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Jimmy Carter called out on anti-semitism!

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Monday, December 4, 2006 1:21 PM

CREVANREAVER


The worst U.S. president of the 20th Century, Jimmy Carter, has come out with a new book. It's title is 'Palestine Peace Not Apartheid'. It's a hate-filled screed against the right of the Jewish people to defend themselves against terrorism.

Recently, while being interviewed on C-SPAN, a caller called him out on his blatant anti-semitism.



F...k you, Jimmy Carter!

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Monday, December 4, 2006 1:40 PM

CARTOON


I haven't read the book, so I can't comment on it. However, Carter's been nothing of a disappointment to me for years now. At one time, I'd honestly believed he was a decent man, and when he started saying these crazy things, for a while I would give him the benefit of the doubt. A few years ago, however, I came to the distinct realization that he's quite bonkers.

I probably shouldn't admit this publically (particularly as a life-long conservative Republican), but I actually supported his bid for the White House in 1976 over President Ford. It didn't take long for me to realize what a big mistake that had been.

Although, everyone who knows that I supported Carter is either dead or has long forgotten by now -- except for one friend, who (fortunately) I don't see that much anymore. I'd hate for him to bring it up. (Although, if he did, I could always bring up how he supported McGovern in '72. Fortunately, he wasn't yet quite old enough to vote.)

I'd really like to know what happened to Carter. I'm left wondering if he was always this crazy, and I just wasn't perceptive enough to realize it, or if he'd actually (at one time) had a decent mind -- which has been ravaged by time and his party's bizarre agenda?

He's actually making his late brother, Billy, look like the sane one in the family.

What a shame.

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Monday, December 4, 2006 3:42 PM

RIGHTEOUS9


Crevanreaver,

please post some examples of his "hate filled screed" against the israeli right to defend themselves.

As it stands, your post sounds like so much rhetoric.

I heard an interview with him on the book and nothing sounded the way you paint it, but by all means, educate us.

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Monday, December 4, 2006 5:38 PM

DARKJESTER


The caller certainly had some choice names to call the ex-President. That's a great way to get your point across, call in to a talk show and call the guest names.

I'm not going to apologise for admiring Jimmy Carter. He has spent his post-presidential years trying to advance the cause of world peace, among other things. The Carter Center works to advance Human Rights, works towards erradicating diseases in the Third World, and offers to mediate conflicts both between warring factions inside countries and between nations in conflict. Not to mention the ex-pres personally showing up to help build homes with Habitat For Humanity.

Worst president of the 20th century? Hardly! He was too ineffectual to nab that title. Too busy trying to be a good man to be an effective president, in my opinion. Though winning that Nobel Peace Prize in 2002 sure should have showed him he had been wasting his time with that goody-goody stuff, right?

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Monday, December 4, 2006 6:02 PM

HKCAVALIER


So if a man disagrees with the policies of a government he therefore hates the ethnicity of the members of that government? The very idea is racist.

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Monday, December 4, 2006 6:17 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJester:


Worst president of the 20th century?



Aw hell....

He is just sore that GW has that title locked up already for the 21 st century.


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Monday, December 4, 2006 6:33 PM

SOUPCATCHER


Good luck with that, Righteous9.

Even though CrevanReaver has been around the RWED for quite a while, I have yet to get a feel for his "voice". What he is good for, IMO, is to serve as a gauge for the outrage du jour going around the right blogosphere. But to expect actual discourse? That would be out of the ordinary indeed.

* edited to add: Well, color me pleasantly surprised.

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Monday, December 4, 2006 6:51 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
It's title is 'Palestine Peace Not Apartheid'. It's a hate-filled screed against the right of the Jewish people to defend themselves against terrorism.

I have always admired Jimmy Carter precisely for understanding the complex situation in the Arab-Israeli conflict and supporting the right of Palestinians to self-government. What Israel does practice now IS apartheid. Maybe Israel thinks she has a good excuse for it, but it is still wrong. I am glad someone of Carter's public stature is speaking out against it.


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Monday, December 4, 2006 7:15 PM

CREVANREAVER


In Chapter 17, Carter writes, "Some Israelis believe they have the right to confiscate and colonize Palestinian land and try to justify the sustained subjugation and persecution of increasingly hopeless and aggravated Palestinians; and some Palestinians react by honoring suicide bombers as martyrs to be rewarded in heaven and consider the killing of Israelis as victories. In turn, Israel responds with retribution and oppression."

In laymen's terms, what Carter is saying is that he believes that when Jews in the Middle East defend themselves, they are oppressors. When Middle Eastern Nazis (aka "aggravated Palestinians") kill Jews, it's in response to oppression from Jews.

People say that the Nobel Peace Prize lost legitimacy when it was given to Arafat. No, it truly lost all legitimacy when it was given to that idiot peanut farmer.

JIMMY CARTER IS WORSE THAN YASSER ARAFAT!

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Monday, December 4, 2006 7:31 PM

CREVANREAVER


By the way, on the accusation that Israelis "confiscate and colonize Palestinian land":

Quote:

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented....Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us."
-- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi to the Peel Commission, 1937



Quote:

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not."
-- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian to Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, 1946



Quote:

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."
-- Ahmed Shukairy, United Nations Security Council, 1956



Here's are some interesting webpages:

http://christianactionforisrael.org/isreport/july01/history_palestine.
html


http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/palestine.htm

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Monday, December 4, 2006 8:13 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


I found it interesting that somebody put in all the villages that used to exist before the Israelis purged much of the Palestinian population in the fiftys into Google Earth.

Funny that when Israel uses armed force against an insurgent population, the US supports them, when Serbia does it they get bombed by the US ?



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Monday, December 4, 2006 8:23 PM

PIRATECAT


Jimmy Carter is a scum bag always has been. After 9/11 the arabs got to go. Could care less what libs from England think. Give back Ire before you bash Israel. Carter give back your farm to the Indians. They all are phonies who wil get your throat cut. Look the lib in England before WW2 Chamberlain sold out his people. The American press would comment on what Adolf had for breakfast. These are the same people who will tell you your racist while their family owned slaves and helped with the jim crow laws, 1st amend. for non amercians, and understand muslims while they don't want christian religon in school.

I like smacken em.

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Tuesday, December 5, 2006 6:15 PM

DREAMTROVE


How do I disagree, let me count the ways:


Quote:

The worst U.S. president of the 20th Century, Jimmy Carter,


Not even close. Truman, FDR, Johnson, and let's not forget Wilson. Clinton's not one of my favorites either. Jimmy Carter is my favorite democrat, because he actually understood that business and diplomacy were important. He even was seriously trying to do something about energy policy, and was not creating large scale social programs and wars like a typical democrat president of the 20th c.

Quote:

has come out with a new book. It's title is 'Palestine Peace Not Apartheid'. It's a hate-filled screed against the right of the Jewish people to defend themselves against terrorism.


I haven't read the book, but I find this hard to credit.

Quote:

Recently, while being interviewed on C-SPAN, a caller called him out on his blatant anti-semitism.





Okay. I listened.

What nonsense. Carter is a zionist. That's my major gripe with him. If someone think's carter is anti-semitic then I can safely ignore them because they will be impossible to please.

Zionism has no place in American politics. We should not be pro or anti any other nation on earth, we should be neutral, and neutral tending positive on our allies. We should never under any circumstance be pro- the expansion of a foreign power. We should only really truly be pro- one nation and that nation should be the United States of America.

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"Some Israelis believe they have the right to confiscate and colonize Palestinian land and try to justify the sustained subjugation and persecution of increasingly hopeless and aggravated Palestinians; and some Palestinians react by honoring suicide bombers as martyrs to be rewarded in heaven and consider the killing of Israelis as victories. In turn, Israel responds with retribution and oppression."


Sounds like a statement of fact describing what's going on on the ground. A lot of people in Israel think so too. Probably a majority.

But I don't know what the part of israel that is methyl-israel is on.

Quote:


After 9/11 the arabs got to go.



An anti-semitic rant! I knew I could identify one if it jumped up and hit me in the face.

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Tuesday, December 5, 2006 6:30 PM

AURAPTOR

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I live about 4 miles from the Jimmy Carter Library, here in Atlanta. I've never set foot on the grounds, and never intend to. My loathing for this man only grows with the passage of time. Instead, I plan on visiting the Ronald Reagan Library, which is clear on the other side of the country.

Jimmy Carter is an embarrassment and a national disgrace.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 4:32 PM

CREVANREAVER


Now even Carter's own people are turning against him:

http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=170792


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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 10:01 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
The worst U.S. president of the 20th Century,



Funny, I've got another candidate. Guy who got himself impeached, and resigned in disgrace. Name was Tricky Dick Somebody-- nix on him...

But maybe y'all are too young to remember that far back. Or maybe too partisan.

Oh that's right , I fergot- he was a victim of the liberal biased media.
Whereas, your even handed, objective, fair and balanced attack on Carter isn't biased.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 10:10 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


re Carter.
Somewhere in the commentary about Old Star Trek was a statement that Spock did not have the right temperament to command. He was plenty smart enough, honest and decent, but no good at command.
Which might sum up J C.
I don't doubt his faith, his honesty, or his smarts, but he didn't do a good job of leading the country, and he did bilge the BIG ONE. He shoulda started WW 3 if necessary, over the Tehran Embassy thing. ANd I'm dead serious about that. Civilized nations do not permit the kidnapping of diplomats, not even by civilian or militia groups within their borders.

It is not done.

And any nation that permits it should pay such a high price that nobody ever does it again.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 10:39 PM

CREVANREAVER


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Guy who got himself impeached, and resigned in disgrace. Name was Tricky Dick Somebody-- nix on him...



Nixon was never impeached. Get the facts right before you post.

In the 20th Century, the former governor of Arkansas was the one who was impeached.

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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 11:24 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by PirateCat:
Could care less what libs from England think. Give back Ire before you bash Israel.

Luckily "Liberals" and "Conservatives" alike in the UK couldn't give a toss what brain damaged morons think...

Give back Ireland? I assume you mean Northern Ireland, the mostly loyalist area whose majority wants to remain part of the UK? What a surprise, a conservative American who believes not only in an American empire but doesn't believe in democracy. You voted Bush right.
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The American press would comment on what Adolf had for breakfast.
Of course, a lot of people in the US liked Hitler, he was their hero, by the sounds of your post not much has changed.
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After 9/11 the arabs got to go.
Maybe you can put them in "camps" that "concentrate" them all together so that they can be with their own kind. Then if these "concentration camps" get too full you can send some of them for a "shower".

Aren't Arabs semites? Wouldn't that mean this is an anti-Semitic sentiment? Does anyone else feel the delicious Irony of some anti-Semite ranting against another for their anti-Semitism?
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for non amercians, and understand muslims while they don't want christian religon in school.
Because understanding Muslims aren't evil Satan spawn and not letting Christians get their own way all the time forcing their religion down other peoples throats are equivalent.

If you reply I expect lots of shouting about how it's not racist to call for genocide of an entire ethnicity, and in fact I'm the racist one. Get to it.



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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 11:25 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Guy who got himself impeached, and resigned in disgrace. Name was Tricky Dick Somebody-- nix on him...



Nixon was never impeached. Get the facts right before you post.

In the 20th Century, the former governor of Arkansas was the one who was impeached.



OK, you're right about that , if you split the hairs fine enough.

" He is the only U.S. President to have resigned from office. His resignation came in the face of imminent impeachment related to the Watergate scandal. Nixon's abuse of his office,..."
seems I remember the House voted yes on some articles of Impeachemnt, but I might be wrong about that, too.

He certainly came close. If he hadn't 'a "cut and run"...
But he still qualidies for the short list of worst...

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:35 AM

CREVANREAVER


Nixon wasn't impeached on any articles. That's why he resigned. It was based solely on an inevitable impeachment. The resignation was to avoid any of that.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 12:24 PM

DREAMTROVE


Nixon was a great president. His so-called impeachment was a social dem coup.
Nixon and Carter got along swimmingly with one another.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 12:43 PM

CARTOON


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Nixon was a great president. His so-called impeachment was a social dem coup.
Nixon and Carter got along swimmingly with one another.


Have to agree with Dream on this one.

Nixon's biggest mistake was saying that Helen Gahagan Douglas was "pink" right down the color of her underwear in his 1950 bid for her Senate seat. The liberal press never forgave him for that. That he also worked for McCarthy, didn't help, either.

The press never credited Nixon for the way he conducted himself in November 1960 when JFK's daddy bought him the White House. Nixon could've pulled a Gore, contested the election (and likely won -- as Joe Kennedy did have the fix put in several key districts in Chicago -- and probably elsewhere). But Nixon conceded the stolen election because the welfare of the country was more important than his personal political life.

Regarding Watergate, Nixon apparently was guilty of two things. #1) That he wasn't a very good judge of character, and picked some fellows for his re-election committee who were a bit overzealous (and felt that the law, as regarding "breaking and entering" didn't apply to them). #2) That when he found out about what they'd done, rather than hang them out to dry, he covered it up.

In hindsight, it's easy to say that he should've immediately fired the perpetrators (and their immediate superiors), and allowed them to be prosecuted for their clear violation of the law.

My guess, however, is that he was paranoid about how the media would handle the fact that some of his re-election committee broke into the Watergate Hotel, and felt he wouldn't get a fair shake in the press (and given their life-long hatred of him, he was almost certainly right about that).

If Nixon had done as he should have (and subsequently not been forced into resignation), Carter never would've gained the White House in 1976 (he barely defeated Ford as it was, even given the backlash against the Republican party because of Watergate). Who knows how things might've gone in Iran then? (Not to mention Iraq -- where, because of Iran, we backed that idiot, Saddam Hussein. And we all know where that's brought us.)

At the very least, we wouldn't be here talking about Jimmy Carter's incessant blunders and embarrassments to his country, as likely, none of us would've ever heard of him. (As in McGovern who?)

If only...

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:02 PM

DARKJESTER


Quote:


Have to agree with Dream on this one.

Nixon's biggest mistake was saying that Helen Gahagan Douglas was "pink" right down the color of her underwear in his 1950 bid for her Senate seat. The liberal press never forgave him for that. That he also worked for McCarthy, didn't help, either.

The press never credited Nixon for the way he conducted himself in November 1960 when JFK's daddy bought him the White House. Nixon could've pulled a Gore, contested the election (and likely won -- as Joe Kennedy did have the fix put in several key districts in Chicago -- and probably elsewhere). But Nixon conceded the stolen election because the welfare of the country was more important than his personal political life.

Regarding Watergate, Nixon apparently was guilty of two things. #1) That he wasn't a very good judge of character, and picked some fellows for his re-election committee who were a bit overzealous (and felt that the law, as regarding "breaking and entering" didn't apply to them). #2) That when he found out about what they'd done, rather than hang them out to dry, he covered it up.

In hindsight, it's easy to say that he should've immediately fired the perpetrators (and their immediate superiors), and allowed them to be prosecuted for their clear violation of the law.

My guess, however, is that he was paranoid about how the media would handle the fact that some of his re-election committee broke into the Watergate Hotel, and felt he wouldn't get a fair shake in the press (and given their life-long hatred of him, he was almost certainly right about that).

If Nixon had done as he should have (and subsequently not been forced into resignation), Carter never would've gained the White House in 1976 (he barely defeated Ford as it was, even given the backlash against the Republican party because of Watergate). Who knows how things might've gone in Iran then? (Not to mention Iraq -- where, because of Iran, we backed that idiot, Saddam Hussein. And we all know where that's brought us.)

At the very least, we wouldn't be here talking about Jimmy Carter's incessant blunders and embarrassments to his country, as likely, none of us would've ever heard of him. (As in McGovern who?)

If only...



And don't forget Nixon was a MASTER at foreign policy. What he accomplished with the Chinese I think surprised everyone.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:06 PM

CARTOON


Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJester:
And don't forget Nixon was a MASTER at foreign policy. What he accomplished with the Chinese I think surprised everyone.


That goes without saying. Nixon brought us to the table with both China and the Soviet Union. That was no small parlour trick, given our status with both of those nations in the two decades prior to his administration.

It's unfortunate that his bad choice regarding how to deal with the break-in (after the fact) has tarnished his otherwise very exceptional administration.


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Saturday, December 9, 2006 9:18 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Carter’s views on the Middle East, and most other things, are pretty wacked, but he is still a former US president and the caller’s attitude was disrespectful. You don’t call into a program to speak with a former US president and go off on a name-calling tirade like that. Now considering Carter’s own attitude towards criticizing sitting presidents, it would seem he has little more respect for the office of the presidency, but that doesn’t make the caller’s belligerent attitude right.

Saying that Carter is worse then Yassar Arafat makes someone look silly. You can’t honestly make that statement and know anything about Arafat.



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Friday, December 15, 2006 10:59 AM

CREVANREAVER


Here's a San Francisco Chronicle article on the Jimmy Carter anti-semitism controversy:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2006/12/13/cstillw
ell.DTL

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Friday, December 15, 2006 10:59 AM

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Friday, December 15, 2006 12:05 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Jimmy Carter is an embarrassment and a national disgrace.


If that's true, then by that barometer GW is a pre-meditated murderer.

But I suspect neither are actually the case.

Chrisisall

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Friday, December 15, 2006 4:35 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
If that's true, then by that barometer GW is a pre-meditated murderer.

But I suspect neither are actually the case.

pre-meditated MASS-murderer



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Thursday, December 21, 2006 3:46 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
If that's true, then by that barometer GW is a pre-meditated murderer.

But I suspect neither are actually the case.

That barometer is: a president that kowtows to terrorism is an embarrassment, but one who fights terrorism is a pre-meditated murderer? Not sure I buy that. Though I do agree with you that Bush is not a murderer and neither is Jimmy Carter, but Carter has indeed embarrassed the Clinton and the Bush administrations and it always seems like someone, both Democrat and Republican, are distancing themselves from one or more of Carter’s polemics. So while I certainly don’t think that Carter has any comparison to Arafat, I think it is certainly reasonable to say that he has become an embarrassment.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Friday, December 22, 2006 3:49 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
So while I certainly don’t think that Carter has any comparison to Arafat, I think it is certainly reasonable to say that he has become an embarrassment.


Truth is sometimes embarrassing.
Not that he has the corner on it, but he tells enough to stir things up.

Good on him Chrisisall

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Monday, December 25, 2006 10:39 AM

SKYWALKEN


In May of 2006, the ultra-liberal website Media Matters attacked Michael Savage for calling Jimmy Carter out on what he is...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605180005


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Monday, December 25, 2006 11:48 AM

CAUSAL


Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJester:


Worst president of the 20th century?



Aw hell....

He is just sore that GW has that title locked up already for the 21 st century.




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Monday, December 25, 2006 12:21 PM

HKCAVALIER


Anyone tell me who the hell this Michael Savage is and why we care what he thinks? At first blush he looks like Rush Limbaugh with a college degree. Jimmy Carter is "like Hitler?" Why, 'cause they're both vegetarians?

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Monday, December 25, 2006 8:00 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Michael Savage is the screenname for a radio talk show host and author named Dr. Michael Weiner, Ph.D. I’m sure that I wouldn't blanketedly compare him to Rush Limbaugh. His views tend to be much more diverse then Limbaugh’s. I’ve read several of his books and I sometimes listen to his radio show. Although I sympathize with many of his opinions, I think they are often more radical then I would care to commit myself. Although some might say that Savage/Dr. Weiner is telling enough truth "to stir things up."



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, January 19, 2007 8:22 AM

CREVANREAVER


Even liberal Alan Dershowitz is standing up to that anti-semitic bastard Jimmy Carter.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244303,00.html

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Friday, January 19, 2007 9:29 AM

ERIC


Jimmy Carter.

The only president to get an Arab country to recognize Israel's right to exist.

Anti-Semitic.

Right.

Asshats.

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Friday, January 19, 2007 2:55 PM

QUANTUMCAT




Perhaps we could get folks in the Middle East
to agree that all the folks abusing those poor
donkeys should forfeit their land,citizenship,
etc. and get some serious medical and spiritual
help.

After all,no rational being condones cruelty
and/or neglect.

Certainly no People of the Book would go along
with such actions.

Removing the perpetrators of such abuse would
free up a lot of jobs and property.

The parties responsible for the beasts' injuries
could get straightened out before they could do
further damage and be kept away from potential
victims before their dysfunctional behavior
escalates.

Maybe,if these warped folk weren't around,some
of the countries' other ills would diminish.

It's been said that those who would do great
diabolic acts would begin by hurting the most
vulnerable and 'insignificant'.

Today they victimize a stray animal,then a pet
or child,an elder or disabled person or spouse.

Tomorrow they may attack a neighbor or an 'enemy'.

Is all this genocide due to past conflicts and
ideologies?

Are there groups behind the hatred who would
dispassionately destroy others for their own
agenda?

Or do those infected with Despite use war as an
excuse to do on a wide scale what they would do
to anyone any day for no reason but that they
lack the will or the ability to act sane?

Maybe it's time to quit blaming groups for our
sin and start accepting responsibility ourselves.

Countries and sects and other groups don't rape,
murder,pillage or destroy the world we live in.

That's the work of individuals who do the crimes
or let them happen.

Let's stop minimising such acts by declaring
them 'acceptable damage' in pursuit of right.

Call it sickness,call it sin-but call it off.

Once the perennial abusers are excised from the
scene,maybe the rest of us could implement some
reasonable solutions to our problems.



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Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:47 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Eric:
Jimmy Carter.

The only president to get an Arab country to recognize Israel's right to exist.

Anti-Semitic.

Right.

Asshats.



Yep. Something he did 30 yrs ago washes away everything he's said or how he feels now. Never mind that more and more are resigning from the Carter Centre, specifically because of his anti-semetic comments and position.

Asshat

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:30 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
Even liberal Alan Dershowitz is standing up to that anti-semitic bastard Jimmy Carter.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,244303,00.html

I would expect that Dershowitz would have a lot to say about Carter’s position on this issue. Dershowitz is a strong pro-Israel hawk, and he’s ideal for rebutting Carter’s remarks. I’ve not read Carter’s book yet, so I don’t know what I can say about it, but the fact that many of Carter’s associates have come out strongly against him, tells me that he's really way off the mark with this book. With as weak a position as Carter may have on this issue, I would not want to go up against someone like Dershowitz.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:36 PM

SKYWALKEN


We're now learning more about Carter's history:


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Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:48 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Sadly, this doesn’t surprise me. The other day I was watching CSPAN and Carter was asked why his book did not include any comment on Palestinian children being taught to kill Jews in Palestinian public schools. Carter’s response to this astonished me. He argued that it was the same thing as Israeli text books not including maps of Israel that included the Palestinian territories. Assuming for the moment that the constantly changing borders of the Palestinian territories has nothing to do with it, how the hell can any reasonable person equate these two things?



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:50 PM

SKYWALKEN


Apparently Carter once complained there were "too many Jews" on the government's Holocaust Memorial Council and rejected a Christian historian because his name sounded "too Jewish".

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/staticarticles/article53954.html

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Friday, January 26, 2007 12:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nice man. Everybody hates jews, don't they?

It must be nice to be Jewish and be able to win every arguement by calling somebody a Nazi if they don't agree with you.

Go to hell.

Quite frankly, I'm just as tired of hearing Jews bitch and moan about everything as I am any minoirity. My life ain't all peaches and bubble baths bro. Everything about my life has been a struggle and because I'm white, male and hetrosexual nobody gives two shits. Can we please stop talking about stupid bullshit like this that does nothing but divide races even further, rather than heal them and bring them together?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, January 26, 2007 12:34 AM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quite frankly, I'm just as tired of hearing Jews bitch and moan about everything as I am any minoirity. My life ain't all peaches and bubble baths bro. Everything about my life has been a struggle and because I'm white, male and hetrosexual nobody gives two shits. Can we please stop talking about stupid bullshit like this that does nothing but divide races even further, rather than heal them and bring them together?


Hear, hear.



The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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Friday, January 26, 2007 1:39 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quite frankly, I'm just as tired of hearing Jews bitch and moan about everything as I am any minoirity. My life ain't all peaches and bubble baths bro. Everything about my life has been a struggle and because I'm white, male and hetrosexual nobody gives two shits. Can we please stop talking about stupid bullshit like this that does nothing but divide races even further, rather than heal them and bring them together?

A lucid post? What the fuck are you doing here. Pick up the rock and throw, the guy criticised the actions of some Jews you loony.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Friday, January 26, 2007 2:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Your post doesn't even remotely make any sense, whichever English you try to decode it in.

Care to re-word your statement so that English speaking, English speaking people may be able to understand it Gitizen?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, January 26, 2007 2:39 AM

KHYRON


Citizen was joking. He's got a good, sarcastic sense of humour, but sometimes it's difficult to tell when he's joking and when he's attacking somebody. This time he was joking. Let me paraphrase (don't forget to keep in mind that it's sarcasm):

"You said something that made sense!? How dare you say something that makes sense when almost everybody else is busy witch-hunting!?"

As I see it, he was giving you a compliment.



The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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