Global Warming - Greatest scam in history ! by AURaptor

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Global Warming - Greatest scam in history !

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UPDATED: Sunday, November 11, 2007 15:33
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Sunday, November 11, 2007 4:52 AM

Don't know if I'm reiterating here, as I'm too lazy to read the thread, but didn't ANYONE think that it may be just a natural thing? Seein' as we just got out of the Lil' Ice Age, maybe this is just the opposite of it, like the Lil' Apocalypse of Damnation and Hellfire?

-Danny

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 5:15 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

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Originally posted by SignyM: The "inconvenient truth" that you fail to mention.... the part right before the sentence that you quote, is... The court ruled that the film was substantially founded upon scientific research and fact. There were nine points in dispute in the film, of those, three are definitely wrong and the remainder are more correct than not according to the scientific consensus.

You may be right if my original point was that the movie was not based on scientific fact. Righteous and I are clearly discussing the partisan nature of the film, not the science.

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Originally posted by SignyM: The film is clearly a call for action. Does that make it "political"? I guess it is if you assume ANY call for action is political. In that view, Silent Spring by Rachel Carson would also be deemed "political", as would Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman. What I don't understand is the idea that this movie is somehow "partisan" i.e. supporting one political party over another. It's been a while since I saw the film; I wasn't particularly impressed with it but I didn't get the feeling that it was a Republican v Democrat film.

That is your opinion. Obviously myself and at least a couple of Brit's think otherwise. I have the same misgivings regarding Canada's leading man-made global warming champion David Suzuki. Why he feels it necessary to muddy the waters with his politics instead of the straight facts escapes me. It needlessly puts roughly half of his target audience on the defensive for no good reason IMHO.

p.s. Signy, you stink.:wink:

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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You may be right if my original point was that the movie was not based on scientific fact. Righteous and I are clearly discussing the partisan nature of the film, not the science.

Where is the "partisan" part of the film? (Partisan politics means supporting one party over another.) As I said, it's been a while since I saw the film, but I don't recall Gore touting Democrats over Republicans. So if you would care to be specific about the partisan nature of the film- especially by providing examples- that would be helpful.

AFA the film being "political": IMHO where a movie (book, etc) is scientific or factual it is NOT political. If it is mostly scientific, it is mostly not political; science trumps politics in my view. For example: The earth is round is not a political statement, and if a politician or party chooses to run on a flat-earth platform that STILL doesn't make the earth is round "political". If the facts are that the earth is warming, AND the CO2 is a greenhouse gas, AND that the concentration of atmosphereic CO2 has been rising - all of which are proveably true - then what part is "political"? Again, if you could provide some examples of what you think is overtly partisan or political that would be helpful.

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:04 AM

CHRISISALL

Down the centuries you have slurred the meaning of the words, WE THE PEOPLE...

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Originally posted by SignyM: For example: The earth is round

So...this is a lefty belief is it? Hmmmm, AU will have to join the flat-Earth side, I guess.:evil:

Terminally silly Chrisisall

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Well, you know us lefty-types: Always on the lunatic fringe :wink:

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:40 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by SignyM: So if you would care to be specific about the partisan nature of the film- especially by providing examples- that would be helpful.

Because anything that doesn't automatically give corporations blanket permission to do anything they damned well please is Liberal propaganda.

Duh.

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:00 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Where my objections to the film lay were the few times I got that game-show buzzer in my head when Gore said something that I knew wasn't true- for example, the Kilomanjaro snow isn't melting because of global warming. Also IMHO there was too much about "the lonely man in an uncaring world", trudging sadly but gamely through airports and backstages to bring the message to the people. Was that a play for sympathy? Probably. Was that "partisan"? Didn't seem to to me. Was that "political"? I guess, in so far as it tried to sway people to take action by appealing to their emotions. But by that definition even advertising is political.

Nonetheless, I thought the movie on the whole presented the science as is currently understood.

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:40 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Terminally silly Chrisisall

About all we agree on. That, and Jessica Alba.

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:26 AM

LEADB

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Originally posted by Alliethorn7: Don't know if I'm reiterating here, as I'm too lazy to read the thread, but didn't ANYONE think that it may be just a natural thing? Seein' as we just got out of the Lil' Ice Age, maybe this is just the opposite of it, like the Lil' Apocalypse of Damnation and Hellfire?

-Danny

Yes; but the 'Apocalypse of Damnation and Hellfire' reference is... unique.

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:33 PM

JARHEAD

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Originally posted by AnthonyT: I will say now what I have said before.... There are plenty of good, selfish reasons to change the behavior of mankind that have nothing to do with Global Warming.... It might also help the planet, or it might not. Who cares? It helps me!

So shove Global Warming up your rectum and give me a car that delivers a mile per penny. That would be progress.

Quoted for truth.

I drive a F350 Turbo-Diesel Super-Duty everyday at work. Right now mixing up my own almost-biodiesel would really save on the fuel bill, wish I could convince the boss. Those of you in countries where you can actually buy diesel cars should really take advantage cause near as I can tell they aren't allowed to import them in the States. Fraken politicians. I think when #2 diesel goes over $4.00 a gallon here(like next month or so)I might be able to make some headway.

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