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Astronaut Arrested for Attempted Kidnapping?!

POSTED BY: CLJOHNSTON108
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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:50 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Okay, this is just bizarre!

Astronaut arrested on attempted kidnapping charges - CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/05/space.love/index.html



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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 4:05 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Okay, this is just bizarre!


Your comment betrays a shocking lack of understanding for the complexity and rigor of space travel. I don't understand what she did, but NASA has the smartest people in the world, so I'm not going to question the way things are done or why and simply accept that they are furthering my understanding of the universe.

H

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 4:28 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Your comment betrays a shocking lack of understanding for the complexity and rigor of space travel.


Whuh?

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 5:47 AM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY


??? did hero even read the story?

interesting article thanks clj...



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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 5:53 AM

SAHARA


Astronauts are people, too. Why should they be exempt from all the drama?

I couldn't believe this story when I first heard it. At first I thought it was some kind of geek joke!





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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 6:36 AM

SHINYED


I used to dream about becoming an astronaut, but after seeing her "before" & "after" pictures, I have changed my mind.

I think I'll stay with a career that doesn't age you and make you look like a baglady.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 6:54 AM

SAHARA


Quote:

Originally posted by ShinyEd:
I used to dream about becoming an astronaut, but after seeing her "before" & "after" pictures, I have changed my mind.

I think I'll stay with a career that doesn't age you and make you look like a baglady.



That could be the toll taken by space psychosis.

That woman's poor kids, though. I can't even imagine what they must be going through.

Who knew shuttle pilots were such playas? Is that a pilot thing?

Too bad the bad overshadows the good:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/02/04/spacewalk.ap/index.html





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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 6:58 AM

FLETCH2


Three things that need to be remembered.

1) You have no idea how old the file photo is, she became an astronaut in 1996, that's 11 years ago and it's quite possible that the photo is that old.

2) Mug shots are never flatering, just look at the ones we've seen of wayward celebs looking like something the cat dragged in. One of the things I love about police shows on TV is just how perfect the mug shots are compared to the real deal.

3) If the picture is from 1996 then she's had twin girls in the interim, I suspect that is probably draining.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 7:00 AM

CHRISISALL


Don't you have to be...er, sane to be an astronaut?


All my beliefs shattered Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 7:03 AM

SAHARA


If you want to see some spectacular mug shots, check out:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html



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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 7:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I thought they did psychological profiles on these people! Aren't they supposed to be stable, able to work well with a lot of ppl, and up to the rigors of stress and long hours in small quarters with.... oh, nevermind!

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 8:06 AM

FLETCH2


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Don't you have to be...er, sane to be an astronaut?


All my beliefs shattered Chrisisall



Actually I think it helps to be a little insane. As America's first Astronaut said.

It’s a very sobering feeling to be up in space and realize that one’s safety factor was determined by the lowest bidder on a government contract.
— Alan Sheppard


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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 8:40 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Okay, this is just bizarre!


Your comment betrays a shocking lack of understanding for the complexity and rigor of space travel. I don't understand what she did, but NASA has the smartest people in the world, so I'm not going to question the way things are done or why and simply accept that they are furthering my understanding of the universe.

H




And as usual, your comment betrays a shocking lack of understanding about, well , anything.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 9:30 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
And as usual, your comment betrays a shocking lack of understanding about, well , anything.



Here's what I understand:
Sarcasm
Quote:


One entry found for sarcasm.


Main Entry: sar·casm
Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm



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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 11:19 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

sahara wrote:
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 06:54

Quote:


Originally posted by ShinyEd:
I used to dream about becoming an astronaut, but after seeing her "before" & "after" pictures, I have changed my mind.

I think I'll stay with a career that doesn't age you and make you look like a baglady.




That could be the toll taken by space psychosis.




As I heard it( but don't know for certain ), 3 of her classmates in the NASA program were lost on the Columbia mission. Don't underestimate that weight she's been carrying around as she continued on w/ the shuttle program.

The shuttle program is winding down. There are only a limited number of missions left, with so many astronauts to fly those missions. The pressure to stay at the very top of the top at NASA and be awarded another chance to fly must be immense.

I mention these things not as a defense, but just to show that it likely isn't just a 'NASA' thing. Just that there could be all sorts of things going on in her life, we have no idea.

That all involved in this triangle are married, and that kids are involved in at least the suspects case, is a real tragedy.

The charges against her have been raised to 'Attempted Murder', which means a whole new world of suck. I'll bet she's wishing she'd just stayed home right about now.


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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 12:07 PM

SOUPCATCHER


Well I'm reading the article, thinking to myself, "Chasing someone through a parking lot at night and spraying them with pepper spray? Not that much of a stretch when emotions run high." and then I got to this part:
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excerpted from CNN article
...

Inside a bag Nowak was carrying, the officer found a tan trench coat, a new steel mallet, a new folding knife with a 4-inch blade, 3 to 4 feet of rubber tubing, large plastic garbage bags and about $600 in cash, the report said.

Nowak admitted the details of Shipman's allegations, according to the police report, and permitted a search of her car.

Inside the car, police found an a half-dozen latex gloves, MapQuest directions from Houston to Orlando International Airport, e-mails from Shipman to Oefelein, diapers that Nowak said she used to eliminate stops along the highway, a letter indicating how much she loved Oefelein and directions to Shipman's home address in Florida, the report said.

...


(Scooby) Urrrrhhhh?!? (/Scooby)

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 12:16 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Sex in space is hazardous to your mental health?

Pesky space radiation causing brain damage? Even the shuttle gets a heavy dose when it gets too close to the Van Allen Radiation Belt force field.

Quote:


Bart Sibrel:

In 1998, the Space Shuttle flew to one of its highest altitudes ever, three hundred fifty miles, hundreds of miles below merely the beginning of the Van Allen Radiation Belts. Inside of their shielding, superior to that which the Apollo astronauts possessed, the shuttle astronauts reported being able to "see" the radiation with their eyes closed penetrating their shielding as well as the retinas of their closed eyes. For a dental x-ray on Earth which lasts 1/100th of a second we wear a 1/4 inch lead vest. Imagine what it would be like to endure an hour and a half of radiation that you can see with your eyes closed from hundreds of miles away with 1/8 of an inch of aluminum shielding! After this new generation of NASA astronauts encountered this unpredicted surprise, CNN (another "uncredentialed" source) issued the following report:

Quote:


"The radiation belts surrounding Earth may be more dangerous for astronauts than previously believed The phenomenon known as the 'Van Allen Belts' can spawn 'Killer Electrons' that can dramatically affect the astronauts' health."
-CNN TV




Gamma rays on the Moon are higher than the surface of the Sun
This is radiation where the Apollo missions allegedly landed
Map by Lunar Prospector orbiter's Gamma Ray Spectrometer in 1997
www-spc.igpp.ucla.edu/dawn/newsletter/html/20030822/grnd.html
http://lunar.lanl.gov/pubs/1998/1484.html



Or a side effect of NASA's mind kontrol - "fly in this deadly rocket and perform geonicidal military missions, lie when we tell ya, or you're DEAD."

Quote:



Space Shuttle Challenger
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/28/newsid_250
6000/2506161.stm



Space Shuttle Columbia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster


Cathy O'Brien testified in court that her daughter Kelly (ie River Tam) was tortured at NASA facilities, so the Tennessee judge ordered Kelly lobotomized at Vandy Univeristy "Medical Center", "exorcised" of demons by Satanic foster cult members, and to participate in ritual murders.
www.trance-formation.com
www.piratenews.org/video-archive.html

NASA "genius" and college dropout Jack Parsons (JPL) was a Satanist who had sex with his mommy trying to resurrect the anti-Christ. Then he and his mommy murdered themselves in 2 "accidental" explosions.

Quote:


Sex and Rockets

When JPL co-founder and occultist Jack Parsons wasn't busy building rockets, he was chatting up the "whore of Babylon." It's been nearly three decades since Thomas Pynchon pondered the psychic connections between sex, rockets and the Kabala in his convoluted novel "Gravity's Rainbow." But even that was 30 years after Jack Parsons embraced that oddly compelling trinity -- as a self-taught chemist and co-founder of Pasadena's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), who devoted much of his life to magic and following the occult mage Aleister Crowley. Parsons is the captivating subject of a new biography called "Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons."

http://archive.salon.com/tech/books/2000/02/15/parsons/print.html

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THE MANIFESTO OF THE ANTICHRIST

by Jack Parsons

I, BELARION, ANTICHRIST, in the year 1949 of the rule of the Black Brotherhood called Christianity, do make my Manifesto to all men. And I, THE ANTICHRIST, come among you, saying:

An end to the pretense, and lying hypocrisy of Christianity.

An end to the servile virtues, and superstitious restrictions. An end to the slave morality.

An end to prudery and shame, to guilt and sin, for these are of the only evil under the Sun, that is fear.

An end to all authority that is not based on courage and manhood, to the authority of lying priests, conniving judges, blackmailing police, and

An end to the servile flattery and cajolery of mobs, the coronations of mediocrities, the ascension of dolts.

An end to restriction and inhibition, for I, THE ANTICHRIST, am come among you preaching the Word of the BEAST 666, which is, "There is no Law beyond Do What Thou Wilt."

www.aci.net/Kalliste/Jpar14.htm


Jack Parsons the treasonous Israeli pedophile with FBI report:
www.reflectionsinthenight.com/child_pornography.htm

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. This is the great dragon of chapter 12, Satan or Azazel. He has a number of names, but in each case, he is the king of all the demons, Lucifer, who became Satan."
-Revelation 9:11, Christian Bible (KJV with Forerunner Commentary)



Andrea Yates drowned her 5 kids in the bathtub, and her husband worked for NASA. She was "treated" by NASA headshrinkers. The court ordered her "not guilty by reason of insanity", contrary to the wishes of Uncle Scam's prosecutors. She'll probably never get escape from Uncle Scam's "re-education" facility.

Another Loony Bin resident, Buzz Aldrin was an alcoholic who cried in public lectures, and punched a journalist in the face who dared ask him to swear on a Bible that he really walked on THE Moon.

Quote:


Quote:


Your comment betrays a shocking lack of understanding for the complexity and rigor of space travel. I don't understand what she did, but NASA has the smartest people in the world, so I'm not going to question the way things are done or why and simply accept that they are furthering my understanding of the universe.

H



Serial killer Colonel Buzz Aldrin calmly discussing his historic "moon" walk
www.moonmovie.com
www.conspiracyworld.com/index0035.htm

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www.myspace.com/ufoetry
www.piratenews.org/hollywood.html



11 Apollo astronots died ON EARTH during the Apollo missions... The ones in space are usually psychotic and/or sociopathic serial killers, who murdered 100s of innocent people on Earth during The Perpetual War For Perpetual Peace.

No wonder she went nuts. Or perhaps she's a whistleblower, who got slipped a mickey? Her friend was murdered after speaking these banned words on TV:

Quote:


"The coolest thing for me is hanging by a window just after sunrise and watch the stars in the big black dome of the sky as the Earth moves underneath. My eyes are really glued to the outside. It is just absolutely amazing, magical, wonderful thing to do that."
-Dr Kawpana Chawla, who was slowly cooked in curry sauce on Columbia Space Shuttle

"You are in the blackest black you could ever imagine. I have reached the statute of limitations on a secret of the space program: How do you... go to the bathroom? Then you hear 'bloop, bloop, bloop, blooooop. I never did find out what that was. Where's my huggy pillow?"
-Captain Ron Evans, US Navy, Vietnam veteran bomber pilot, Apollo 17, died of "heart attack" on April 6, 1990 (aged 57), after giving public lectures about Apollo



Which would be better than what They did to Thomas Ronald Baron, killing him and his entire family in a "train crash", to stop publication of his 500-page addendum to his official Baron Report testimony re the murders of Apollo 1 astronots on the launching pad. Are NASA rocket scientists so stupid they park on railroad tracks in front of approaching trains?
http://history.nasa.gov/Apollo204/barron.html

I personally got tape-recorded death threats from govt employees, when publishing reports and testifying to Congress about military corruption and felonies perped by commanding officers during Gulf War #1.
www.piratenews.org/pentagon_whistleblower.html

So perhaps there's more to this tale than meets the retina?


Separated at Birth? Jew Lisa Marie vs Jew Lisa Marie


"Was it monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys got loose?"
-Capt Mal

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:13 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hi all,


Here's my take on this:

Astronauts are examined five ways from Sunday to be sure that they are medically and mentally fit. There have got to be very, very few careers that get you put under the microscope the way being an astronaut does.

That having been said, the human animal is an inherently flawed beast that does some really f'ed up stuff much of the time. There's no guarantees that a well-tested individual won't have a breakdown or flip out. There's no need for space-sickness or astro-radiation in this equation.

Human beings are INHERENTLY prone to failure.

I actually take comfort in the knowledge that the very finest examples of humanity aren't demonstrably better adjusted than the rest of us.

We all aren't that different, after all.

--Anthony

P.S. Hero, I got the joke the first time you said it.

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Tuesday, February 6, 2007 2:43 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


It's a joke. She's just another crazy bitch trapped in a Jewish love triangle. That's why she joined the military, to go kill innocent people. Probably voted for George Duhbya Bush.

A lack of brains and lack of sanity is a job requirement for the space races, which already murdered over 1,000 astronot draftees. Like copsters are required to score LOW on I.Q. tests as condition for employment, and "Intelligence" police are required to pass lie detector tests WHILE LYING.

The most likely causes for her insanity are a combination of "mandatory vaccinations", fluoridated water, and prescription psy meds, combined with mandatory govt training in how to murder human beings. Maybe she got bit by one of Pentagon's bioweaponized ecephalitis mosquito squdrons? Or is she a crack ho like JEB Bush's daughter, thanks to CIA narcoterrorists?


Mafia Hos Separated at Birth? Semitic Mexican Jew Noelle Bush and anti-Semitic Russian Jew Lisa Marie Nowak
www.allhatnocattle.net/8-9-03-bush-toon.htm

Instead of intelligent discussion of these issues, CNN disinfobabes just make childish jokes about "crazy NASA atronauts".


Another Bush begins a life of crime
www.commondreams.org/views02/1018-05.htm

Or maybe she got mind-kontrolled to distract the Media Mafia from discussing Jew Dick Cheney's trial this week for TREASON, starring Jewish homosexual animal-lover Lewis "Scooter" Libby...
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/307



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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 12:30 AM

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John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Deep analytical thoughts on Anapolis Naval Academy graduate, US Navy test pilot and NASA space shuttle robot operator run amok:
Quote:


"What makes somebody into a stalker?"
-Anderson "Takes It Up The Pooper" Cooper Vanderbilt, homosexual CIA mindkontroller, son of Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt, graduate of Communist Vietnam University in Hanoi

"I don't think she's a stalker. But driving across the country in diapers carrying weapons is really extreme! Hahahah!"
-Laura Berman, Jewish sex therapy prostitute


www.myspace.com/april1234


Brought to you by CNN, the most trusted name in news for hating Arab Semites, that stalks mommies until they suicide themselves. Too bad Melinda Duckett didn't get a restraining order against Nancy Grace.

Note that Capt Psycho's govt job requirement was wearing diapers and carrying Weapons of Mass Destruction, while speeding between 500mph and 17,000mph...



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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 4:30 AM

HERO


PN wears diapers so he doesn't have to stop with the crazy talk and use the restroom...

He lines his diapers with tin foil for obvious reasons.

H

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 5:23 AM

ROCKETJOCK


When I first heard of this story, I thought my reality check had bounced. "This," I thought, "is what going mad must feel like."

Then I read PN's posts, and realized exactly how well-grounded and stable I am.

Thanks, PN, for being such a shining and perfect bad example for the rest of us.

"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:00 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important



Piratenews Comment of the story: "She's just another crazy bitch trapped in a Jewish love triangle. That's why she joined the military, to go kill innocent people. Probably voted for George Duhbya Bush."

Piratenews criticism of Official News Coverage of the Story: "Instead of intelligent discussion of these issues, CNN disinfobabes just make childish jokes about "crazy NASA atronauts".


Piratenews IS Allergic to self-awareness.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:05 AM

KHYRON


You actually read what he writes? I just look at the pictures.



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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:49 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


The pictures?

What, like the "Mafia Ho's seperated at birth" who look nothing alike?

A thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters would do better, as would a thousand orangutans with a thousand random pictures and lots of paste.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 6:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

You actually read what he writes? I just look at the pictures.
hahahahaha!!!

When I read through the list of things she had with her, it all sounded like murder and cleanup (whack with the mallet, cut up with the knife and dispose in plastic bags, change coat) but for the life of me I couldn't figure out what the rubber tubing was for. I finally heard a credible explanation on the Stephanie Miller show: create tourniquets so that when you cut up the body the blood doesn't flow everywhere.

As crazy as this lady might be, she DOES know how to plan a mission!


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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 8:35 AM

FLETCH2


To paraphrase Jon Stewart

"Great on planning, implementation... errr... not so much."

And that of course is why she is facing attempted murder charges, kinda hard to argue that you just want to talk if you come equiped to butcher a body.


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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 9:30 AM

SHINYED


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Piratenews Comment of the story: "She's just another crazy bitch trapped in a Jewish love triangle. That's why she joined the military, to go kill innocent people. Probably voted for George Duhbya Bush."

Piratenews criticism of Official News Coverage of the Story: "Instead of intelligent discussion of these issues, CNN disinfobabes just make childish jokes about "crazy NASA atronauts".

Piratenews IS Allergic to self-awareness.




Yeah.....he's a real credit to Firefly & Browncoats... on his demented mission to spread hatred and bigotry and racism & stupidity throughout the 'verse.

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 9:52 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Lemme repeat the position you may have missed when it was discussed before, ShinyEd.

I *want* PN here, he's not half as crazy as he plays at being for show and shock value, and is he really that much more hateful and bigoted than certain more coherent posters ?

As long as I hafta hear hate and stupidity from one end of the political spectrum, I want the other end to have it's right to spout theirs too.

Ain't got mucha nothing to do with PN specifically, just that it's kinda asinine to call him on it, and not call certain others who do the same shit slightly more coherently - and in a different political direction.

If yer gonna call bullshit, call it equally.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 10:05 AM

SHINYED


He's a Jew-hating psychopath...don't defend it.

No place for that intolerance here.

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 10:16 AM

FREMDFIRMA


As opposed to Arab-hating psychopaths, of which we have a couple too ?

I ain't defendin nothin, just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of bashing PN while not bashing other intolerant folk.

But some intolerance is ok, cause it's politically correct right now ?

Again, bullshit.

The irony here is that either position can be labelled Anti-Semetic, cause Arabs are Semites too.

If yer gonna flame for it, flame em all, dammit.

-F

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 12:16 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
As opposed to Arab-hating psychopaths, of which we have a couple too ?

I ain't defendin nothin, just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of bashing PN while not bashing other intolerant folk.

But some intolerance is ok, cause it's politically correct right now ?

Again, bullshit.

The irony here is that either position can be labelled Anti-Semetic, cause Arabs are Semites too.

If yer gonna flame for it, flame em all, dammit.

-F



I cook idiocy wherever I see it.

Pirate News is frequent and obvious.

I once tried to get him to wipe the froth from his mouth and explain how he achieved his position slowly and logically.

He can't do it.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 12:17 PM

ANTHONYT

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Duplicate caused by Piratenews conspiracy.

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 3:36 PM

SAVEWASH

Now I am learning about scary.


What I don't understand is why so many people are saying it has something to do with NASA. I'm not saying that's impossible, but I am thinking that there have been plenty of murderers (okay, sorry, attempted murderers) who worked in all kinds of jobs for all kinds of corporations/agencies/etc., and we don't always blame the job/company/etc. for those people. Sometimes there's just something a little wrong with someone (forgive me the understatement) and we can't assign blame to anything other than that thing which is wrong, whether it's brain chemistry or whatever.

I'd be the first to say that NASA has made some colossal mistakes in its history, but I'm not ready to blame them for this one. People who do these type of stalker things are usually pretty good at hiding it, aren't they? How could anyone have known what she would do? I do agree that she faced job stress unlike anything I'll ever face in my cubicle, but so did many other people who didn't take this route. I just hope she'll get some help.

"We need to keep our heads so we can ... keep our heads."

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Wednesday, February 7, 2007 8:36 PM

FLETCH2


It's my belief that we haven't heard half the story yet. The CNN site was using pictures of her taken during her flight and she looked more like the publicity picture above than the mugshot. That flight was what, six months ago? In that time some bad stuff has happened for her to have become so gaunt. She has also seperated from her husband in that period.

So did she fall for the other astronaut and did that deep six her marriage? Or was her marriage in trouble and she fixate on the flyboy because he was kind to her?

Doesn't for one moment excuse her behavior but I've got to admit to being morbidly curious as to the cause.

As an aside, if you saw the HBO mini series "from the Earth to the Moon" there was an episode called "The original first wives club" about the wives of some of the Apollo era astronauts. They had a seriously stressfull life, doing publicity for the program, keeping the family together while hubby was putting in the hours nescessary to stay on the flight rota. Drink and mental problems were rife and after a married astronaut had an affair and was not cut from the program (showing that NASA would turn a blind eye to some infidelity) almost all of them ended up divorcing their husbands.

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 7:14 AM

SAHARA


I didn't think people were saying (well, most people) that it really had to do with NASA itself. I personally thought it was a kind of ironic because there's a general assumption that astronauts are rigorously tested and screened physically, intellectually and psychologically before getting into the program.
Hence my space psychosis comment being more of a commentary than an actual statement of belief or fact that space travel, NASA or science overall is actually to blame for that woman's actions. How a person can be so far beyond the edge of reason to not stop and think about how something like this will ultimately effect your children is something I can't understand.

Full disclosure: I did smile at a blogger's headline, "When Astronauts Attack".







Sahara
Blackbird fly into the light of the dark, black night.

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Thursday, February 8, 2007 7:16 AM

SAHARA


Stop PirateNews, you'll scare the women.



Sahara
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