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Utterly Tasteless Joke - Prepare to be Offended!!

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Too often, we let all the fun drain out of our political threads. I'm one of the worst offenders here, I know.

In the spirit of lightening things up just a bit, here's an utterly and completely tasteless joke that has no business being posted anywhere, and as an Obama supporter, I'll probably get a lot of shit for it, but what the hell - we need a laugh now and again.


Okay, so Saint Peter is standing at the Pearly Gates, ushering in the worthy and rejecting the doomed. There's a long line, but one by one they make their case. One soul steps up, and Ol' Pete asks, "Who are you, and what did you do?"

Obama says, proudly, "My name is Barack Obama, and I was elected the first black President of the United States."

Saint Pete is shocked. "Holy Shit!" he says, "You've gotta be kidding me! When the hell did this happen?"

Sheepishly, Obama replies, "About twenty minutes ago..."



I laughed, I cried, I cringed. The worst part was where I read it - on a gun enthusiast website!

Flame On!

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:39 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


That should not have made me laugh.

Especially as I've worried about the possibility.

However, as shocked and cringing as it may have been, there was laughter, and still is as I type this. OMG.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Was it Hillary what done it?

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:58 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Rose: I hear ya. That was my reaction, too.

By the way, I love your sig; mind if I borrow it? You are definitely NOT the only one!




Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:25 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
That should not have made me laugh.

Especially as I've worried about the possibility.

However, as shocked and cringing as it may have been, there was laughter, and still is as I type this. OMG.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.





*sigh IF Obama gets elected, he won't be shot. He'll just be a terrible President.

Keep in mind, I don't think McCain would do any better.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:15 AM

ELVISCHRIST


I've gotten to the point where I don't think either of them could *possibly* be any worse than what we've had the last 7.5 years...



Takin' Care of Business, Baby!

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:53 AM

JONGSSTRAW


I usually have a few beers after work with co-workers & friends who frequent the establishment....then there are always some who just wander in for the day. I have been utterly amazed of late at how "casually" some people talk about the possibility of Obama getting assassinated. Some even say it as wishful thinking. Now I don't really care what anyone feels about any candidate, but wishing harm on someone is plain wrong. And I think making jokes about it is just as demented.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:39 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


This coming from the chick who gets offended at everything (Jongstraw)....what a surprise. lol

Be careful everyone, we have to watch what we say (or joke about) lest the least of us may take offense.....

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:56 AM

ALLIETHORN7


Meh.
Sad to say, not only did this make me laugh... I was not surprised by it at all. My friend's say s he'd vote Hillary (If he wasn't only 15) because he thinks Obama will get killed right off.

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And how they all slipped through our Hands,
And this might be our only chance-
Let's take this One Day at a time,
I'll hold your hand if you hold mine;
The time that we Kill keeps us alive...

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:59 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
By the way, I love your sig; mind if I borrow it?


Not at all, please, I would love to see it spread

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:10 AM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

This coming from the chick who gets offended at everything....what a surprise. lol

Be careful everyone, we have to watch what we say (or joke about) lest the least of us may take offense.....



Erm, I think Kwicko's a dude, if that's who you're talking about.

Takin' Care of Business, Baby!

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:15 AM

RIGHTEOUS9



yeah, so many of us are afraid of this.

Obama himself has to have had the thought. Those are big stones he's got.

I'm one of those people that reserves judgement on exactly what happened to Kennedy. I don't have enough facts to state it was aranged by part of the government, but it's fishy enough that it makes me nervous.

Of course it only makes sense to shoot somebody if you think their running mate will be less of a problem for you, so just to satisfy my tin-foil hat issues, I hope he picks somebody left of him.

but oh the cover..."black man assasinated by country bigot..."

nobody will pry.


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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:19 AM

KANEMAN


There is nothing utterly tasteless about that joke.....seriously.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:27 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Now I don't really care what anyone feels about any candidate, but wishing harm on someone is plain wrong. And I think making jokes about it is just as demented.


Jongs: Relax, it really was just a joke. And don't say I didn't warn you it was tasteless and offensive.




Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:09 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


Truth? They won't kill him because he's the perfect puppet. Easily controlled and ready to sign anything. That's why Hilary dropped out, not because she had no chance, they wanted Barak because he could be contained. They made their choice on who gets into office. I know, I'm sounding as nutty as Piratenews. But considering who the real power is it's not as much as a suprise. Left/Right. Your all screwed anyway.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

They won't kill him because he's the perfect puppet.


It's not "they" I'm worried about; it's the random nutter who can't accept the idea of a black President.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:52 PM

VETERAN

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Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Was it Hillary what done it?



Didn't laugh at the first one. But you got me on the follow up.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Nah, if Hillary had that kind of juice, she'd have done it already, BEFORE she dropped out of the race.

'Course, Vince Foster might have a difference of opinion about that...
:)

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


...and Ron Brown might also disagree, being the highest ranking black victim of the Clinton murder machine. Many people only think of Obama in terms of "black" so Ron Brown's murder - errr, accident, ummm - is more appropo.

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:13 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
There is nothing utterly tasteless about that joke.....seriously.


The RETURN of Kaneman!
Nice to see your name around again.
How's trix?

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:29 AM

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:13 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Truth? They won't kill him because he's the perfect puppet. Easily controlled and ready to sign anything. That's why Hilary dropped out, not because she had no chance, they wanted Barak because he could be contained. They made their choice on who gets into office. I know, I'm sounding as nutty as Piratenews. But considering who the real power is it's not as much as a suprise. Left/Right. Your all screwed anyway.

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DON'T FREAK OUT

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Well it's true..........

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:21 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
There is nothing utterly tasteless about that joke.....seriously.


The RETURN of Kaneman!
Nice to see your name around again.
How's trix?





Good.... with milk, a coffee, and peanut-butter toast on the side.......

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:35 AM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
The worst part was where I read it - on a gun enthusiast website!

What were you doing on a gun enthusiast website? Are you bitter!?

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:01 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Khyron:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
The worst part was where I read it - on a gun enthusiast website!

What were you doing on a gun enthusiast website? Are you bitter!?

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This isn't my signature. I have to type this every time I make a post.



Bitter? Probably. Call it cynical realism. Or call it getting mine while the getting's good.

Why was I on a gun enthusiast website? Because I'm a gun enthusiast! Yup, that rarest of all creatures, the gun-loving liberal. :)

I was looking for info on my 7.62x39mm Saiga, the "sporting" version of the Kalashnikov AK-47/AK-74. It was what was allowed to be imported during the useless Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) that recently expired. It's actually turned out to be a good li'l rifle - I think I'll keep it. I was looking into the legalities and technical challenges involved in adapting it to use high-capacity AK magazines, but it looks like it's going to be a non-starter for me. Once you do the mods, you have to make damn sure you are still in compliance with Section 922r, or ATF is likely to come knocking (or "no-knocking" as the case may be...)

I'm developing a bit of a "thing" for Soviet weaponry. It's dirt cheap and dead-solid reliable. I'll be picking up an old Mosin-Nagant M44 later this week, which I paid all of $79 for. I'm told they're actually quite accurate out to 300-400 yards, so that's nice. And I'm looking into a Romak PSL as well (I'd love a real Russian Dragunov, but the price is out of my reach - and my wife's approval - right now, at around $3000 a pop!). The good thing about the PSL is that it takes the same 7.62x54R ammo as the Nagant, so that's one less type of ammo to stock up on...

Do I *need* any of these weapons? Not really. I have a nice little Ruger P85 9mm for home defense, and I'm fairly proficient with that, but I like the challenge and discipline of the "long shot" at the range, and none of these weapons are going to go down in value.

In fact, just last Thursday, a NEW Assault Weapons Ban was introduced into the US House of Representatives. The kicker on this one is that it's sponsored by House Republicans. :(

I think it's time I move on that PSL, or a nice pre-ban AK-47.



Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:26 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


Oh come on you can't hang Ron Brown on the Clinton's.

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Veteran:

You kiddin'? Hell, they've tried to hang everything from the Great Depression to the Great Flood on the Clintons...

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Veteran:
Oh come on you can't hang Ron Brown on the Clinton's.


sure you're right. obviously Ron Brown put both 9mm rounds into his brain all on his own without a gun while in a government plane after conveniently leaving U.S. Juridisction. it was completely reasonable for the white house to coverup, whitewash, claim it as accident, severely punish any who accidentally spilled the truth, and have billy laughing about at the funeral. that would be the white house the clintons occupied. just all coincidence, they had nothing to do with the murders under their reign.
And of course the facts that Cabinet Secretary Brown was the only pre-crash death, that crash survivor Sgt Shelley Kelly walked herself to the rescue chopper but arrived DOA of a broken neck, and the ATC for the flight commited suicide a few days later, as well as the airport maintenance chief about the same time, and that all the flight recorders were removed from the aircraft between the recent flights with Hillary and Chelsea, but before the Secretary Brown flight, mere coincindence. You are right, the C.lintons are completely innocent of everything, just mere bystanders of enormous amounts of coincidence for 20 years.

That Magic Bullet Theory was a good one too, for that mishap in '63.

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:34 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Truth? They won't kill him because he's the perfect puppet. Easily controlled and ready to sign anything.


We are talking about the guy who, unlike the last two Dem candidates, has refused to back down when attacked, never changes what he says even if he knows the people hearing it might not like it, and hasn't taken any money from lobbyists...? That guy? I'm rather unclear on how that equals 'puppet ready to sign anything.'

Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:
Obama himself has to have had the thought.


Considering he had a secret service detail the moment he announced his plan to run, I'd say he has. He's challenging the status quo on so many levels, he'd be a fool not to consider it. He's clearly not a fool, so security is going to be one of the things on his mind. Which is good.
No riding in open cars for Obama.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

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Friday, June 20, 2008 2:37 AM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Truth? They won't kill him because he's the perfect puppet. Easily controlled and ready to sign anything.


We are talking about the guy who, unlike the last two Dem candidates, has refused to back down when attacked, never changes what he says even if he knows the people hearing it might not like it, and hasn't taken any money from lobbyists...? That guy? I'm rather unclear on how that equals 'puppet ready to sign anything.'

Nice, PR.

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Friday, June 20, 2008 3:46 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Quote:

Originally posted by Veteran:
Oh come on you can't hang Ron Brown on the Clinton's.


sure you're right. obviously Ron Brown put both 9mm rounds into his brain all on his own without a gun while in a government plane after conveniently leaving U.S. Juridisction. it was completely reasonable for the white house to coverup, whitewash, claim it as accident, severely punish any who accidentally spilled the truth, and have billy laughing about at the funeral. that would be the white house the clintons occupied. just all coincidence, they had nothing to do with the murders under their reign.
And of course the facts that Cabinet Secretary Brown was the only pre-crash death, that crash survivor Sgt Shelley Kelly walked herself to the rescue chopper but arrived DOA of a broken neck, and the ATC for the flight commited suicide a few days later, as well as the airport maintenance chief about the same time, and that all the flight recorders were removed from the aircraft between the recent flights with Hillary and Chelsea, but before the Secretary Brown flight, mere coincindence. You are right, the C.lintons are completely innocent of everything, just mere bystanders of enormous amounts of coincidence for 20 years.

That Magic Bullet Theory was a good one too, for that mishap in '63.



And I'm sure you'd be only too happy to back up any of these claims with some factual evidence...?


Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Friday, June 20, 2008 4:00 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Truth? They won't kill him because he's the perfect puppet. Easily controlled and ready to sign anything.


We are talking about the guy who, unlike the last two Dem candidates, has refused to back down when attacked, never changes what he says even if he knows the people hearing it might not like it, and hasn't taken any money from lobbyists...? That guy? I'm rather unclear on how that equals 'puppet ready to sign anything.'

Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:
Obama himself has to have had the thought.


Considering he had a secret service detail the moment he announced his plan to run, I'd say he has. He's challenging the status quo on so many levels, he'd be a fool not to consider it. He's clearly not a fool, so security is going to be one of the things on his mind. Which is good.
No riding in open cars for Obama.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.



Right on. Obama's a "puppet", while almost the entire McCain campaign staff is made up of lobbyists, including Phil Gramm, who wrote the "Enron loophole" allowing energy speculators to drive up energy costs (hint: $4 a gallon gas does NOT put a bunch of money into the station owners' pockets, it makes speculators rich and falsely inflates the price of oil company stocks).

McCain is already deep in the pockets of the special interests and corporate monopolists.

I'm not saying Obama *won't* be there, but for now, he's trying to cling to some shred of integrity, something McCain gave up long, long ago.


Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Friday, June 20, 2008 5:12 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


Quote:

jewelstaitefan wrote:
Thursday, June 19, 2008 18:56
....obviously Ron Brown put both 9mm rounds into his brain all on his own without a gun while in a government plane after conveniently leaving U.S. Juridisction. it was completely reasonable for the white house to coverup, whitewash, claim it as accident, severely punish any who accidentally spilled the truth, and have billy laughing about at the funeral. that would be the white house the clintons occupied. just all coincidence, they had nothing to do with the murders under their reign.
And of course the facts that Cabinet Secretary Brown was the only pre-crash death, that crash survivor Sgt Shelley Kelly walked herself to the rescue chopper but arrived DOA of a broken neck, and the ATC for the flight commited suicide a few days later, as well as the airport maintenance chief about the same time, and that all the flight recorders were removed from the aircraft between the recent flights with Hillary and Chelsea, but before the Secretary Brown flight, mere coincindence. You are right, the C.lintons are completely innocent of everything, just mere bystanders of enormous amounts of coincidence for 20 years.



You write this yourself or did Sean Hannity's staff send you a fax? Next thing you're gonna tell me is Buddy Holly or Otis Redding died as the result of a government plot to suppress Rock 'n Roll.


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Friday, June 20, 2008 10:19 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Was it Hillary what done it?



Who told the joke, or exercised her 2nd Amendment?

Remember what happened to JFK Jr when he was about to enter the US Senate race in NY. He'd have been the slam dunk for prez in 08.

PS: Obama is cousin to both Bush & "Tater" Cheney.




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Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Quote:

Originally posted by Veteran:
Oh come on you can't hang Ron Brown on the Clinton's.


sure you're right. obviously Ron Brown put both 9mm rounds into his brain all on his own without a gun while in a government plane after conveniently leaving U.S. Juridisction. it was completely reasonable for the white house to coverup, whitewash, claim it as accident, severely punish any who accidentally spilled the truth, and have billy laughing about at the funeral. that would be the white house the clintons occupied. just all coincidence, they had nothing to do with the murders under their reign.
And of course the facts that Cabinet Secretary Brown was the only pre-crash death, that crash survivor Sgt Shelley Kelly walked herself to the rescue chopper but arrived DOA of a broken neck, and the ATC for the flight commited suicide a few days later, as well as the airport maintenance chief about the same time, and that all the flight recorders were removed from the aircraft between the recent flights with Hillary and Chelsea, but before the Secretary Brown flight, mere coincindence. You are right, the C.lintons are completely innocent of everything, just mere bystanders of enormous amounts of coincidence for 20 years.

That Magic Bullet Theory was a good one too, for that mishap in '63.



And I'm sure you'd be only too happy to back up any of these claims with some factual evidence...?


Mike



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Ummm.
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A quick check on a search engine (try yahoo) reveals:
"ron brown murder" produces 7,260,0000 hits.
"ron brown murder cover up" produces 627,000 hits.
"ron brown bullet" produces 3,340,000 hits with additional helpful serach word suggestions, such as "ron brown bullet hole" and "ron brown bullet wound".
"sgt shelley kelly" produces 206,000 hits, most mentioning that she survived the crash with minor scrathes, and walked around for 4 hours until suddenly dying of broken neck.
"steven cogswell usaf" produces 963 hits.
"david hause army afip" produces 235 hits.

Not sure if you are saying that you don't know haow to work this internetty thing without algore's manual, or if you need direct links to all 11 million links, or if you need me to produce the actual original copies of the autopsy film, or if your blinders prevent you from reading the secrets that 11 million of us are keeping from you in plain daylight. Caution: if you start to see, you'll become rational and conservative, so be careful. The truth will set you free of liberalism.

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Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Veteran:

You write this yourself or did Sean Hannity's staff send you a fax? Next thing you're gonna tell me is Buddy Holly or Otis Redding died as the result of a government plot to suppress Rock 'n Roll.




I can refer to facts aplenty without assist from that young whippersnapper Sean. I secretly blame him for the virtual dissapearance of the Great Barry Farber.
Of course J Edgar Hoover would never monitor or conspire against any musicians, or rockers, such as John Lennon, Elvis, Jim Morrison, Mick Jagger etc. - your prescribed instruction set should have already informed you of those obvious facts.

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Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:20 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Not sure if you are saying that you don't know haow to work this internetty thing without algore's manual, or if you need direct links to all 11 million links, or if you need me to produce the actual original copies of the autopsy film, or if your blinders prevent you from reading the secrets that 11 million of us are keeping from you in plain daylight. Caution: if you start to see, you'll become rational and conservative, so be careful. The truth will set you free of liberalism.

I believe what he's saying is that when one makes an assertion, the burden of proof is on you to prove it, not anyone else.

That's how burden of proof works. I realise as a republican, proof and burden and doing something for yourself may be alien concepts, but work with us here (of course that may also be an alien concept) :p

EDITED for readability.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Monday, June 23, 2008 6:18 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Not sure if you are saying that you don't know haow to work this internetty thing without algore's manual, or if you need direct links to all 11 million links, or if you need me to produce the actual original copies of the autopsy film, or if your blinders prevent you from reading the secrets that 11 million of us are keeping from you in plain daylight. Caution: if you start to see, you'll become rational and conservative, so be careful. The truth will set you free of liberalism.

I believe what he's saying is that when one makes an assertion, the burden of proof is on you to prove it, not anyone else.

That's how burden of proof works. I realise as a republican, proof and burden and doing something for yourself may be alien concepts, but give work with us here (of course that also be an alien concept) :p



Bingo.

JSF: I not only know how to use that there interwebs, I also know how to use a spellchecker! Look into it. ;)



Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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Monday, June 23, 2008 7:23 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Of course J Edgar Hoover would never monitor or conspire against any musicians, or rockers, such as John Lennon, Elvis, Jim Morrison, Mick Jagger etc...


Careful - buying into those kinds of conspiracy theories might get you labeled a "liberal".

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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