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Monday, November 5, 2007 4:21 PM

SERGEANTX


The fifth of November.

I don't suppose all of you will consider this good news, but Ron Paul raised a record 3.5 million dollars today. In one day. And there are still over two hours left. It looks to top 4 million before all is said and done.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Monday, November 5, 2007 5:59 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


$4.5-million so far. His average day is $500,000.
www.ronpaulgraphs.com

Quote:

Ron Paul’s record beat John Kerry’s record that came two days after the Super Tuesday primaries in 2004. This makes Paul’s online fundraising effort largest single day online fund raising effort in history by a presidential candidate.

www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=151377



If you hate traffic tickets and income taxes, here's how to terminate them:

www.thisnovember5th.com
www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/
www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_on_course_raise_millions_in_one_
day.htm




As for Remember Remember the 5th of November, from the fictional movie V for Vendetta, the real Catholic Gunpowder Plot to bomb British Parliament 400 years ago was a terrorist plot perped by the ancestor of George Bush Jr. Crooked cop Constable Thomas Percy was gunned down and summarily executed for resisting arrest. The other conspirators were tortured, castrated in public, drawn and quartered, then beheaded. Bush's mommy Barbara Pierce's family changed their name from Percy.


Bush family's head on a stick in British Parliament in 2007
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/174

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 2:39 AM

JONGSSTRAW


It's amazing to me how many naive people are willing to throw away their hard-earned money to give to these smarmy, ego-centric political candidates. Then add in all the Democrat supporters who JUST CAN'T WAIT to have their peeps RAISE ALL OUR TAXES so we all TAKE HOME LESS MONEY every week. Gee...what a self-defeating enterprise. Wise up people. You ain't gonna have nothing left in your paychecks without a Republican President there to veto the out-of-control Rangle-led Ways & Means TAX INCREASES they're just drooling about. Ya know...lotsa criminal illegal aliens NEED YOUR MONEY so the Dems plan is to take it from YOU and give it to them. How nice!

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:43 AM

EARLY


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's amazing to me how many naive people are willing to throw away their hard-earned money to give to these smarmy, ego-centric political candidates.



I hope you aren't including Ron Paul in that description.

www.RonPaul2008.com

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 4:13 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Umm, you DO realize someone has to pay for all this insanity, right ?

By not raising taxes, politicians of today are simply eyeballing your children (who might I note, cannot vote yet) with the intent of dumping this massive crushing debt on THEM.

You wanna talk about taxation without representation, there it is in spades - they did not ask for it, could not vote against it, and paying that monster debt down will financially cripple and destroy many of em.

And you wonder why they hate us....

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 4:20 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
It looks to top 4 million before all is said and done.


Mr. Paul has been 'all said and done' since the day before he announced his candidacy.

I already noted that he is running an independent campaign, probably as a libertarian again. Its not uncommon for them to amass several million dollars for their campaigns. Thats all this is...Libertarian Party using the primary process to showcase their candidate and agenda...very clever, but he's always going to be a marginal candidate at best.

H

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 4:34 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Early:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It's amazing to me how many naive people are willing to throw away their hard-earned money to give to these smarmy, ego-centric political candidates.

I hope you aren't including Ron Paul in that description.


No, but giving your money to him seems as worthy as flushing it down the toilet. Why give any of your money to these rich bastards? You think your $ 100 bucks stands a chance of matter and/or influence next to the George Soros' of the world's millions? Pshaw! Better to use your money to buy Firefly stuff.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 4:42 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Better to use you money to buy Firefly stuff.


Might I suggest the United Way...we just did a City Building fund raiser for them and raised $20,000.

And the United Way has a much greater chance of being elected President then Ron Paul.

H

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 5:07 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Looks like killing the IRS is quite popular.

Ron Paul Girl takes it off for November 5th:



United Way is a RepubliCon front, with massive overhead for their lifestyles of the rich and infamous, with very little money going to those who need it. Don't waste your money on United Way Corporation, give it to Ron Paul, so he can pay bribes to the media mafia extortion rackets to deprogram the sheeple, which is actually cheap for candidates.

Quote:

In the wake of a controversial $1.5 million pension payout to a former chief executive, the United Way of America is changing its rules to prevent such payments from happening again. The CEO, Betty Stanley Beene, had served in the post from late 1997 to 2001. The $1.5 million payment was disclosed in recent United Way tax filings, according to the Washington Post.
http://compensation.blr.com/display.cfm/id/150237

More than a decade ago, the $463,000 annual compensation of the president of the United Way of America sparked unprecedented scrutiny of charities throughout the nation. But as corporate scandals involving Enron and WorldCom grabbed headlines, salaries at nonprofits faded from the spotlight. Now, once again, nonprofit organizations are attracting scrutiny. Just last year, the IRS launched an investigation into tax exempt organizations to put an end to excessive compensation and benefits.
www.sptimes.com/2005/08/15/Business/He_s_the_highest_paid.shtml

Mr. Grassley, a federal grand jury, and the U.S. Department of Labor are all investigating the United Way of the National Capital Area, in Washington, which has been gripped by a controversy for the past year that began with charges that its former chief executive was paid an overly generous consulting contract after he left that job. Oral Suer was paid $72,000 over 12 months after retiring as chief executive, and gained another $200,000 when he was allowed to take his pension two years before he retired, The Washington Post has reported.
www.philanthropy.com/free/articles/v14/i24/24003301.htm

Information concerning a major accounting and fiscal scandal at the United Way of the National Capital Area continues to trickle out. An ongoing criminal investigation is being conducted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Alexandria, Virginia. Several investigative elements of the federal government have been involved at varying stages of this ongoing investigation, including the U.S. Department of Labor auditors, the FBI, and auditors from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management. The United Way is a network of over 2,000 local organizations that raises over $3 billion a year for charity. United Way Board of Governors set up an independent investigation of the allegations against the chief executive officer, William Aramony. After a two year investigation, Mr. Aramony was indicted by a federal grand jury of conspiring to defraud the United Way, filing false tax returns and falsifying records to hide the diversion of money, [and] following a lengthy and well-publicized trial, Mr. Aramony was found guilty of 25 felony charges and was sentenced to seven years in prison. The Washington Post in an August 17th article entitled "Dealings of Charity Executive Concealed," by staff writers Peter Whoriskey and Jacqueline L. Salmon, points out that, "The financial dealings of Oral Suer, the former United Way chief accused in an audit last week of taking more than $1.5 million in questionable payments from the local charity, were first flagged by auditors more than 15 years ago but remained a closely held secret among a handful of prominent board members even as the losses mounted over time, audits and interviews show."
www.etherzone.com/2003/lang082903.shtml


Panhandling by career criminals is very profitable for charity corporations.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 5:34 AM

SERGEANTX


The total topped $4.2 million. That's in one 24 hour period. And they aren't pledges, but actual transactions. It's a great day to be a Ron Paul supporter. :)

Thanks to Hero and Jongstraw for your heartfelt congratulations. We in the RP camp look forward to more of that kind of solid support from the party faithful.

The funny thing is, everyone (the press, and the other candidates) is trying to figure out how he's doing it. What's his secret? The articles insinuate that he's hired some web-manipulating guru who's orchestrating all of this. They can't really seem to get it through their heads that this is the real deal - a genuine grassroots campaign pushed by people who really care, people waking up from their apathy with a desire to make things better. It'll be funny watching the other Republicans trying to emulate RP's online "tactics", not realizing that it's about the message, not some clever strategy.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 5:43 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
It's a great day to be a Ron Paul supporter.


Enjoy your day in the sun....in just a mere couple of months it'll all be over for him. Then we'll see who he throws his big support ( all 1 delegate ) to.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:23 AM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
...in just a mere couple of months it'll all be over for him.



Probably. Maybe sooner than that.

S'Okay, I'm used to the bad guys winning. But the good fight is still worth fighting.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:56 AM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
But the good fight is still worth fighting.

Amen.

Firefly fans, of all people, should understand that.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky
Mal: May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 7:17 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
...in just a mere couple of months it'll all be over for him.



Probably. Maybe sooner than that.

S'Okay, I'm used to the bad guys winning. But the good fight is still worth fighting.

SergeantX


Look, you have every right to select your horse and root for him (or her). I personally think the whole Primary concept is flawed, and a lousy way to choose party candidates. It is sooooo heavily geared for the "moneyed" front-runner that an "independently" willed candidate just doesn't have any chance. The "big boys" always prevail. Hell...back in 1999 or so who the heck heard of or wanted Bush? Answer : NO ONE....But we got him....why? The Big-monied Republican machine chose him to run against Gore. I heard him a few times in Iowa and knew from that second that he was retarded, and had built his political career on his daddy's name & accomplishments. Quite frankly, his ultimate nomination at the Convention was a real embarrassment for me and many others. But...what did the Dems offer?....Gore was a leftover legacy of bad-boy Bill, and the guy was a super stiff on TV. Fast forward...8 years...look at the field of candidates from both sides....the "front-runners" of both parties are almost exactly the same...not really much choice there. I'd almost like to see a dark horse somehow manipulate his way through the primaries and somehow collect enough delegates to be a viable candidate. Ron Paul could be that guy, but beyond his "internet-base" of loyalists, he has no other meaningful support, and therefore is doomed to drop out very soon.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 12:55 PM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Firefly fans, of all people, should understand that.



Ayup. Every time I hear Ron Paul dicuss his foreign policy I think of young River's quote in Serenity:

"We meddle... People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads, and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome."

At least we're getting some good press for a change. The media loves the smell of money. This one's quite good:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=3826332&page=1

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 12:55 PM

SERGEANTX


I just watch the first fifteen minutes of ABC Evening news. The entire first segment was on the presidential race. They were talking about how the Republicans were in trouble in key states due to voter dissatisfaction. They specifically cited Nevada, where Ron Paul won a straw poll just a few weeks ago.

All through the segment not one mention of Ron Paul's record breaking fund raising. The most painful part - they interviewed a disgruntled Republican voter who said "I just wish there was a Republican who will tell me that they're going to end this war. The silence was deafening. And sickening. And, as much as I encourage people not to talk in terms of conspiracy, there's no way this wasn't a deliberate omission.

From that they went into a segment discussing how Pakistan has closed down all the independent media... irony much?

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 2:03 PM

GORRAMGROUPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Umm, you DO realize someone has to pay for all this insanity, right ?

By not raising taxes, politicians of today are simply eyeballing your children (who might I note, cannot vote yet) with the intent of dumping this massive crushing debt on THEM.

You wanna talk about taxation without representation, there it is in spades - they did not ask for it, could not vote against it, and paying that monster debt down will financially cripple and destroy many of em.

And you wonder why they hate us....

-Frem




Having grown up with stagflation, and economists predicting that I would be paying for it, and my descendants, for over 100 years, yet during the 90's most of it disappeared, I would be leary of believing that.

The whole point of the presidency is to draw attention from the real power - congress. They are the onese who make the laws, who vote the laws in, and who decide what is what. The president suggests, but can't even submit his own bill. I don't care for any of the candidates - self absorbed power seekers- because in the long run it doesn't matter. When we can get a person who actually BELIEVES in helping the nation not himself, then we will finally have a candidate worth looking at.


"It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 9:05 PM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
I don't care for any of the candidates - self absorbed power seekers- because in the long run it doesn't matter. When we can get a person who actually BELIEVES in helping the nation not himself, then we will finally have a candidate worth looking at.



Have you looked at RP at all? I can imagine all kinds of ways you might criticize him, but "self-absorbed power seeker" he aint.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 9:09 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Allow me to point out that up till recently, we were STILL paying for the fuckin spanish-american war via a "temporary" tax on phone lines.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060526-6928.html

How many generations got boned by that one, including mine ?

Shit, contrary to the snarkily expressed opinions of my friends, I wasn't even ALIVE back in 1898, much less in any position to vote against it.

How many folks too young to vote at the time, are now stuck with some degree of the tax bill for the savings and loan bailout of 1985 ?

Or paying into the social security slush fund, which I damnwell guarantee you THEY will never see a dime of when they're old enough to call in the marker...

Meanwhile this generation lives on the rabid consumerism and deficit-spending, deferring the financial bite onto folks too young to stand up and be counted.

I found it offensive when I entered the workforce when the sheer size of the tax bite from the previous two generations started to hit me, and I am STILL taking home less than 65% of my income, not including sales tax, property tax, utility taxes, taxes taxes and more gorram taxes all to pay for shit done long before I had any say in it.

Be damned if I wanna do that to my nieces, and pardon my lack of respect for the elderly, but when I look at the folk who are responsible, directly or indirectly, I wanna get em by the goddamn throat and SQUEEZE the fucking money, if not the very life, out of them.

You think I was kidding that "They hate us" - I myself have felt that hate, and when these teens start to realize just how badly we're fucking them over, the mess we're gonna hand to THEM to deal with when most of us are retired or taking the dirt nap, you better believe they're not much gonna thank us for it.

And a direct quote from my niece to all of us, relative -
"Spend your own damned money, instead of mine before I even have it!"

That thrown at me the day her civic class discovered what the Federal Deficit was.

-Frem


It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 10:43 PM

FLETCH2


Really? Smashing year, September was a bit warm though. You'd have liked it, especially in your line of work. Cabbies in London would charge 1s 6d for a fair from Euston to Marble Arch and 2s for a trip from Reagents Park to Victoria. That was a pretty good fair. There were upwards of 11,000 cabs with 20,000 horses -- that's enough sh*t to keep even PN happy!

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 12:59 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!





Remember, instead, the 10th of November.

"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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