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Liberally biased media (CNN ) plants Democrats in GOP YouTube debates

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:31 AM

AURAPTOR

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Digging out more CNN/YouTube plants: Abortion questioner is declared Edwards supporter (and a slobbering Anderson Cooper fan); Log Cabin Republican questioner is declared Obama supporter; lead toy questioner is a prominent union activist for the Edwards-endorsing United Steelworkers
By Michelle Malkin • November 29, 2007 12:47 AM Update: The foliage keeps blooming…a questioner working with Dick Durbin’s staff and a Richardson supporter masquerading as a Paulbot… and a former Jane Harman intern…and the “Blind Black Republican satirist” (a milder species, but still, all in the same family).

Update: Watch video of the disappearing plants. CNN cuts out Keith Kerr from the debate rebroadcast. Keep pulling those weeds…

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Welcome to Horticulture Journalism 101. (Keep scrolling down for new updates to this handy CNN/YouTube illustrated plant guide.)


Concerned Young Undecided Person “Journey” = John Edwards supporter “Journey”

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Concerned Undecided Log Cabin Republican supporter David Cercone = Obama supporter David Cercone

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Concerned Undecided Mom LeeAnn Anderson = Activist for the John Edwards-endorsing United Steelworkers union LeeAnn Anderson

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Concerned Undecided Gay Military Retiree Brig. Gen. Keith H. Kerr = Hillary/Kerry supporter and anti-”Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” activist Keith H. Kerr

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The best thing about Republicans agreeing to do the CNN/YouTube debate is that it created yet another invaluable opportunity to expose CNN’s abject incompetence.

Retired Brig. Gen./gays in the military lobbyist/Hillary-Kerry supporter Keith H. Kerr wasn’t the only plant at the CNN/YouTube debate. The plant uncovering is in full-swing over at Free Republic.

Example: “Journey,” a.k.a. “Paperserenade,” the girl who asked an abortion question, is a declared John Edwards supporter.

You couldn’t tell from the video that CNN aired, where she’s wearing a plain shirt:




But if you click through on her YouTube profile, you see her latest video in response to the candidates’ answers. And she’s prominently wearing…her John Edwards ‘08 t-shirt:



In case CNN’s eyesight is impaired:




How, you ask, should CNN have known? Well, on her YouTube profile, this woman links to her personal blog, where her user profile makes her political leanings crystal clear:



Turns out “Journey/” “paperserenade” is also a big slobbering Anderson Cooper fan. She posted this video a month ago exulting that “Anderson Cooper said my name!” during a CNN viewer comment segment. She wrote, “Horrible video, but at least I’ve got some type of recording of this event that has made my week!:”



On her blog, she posted an Anderson Cooper segment from VH1 with the following comment: “Anderson officially had the Best Week Ever for the week of 10/26/07, and looked more delicious than a pic-i-nic basket while doing so. And lookie, I found the video and uploaded it to Youtube for y’all. :D”

“Delicious!”

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Update: And another one…Brian McMurphy at SixMeatBuffet (hat tip See-Dubya) notes that David Cercone, the Pompano Beach, Florida, man who asked the question about Log Cabin Republicans, is a declared Obama supporter.



His video:



Hillary must have shared a bag of her fertilizer with CNN. And yeah, it stinks:



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Update: And another one…via The Autopsy…The lead toy questioner, LeeAnn Anderson, who appears to be an ordinary mom concerned about her two children, whom she includes in her video, is a prominent Pittsburgh union activist–and aide to Leo Gerard, President of the American Steel Workers Union/John Edwards supporter.

Her video:



If you go to the United Steelworkers YouTube page, you’ll see that Ms. Anderson’s video question is the featured video…along with a John Edwards ‘08 icon (click for full-size):





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“Constructive incompetence” or “convenient ineptitude?”

You decide.

These were suppose to be non committed GOP voters

PLEASE



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Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:41 AM

RUE

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Are you saying that only people who have NO party affiliation at all and who have NO current favorite are allowed to participate ?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:49 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Are you saying that only people who have NO party affiliation at all and who have NO current favorite are allowed to participate ?

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'Cause that would be silly.

Only people voting for Republicans can participate:
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Orignally posted by AURaptor:
These were suppose to be non committed GOP voters

That, it would seem, is what some expect of balanced media. Balanced so that only their side is allowed to speak?



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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:20 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Are you saying that only people who have NO party affiliation at all and who have NO current favorite are allowed to participate ?

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Both parties had their own YouTube debates. The questions were suppose to be from " undecided registered voters likely to vote GOP ". And yet, we have some half a dozen supporters for Demcorats asking very slanted questions, while no such quid pro quo was in place when the Dems had THEIR YouTube debate. But it was under false pretenses that these folks had their questions chosen, BY CNN, and they even flew one guy in who was on a Hillary Clinton steering committee!! No such treatment was given to anyone of similar position for the Dem debates. Gee, I wonder why.

Yes, citizen, only Republicans were suppose to ask questions in the REPUBLICAN debate, where as the same was the case for Democrats in the DEMOCRATIC debate. However, if a person was an TRUE independant, then they should have been presented as such, but not pretend to be an undecided GOP voter who obviously is wearing a John Edwards 08 shirt and is working for his campaign. Please.

Too much for you to handle ?


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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:43 PM

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I actually have some sympathy for AU's opinion in this case because he's viewing this from the perspective of the party primaries. Primaries are in effect little elections where only party members count. Viewed in that context none party members have no real say and their opinion is not being saught. Yes it's stupid, because one of the guy's (or gals) these parties select will be president at some point, so everyone has an interest in finding out more about them. However viewed narrowly this really should be a Rep on Rep bloodletting wityh open season reserved for the general election.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:51 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Too much for you to handle ?

It would have worked better without the insult, but that's true of just about all your posts.



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Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:57 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
I actually have some sympathy for AU's opinion in this case because he's viewing this from the perspective of the party primaries. Primaries are in effect little elections where only party members count. Viewed in that context none party members have no real say and their opinion is not being saught. Yes it's stupid, because one of the guy's (or gals) these parties select will be president at some point, so everyone has an interest in finding out more about them. However viewed narrowly this really should be a Rep on Rep bloodletting wityh open season reserved for the general election.



I may have mispoke, but I think that questions are solicited from affirmed independants from each party which would make logical sense as both parties have their own YT debate. Whether a voter generally votes R or D, isn't so much the issue as here we have a blatent case of CNN allowing voters who clearly have already decided on their candidates, all of them being Democrats, asking Republicans biased / slanted questions. The whole POINT of this was to engage the UNDECIDED voter, where as the ones pointed out above clearly are there w/ an agenda, and fully do NOT intened to vote for any Republican. THAT's where the issue lies, and where CNN is wiping the collective egg from its face.

"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:08 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by citizen: Balanced so that only their side is allowed to speak?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Too much for you to handle ?

It would have worked better without the insult, but that's true of just about all your posts.




It's a GOP debate, citizen. Just as I explained, the Dems had their OWN debate. It's not even remotely an issue of anyone being 'allowed' to speak, but the intent was for those who HONESTLY were undecided to get to speak. But since you put it in such a acrimonious manner - yes ! Balanced so only their side is allowed to speak. Or, at the very least, only those who are undecided are allowed to speak, while those working for the opposition's campaigns should have been vetted and left to watch at home.

Is THAT too much for you to handle?

"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:17 PM

STORYMARK


Hell, someone has to ask the Republicans some actual questions, instead of the soft-balling questions the media, and the loyalty-contract-signing Rep voters do.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:59 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Hell, someone has to ask the Republicans some actual questions, instead of the soft-balling questions the media, and the loyalty-contract-signing Rep voters do.




You're confusing the GOP w/ the Democrats. Hell, Wolf Blitzer about found himself in a pair of cement boots for simply asking Hillary 1 decent, honest question about immigration. You'd have thought, from how the media recoiled, that Wolf had asked about her and Bill's sex life.



"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:06 PM

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"The period for submitting questions via YouTube video ended yesterday, and almost 5,000 were offered up as fodder for the debate. The videos are as diverse as the questioners themselves, coming from all ages and backgrounds, and from Republicans and Democrats alike."

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Hell, someone has to ask the Republicans some actual questions, instead of the soft-balling questions the media, and the loyalty-contract-signing Rep voters do.




They can ask all the tough questions they want once the general election begins. Its not appropriate to allow democrats to ask the questions when the Republicans are trying to pick their candidate. If Independent voters want a say in what candidate the parties pic they are free to register as a democrat or Republican and vote in the primary. They can even put forward a candidate to try and take over the party like Ron Paul is doing to the republicans.




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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:12 PM

RUE

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"Its not appropriate to allow democrats to ask the questions when the Republicans are trying to pick their candidate."

Apparently there was nothing wrong with getting questions from all people, according to the rules of the debate I found. Perhaps someone can dig up a more complete set from elsewhere that says different.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:17 PM

SIGNYM

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Don't recall exactly, but in the previous Dem debate wasn't the audience salted with "undecided" Hillary fans? I thought it was CNN that had let that thru also.

I personally don't care about the questioners background. I think everybody should be able to sak a question about anybody. Doing THAT will stir up more information on all the candidates, and allow each party member a more-informed primary vote. But isn't it a little misleading when a person is presented as one thing but is actually another? Maybe they should just drop any attempted description of questioner and just, yanno, discuss the issues.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:19 PM

KIRKULES


It's not about the rules it's about appropriate behavior by the media. When you have a Republican debate it is assumed that it is for the benefit of Republican voters. After the primaries anything goes.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:22 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

It's not about the rules it's about appropriate behavior by the media. When you have a Republican debate it is assumed that it is for the benefit of Republican voters. After the primaries anything goes.
That doesn't make sense on the face of it. Just because a Dem asks a Repub a question does not make the answer useless for Repubs. In fact, I would prefer to see Dems grilled by Repubs and vice versa- I think we'd ALL get better questions... and more useful information... that way.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:25 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Don't recall exactly, but in the previous Dem debate wasn't the audience salted with "undecided" Hillary fans? I thought it was CNN that had let that thru also.

I personally don't care about the questioners background. I think everybody should be able to sak a question about anybody. Doing THAT will stir up more information on all the candidates, and allow each party member a more-informed primary vote. But isn't it a little misleading when a person is presented as one thing but is actually another? Maybe they should just drop any attempted description of questioner and just, yanno, discuss the issues.



Last I checked, Hillary is a Democrat. It's one thing to 'let through' members of the same party acting as undecided, and quite another letting folks from another party under the guise of being undecided, when in fact they clearly are working for a Dem candidate. But that is the point of these YT debates. One for the undecided types leaning toward the Dems, the other undecided types leaning toward the GOP. This is why they call them primaries, after all, and not general elections.

"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:29 PM

RUE

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I would be less concerned about who participates and more concerned about who picks the questions.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:31 PM

RUE

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For the record I would be happy to have republicans, independents, green party-ers and whomever grill all the democratic candidates.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
I would be less concerned about who participates and more concerned about who picks the questions.

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On that, I think we agree.

"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:50 PM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
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It's not about the rules it's about appropriate behavior by the media. When you have a Republican debate it is assumed that it is for the benefit of Republican voters. After the primaries anything goes.
That doesn't make sense on the face of it. Just because a Dem asks a Repub a question does not make the answer useless for Repubs. In fact, I would prefer to see Dems grilled by Repubs and vice versa- I think we'd ALL get better questions... and more useful information... that way.

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If the questions are submitted by by people who designed their question to harm Republicans then culled by the media to find the best out of the lot to embarrass Republicans the only ones that benefit are the democrats.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:53 PM

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Hello,

I am pleased to have the candidates I am considering answer any question from any source, just so long as that source is not themselves.

That means if a Democrat member of the Ron Paul Haters club has a valid question for Ron Paul, I advocate them asking it. My candidate should be able to express himself in response to any valid question. I am sure that the Democrats would be more than happy to allow Republican members of the I Hate Hilary club to ask questions at their debates.

And if not, why not? I don't think these candidates should allow themselves to be perceived as having anything to hide.

--Anthony

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:01 PM

RUE

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"If the questions are submitted by by people who designed their question to harm Republicans then culled by the media to find the best out of the lot to embarrass Republicans the only ones that benefit are the democrats."

And republicans shouldn't find out about embarrassing issues ? Why not ?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:22 PM

KIRKULES


Believe me, any embarrassing issues will come out in the General election. Also, any Republican candidate or their minions would be just as happy as a democrat to use some embarrassing dirt to bump off one the the other Republicans candidates.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:26 PM

RUE

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"Believe me, any embarrassing issues will come out in the General election."

It seems to me that if you want a bullet proof candidate in the general election you'd want to wash out the others before-hand.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:47 PM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"Believe me, any embarrassing issues will come out in the General election."

It seems to me that if you want a bullet proof candidate in the general election you'd want to wash out the others before-hand.

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Thats why my second sentence mentioned Republicans bumping off Republicans. I don't think questions from democrats are intended to help Republicans pick a "bullet proof candidate".

"Rock Chalk, Jayhawk, KU"

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:53 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Yep, one should be able to grill any candidate regardless of the questioners or candidates leanings or affiliation.

Don't be dumber than you can help Rap - you ever think that if perhaps one of them Rethugs does a good job of answering a Dimocrat voters question while their own Dimocrat totally fumbles it that they won't ponder that thought a while.

I really wish you'd lay off the propaganda push, it's not that it's offensive, per-se, it's that you're so very, very, BAD at it...

But then maybe you're secretly a member of Billary's team trying to make the Rethugs look like a bunch of complete and total berks... ?

Hmm... nah, you just ain't slick enough for that.
*SNARK*

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Hell, someone has to ask the Republicans some actual questions, instead of the soft-balling questions the media, and the loyalty-contract-signing Rep voters do.




You're confusing the GOP w/ the Democrats. Hell, Wolf Blitzer about found himself in a pair of cement boots for simply asking Hillary 1 decent, honest question about immigration. You'd have thought, from how the media recoiled, that Wolf had asked about her and Bill's sex life.





Cement boots? Christ, you are such a tool.

And I'm not saying that the Dem's aren't getting softball questions as well. I would have had no problem if Republicans had asked some real, tough questions of the Dem candidates, instead of the crap questions CNN fed people.

But if you think either side is getting asked tough questions, you truely are retarded.

I mean, I know you're desperate for anything to make the dead horse you're backing look less like the steaming carcass that it is. But damn, man, at least try to address reality.



(Look, I can post little smileys, too - and they're just as vapid and meaningless as when you do. A smiley does not a point make.)

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:15 PM

RUE

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"Thats why my second sentence mentioned Republicans bumping off Republicans. I don't think questions from democrats are intended to help Republicans pick a "bullet proof candidate"."

That might not be the intention, but it is the effect.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:16 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules:
Thats why my second sentence mentioned Republicans bumping off Republicans. I don't think questions from democrats are intended to help Republicans pick a "bullet proof candidate".




But if a candidate can't handle a question from the opposition, how bulletproof could they be?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:38 PM

KIRKULES


Democrat questions Republican, "Is it true that all Republicans hate puppies and are direct descendants of Adolf Hitler". Republican questions democrat, "Is it true that all democrats hate capitalism and are direct descendants of Joseph Stalin". The answer is easy "No", but why waste the time.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:48 PM

RUE

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Oh please. Do you really think that will happen ?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:19 PM

RUE

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I have sat here and thought and thought - what kind of question could be asked that would be so bad ?

One could ask Romney about changing positions on abortion, Giuliani about spending tax money on trips to see his girlfriend (mistress ?) and whether or not he has any answer for the US besides 9/11, Thompson about almost any policy issue, any republican who has courted the religious right about gay marriage and abortion etc.

But how are these not legitimate questions ?

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:19 PM

KIRKULES


That's the point of this thread. If Hillary gets to pick her own questions, and democrats get to pick the questions asked to Republicans, is there any time left for members of either party to ask legitimate questions to a candidate of their own party. Like I said before, if you want to influence the primary elections all you have to do is register to vote in that party primary. I can join the democratic party and vote for whatever candidate I think is the biggest loser then turn around and vote for a Republican in the general election. I wouldn't do this because I like the the idea of Democrats picking their candidate and Republicans picking their own. If the media wants to influence the outcome of the primaries they should do it with commentary, editorial etc., not by sabotaging one parties debate.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:22 PM

RUE

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"After spending the day facing accusations it stacked the deck against the Republican presidential contenders by having Democratic backers ask video questions during its debate, CNN on Thursday responded that it doesn't know what the fuss is all about.

The cable news network, in collaboration with video Web site YouTube, hosted the Wednesday night debate that had more than 30 voters pose questions to the Republican candidates. It later turned out that several of those questioners are actively supporting Democratic candidates.

"The whole point of these ground-breaking CNN/YouTube debates is to focus on substantive questions of concern to real people and to throw open the process to a wider range of Americans all around the country. CNN cared about what you asked, not who you were. This was the case for both the Democratic and the Republican CNN/YouTube debates," CNN said in a statement issued late in the day."

Maybe the idea that questions were restricted to democrats during the democratic debate is faulty ?



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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:27 PM

RUE

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Both you and Rap indicate that CNN broke some 'rules' in order to favor democrats. Yet everything I have found indicates the 'rules' you claim were broken were never in effect - for anybody.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:37 PM

KIRKULES


I'm sure your right that no rules were broken. I just think it goes against the American tradition of having a two party system.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:40 PM

RUE

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Maybe you don't like how they did things. But as long as they did them the same for all debates I don't think it's reasonable to have a snit about it being unfair to republicans.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:50 PM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Maybe you don't like how they did things. But as long as they did them the same for all debates I don't think it's reasonable to have a snit about it being unfair to republicans.

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That's all I ask is that they treat both parties equally. Allowing the democrats to pick the questions for both the democrat and Republican debates just seems a little unfair.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:05 PM

RUE

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(CNN) -- Monday will deliver a milestone in presidential campaign history, as user-generated video drives a debate.

At 7 p.m. ET Monday, the Democratic candidates for president will face questions sent in via YouTube. Then, on September 17, the Republican candidates will participate in the second CNN-YouTube debate.

At CNN, a small group led by Senior Vice President David Bohrman and CNN Political Director Sam Feist is looking over the questions.

Bohrman and Feist say they are pleased with the quantity -- and the quality -- of the questions coming in.

"It tells you that people want to connect with the candidates and they want to personalize them," Feist said, "and I think that's what this debate does, personalizes the questions, and it personalizes the answers in a way that journalists don't."

Bohrman said there may be some questions that challenge the candidates.

"There's not going to be a foolish, gotcha question because we're not out there to stump," Bohrman said. "We're out there to actually see how people who want to be president think and handle issues and questions and people that are slightly outside of their comfort zones."

"There are questions that we, the journalists, we, the mainstream media, would never think to ask in the presidential debate," Bohrman said.

Some, however, are questioning the process.

"If CNN has total editorial control over what videos are shown to the candidates, it's pulling the rug out from under the so-called 'user-generated content' revolution," writes Joshua Levy at Techpresident.com.

"This stuff is much less fascinating if a third-party gatekeeper comes in and tells us what is interesting and what is fluff. Instead, YouTube and CNN should let YouTube users decide what the best questions are, and then use those questions in the debate."

Users can submit presidential debate questions on YouTube until Saturday. The site includes the questions sent so far along with some tips for users on on how to help get their video chosen.

The Democratic debate, the first Democratic National Committee-sanctioned presidential forum of the 2008 election cycle, will be held at The Citadel in Charleston, South Carolina.

The Republican presidential forum hosted by CNN and YouTube will take place in Florida. Both will be aired live on CNN.


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No mention that only democrats are allowed.

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:12 PM

RUE

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July's CNN/YouTube presidential debate (

) offered a hybrid of new media and old gatekeepers. YouTube users submitted nearly 3,000 video questions for Democratic candidates -- including one from a climate-change obsessed snowman. Moderated by journalist Anderson Cooper, the debate featured 39 of them.



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Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:13 PM

RUE

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Rap

Are you getting the idea tha maybe Malkin is giving you less than complete information ??

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:26 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Since I didn't watch *E*I*T*H*E*R* of these debates, exactly what biased questions did these planted Democrat voters ask? Does anybody have direct quotes?
A question is a question. Unless it's a "When did you stop beating your wife?" trick question, it's just a question. And I doubt if anybody *M*A*D*E* the candidates answer any of them. Any candidate could have answered either, " That's a trick, loaded, biased question, and I won't answer it. " or " That question is too hard for a simple answer. We're studying it, and I'll give you an answer later."
Otherwise, any answer revealed something about the candidate, that might have been useful for someone making up his mind>

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Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:16 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Is THAT too much for you to handle?

Like I said, it would have been fine without the insult. It's fair to say that you can't impart a single concept I could not grasp. I got what you were saying, obviously you didn't get what I was. Nothing new there at any rate.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Friday, November 30, 2007 2:23 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Rap

Are you getting the idea tha maybe Malkin is giving you less than complete information ??

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No, she's giving me boat loads of info. It's the main stream media which is ducking this story. Well, except for FOX news. I saw them talking about this very issue on their 'special report' show, 6pm Eastern.

Why do you ask ?

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:07 AM

JONGSSTRAW


No one is to blame here except The Republicans themselves!

What the f-k are they doing even having their debate on CNN, the Clinton News Network, formerly, the Communist News Network??

CNN....the anti-American scumbag traitors who sucked Sadaam Heussein's pecker every day so they could keep a "journalist" there to report on America's disaster...CNN..who wouldn't undertstand the concepts of civility and fairness and equal time if it fell out of the sky right on top of Ted Turner's worm-ridden, fat head?

The Republicans SHOULD have known better...it's THEIR fault!

Hillary plants
Edwards plants
Obama plants...and they even flew in and put up in hotels on expenses these sleeper cell bastards...but NO>>>CNN didn't know of course!

Shame on you Republican Committee..if you keep fucking up like this and letting the smarmy, ever-devious and flip-flopping lying Dems always get the upper hand and control events, your'e gonna go down in flames faster than Mitt Romney applies his skin-glow oils each day.

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Friday, November 30, 2007 3:22 AM

AURAPTOR

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Yeah, I agree. Shame on the GOP for continually showing trust and good will to their fellow Americans, even while the Dems dump on FOX NEWS for no reason what so ever, other than to galvinize their own Left wing base. Too many in the GOP are the go along to get along types, and it quite frankly does them a disservice. The GOP tries to pretend that all's well in the world, and ignores the obvious attempts by those on the Left to sabotage their debate. Instead of getting pissed or calling out CNN, the candidates don their Stepford faces and act as if nothing's wrong. The candidates themselves don't have to do any of the dirty work, but where's the Paul Begala, the James Carville to rock the boat ???



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Friday, November 30, 2007 4:09 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Oh man, would I love to have Carville on our side. I mean the guy is a frikkin' juggernaut and he cracks me up with his warmth and wit sometimes. Although I detest his Clinton svengalism, I admire the man very much.

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Friday, November 30, 2007 5:34 AM

STORYMARK


My god, this is stupid. Those poor, poor Republicans.... They had to answer questions (and the ones I've read didn't seem loaded - just straight questions). If they can't handle that, they're seeking the wrong fuckin job.

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Friday, November 30, 2007 5:37 AM

FREMDFIRMA


"It's the main stream media which is ducking this story. Well, except for FOX news."

BWAAAhahah... *giggle*... hahahah *snort*. hehehe *snicker*...

That's hilarious...

And you know what, there's nothing, utterly nothing, I can do at this point to make you bunch of Insane Racist Zealots look any worse, any crazier or more dangerous, than you yourselves have done in this thread.

Congratulations, you've left me with nothing to do.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you...

The American Taliban, in Full True Color exposure, here for your edification.

Try to keep the fruit and vegetable throwing to a minimum, please.



Oh, yah... so.. Jong, yer like, all down with flogging journalists that don't toe the line, since yer accusing them of, well, what you said there... right ?

Who's next, schoolteachers who question Creationism or the value of the christian religion ?

But that's DIFFERENT .. right ?

Barring various semantic religious details, you ARE them, and you don't even see it.

Berk.


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