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POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
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Friday, August 18, 2006 2:44 AM

DREAMTROVE


Where are the moderators?

I'm sorry to do this to you, because I have nothing against you personally, but Kaneman is over the line. Name calling, obsenities, just blatantly hostile trolling posts are troll-country worthy.

Kaneman, read this, and get the h-ll back in line. If you get the point, I'll delete this post and we can move on, I think you have stuff to contribute, and I like having you here, but if you don't respect the rules, you're going to get bumped.

Look above every posting box where it says

"I love freedom of speech just as much as you, but I hope that you will post messages that are at least somewhat civil and in good taste."

This forum has a board called troll country, and it's where posts like these the ones with this liberal language you use goes.

Let me know that you got the message, And I'll take this down.


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Friday, August 18, 2006 2:55 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


I would like to second this request.


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Friday, August 18, 2006 9:00 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Third and bump.

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Friday, August 18, 2006 9:20 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

As far as I can tell, Kaneman has two personalities. A nice one that deserves to be here, and another that is a rather annoying (and rather unimaginative) troll. I believe he once mentioned that his little brother occassionally takes over his account. I really hope that is true, and we've got at least one good person on the end of that screen name....


This was posted by Whitefall on the "How old are my fellow browncoats" thread. Could this be an planation for Kaneman's behavior? I don't remember him acting like this, not even a few weeks ago. It's a pretty drastic change for such a short time period.

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Friday, August 18, 2006 9:34 AM

MAVOURNEEN



Shiny posted on another thread (sorry, I forget which one) that if you PM him or Succotash with the offending posts, he will delete them. I guess they have Admin priviledges and are helping out Haken.

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Friday, August 18, 2006 10:09 AM

DREAMTROVE


Thanks Mav,

I wasn't actually trying to attack Kane, I just wanted him to fall in line. Come back to the exceptable standards of behavior.

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:11 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Thanks Mav,

I wasn't actually trying to attack Kane, I just wanted him to fall in line. Come back to the exceptable standards of behavior.



Fall in line? Which line? Fuck off! I follow no line. And sure as hell not some line created in the mind of a cyber dick...I rule ...Join the revolution. You big ole reactionary LOL!!!!!

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:23 AM

CHRISISALL


And with that I throw in my vote.

Pathetic Kaneman...swirling. Uncaring as he gets flushed. You piece of s
a *
g *
h ***
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No trolls Chrisisall

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:32 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


What about flushing the troll? Oh boy!

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:34 AM

MSG


It's probably due to his age. AS a teacher I see this a lot. Kids who are desparate for approval and attention, but who have few skills or behaviors that give them good attention, often seek it by acting out and trying to provoke others to pay attention to them. It's something he should grow out of as he get's older...just ignore him. You're only reinforcing the bad behavior when you pay attention to him:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2


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Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:42 AM

CITIZEN


Troll, Rebel Without a Clue or Enfant Provocateur?



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:51 AM

KANEMAN


Chris....Fuck you.

Chris eatsshitisall

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:03 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Chris....Fuck you.

Chris eatsshitisall



Chris has a new fan club President, I see.



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Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:22 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Chris has a new fan club President, I see.


AUR, you're having too much fun now.

Chrisisall

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:30 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
You're only reinforcing the bad behavior when you pay attention to him:)


She's a special case. There might be a multiple personality thing here.
I didn't know before, but am certain now that it's RiveR6213.
She needs to flush these other characters before she really loses us.

Hear that dudette?

Seriously Chrisisall

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:37 AM

CAUSAL


WAY back in the day (months and months ago) it was River6213 that was acting insane and generally making life less-than-wholly-pleasant. We tried working with "her" but "she" kept it up and eventually "she" got shouted down and then ignored, and ultimately just disappeared. Not long after that, Shadowfly shows up and makes "his" now-infamous appearance in the "Names and Faces" series of threads. He gets shouted down and disappears. Then Kaneman shows up (right in the middle of the third iteration of the "Names and Faces" thread) and picks up right where Shadowfly left off. Now, the interesting thing about all this is that this is one-and-the-same person (River=Shadow=Kane), who has claimed to have up to 17 accounts on this site. As each successive "troll" persona is rejected, a new one just takes its place, hydra-style. No amount of mod intervention will solve this problem. The deeply ironic thing about this mess is that this individual keeps coming back to this board because s/he gets the kind of reaction s/he is looking for. For crying out loud, s/he has his/her very own thread now! This person clearly has some sociopathic tendencies, possibly Antisocial Personality Disorder (see description at http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe04.html ). While that is a tragedy, I'm not sure FFF.net is the place for River/Shadow/Kane to go to take out their impulsiveness. I have to throw my lot in with MSG--any type of attention at all will only fuel his/her behavior. The only real way to respond to this (deeply disturbed) individual is to ignore him/her. S/he'll either conform to social norms or just go away.

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:46 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Causal:
WAY back in the day (months and months ago) it was River6213 that was acting insane and generally making life less-than-wholly-pleasant. We tried working with "her" but "she" kept it up and eventually "she" got shouted down and then ignored, and ultimately just disappeared. Not long after that, Shadowfly shows up and makes "his" now-infamous appearance in the "Names and Faces" series of threads. He gets shouted down and disappears. Then Kaneman shows up (right in the middle of the third iteration of the "Names and Faces" thread) and picks up right where Shadowfly left off. Now, the interesting thing about all this is that this is one-and-the-same person (River=Shadow=Kane), who has claimed to have up to 17 accounts on this site. As each successive "troll" persona is rejected, a new one just takes its place, hydra-style. No amount of mod intervention will solve this problem. The deeply ironic thing about this mess is that this individual keeps coming back to this board because s/he gets the kind of reaction s/he is looking for. For crying out loud, s/he has his/her very own thread now! This person clearly has some sociopathic tendencies, possibly Antisocial Personality Disorder (see description at http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe04.html ). While that is a tragedy, I'm not sure FFF.net is the place for River/Shadow/Kane to go to take out their impulsiveness. I have to throw my lot in with MSG--any type of attention at all will only fuel his/her behavior. The only real way to respond to this (deeply disturbed) individual is to ignore him/her. S/he'll either conform to social norms or just go away.

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I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.




It's 19 sissy boy! I am MSG idiot. Take your magic wand and fluffy slippers and stick em up your arse! And Citz I've been ignoring you. That is for your own good. Why chime in Citz? Why? Do you miss me? I can come out and play if you want me to Limey!

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 5:47 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
You're only reinforcing the bad behavior when you pay attention to him:)


She's a special case. There might be a multiple personality thing here.
I didn't know before, but am certain now that it's RiveR6213.
She needs to flush these other characters before she really loses us.

Hear that dudette?

Seriously Chrisisall



Sorry Sherlock..try again

Chris eatsshitisall
Well, it's true

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 6:48 AM

SIGMANUNKI


Assuming that Kaneman is being run by two different people, this is my solution. Make your voice heard if you agree/disagree in that thread please.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=23235

EDIT: It's a logout feature request to Haken, so that if there is a real Kaneman that is having his account hi-jacked, then he can logout to prevent this.

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:58 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


but, kaneman can't even throw insult's worth a damn, he's just a bit boring.

s'not worth making a fuss over or worrying about, would question the ASPD diagnosis in honesty, but to be honest, i don't think it's worth giving the time of day to working out their personality problems

have a giggle at their expense, mock them gently in the ways they don't notice, then forget they were ever here, t'ain't worth more worry then that ^^

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 9:06 AM

EMBERS


yes, boring...and really lame in the whole area of verbal comebacks....

what Kaneman really has in common w/River6213 is the pathetic need to be the center of attention,
wanting every thread to be all about him/her.

really needs to get a psychiatrist to listen because just a waste of space here at fff

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:16 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Chris has a new fan club President, I see.


AUR, you're having too much fun now.

Chrisisall



Way back, you got on me for not having enough fun on here. Now it's too MUCH fun! Have you been taking notes from past girlfriends of mine ?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 12:37 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Way back, you got on me for not having enough fun on here. Now it's too MUCH fun! Have you been taking notes from past girlfriends of mine ?


LOL!
That was a good one!

Been there Chrisisall

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 3:18 PM

DREAMTROVE


Kaneman,

You're being a dick to chris, and a few other people, and the mods made the rules clear.

You want to be an ass about it fine, I simply put this up to give you a nudge. I didn't mean it to be a war zone, you didn't respond until you vented the hate.

The truth is, this isn't my forum, and I'm not your enemy. I get the feeling it might do you good to take couth lessons from Jayne.

At the moment, you're just an arrogant prick with a foul moth and more a**holes than opinions. I don't think that helps the discussion. I intend to just ignore it and move on. Have fun.

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:03 PM

FOLLOWMAL


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:

Shiny posted on another thread (sorry, I forget which one) that if you PM him or Succotash with the offending posts, he will delete them. I guess they have Admin priviledges and are helping out Haken.



Everywhere I go on this board these days, there she/he is again.

I second Mavourneen... please let's all ignore this attention seeker and report the offensive posts.... no attention= she/he will hopefully cease or leave.






"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=19&t=22697

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:17 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Did'nt we have a similar conversation about Piratenews a little while ago?
The answer is to ignore, ignore and thrice ignore.

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:33 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN


let's get this A**hole gone!

you wouldn't be quite so passive about it if s/he claimed to be you, saying that you are one of RiveR < string of number >'s multiple personas, at least I don't think you would.

End of line.

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 4:00 AM

DREAMTROVE


"A troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive or offensive messages designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion."

Pirate News isn't a troll. Neither for that matter is TheRightStuff. A troll can't just be someone with extreme views, it has to be someone who is making it their lifes work to insult and interfere. Also, PN has an actual medical condition, so if he's sometimes belligerent, I don't think it's intentional.

Trolling, IMHO, is something that's completely under control, they know perfectly well that they're trolling, and it's not something you just happen to do, and they can stop at any point. They just get a kick out of insulting people.

There are a couple of people here like Auraptor, whom I disagree with on probably 90% of what comes us (which is usually federalism and foreign policiy) If other things such as faith-based initiatives, economic issues such as privatization of social security, etc. were to come up, we'd probably agree on a lot more because we're both conservatives. But I don't follow AUraptor around posting 'assraptor' or something like that.

'Chris eatsshitisall' is way way over the line, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. I think Kaneman can post logical intelligent things when the less-dominant sane personality is present, but when 'Mother' arrives, it's all stabby.

A sane person would have responded to this post with, sorry, I didn't realize I was crossing the line. I think that an anger management class is probably in order. I personally doubt the 27f, but on the internet, no one knows you're a dog, but everyone knows you're a troll.

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 5:55 AM

SAVEWASH

Now I am learning about scary.


In addition to being a troll, he's such a cliche. I hope he realizes this.



"We need to keep our heads so we can ... keep our heads."

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:44 AM

SEVENPERCENT


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Also, PN has an actual medical condition,


Delusional Psychosis? Paranoid Schizophrenia? Crazyasa Shithouserat?


Quote:

A sane person would have responded to this post with, sorry, I didn't realize I was crossing the line. I think that an anger management class is probably in order.

I'm sorry. My post about PN may have crossed the line. Perhaps I should stop teaching anger management classes, amd get my three times a day Turkish Black Mule heroin habit under control.

Quote:

I personally doubt the 27f, but on the internet, no one knows you're a dog, but everyone knows you're a troll.

There are no trolls above the age of about 16; it's a juvenile habit, one that evaporates with age. Any time you hear a troll say they're older than a teenager, they're most likely lying. Adults have better things to do than insult strangers on a message board, since mature people know that if you disagree with people on an internet forum you can just ignore them. Just my 7% on the issue.

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:31 AM

SIGMANUNKI


Quote:

Originally posted by SevenPercent:

There are no trolls above the age of about 16; it's a juvenile habit, one that evaporates with age. Any time you hear a troll say they're older than a teenager, they're most likely lying. Adults have better things to do than insult strangers on a message board, since mature people know that if you disagree with people on an internet forum you can just ignore them. Just my 7% on the issue.




In general I agree, but the fact of the matter is that there are people out there that are a fair bit beyond there teens that behave like this. Some people just don't grow up.

For instance, my sister who's in her 30's would fall in the troll catagory. Though she's a IRL troll (isn't exactly technically inclined), she's a troll none-the-less i.e. pretty much everytime I enter a room where she is, she tries to "poke the bear." There's no reason for it, she just attacks me whether I open my mouth or not. Whether what she says make sense or not.

It's sad really.

Just saying that there are exceptions to this rule. Maturity doesn't necessarily come with age.

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 2:28 PM

DREAMTROVE


It's not my job to diagnose PN, but he has gulf war syndrome. Since my sister is a counsellor at the VA (where yes, she actually does teach anger management classes) and deals with a lot of this, (GWS, but also paranoia) I'm somewhat familiar with it. I actually strongly suspect that it's his medication which is causing the paranoia.

Paranoia isn't entirely wrong, there are a lot of suspicious plots about you all the time. The thing is that paranoia is obsessive. You see the plots, many of which are real, and you elevate them in importance in your life above a level they deserve.

You get that troll thing under control, we might just upgrade you to 8%

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 3:12 PM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN


I agree with your call to decency because I have read some blatantly hurtful posts on some of the threads in here. I find these posts disgusting and shameful. I kind of find it ironic that you bring up obsenities since is included in the emoticons provided to us. I have no problem with obsenities as long as they're not hurled at someone in a hateful manner. Then again I also cuss like a mother sailor.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

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