Steal Our Album, Help Bury the Label

UPDATED: Thursday, October 11, 2007 06:36
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Tuesday, October 9, 2007 5:14 PM


Written by enigmax on October 09, 2007

Revolver Magazine called them part of “The Future of Metal” and they reportedly “destroyed” the second stage at Ozzfest. Now frontman of the band ‘Throwdown’ is calling on file-sharing fans to take action: “If you wanna really support a band, steal their album….help bury the label.”

For a record boss with piracy on his mind, it must be a nightmare. Rather than being able to bask in the glory of a record breaking punishment for a petty file-sharer for evermore, the very people the label claim to protect - the artists - turn round to the label and stick in the knife. Hard.

The frontman of hardcore band, Throwdown has done just that. According to, Dave Peters wrote a letter to Santa Monica-based industry watcher, Bob Lefsetz. Peters told him:

“I play in a metal band. We have sold around 200k records across 3 releases. We’re not ‘huge’ by any stretch but do alright and live off (and ON subsequently) the road. Fans and friends ask me all the time how I feel about “stealing music.” I just told someone yesterday “I have a hard time seeing it as stealing…when I don’t see any money from cd sales to begin with.”

Bob Lefsetz, ex-entertainment business attorney and author of the “The Lefsetz Letter” email newsletter, covers important issues right at the heart of the industry, including the declines of the record label and physical music formats such as the CD.

As the world increasingly ‘goes digital’, some people still insist on using terms that only describe the physical world accurately. One such word used to erroneously describe downloading is ‘theft’, but clearly no-one has had their property stolen and Peters agrees: “What are they actually TAKING from me?”

Indicating his displeasure with the industry he goes on:

“If you want to squeeze an opinion on theft out of me, ask me about the dude that grabbed our tshirt off the table tonight in Detroit or better yet.. ask me about record contracts.”

..and a message to the file-sharers out there:

“I encourage our fans to acquire our album however they please. The philosophy I’ve adopted is that if you’re supporting disc sales, you’re keeping the old model around longer…the one that forces dudes like me to tour 9 mos/year if they want to make ends meet with a career in music.”

Ending with a final insult for the record business, Peters hits a sweet note that will likely resonate with many as they reflect on the record labels future usefulness:

“If you wanna really support a band, “steal” their album….help bury the label….and buy a tshirt when you show up at their show and sing every word.”

Throwdown’s latest album, ‘Venom and Tears’ came out in July and is, of course, available via BitTorrent.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned."


Tuesday, October 9, 2007 6:47 PM


John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed wooHOO!!!!!!

Filesharing is just like listening to a song on the radio, except it bypasses the media monopoly censors that own all radio stations, that only play bands that sign a contract with them, ie, MTV.

File sharing or myspace stream/download are the only ways most bands have to recruit customers besides face to face. File "sharing" is no different from people loaning records or CDs to each other.

Same with Firefly. Fox banned it from TV, but filesharing keeps it alive in cyberspace.

Entertainment lawyers just want to justify their theft of bands' paychecks.

"Two words I never want to hear again in a sentence are Flash and Drive!"
-Nathan Fillion, Drive


Does that seem right to you?


Tuesday, October 9, 2007 7:11 PM



Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
...“If you wanna really support a band, steal their album….help bury the label.”

Ahhh, the nobility of rebellion, and the notoriety! I wouldn't be too surprised if his album sales picked up a bit in the fourth quarter, eh?


"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock


Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:28 PM


Radiohead lets buyers name their price
Thom Yorke, singer of the band Radiohead.

CD music sales continue to decline. But the popular alternative British group Radiohead is trying something new. They're making a key change in their sales strategy. Lisa Napoli reports.

Basically, they let you down load it, and then pay 'whatever you feel like', even $0.00.

Is it stealing if they will let you take if for free?


Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:36 AM


Throwdown and Radiohead sound like my kind of guys.

I do download a lot of music, so I tend to watch the whole file-sharing debate very carefully. But I also like to buy albums. Unfortunately, the prices of CD's are so exorbiant these days that I rarely have the money for it. Peer-to-peer networks are usually the only way for me to have access to musicians I like on a continual basis. Maybe if the RIAA would attempt to find a middle ground instead of the strong-arm tactics they're currently employing, the record companies wouldn't be in the mess they're in now.


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