it for goods and services. 'Worthless' is a term used by economists who think for some reason that the stuff they have in their text books has some bearing on the real world.
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well for a government to buy money, AT INTEREST, from a PRIVATE banking institution is quite possibly the closest thing to serfdom as is possible today. the Fed chairman has the ability to manipulate the stock market merely by making a comment! and currently our citizens are in debt to them 6 TRILLION dollars.
Yeah, ain't capitalism grand?
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well its happening in the EU aswell, in fact it originated their!
I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about here.
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whos going to make the case that these Banks combined dont have the wealth, assetts, or connections, to influence government and public policy? especially when agencies like the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Tri-Lateral group, are direct front organizations, established by the same royal families and elite affiliations behind the banking institutions.
Yeah and if the entire world banded together against America in a war they'd win.
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the Roman empire, or as i was referring to primarily, the "revived Roman empire" is a bible prophecy regarding the end of the age, and the nations or regions which will comprise the beast and the reign of the anti-christ. Rome once occupied much of the same regions that now are under the umbrella of the EU. the bible states that Rome, the empire in existence under the death of Christ, would be revived for his return.
Or how about we look at it another way.

The United States used Rome's republican government as a basis for their own.

This can't be said for any European nation and certainly not for the UE.

The United States shows huge amounts of Roman influence in it's architecture. Am I also correct in thinking that American Schools still offer Latin classes?

Personally I'd say that the US was a far better candidate for a revived Roman Empire to the EU.
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secret societies, like the thule geselleshaft, the nights templar, the scottish Rite, just name your group...they all existed IN EUROPE!!..and from there spread out to the Americas. i dont see what is so hard to grasp about this concept?!..except that you seem to be skeptical beyond the point of objectivity,
I'm refusing to believe something without any proof. There's nothing hard to grasp about the idea that groups spread from Europe to the Americas, it's kind of obvious. The hard to grasp part is where shadowy devil worshipers are controlling the manifest destiny of man kind through Voodoo or some such without anything to back it up save saying that it's so.

The Scottish Rite, isn't that something to do with the Freemasons? How are they controlling the Universe?

Thule-Gesellschaft, well we've all heard of Nazi's.

Knights Templar, hate to break it to you but they weren't devil worshipers, that was the excuse the Vatican used when burning and torturing them and disbanding them in the 1300's. They don't exist anymore.

But hey if you really want to talk shadowy secret societies with unprecedented money and power the Vatican is a pretty good place to start.

You say I'm un-objective because I won't believe in conspiracy theories without proof, but you won't consider that there is no global Illuminati conspiracy theory to raise the devil, and you won't offer the proof of these conspiracies.



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Monday, June 5, 2006 9:56 AM

CITIZEN




Hey Pirate.

Could you ring which one of these people in the photos is George Bush and which one is her Brittanic Majesty the German Queen of England please? I'm having trouble picking them out.



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