REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Let's Go 'Round the Circle Again!

POSTED BY: MILFORD
UPDATED: Friday, February 22, 2008 09:38
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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:34 AM

MILFORD


I often lurk in the Real World Events chat area to see what people are talking about, and I've been struck by the consistency with which the pattern of these conversations take. It's an easy template to follow:

Step One: Someone posts a news story about a perceived injustice in another country, usually, but not exclusively the Middle East.

Step Two: Said poster bemoans the lack of justice in that area.

Step Three: Said poster is supported by one or two posters who concur that injustice has been done, and that shame should be doled out in ladelfulls.

Step Four: The story is challenged by other posters arguing that Event X happens all the time in America, and that America, and by America it is meant the US, is simply another shade of the same color.

Step Five: Challenging Posters are then challenged by other posters aruing that the circumstances are different, or some such, and that events like these are different from events like those and so on.

Step Six: Posters on both sides of the argument then proceed to post multiple news stories confirming their particular perspective on the event, thuse proving that Event X is JUST LIKE or NOT AT ALL LIKE what happens in America.

Step Seven: Posters then resort to name calling and misquoting in order to justify their particular moral high ground.

Don't believe me? Watch what happens in the next twenty-four hours. I read three or four of these a week.

Odd, with all the American comparing, and praising, and bashing, and whatnot.

Edited for typo.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:03 PM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by milford:
Step Seven: Posters then resort to name calling and misquoting in order to justify their particular moral high ground.


Your right! Lets just skip to the end, knucklehead.

Edited to add: Knucklehead is a legal term that I often use in court to decribe certain opinions or behaivor by the good folks on trial. I save it for the good folks who just seem to get caught up once in a while due to either an innate or alcohol related lack of common sense. I have other terms to describe the really bad folk.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:09 PM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by milford:
I often lurk in the Real World Events chat area to see what people are talking about, and I've been struck by the consistency with which the pattern of these conversations take. It's an easy template to follow:

Step One: Someone posts a news story about a perceived injustice in another country, usually, but not exclusively the Middle East.

Step Two: Said poster bemoans the lack of justice in that area.

Step Three: Said poster is supported by one or two posters who concur that injustice has been done, and that shame should be doled out in ladelfulls.

Step Four: The story is challenged by other posters arguing that Event X happens all the time in America, and that America, and by America it is meant the US, is simply another shade of the same color.

Step Five: Challenging Posters are then challenged by other posters aruing that the circumstances are different, or some such, and that events like these are different from events like those and so on.

Step Six: Posters on both sides of the argument then proceed to post multiple news stories confirming their particular perspective on the event, thuse proving that Event X is JUST LIKE or NOT AT ALL LIKE what happens in America.

Step Seven: Posters then resort to name calling and misquoting in order to justify their particular moral high ground.

Don't believe me? Watch what happens in the next twenty-four hours. I read three or four of these a week.

Odd, with all the American comparing, and praising, and bashing, and whatnot.

Edited for typo.

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Your list hits pretty close to the mark. But when the subject is similar to one previously discussed many just go strait from step 2 or 3 directly to step 7.

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:23 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Quote:

Originally posted by milford:
Don't believe me? Watch what happens in the next twenty-four hours. I read three or four of these a week.


Water is wet, the sky is blue, birds fly and fish swim. Are you simply making an observation or did you have something more specific in mind?

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:00 PM

SERGEANTX


The list is pretty accurate and a good call on the pointlessness of debating whether we're "just as bad" as they are. I'd like to move past that and on to the unstated implication of these posts, which is usually making a case for American intervention. THAT's the debate we should be having. (And by "we" I mean the nation, not just us here in our little corner of nowhere.)

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:03 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Well, I got a novel idea for ya.

How bout we work on fixing those problems HERE before goin all around spending time, effort and resources trying to fix em for someone else ?

Solve that whole issue rather handily, wouldn't it now ?

-F

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I don't know about ya'all, but the original post seems less of an observation and more of an insult to everyone here. I find it funny that the original poster would waste their free time coming back to watch predictable re-runs every day. Must have an awful lot of time on their hands, I figure. Reminds me of my aunt who does nothing but smoke pot and watch re-runs of "Little House on the Prarie" when she's not at work.

Put down the pipe and go get yourself a girlfriend/boyfriend if the RWED bothers ya so much.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Friday, February 22, 2008 4:54 AM

MILFORD


There it is! That's what's missing! We have to have a comment about getting back to work. The delicous irony of people who post dozens of comments on the message boards, as I recognize Sixstringjack to be (does your name hint you to be a fellow guitar player?), instructing others to get back to work. Priceless.

As for whether I was being insulting or not, I certainly was not. I noticed the pattern, and was curious if I was the only one. I am interested in the variety of reactions I received. Some took my observation to be humorous, others insulting, others political commentary, and others an indication of laziness. In all actuality, I had about 15 minutes to kill on my lunch break and thought I'd share my observation.

The real question is how long it will be before the Pirate News guy, whose name presently escapes me, connects all this to an unreported conspiracy. If we can get that, and a picture of someone's cat, I think this will have culminated in the ultiamte Real World Events discussion thread.

Oops, we'll also need someone to post some newspaper stories in order for others to post conflicting newspaper stories as a way of retort. Then, and only then, will we have perfected the thread.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 5:36 AM

BADKARMA00


I gotta go with you on that one Frem. I was just reading about a World Poverty Bill that Obama sponsored that would take 485 BIllion of our tax dollars to 'fix the problems in the world', lol.

He want's us to feed the world, at our expense, while there are still people here in America who don't have enough to eat. Or access to adequate health care.

Go figure.

I still say you may make an anarchist of me yet, ROFL!

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Friday, February 22, 2008 5:58 AM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by milford:
I think this will have culminated in the ultiamte Real World Events discussion thread.

Oops, we'll also need someone to post some newspaper stories in order for others to post conflicting newspaper stories as a way of retort. Then, and only then, will we have perfected the thread.



I looked for newspaper articles but couldn't find any relevant enough. I did find some interesting info on conversation patterns.

Seem like communication patterns are common in all Societies not just online ones.

"Just as there are patterns in sounds, words, and sentences, so also there are patterns in conversation. In even in the most unpredictable conversations, there are certain devices that we use time and time again. "
http://english.unitecnology.ac.nz/resources/resources/exp_lang/convers
ation.html





They are using online conversation patterns to make visual images of the conversation.

"This design makes is possible to quickly see the social patterns in the conversation, including the scale and temporal rhythm of the conversation, who are the most active participants, who is engaged with the others vs. expounding independently, who writes long missives vs. short notes."
http://smg.media.mit.edu/papers/Donath/conversationMap/conversationMap
.html



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Friday, February 22, 2008 6:24 AM

MILFORD


Wow, I didn't think anyone would be able to post anything relevant. Way to go Kirkules. Those articles were very interesting. I'll probably use them in my classes next fall.

Kudos to you.

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Friday, February 22, 2008 8:44 AM

FREMDFIRMA


One doesn't have to be an Anarchist to desire that we put our own countries issues first on the agenda, just a Patriot.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

I may not have any regard for our Government, but I have a lot of regard for our people, our communities, and if they want to look to Government as the solution to their problems, well, for all that they give up in order to feed it - it should damn well prioritize the folks payin into it over those who do not.

Or they'll start looking to people like me instead, and to be fully honest about it, most folk in our current society do not care for our answers to the same problems, as they require too much personal involvement and responsibility.

The worst of it is, the actions of Government itself do more to shove folks into our camp than any other action, they are their own worst enemy and always have been.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, February 22, 2008 9:38 AM

BADKARMA00


I'll just have to give you the old 'well said' for that one Frem

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