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I support Bush because ....

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Friday, September 29, 2006 11:13 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Face it. No matter how much you try to pretend, no matter how much you deny it, you have a thing for him. He lies to you. He steals from you. He cheats on you. And yet, you can't break away. You know you should give him up. You know others don't understand, don't approve. So you lie, and sneak. It's not the 'liberals' who are making you chose him. It's you - your own deepest feelings. It's time to throw away your shame and come out of the closet. It's time to say -

I SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE ...


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Friday, September 29, 2006 11:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Huh. Nobody's biting. I'll wait for a while, but if nobody comes forward do I get to play psychiatrist and post for them??? heh heh heh

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Friday, September 29, 2006 11:41 AM

HORNSLONGTX


Because I don't like the alternative.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 11:52 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


hornslongtx

This is a safe environment, remember. No one knows who are are. You CAN tell the truth. Your response is no different from "the liberals made me do it." Which is a lame kind of excuse.

What are BUSH'S qualities that you agree with?

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Friday, September 29, 2006 12:00 PM

KANEMAN


.....He is the right man at the right time from the right. He may not be right all the time, but he is enough of the time on the important issues. I just wish he would treat the Mexican border as if it were Iraq. He, unlike most politicians and flip flop hacks, has conviction. This is quite refreshing after 8 years of slick willy.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 12:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What do you consider to be the important issues?

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Friday, September 29, 2006 12:04 PM

SASSALICIOUS


I DON'T!

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Friday, September 29, 2006 12:13 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
What do you consider to be the important issues?

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Just tryin' to understand.



The war on terror
Our energy policy
US border enforcement
The UN being useless to America
These all fit into my newly acquired isolationist outlook.


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Friday, September 29, 2006 12:47 PM

FELLOWTRAVELER


Because Reggie won the Heisman?

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Friday, September 29, 2006 12:53 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"The war on terror
Our energy policy
US border enforcement
The UN being useless to America
These all fit into my newly acquired isolationist outlook."

I'm really curious. I'd like to find out about specifics. Generalities are all very nice, but they just don't do the job for me.

For example, you support Bush's version of a GWOT. Is a gut-level reaction ? - you just want someone to kick-ASS. Or do you support specific things? And what are they? And so on down the list.

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Friday, September 29, 2006 12:58 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


C'mon now. All the rest of you. You know who you are. Don't be shy. You're really not going to find a better place to come out from your secretive little postings on select right-wing web-sites. Here's place where you can declare yourself out in public.

It really is time to come clean and be free.

TO HELL WITH CORRECTNESS ! I SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE ....

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Friday, September 29, 2006 1:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think they're afraid someone's gonna pounce.

So... I (urghhh)... promise (GRUNT!)... not to (gasp!) .... pounce! (whew!)

It's all yours!

I SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE.....

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Saturday, September 30, 2006 2:24 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


I sometimes support Bush when I agree with his stance on issues, such as War on Terror or Immigration. I sometimes don't support Bush when I disagree with him, on stuff like reproductive and gay rights, stem cell research, and religion in politics.

The reason you and I argue is that I don't see Bush as the source of all woe and an evil mastermind with an evil plot for world domination. I just see a President who won't go down as great, but won't be the worst either. This disrespects your Bush-is-evil belief system, so like a good jihadist you spread your hatred of Bush to include me.

I was going to end this post with a retorical "And why do you support...?" but then I realized I don't know of any individual that you do support.

So, is there anyone in the political arena that you consider worthy of your support, or is it all just hate?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, September 30, 2006 5:58 PM

EVILDINOSAUR


Yea, I don't support Bush, nor have I ever supported Bush.

"Haha, mine is an evil laugh."

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 7:44 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
I sometimes support Bush when I agree with his stance on issues, such as War on Terror or Immigration. I sometimes don't support Bush when I disagree with him, on stuff like reproductive and gay rights, stem cell research, and religion in politics.

The reason you and I argue is that I don't see Bush as the source of all woe and an evil mastermind with an evil plot for world domination. I just see a President who won't go down as great, but won't be the worst either. This disrespects your Bush-is-evil belief system, so like a good jihadist you spread your hatred of Bush to include me.

I was going to end this post with a retorical "And why do you support...?" but then I realized I don't know of any individual that you do support.

So, is there anyone in the political arena that you consider worthy of your support, or is it all just hate?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

"I realized I don't know of any individual that you do support." Uhmm ...doesn't that contradict your notion I'm a jihadist? A jihad aims to spread positive belief. If I am a jihadist, what am I jihadist FOR?

But, I don't want this thread to be a debate. We can and will do that elsewhere. This is a thread for your thoughts. As SignyM puts it - it's 3 ayem and it's just you staring at the dark ceiling alone with your your silent thougths. What are those thoughts? It's clear that overall you support Bush and there is very little he will do that you don't excuse. You maintained he didn't lie about WMD, when cornered with the truth you said 'so what?'. You support Bolton, support job out-sourcing, SS privatization, and administration corruption (among a whole long list of things). You even supported the detention of a man who did nothing more than write on a plastic bag? What I want to find out is, what in your mind makes the administration so worthy of your support in the face of that list?

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 7:45 AM

VINCENOIRROCKNROLLSTAR


oh sorry i thought it said i like eating bush

shoot the moon ...shoooooot the mooon

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 8:52 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
But, I don't want this thread to be a debate.



Really?

Quote:

He lies to you. He steals from you. He cheats on you. And yet, you can't break away. You know you should give him up. You know others don't understand, don't approve. So you lie, and sneak. It's not the 'liberals' who are making you chose him. It's you - your own deepest feelings. It's time to throw away your shame and come out of the closet.


Yep. Nothing like starting with a little rational discourse.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 9:16 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Even if you disagree with my list, Bush isn't perfect. So, what do you like about Bush that makes everything bad that he does worth your support?

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 9:48 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


I SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE:

I'm an armchair Nazi Apologist and he tells me it's Gods will that we do shitty things to our fellow man so that make it O.K.

OR:

I dont like to think for myself or have to worry about the things our parents and grandparents did like actualy having a conscience.

OR:

I'm in a well paid job so I dont have to give a fuck about the rest of you and can happily use the excuse that Bush is doing whats right to protect me so I dont lose sleep at night while the rest of you are grabbing ankle.

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 9:49 AM

SABRI3L


I don't discuss my views on religion or politics, its get gorram messy.

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 11:39 AM

ANTIMASON


KANEMAN-

you know that Bushs' administration has authorized, without congressional oversight, the construction of a NAFTA SUPER CORRIDOR that will stretch right through the heart of America?

think about this..we havent even secured the borders we have... so theyre building a NAFTA network of passages to allow free flowing travel acrossed the Americas?? explain this to me

explain how that keeps these "evil terrorists" out? the government tells us we need the Patriot act, the new detainment bill.. homeland security, and increased Federal authority..so they can track our phone calls and monitor our movements; only they want a wide open border?

http://infowars.net/articles/September2006/280906Union.htm

i really want an answer for this.. that doesnt support your isolationist desires does it? actually, it supports the premise of me and many others around here that BUSH is a front man, just like "slick willy" was.. to create a global government, ie the NWO

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 11:43 AM

MYCROFTXXX


I'm not biting.


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Sunday, October 1, 2006 1:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Bush supporters seem to be a very bashful group!

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 1:25 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


I'll support Bush. I'll support him while he walks his happy arse right out of the White House!


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Sunday, October 1, 2006 1:29 PM

PENGUIN


What a surprise to find you here, FMF!



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Sunday, October 1, 2006 1:29 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by antimason:
KANEMAN-

you know that Bushs' administration has authorized, without congressional oversight, the construction of a NAFTA SUPER CORRIDOR that will stretch right through the heart of America?

think about this..we havent even secured the borders we have... so theyre building a NAFTA network of passages to allow free flowing travel acrossed the Americas?? explain this to me

explain how that keeps these "evil terrorists" out? the government tells us we need the Patriot act, the new detainment bill.. homeland security, and increased Federal authority..so they can track our phone calls and monitor our movements; only they want a wide open border?

http://infowars.net/articles/September2006/280906Union.htm

i really want an answer for this.. that doesnt support your isolationist desires does it? actually, it supports the premise of me and many others around here that BUSH is a front man, just like "slick willy" was.. to create a global government, ie the NWO



True, but an administration comes and goes. It is not worth the time and energy to worry about the bad things an admin does, it will get corrected, if it IS the will of the people. Focus on the good and have a GOOD nights sleep...Well, it's true..If its not good and sticks around.... be mad at congress and the senate...they seem to be around through many admins.

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 2:17 PM

CHRISISALL


I support Bush because I recently lost my mind to fear and self-interest, my need to see a permanance of goodness in America drives me to see no evil on it's part, no wrong that cannot be justified.
In short, I am a scoundrel, and Patriotism is now my last refuge in this world that sees Bush for the inept, wrong-headed hawk that he is.


Forgive me Chrisisall



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Sunday, October 1, 2006 3:10 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Even if you disagree with my list, Bush isn't perfect. So, what do you like about Bush that makes everything bad that he does worth your support?



Maybe you should have actually read my previous post instead of just going off on your pre-programmed response.

Quote:

I sometimes support Bush when I agree with his stance on issues, such as War on Terror or Immigration. I sometimes don't support Bush when I disagree with him, on stuff like reproductive and gay rights, stem cell research, and religion in politics.


Support on some issues does not mean unconditional support. Nor does general policy agreement equal 100% agreement with everything the Bush Administration does. Why can't you understand this?


"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 6:13 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

Face it. No matter how much you try to pretend, no matter how much you deny it, you have a thing for him. He lies to you. He steals from you. He cheats on you. And yet, you can't break away. You know you should give him up. You know others don't understand, don't approve. So you lie, and sneak. It's not the 'liberals' who are making you chose him. It's you - your own deepest feelings. It's time to throw away your shame and come out of the closet. It's time to say -

I SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE ...



Worshipping Bush is defined as mental illness.

Quote:


The Stockholm Syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in an abducted hostage, in which the hostage exhibits loyalty to the hostage-taker, in spite of the danger (or at least risk) in which the hostage has been placed. Stockholm syndrome is also sometimes discussed in reference to other situations with similar tensions, such as battered person syndrome, child abuse cases, and bride kidnapping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome





Which makes sense since Bush is mentally ill.

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Munchausen Syndrome is a form of psychological disorder, named after the fictional representation of the German baron, Karl von Münchhausen, and his affinity for telling tall tales. It is described as a factitious disorder in which sufferers feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma despite varying degrees of personal risk, in order to draw attention or sympathy to themselves. The term has also been used to refer to medical professionals who purposely cause inflicted injury or discomfort to a patient so they are able to later treat or heal the patient and receive attention or compliments from co-workers; commonly referred to in modern parlance as "playing god". The current DSM (DSM-IV-TR: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - 4th edition - Text Revision) calls this disorder "Factitious Disorder by Proxy".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_Syndrome


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Sunday, October 1, 2006 6:51 PM

MINK


he is the President of the United States of America.

The one thing missing in this whole discussion is ... define "support".

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 6:51 PM

MINK


he is the President of the United States of America.

The one thing missing in this whole discussion is ... define "support".

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 6:56 PM

HORNSLONGTX


I agree that we can't give up in Iraq. I agree with his fiscal philosophy but not it's execution. I like his stance on most domestic polocies(mostly due to what the leftist alternative is). There are many things this administration has done that I have disagreed with (The USA PATRIOT Act, deficit spending, torture bill, etc.) But I have never heard a alterantive that I liked better. Ussually the "other way" involves going even further away from my basic political philosophy. So I support Bush because I don't like the alternative.

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 6:58 PM

HORNSLONGTX


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
hornslongtx

This is a safe environment, remember. No one knows who are are. You CAN tell the truth. Your response is no different from "the liberals made me do it." Which is a lame kind of excuse.

What are BUSH'S qualities that you agree with?



sorry that should have been on the above

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Sunday, October 1, 2006 8:32 PM

RIGHTEOUS9


Hornslongtx...how about an alternative to torture like say....not torturing? How about an alternative to deficit spending like um, not deficit spending? How about not invoking something as draconian and unamerican, as the Patriot Act, and instead adhering to American values?...I mean how elaborate an alternative are you looking for?

Those alternatives sound better to me, and they are in line with most if not all of the liberal alternative you speak of.

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Monday, October 2, 2006 12:17 PM

MARINA


Quote:

Originally posted by Sabri3l:
I don't discuss my views on religion or politics, its get gorram messy.

Knitter of Cunning Jayne Hats



I never met my grandfather, but the words of wisdom he passed down (in a letter):

"Never discuss with anyone your views on religion, politics, or women."

It seems like it's for the best. I'm with you.

I'm very smart.

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Monday, October 2, 2006 12:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'm seeing a lot of "there's no alternative". So, I'm curious: WHAT is it about "the alternative" that you dislike? How do you SEE "the alternative"?

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 3:43 PM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


I would love to, if I only knew what the alternative was. I might occasionally seem ambivalent and ambiguous about my political leanings, but that's mostly because I hate being pigeon-holed. I pick my battles on based on issues not politicians or personalities. I might lean right on one issue, left on another.

Is Bush Satan incarnate? No.


Was Gore or Kerry an Archangel? I really don't think so.


Here's the thing. Neither the Republican nor the Democratic Parties are what they once were. Neither Conservatism nor Liberalism as they are presented to us now are what they are supposed to be. The "Right" and the "Left" are vague descriptions which once were clear visions. I believe the Two Party System has failed us miserably.

The missing alternative has variously been made up of minor parties whose chances of winning that few take seriously. There are too many cronies and clubs and lobbies afoot. Is the nation polarized? You betcha. Is there an option that might bridge the gap? Not yet. I really think there needs to be. Maybe it's the Libertarians. Maybe it's someone else. The Reform Party might have had a chance because they didn't work well within the system, but who were they besides larger than lifers? The Green Party too special interest to work. The Independent Party? Where have they been lately?

Let the little guys run. Everybody was getting all over Nader for "stealing" votes. Please. Both elections should have been runaways, but it turned into a lesser of two evils coin toss. Florida should have been a non-issue. Whut th' people saw in Dubya was single-mindedness (single folks, not simple...), whut they saw in his opponents was a lack of credibility. Gore didn't have Willy's willy waggin' swagger and Kerry chameleoned too much.

Joss needs to run. Or Mal4Prez.

That's my thought, what's yours?

"Well, here I am."

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 4:22 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Well, I was gone for a few days and now I have to run off somewhere else.

What does support Bush mean? It means thinking that, overall, Bush is better than worse. It's not about whether Bush is better than than X person, or worse than Y person. It's about grading Bush himself on a scale of good <-> bad.

So for example, someone who posts roughly 20 slightly to highly supportive Bush comments for every slightly negative one on this board could fairly be said to be a Bush supporter.

What I want to know is WHY. Bush has many failings AND failures. I suspect Bushites either 1) deny them, 2) minimize them, or 3) truly don't care about them, because they are more focused on certain specific things they approve. That's what I want to know.

I SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE ...

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 4:28 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Quote:

Support on some issues does not mean unconditional support. Nor does general policy agreement equal 100% agreement with everything the Bush Administration does. Why can't you understand this?
Reply is here:

"What does support Bush mean? It means thinking that, overall, Bush is better than worse. So for example, someone who posts roughly 20 slightly to highly supportive Bush comments for every slightly negative one on this board could fairly be said to be a Bush supporter.

What I want to know is WHY."


And as a follow on, strictly out of sheer nosiness, I'm curious how many times in your life have you voted for someone who was NOT a white male republican, if ever.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 12:02 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"What does support Bush mean? It means thinking that, overall, Bush is better than worse. So for example, someone who posts roughly 20 slightly to highly supportive Bush comments for every slightly negative one on this board could fairly be said to be a Bush supporter.

What I want to know is WHY."



Then maybe I don't support Bush. I'm usually responding to a "Bush is Total Evil bent on World Domination!" post with an "Oh, he's not that bad." post. I just get tired of the wild accusations sometimes, and have to say so.

Quote:

And as a follow on, strictly out of sheer nosiness, I'm curious how many times in your life have you voted for someone who was NOT a white male republican, if ever.


Quite a bit, actually. I voted Libertarian in the last two presidential elections, for example. I believe your stereotyping is showing through.

BTW, I'm off to Montana to hunt the wily (and tasty) pronghorn antelope, so if I don't respond to your next post it'll be because I'm off the net for a while, not because I'm stumped for an answer.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 1:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I support Bush because the sheeple need to be herded and he's just the cowboy to do it.

I support Bush because even though he's a communist in Repuglican clothing, he's just a little closer to the middle than Marx and the Demoncrats fall somewhere in between.

I support Bush because he was named after a fine bottom shelf beer.

I support Bush because I'm still waiting for the gratuitous full frontal Bush shot.

I support Bush because I think it's pretty cool how he can piss all over the Constitution all day and with a straight face tell us that it's for our own good. "Yippie Yi Yay, 'merica. It's Geed fer ya! Take it! Take it!"

I support Bush because, sadly, we're going to need another Repuglican in office in 2008 so we can prevent having Hillary "Lucifer" Clinton in office spreading her Communistic ways.

I support Bush because the Liberitarian party will never win the election and that makes me sad.

I support Bush because MTV doesn't, and unless you're looking for hot girls to play the slap banjo to, MTV sucks now.

But most importantly, I support Bush because all of my government bashing is going to catch up to me real quick once he finally puts the brakes on that pesky "Freedom of Speech" thingy and they throw me in a cell in the Ministry of Love and throw away the key.

Bush get highest marks! Double plus good! I Love Big Bush!



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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 4:32 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Joss needs to run. Or Mal4Prez.



ALL RIGHT! Move over folks, I'm gonna run things now!!

First law enacted: 50% of all lobbyist money must go into the Firefly Seasons 2-7 Fund. WOOT!



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I'm the president. I don't need to listen.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 4:41 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by mal4prez:
Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Joss needs to run. Or Mal4Prez.



ALL RIGHT! Move over folks, I'm gonna run things now!!

First law enacted: 50% of all lobbyist money must go into the Firefly Seasons 2-7 Fund. WOOT!



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I'm the president. I don't need to listen.



NOW WE'RE TALKING!!

"Well, here I am."

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 4:48 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"I believe your stereotyping is showing through."

It was just a question, not a comment. I was curious. When you say "quite a bit" - does that mean 10 times in your life? 30% of all votes?

For example, I would say that roughly 40% of the time I do not vote for white male democrats. I think it's a subtsantial fraction. OTOH, if I could count on the fingers of two hands how many times I didn't vote for white male democrats, I'd say it showed a strong bias. So I was curious what 'quite a bit' means.

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"I just get tired of the wild accusations sometimes, and have to say so."

Well, that's what I mean by denial, minimizing, and not caring about evil.

I said Bush lied about WMD. You said he didn't. After it was proved he did, you said so what. I said there was torture. You said there wasn't, it wasn't covered by the Geneva Convetions, and it was just a few bad apples. When it was proven there was, you dropped the issue; never got on board saying torture is bad. The same pattern hold true for many topics - mass warrantless spying on Americans, altering science for politics, etc.

You are always denying, minimizing and ignoring the evil Bush does; EVEN WHEN PROVEN. Therefor you have a motivation to do so, when normal people would come to understand that this pattern says something meaningful about Bush.


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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 4:57 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


So are all white males--Republic, Democrat, Libertarian or whatever--are by virtue of being White and Male a questionable choice? When it comes to Presidential elections, with a few notable exceptions, and not counting write-ins, our Two Party system serves us few other options. Sometimes you need an ugly man to do an ugly job.

"Well, here I am."

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:57 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


I'm not sure what your question is.

In many elections all you get served are choices between two white males - either republican or democrat. And if you want your vote to 'count' you have to vote for a major party anyway. So I can understand how a VERY large fraction of votes fall one way or the other - white male republican/democrat.
But in local races and state races there is usually more choice. So what I was trying to get at is the overall willingness to consider other choices when they are available.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 6:57 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
I'm not sure what your question is...So what I was trying to get at is the overall willingness to consider other choices when they are available.



Gotcha. Sorry, haven't been in discussions with you before and I was testing the waters of your position. Somes gets bogged down in the vilifying the white guys just 'cause. I stand clarified.

My vote (when exercised) is based on issues, platforms, records, stances and yes, intangibles, not race and sex. (I'm old school: "Gender" is a linguistic term not a sociological one.)

Pardon the barge in. Carry on.

"Well, here I am."

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 7:36 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"Pardon the barge in. Carry on."

No problem at all.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 10:46 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by rue:
Face it. No matter how much you try to pretend, no matter how much you deny it, you have a thing for him. He lies to you. He steals from you. He cheats on you. And yet, you can't break away. You know you should give him up. You know others don't understand, don't approve. So you lie, and sneak. It's not the 'liberals' who are making you chose him. It's you - your own deepest feelings. It's time to throw away your shame and come out of the closet. It's time to say -

I SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE ...




Well, for starters, I've yet to see where he's lied or stolen from me. Were that indeed the case, I'd look elswhere for a candidate.

But as for why I support Bush, in no particular order....

Tax cuts - stimulated the economy.

Ambassador John Bolton - mabye W's greatest achievement.

Judges on the US. Supreme Court - Alito and Roberts, I mean. ( I'll forgive him for Meyers )

Taking the gloves off and fighting Islamic terrorism. - Even if he's still kept the glove liners on, he's made the right moves.

The Bush twins are pretty hot, and don't mind a good party. Gotta love that.

First Lady Laura Bush is all class. Unlike the former person to hold that position.

Bush likes tacos and Mexican food instead of McDonalds. ( hmmm...he might like Mexican food TOO much )

His mom looks like our 1st President!


And last......he's the decider!!!







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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 1:49 PM

MINK


Well, now that we've further defined "support", no, I don't support Bush. But I do support the office of the President, which means I stand behind him to some degree. I don't think he's a very good Prez, I thought Clinton was better, but there's been quite a few crappy P's in the past 230 years.

The Chavez school of Bush hating that seems so rampant throughout the world, including this country, is just silly dramatics, and a pretty low form of discourse altogether. There was a lot of Clinton-hating back in the day, and this is no different, just different people doing it.

To even begin to try to find some kind of moral equivalence between Bush and people like Chavez or Ahmadinejad is asinine and sucks all credibility right out of the discussion from the get go. Educate yourselves, for Pete's sake. But people actually go much further than that. It ticks me off, to be honest, and it's got nothing to do with Bush himself.

He'll be gone soon enough. Only we'll still be hearing the same nonsense from one side or another, because people don't change.

Edit: I'm not sure it's possible to like Mexican food too much.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 1:49 PM

MINK


Well, now that we've further defined "support", no, I don't support Bush. But I do support the office of the President, which means I stand behind him to some degree. I don't think he's a very good Prez, I thought Clinton was better, but there's been quite a few crappy P's in the past 230 years.

The Chavez school of Bush hating that seems so rampant throughout the world, including this country, is just silly dramatics, and a pretty low form of discourse altogether. There was a lot of Clinton-hating back in the day, and this is no different, just different people doing it.

To even begin to try to find some kind of moral equivalence between Bush and people like Chavez or Ahmadinejad is asinine and sucks all credibility right out of the discussion from the get go. Educate yourselves, for Pete's sake. But people actually go much further than that. It ticks me off, to be honest, and it's got nothing to do with Bush himself.

He'll be gone soon enough. Only we'll still be hearing the same nonsense from one side or another, because people don't change.

Edit: I'm not sure it's possible to like Mexican food too much.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 3:24 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


I SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE ...
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Well, for starters, I've yet to see where he's lied or stolen from me. Were that indeed the case, I'd look elswhere for a candidate.

But as for why I support Bush, in no particular order....

Tax cuts - stimulated the economy.

Ambassador John Bolton - mabye W's greatest achievement.

Judges on the US. Supreme Court - Alito and Roberts, I mean. ( I'll forgive him for Meyers )

Taking the gloves off and fighting Islamic terrorism. - Even if he's still kept the glove liners on, he's made the right moves.

The Bush twins are pretty hot, and don't mind a good party. Gotta love that.

First Lady Laura Bush is all class. Unlike the former person to hold that position.

Bush likes tacos and Mexican food instead of McDonalds. ( hmmm...he might like Mexican food TOO much )

His mom looks like our 1st President!


And last......he's the decider!!!

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There, see? No one threw thunderbolts at you.

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