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We're Going To Get Our SEQUEL...

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Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:58 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


That's the good news...

The bad news is this one will not be set aboard the good ship , SERENITY...

This one is starring us...

And , it's set in Serenity Valley...

It's been a pleasure flyin' with you folk...

And , I don't mean to be ALARMING anybody...But ,

I'd start whistlin'...

And those of us that are so inclined...Best make peace with your dear and fluffy...Might need more than the pony and the plastic , to get through this...

This story's been a long while in the making...

I didn't make this one up...But , this link is consistent with the signal that I've been able to collect these past years...

And , I know it sounds like 'science fiction'...

But , we live on a 'spaceship' , dear...

And , we are made of stars...It's what we are...

Can't Stop The Signal :

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/preplanned.php

We Hold...WE HOLD !

http://www.motherjones.com/news/qa/2005/11/clyde_prestowitz.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/09/28/
do2802.xml


http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20080921/focus/focus1.html


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Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:21 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


Wow, that's too............. conspiracy minded for me. Mind you I believe there are those that may have brought on some of this mess, but purposely? And for what? I have no tinfoil hat, and if I did I don't think it would be that big.

I just left the Mythbuster's site after reading all the CT stuff about the Moon Landing. I can't handle more of this sh..... Good luck with that though.

And no..... I'm not Replublican. And no....... I'm not American.

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Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:15 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Wow, that's too............. conspiracy minded for me. Mind you I believe there are those that may have brought on some of this mess, but purposely? And for what? I have no tinfoil hat, and if I did I don't think it would be that big.

I just left the Mythbuster's site after reading all the CT stuff about the Moon Landing. I can't handle more of this sh..... Good luck with that though.

And no..... I'm not Replublican. And no....... I'm not American.




Ever read Orwell's 1984 ?

I did , in 1979-80...Still the most frightening book I've ever read...And I've read a lot of 'em...I met two persons with connections to an 'alphabet agency' during that timeframe...One was 'active' , and one was an ex-operator who'd left the company...

One was a flight instructor who was busy with a 'business' that was emplaced along an 'airline' route that was operational then...

Do a google search for 'Mena Connection' to get an idea of the nature of what I'm talking about...The instructor tried to hire me to do work for this 'airline' after several 'proving' flights...I declined , because I knew the Regulations regarding that sort of work , and the flights that I was being asked to make were of the 'contra-legal' variety , if you gather my meaning...Hardware and operators was going southbound , and 'recreational' substances and personnel were coming back 'North'. The substance was coming from S. America , and once was an ingredient in a popular soft drink from Atlanta...

There's a movie with Downey , Jr. and Mel Gibson , about some similar flyers doing 'deniable' flights in a different locale , and if you 'imdb' that , you'll know the sort of operations that I'm describing...

But , this airline I was asked to join was having its 'North' terminus within the States , and the 'Governor' of the state within which the flights were originating and returning to , was using the 'state police' to provide 'operational security' for the 'airline'...

He's a really famous Dem , not to be partisan or anything , but if you think about the most famous/notorious one of the last 30 years , and his V-P from Tennessee , you'll know the one...

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Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:15 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Anyway , you can probably tell that this is going to be a 'long conversation'...

I'm not going to give you much more in the way of 'personal experiences' regarding myself , but I did eventually take 'oaths-of-office' for some jobs that I had , and not all the work that I've done in the past is science-y and engineering related...

I'm not a moonbrain , no tinfoil hat required at the present time , and I Like the Mythbusters...They're not 'gay' , and they're not really scientists...

In my family tradition , that goes deep back into the early decades of the 20th Century , we know what 'works' , and what doesn't , and we've known a lot of folk that made stuff work , and got patents on those items , and had those patents exploited by nefarious folk and their schemes...

I'd tell you about the same thing that Shepherd Book would...It really doesn't make a lot of difference to me what you believe , but you do have to believe in Something...

Since we're on Literary subjects to a degree , you might want to recall that Alice's Adventures in Wonderland were subtitled , 'Through The Looking Glass' , and in a famous work of fiction by Baum , folk are admonished to " pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..."

Since you seem North American , but disavow US association , have a look at Jura's 'Orwell Today'...

The text of the book is there , but there are also loads of Links to non-fiction reports to help you look through the glass , and to 'pay attention' , if you choose...

'Cause not everyone is somnambulant...

http://www.orwelltoday.com

" Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws." --Mayer Amschel Rothschild

" Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. " --Thomas Jefferson

" I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. " --Thomas Jefferson

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Monday, September 29, 2008 12:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Don't know why anyone would go to so much trouble as to create this much fiction, this pile of go se, about who's to blame for all this.

Clearly, it's the Democrats, those tied to the hip w/ the directors of Fannie and Freddie. It goes back 20 yrs, to the likes of Micahel Lomax, former Fulton Co. Commishinor, who said, "If I, a powerful black elected official, can't get a loan, what black person can?" This helped start the wheels turning to force banks into making bad loans, for the sake of politics. Banks can't get loans paid back, they sell them to Fannie and Freddie, who are backed by who ? The US Tax Payers. And who is in bed w/ Fannie and Freddie ?

So many of you have been good friends to Fannie Mae and our mission. You've been friends through thick and thin. We have indeed come upon a difficult time for Fannie Mae. There is much to be done inside my company and I humbly ask you to help us and to help me. If there are areas where we are missing. If there are areas where we could do better, we'd like to hear it from our friends and I'd be so bold as to say our family first.
Fannie Mae CEO - Daniel Mudd, addressing the Congressional Black Caucus ( for Demcorats )

And then there's the greatest quote ever, by the Chair of the Finance Committee, Barney Frank.

“These two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” Frank said to the Times. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”







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Monday, September 29, 2008 2:10 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And, of course, there's the fact that most of the Fannie & Freddie lobbyists (the ones "tied at the hip to the Dems" as you put it) are working for McCain's campaign now, and he's been cashing their checks for years...

Mike




This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Monday, September 29, 2008 2:44 AM

SERGEANTX


It's the Democrats and their fearless leader, ie George W. Bush. I can't believe they rolled over for that son of a bitch again. What does he do, tickle them on their bellies? Seriously, the only real pushback he ever seems to get comes from his own party.

The only up side I can see to all of this is that maybe, just maybe, voters will learn their lesson an quit voting for Republicans and Democrats. How long can we keep falling for this folks?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Monday, September 29, 2008 5:38 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


O2B... I assumed everybody knew that stuff.

Rapo... you poor deluded fool. I don't know who's ass is providing a home for your head, but I can tell those ideas aren't even yours. Fannie and Freddie did not issue loans NOR did they set loan conditions or write fraudulent loan contracts etc. Big lenders like Countrywide managed to do that all on their loansome. (Loansome? Get it??? *nudge nudge*) Until you get your head out of whoever's ass it's stuck in, you're not even worth talking to.

BTW, that's delusion #22.

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Monday, September 29, 2008 7:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Wow, that's too............. conspiracy minded for me. Mind you I believe there are those that may have brought on some of this mess, but purposely? And for what? I have no tinfoil hat, and if I did I don't think it would be that big.

I just left the Mythbuster's site after reading all the CT stuff about the Moon Landing. I can't handle more of this sh..... Good luck with that though.

And no..... I'm not Replublican. And no....... I'm not American.

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Yes I agree. There's no such thing as a "criminal", and those non-existant criminals never get together to perp criminal conspiracies or organized crime. No human being has every been sent to prison, that's a conspiracy theory. Especially no banker or stock broker has ever gone to prison for perping financial crimes. No politician has ever been arrested and sent to prison. A private bank would never print US dollars, that's the government's job. The secretary of the US Treasury would never have $700-million in his personal bank account. No government employee or banker would ever tell a lie.

Quote:

"We have seen no bill. We are debating talking points. Mr Speaker I have been thrown out of more meetings in the last 24 hours than I ever thought possible. We are under martial law as declared by the speaker last night."
-Rep Michael Burgess (R), C-SPAN, September 28, 2008



“We are Constitutionally sworn to protect and defend this Republic against all enemies foreign and domestic. And my friends there are enemies. The people pushing this deal are the very ones who are responsible for the implosion on Wall Street. They were fraudulent then and they are fraudulent now. My message to the American people don’t let Congress seal this deal. High financial crimes have been committed. The normal legislative process has been shelved. Only a few insiders are doing the dealing, sounds like insider trading to me. These criminals have so much political power than can shut down the normal legislative process of the highest law making body of this land.”
-Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur (D), C-SPAN, September 28, 2008
htwww.youtube.com/watch?v=oAADyc6t4nY

“They want dictatorship, they want to pass all the penalties and suffering on to the average person on Main Street. We will have a depression or recession, it’s locked in place due to previous Federal Reserve actions. When they say that if we don’t do exactly as they say and turn over more of our money and more of our liberties and exempt themselves from any court in the whole nation, they’re trying to intimidate us and lead us into doing the wrong thing. It looks like from I see in Congress, that they’re opting for a decade plus of depression rather than saying let’s correct our ways, let’s balance the budget, let’s bring our troops home. Are we going to have martial law or are we going to have more freedoms? The more problems that we have, the more likely it is that we’re going to have martial law, so I do think they anticipate and they plan for these things. The Federal Reserve, that’s where the fraud is. We have proper authority with the FBI and grand juries and experience with it and the Enron case is a good example. They want to be lawless, they don’t want to be held accountable. I think they get to the point where they think they’re like God and can control everything and they don’t realize that the market really is more powerful than all the bankers and all the politicians. Ultimately the underground economy is the real economy.”
-Congressman Ron Paul MD, Sept 26 2008
www.infowars.com/?p=4868

"So I can hear what you're saying: 'But you guys replicated the moon shot on a set, and you're special effects artists. You're exactly the kind of guys that NASA would've hired to do this kind of thing in the first place!' All we really proved was how easy it is to fake a Moon landing."
-Mythbusters Moon Hoax


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Monday, September 29, 2008 12:45 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


Wow, I feel like I've just had a Dunce cap placed on my head and displayed for the whole class to see.

Yes, I've read 1984, seen the movie and actually understand it's message and realize we have similar situations happening, my point was trying to connect all those dots that DON'T make sense. (ie: most of your post)

And condescension is not appreciated. Don't believe I haven't a brain to digest all of this. I hate to be talked down to. You don't try to get your ideals across by addressing someone like they're two years old.

I would never had come into this thread if it weren't for the title. It's misleading when you see "We're getting a sequel". I ACTUALLY thought this was about a real sequel. If I knew this was a RWE thread I would have stayed away. You MIGHT want to consider changing that.

And as for that Gibson/Downey movie, it's called Air America. My mother and I saw it in the theaters and it was enough of a favorite of hers that she bought the tape.




Oh, and PN. Do me the courtesy of PLEASE never responding to me in a thread. Your the kind of person I avoid at the bus shelters.

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Monday, September 29, 2008 8:53 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:

Wow, I feel like I've just had a Dunce cap placed on my head and displayed for the whole class to see.

Yes, I've read 1984, seen the movie and actually understand it's message and realize we have similar situations happening, my point was trying to connect all those dots that DON'T make sense. (ie: most of your post)

And condescension is not appreciated. Don't believe I haven't a brain to digest all of this. I hate to be talked down to. You don't try to get your ideals across by addressing someone like they're two years old.

I would never had come into this thread if it weren't for the title. It's misleading when you see "We're getting a sequel". I ACTUALLY thought this was about a real sequel. If I knew this was a RWE thread I would have stayed away. You MIGHT want to consider changing that.

And as for that Gibson/Downey movie, it's called Air America. My mother and I saw it in the theaters and it was enough of a favorite of hers that she bought the tape.

Oh, and PN. Do me the courtesy of PLEASE never responding to me in a thread. Your the kind of person I avoid at the bus shelters.


I don't ride a bus, I ride a 160mph sportbike. Which is why I find understanding the legal system to be an important hobby.

1984 and Air America are FICTION, no matter what historical facts they use for framework. It's never wise to base your world view on works of fiction. Better to study HISTORY to comprehend reality, then sex it up with a little fiction on the side.

Let's see if you can comprehend an employee of the United States National Security Agency and the chief economist for the so-called "World Bank" (of US Govt), on the New York Times Bestseller List for his autobiography, Confessions of an Economic Hitman. His job was overthrowing nations using hugemongous bank loans and bribery of politicians:

CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HITMAN



www.economichitman.com

Now the New World Odor is using the exact same tactics to overthow USA, and probably every other Western nation. That's the purpose of all central bank corporations, by replacing government control of printing money (aka counterfeiting). Today was the largest one-day crash on Wall Street since the 1929 crash to kick off the Great Depression. Coincidence Theory?

Too bad you live in a fantasy world and cannot handle the Real World. I feel sorry for you and your pension plan. I'm not intending to hurt your feelings. It's just that the stakes are too high to play pretend. Suck it up and be an adult. The internet is a golden opportunity to watch FREE reality videos to gather intel and increase intelligence, something that had never been possible in world history. Thanks DARPA.MIL. That opportunity may not be available for much longer. 100 of my videos on Youtube were censored yesterday, 3rd time They did that. The Purges have begun. All part of the infowar.

All I am is an ex US military employee who got shipwrecked on the rocks, survived, and built a lighthouse to warn fellow boaters. Amazing how many sheeple say, "Look at that stupid lighthouse! It's a conspiracy theory to say those rocks are real. There's no such thing as rocks!"

BTW, my job for Uncle Scam was nuking US military bases by controlled demolitions of nuclear bombs, which might be important if you live in England.
www.piratenews.org/pentagonwhistleblower

And I think the title and thesis of this thread was quite clever, hopefully Serenity 2, but realistic enough to suspect a ruse. One reason I like Firefly is it's emphasis on reality - quite a concept for the SciFi genre. Which goes right over the head of most sheeple, apparently.

If you really want to understand the financial meltdown and the $100-Trillion scamout this week, read this free book online, or just the chapter on "Ten letters of an international banker to his son", by bankster Speerpoint Moregain, at Ru de Bankruptcy (street) in Paris, during his control of $100-billion in USA during the Great Depression. Apparently Moregain's son was unable to ampute his conscience, as his elitist father wanted him to do, and leaked the letters. This is like hacking Warren Buffet and Ben Bernanke's email.

Quote:



The picture which I enclose illustrates what I have been trying to tell you. It is a picture of a great fisherman, in the act of bagging a trout which he is about ready to pull from the water. You can see eagerness, anticipation, and pleasure expressed in his every look and gesture. It is symbolic of true sportsmanship. But think — my boy — would the fisherman ever get a thrill out of fishing if he stopped to think just how the poor fish felt about it?

As ever, your affectionate father,

(signed)

Speerpoint Moregain
Via Rue de Bankruptcy
Paris, France

FREE EBOOK: Syndrome of Control, by Pastor Lindsey Williams, page 105 to 182
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b4d6fc02af74485080d

www.scribd.com/doc/3911651/Lindsey-Williams-Syndrome-of-Control


Moregain's greatest fear was the "sheeple" discovering that the Federal Reserve Bank was private, and the "idiots" in Congress nationalizing the printing of money at zero interest to the banksters.

This week, that's the only thing that can save USA - and the world.

Quote:

Not one dime of income taxes goes to support any federal program."
-President Ronald Reagan, right before George Bushes' CIA cousin John Hinkley Jr shot him

Monopoly Men of the private Federal Reserve Bank Corp that counterfeits all US dollar bills and keeps all IRS income taxes:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7065177340464808778

American Freedom to Fascism proves that the IRS income tax is voluntary. Jew Aaron Russo founded the Libertarian and Constitution Parties, before he was assassinated by the Rockefellers for making this documentary:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

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-Rep Michael Burgess (R), C-SPAN, September 28, 2008



“We are Constitutionally sworn to protect and defend this Republic against all enemies foreign and domestic. And my friends there are enemies. The people pushing this deal are the very ones who are responsible for the implosion on Wall Street. They were fraudulent then and they are fraudulent now. My message to the American people don’t let Congress seal this deal. High financial crimes have been committed. The normal legislative process has been shelved. Only a few insiders are doing the dealing, sounds like insider trading to me. These criminals have so much political power than can shut down the normal legislative process of the highest law making body of this land.”
-Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur (D), C-SPAN, September 28, 2008



Congressman Ron Paul's Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act to Save USA - HR 2755
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.2755:







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Monday, September 29, 2008 10:51 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Wow, I feel like I've just had a Dunce cap placed on my head and displayed for the whole class to see.

Yes, I've read 1984, seen the movie and actually understand it's message and realize we have similar situations happening, my point was trying to connect all those dots that DON'T make sense. (ie: most of your post)

And condescension is not appreciated. Don't believe I haven't a brain to digest all of this. I hate to be talked down to. You don't try to get your ideals across by addressing someone like they're two years old.

I would never had come into this thread if it weren't for the title. It's misleading when you see "We're getting a sequel". I ACTUALLY thought this was about a real sequel. If I knew this was a RWE thread I would have stayed away. You MIGHT want to consider changing that...

...Oh, and PN. Do me the courtesy of PLEASE never responding to me in a thread. YOU'RE the kind of person I avoid at the bus shelters.




Well , if you feel like the hat makes you look like an idiot , don't put it on...

Sounds like you have a problem with " the Real World " , and events that happen there , and you don't like discussing those kinds of things...

Okay...

If that's the way you want it , Missy...

As for tryin' to connect all the dots that don't make sense , that's what rational minds work at...Of course , your mileage may vary...That's the way it works for everyone...Trust that Folk are doing the best that they personally can...

You didn't think it was condescending when you started with the 'tinfoil hat/ConspiracyTheory' snark ? I hate being talked down to , also , but I'd be willing to bet I've done a few more orbits than you have...If you don't like being addressed like a 2-year-old , don't play like it's just your ball , and when things don't go your way , don't just take it and run home...

Not everything is Frivolity...especially not Now...

We don't know if this 'sequel' will be titled
" Revolution 2 " ," Civil War 2 " , or " Apocalypse: The Final Chapter ".

The point of 1984 was this : " In a time of Universal deceit , telling the Truth
is a Revolutionary Act "...

Folk in RWED may be on a Quest to find some Truth...If you can't handle that , then this isn't your kitchen...

Missy , I encourage you to be more kindly and talk to a diversity of folk at the bus shelters...Everyone has a story , and you might learn something important...

Happy Serenity Day , Missy !

This time , I got you something...(It was on sale !)

http://www.globalresearch.ca


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Monday, September 29, 2008 11:09 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
O2B... I assumed everybody knew that stuff.

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Let's party like its 1929.



Seems to me that some folk maybe don't...

I like not making too many assumptions , 'cause making erroneous ones tends to taint the outcomes...

You know that...Right ?

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Confessions of an Economic Hitman. His job was overthrowing nations using hugemongous bank loans and bribery of politicians...Now the New World Odor is using the exact same tactics to overthow USA, and probably every other Western nation.
Holy shit PN, you've hit the nail on the head exactly!

For those of you who haven't read the book, the role of the hitman was to wildly inflate the economic prospects of underdeveloped nations which possessed significant resources. Those inflated prospects were used to rationalize loans that were deliberately out of reach of the debtor nation. The loans were greased with bribes and (if that failed) "the jackals" would follow. (Several national leaders who refused to play along died in plane crashes or were overthrown.)

When the inevitable default loomed, that economic leverage was used to capture the nation's assets.


Normally, I don't stray into conspiracy territory, but I found something that points in that direction. PLEASE NOTE THE DATE ON THE RELEASE

posted on: March 10, 2008

Quote:

A homeowners' bailout by U.S. Congress is a "surefire thing", according to George Magnus, UBS senior economic advisor, and the first bailout package is likely to be implemented by October. Speaking in a video interview with Gillian Tett, global markets editor, Financial Times, Magnus also estimated that the total likely losses from the credit crisis could reach as high as a trillion dollars. The following are excerpts from that interview:

FT: Do you have a back-of-an-envelope calculation as to how big the total hit could be in the credit world?

GM: .... If you want to take a sort of a round number, something close to $1,000 billion at the end of the day is not an impossible number.

FT: So if, indeed, we are facing a potential or possible trillion dollar meltdown, what should the central banks be doing about it?

GM: Well, I think the central banks are, or at least the Federal Reserve, I think, has taken out a very, very extreme form of insurance against this sort of meltdown. And, clearly, the speed and the rapidity with which interest rates have come down is indicative of that, and most people agree that that's not the end of the story that the Federal Reserve will carry on cutting interest rates maybe at least another 100 basis points... But, actually, it's only a part of the solution

FT: So, if monetary policy is not going to solve this by itself, what else can governments do? Are we going to basically end up with a situation where taxpayers will be footing the bill for the credit excesses?

GM: I think it's inevitable. Of course, here in the United Kingdom, the saga about Northern Rock, of course, is now, I think, kind of reaching, or has reached, a conclusion, and, clearly, to the extent that we have some form of nationalisation or public intervention, there is a bill for taxpayers. This is pretty small beer, I think, compared with the kind of activities which I think are going to take place in the United States. And I think that a bailout for homeowners in the United States is as close to a surefire thing as I can imagine. The losses on mortgages are so high and the stories and estimates which, perhaps, more significantly, people make about repossessions and delinquencies in the housing market are so high that, especially in a presidential election year, I think it's just inevitable that there will be very strong action from the Congress. The chairman of the Senate banking committee, Senator Christopher Dodd, is already on record as having indicated the way in which he personally would prefer the situation to be dealt with. And I think we have something of a time limit too because, of course, in October the US Congress goes into recess and the new Congress won't reconvene, I suppose, until after the State of the Union message in late January 2009. So by the time they get round to action it might actually be quite late in the day, so I think the first bailout package, to be honest, I think is going to happen between now and the end of October.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/67851-ubs-u-s-bailout-for-homeowners-w
ill-arrive-by-october

Well, perhaps the guy has a crystal ball. Maybe he's really good at predicting the future. Or perhaps he's gotten some back channel assurances from Phil Gramm, UBS VP and McCain confidante, that one way or another "Treasury" would come riding to the rescue. Also note that this is "THE FIRST" of the bailouts. UBS expects more.

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh, BTW... yes, I was highly disappointed that this thread WASN'T about our beloved and long-anticipated Firefly sequel!

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh, BTW... yes, I was highly disappointed that this thread WASN'T about our beloved and long-anticipated Firefly sequel!



Yeah , me too , me too !

I hope folk won't forget what we've seen and learned in our beloved 'Verse...

This is us , on the raggedy edge...

It's the love that keeps 'er in the air...

I hope everyone here has a real fine crew , and that they love one another...

P.S.--Signy , that's a really great catch...Very telling ! This bailout plan thing goes way back...And the elected reps didn't tell a thing about it...Some of the rank-and-file probably didn't know about it , but the peeps at the top certainly did...

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh, BTW... yes, I was highly disappointed that this thread WASN'T about our beloved and long-anticipated Firefly sequel!

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On THAT, we agree!!!!



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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by out2theblack:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh, BTW... yes, I was highly disappointed that this thread WASN'T about our beloved and long-anticipated Firefly sequel!



Yeah , me too , me too !

I hope folk won't forget what we've seen and learned in our beloved 'Verse...

This is us , on the raggedy edge...

It's the love that keeps 'er in the air...

I hope everyone here has a real fine crew , and that they love one another...

P.S.--Signy , that's a really great catch...Very telling ! This bailout plan thing goes way back...And the elected reps didn't tell a thing about it...Some of the rank-and-file probably didn't know about it , but the peeps at the top certainly did...



Hey a sequel is what you make it

Picture a crowd of somber people marching in a group up the the White House. On the lawn there stands two people, close up to the operative dropping ole Bush on a sword
and go on to explain how he wanted a better world, but would now settle for one not quite so fucked up as Bush slowly slides down the blade to the hilt. The crowd cheers.

cut to opening title




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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:18 PM

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America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

Hey a sequel is what you make it

Picture a crowd of somber people marching in a group up the the White House. On the lawn there stands two people, close up to the operative dropping ole Bush on a sword
and go on to explain how he wanted a better world, but would now settle for one not quite so fucked up as Bush slowly slides down the blade to the hilt. The crowd cheers.

cut to opening title

Lets party like its 1939



That's the stupidest, lamest, and most childish piece of go se I've seen on this board for a very VERY long time.

Congrats.



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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:41 PM

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Quote:

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...For those of you who haven't read the book, the role of the hitman was to wildly inflate the economic prospects of underdeveloped nations which possessed significant resources. Those inflated prospects were used to rationalize loans that were deliberately out of reach of the debtor nation. The loans were greased with bribes and (if that failed) "the jackals" would follow. (Several national leaders who refused to play along died in plane crashes or were overthrown.)

When the inevitable default loomed, that economic leverage was used to capture the nation's assets.

Normally, I don't stray into conspiracy territory, but I found something that points in that direction...




See there , Signy , you ARE a scientist !

You've discovered the principle that operates the mechanism of the ECON-Bomb !

The pattern was set a long time ago...

It began with the establishment of the Federal Reserve , and the IRS...

The culmination of it was shortly after Franklin Roosevelt was installed into office...

'Disaster Capitalism' ; the pattern repeats , but it's the same thing now as it was back then...

Reference March 9th , 1933 :

http://usa-the-republic.com/emergency%20powers/index.html

Scroll down the page , and find 'Bankruptcy of the United States' , there's a lot on the page , that folk should study...

Here's a direct Link , describing the 'Executive Orders' , and the 'Trading With The Enemy' Act that enabled the Original
Big Swindle of our country :

http://usa-the-republic.com/emergency%20powers/United%20States%20Bankr
upt.html


" Know WHAT is happening to You , and WHY..."

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Confessions of an Economic Hitman. His job was overthrowing nations using hugemongous bank loans and bribery of politicians...Now the New World Odor is using the exact same tactics to overthow USA, and probably every other Western nation.
Holy shit PN, you've hit the nail on the head exactly!

For those of you who haven't read the book, the role of the hitman was to wildly inflate the economic prospects of underdeveloped nations which possessed significant resources. Those inflated prospects were used to rationalize loans that were deliberately out of reach of the debtor nation. The loans were greased with bribes and (if that failed) "the jackals" would follow. (Several national leaders who refused to play along died in plane crashes or were overthrown.)

When the inevitable default loomed, that economic leverage was used to capture the nation's assets.

Normally, I don't stray into conspiracy territory, but I found something that points in that direction. PLEASE NOTE THE DATE ON THE RELEASE

posted on: March 10, 2008

Quote:

A homeowners' bailout by U.S. Congress is a "surefire thing", according to George Magnus, UBS senior economic advisor, and the first bailout package is likely to be implemented by October.

Let's party like its 1929.



Or party like its 2507A.D. WWMD?

This is not theory, this is already fact for billions of people, myself included.

The purpose of all bank loans IS default and repossession/forclosure/garnishment. THAT'S where the real profit is. Especially is a so-called franctional reserve system where all "money" is literally counterfeit. Our local mobil home billionair, Jim Clayton, got rich selling the same mobile homes over and over again, and even he went bankrupt, but still owns his own bank.

Small banks are devoured by bigger banks. This week's bankruptcy by WaMu was the largest bank "failure" in world history, but it's just another bankrobbery. WaMu was NOT insolvent, but the private international Federal Reserve Bank Corp raided it anyway, made the taxslaves bail it out, then gave it away to JP Morgan for pennies on the "dollar". All by design.

As I said before, my family founded and was on the the board fo directors of 30 banks that were raided by Reagan/BushSr in the 1980s, in retailiation for financing Democrat candidates for governor and Congress. Those banks were not insolvent either, but the CEOs went to prison. ALL banks can be raided the same way, since no bank is "solvent" when it loans out 100% of all deposits, to borrow an addition 1,000% of funny money from the "Federal" "Reserve" (NOT federal and has no reserves).

My own house was forclosed on, after being a couple days late on 3 payments of a 30 year morgage, due to my disability, and my wife fired for being a witness in a federal lawsuit. I DID NOT OWE THE BANK ANY MONEY. ALL PAYMENTS WERE CURRENT BY PAYING LATE FEES. The fine print of ALL mortgage contracts says forclosure is allowed when LATE on 3 payments out of 30 years.

All mortgage contracts also allow forclosure when property values drop, EVEN WHEN NO PAYMENTS ARE LATE AND NO MISSED PAYMENTS. That's what's happening now with the so-called mortgage "industry" (oxymoron) collapse. This is how everyone lost their farms, business and homes in the Great Depression, even when current on their payments.

So when I heard the interviews of the econmic hitman, I had already lived through a $7-million bankruptcy by my family, in 1980 dollars, back when $7-million was worth something.

I've discussed all these facts with my family on bankers, AND THEY HAD NO CLUE ABOUT ANY OF THESE FACTS, depsite being president of the TN Constitutional Convention in the legislature, that rewrote the state constitution in the 1970s, and ran for US Senate.

So yes, these Congresscritters are egotistical sociopathic greedheads, only capable looking out for themselves, so they fall right into the trap set by the NWO Jewish banksters. Read the Protocols of Zion 33rd Degree (sold at Walmart and supplied with every Model T by Henry Ford), written in the 1800s, which spells out the same gameplan that bankster MoreGain confesses in his letters, plus a great explantion of suckers who join secret societies.
www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm
www.texemarrs.com

Watch this hilarious trailer for this Jewish mockumentary titled The Protocols of Zion:
www.protocolsofzionmovie.com

"Jewish Lobby Vetoes Candidate Over Israeli 9/11 News."
-Dr Henry Makow PhD, Jewish inventor of Scruples
www.rense.com/general83/ddic.htm

"The Jews are staging a coup this week."
-Michael Moore, Jewish politician
www.rense.com/general83/bdv.htm

Jews would NEVER take over the world. Until this week.

Quote:

"Congress will not vote on the bailout until the end of the JEWISH holiday."
-WBIR TV, Sept 30, 2009

"Rosh Hashanah is a Jewish holiday commonly referred to as the Jewish New Year. The Mishnah, the core text of Judaism's oral Torah, contains the first known reference to Rosh Hashanah as the DAY OF JUDGMENT. There was to be a holy convocation; no servile work was to be done; and special SACRIFICES were to be offered. Philo, in his treatise on the festivals, calls Rosh Hashanah the festival of the SACRED MOON. In Jewish thought, Rosh Hashanah is the most important judgment day, on which all the inhabitants of the world pass for judgment before the Creator, as sheep pass for examination before the shepherd. It is written in the TALMUD, in the tractate on Rosh Hashanah that three books of account are opened on Rosh Hashanah , wherein the fate of the wicked, the righteous, and those of an intermediate class are recorded. The names of the righteous are immediately inscribed in the book of life, and they are sealed 'to live.' The middle class are allowed a respite of ten days till Yom Kippur, to repent and become righteous; the wicked are 'blotted out of the book of the living'. The ZODIAC SIGN of the balance for Tishrei is claimed to indicate the scales of judgment, balancing the meritorious against the wicked acts of the person judged. It is said in the TALMUD that on Rosh Hashanah the means of sustenance of every person are apportioned for the ensuing year; so also are his destined losses."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosh_Hashanah

Jewish Kol Nidre prayer:
"All vows, obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called onam, onas, or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next, we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths. And it shall be forgiven all the congregation of the children of Israel."
www.JewishEncyclopedia.com

“Just the Jews are humans, the Non-Jews are no humans, but cattle.”
-Jewish Babylonian (Iraqi) Talmud, Kerithuth 6b page 78, Jebhammoth 61a (goyim = human cattle)

“The Non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as slaves.”
-Jewish Babylonian (Iraqi) Talmud, Midrasch Talpioth 225

“The Non-Jews have to be avoided, even more than sick pigs.”
-Jewish Babylonian (Iraqi) Talmud, Orach Chaiim 57, 6a

“Sexual intercourse with Non-Jews is like sexual intercourse with animals.”
-Jewish Babylonian (Iraqi) Talmud, Kethuboth 3b

“The birth-rate of the Non-Jews has to be suppressed massively.”
-Jewish Babylonian (Iraqi) Talmud, Zohar II, 4b

“Everywhere they (the Jews) come, they will be the princes of the lords.”
-Jewish Babylonian (Iraqi) Talmud, Sanhedrin 104a

“Jews always have to try to deceive Non-Jews.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Zohar I, 168a

“Every Jew is allowed to use lies and perjury to bring a Non-Jew to ruin.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Babha Kama 113a

“The possessions of the goyim are like an ownerless desert, and everybody (every Jew) who seizes it, has acquired it.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, IV/3/54b

“When the Messiah comes, all will be slaves of the Jews.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Erubin 43b

Semite.
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and ARABS - b : a descendant of these peoples - 2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language.
—Merriam Webster Dictionary

"A 'Semite' is any person living in that area, including Arabs and Christians. It's time we start talking about 'The Other AntiSemitism'. A Semite is not a Jew living in America or Europe."
—Ralph Nader (Arab-American from Lebannon), Indy presidential candidate 2008, Reform Party presidential nominee in 2004, Green Party presidential nominee in 2000, Arab-American Business conference, C-SPAN, 2003




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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:55 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Wow. A rare TRIPLE post. Looks like someone is sure starved for attention.





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


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Wednesday, October 1, 2008 8:26 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Tale of the Missing TV tapes: Apollo 11 mission archive mystery unspools
www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2006-08-13-apollo-11-tapes_x.htm



Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:

Wow, that's too............. conspiracy minded for me. Mind you I believe there are those that may have brought on some of this mess, but purposely? And for what? I have no tinfoil hat, and if I did I don't think it would be that big.

I just left the Mythbuster's site after reading all the CT stuff about the Moon Landing. I can't handle more of this sh..... Good luck with that though.


I got your conspiracy right here:



Quote:

Missing Lunar Orbiter Tapes Surface at McDonalds

1. An abandoned building which is still in mint condition and “found” on an Air Base. How could anyone lose something as big as a McDonald’s grease pit? How long was it actually abandoned? 35 years? Or perhaps 14 years? The base was closed in 1994. Fig. 6 clearly shows the building clearly has a very modern interior, complete with the stools set into the cement floor. Fig. 1 shows this building wasn’t out in “far forty acres” but is located right in the middle of other buildings in a complex.

2. Facilities like these are considered civilian contractor facilities. They are absolutely never used for storage of any government property. Operation of civilian facilities usually goes to the lowest bidder.

3. Missing seals for protecting classified material are not present on cans.

4. Story describes “One of the two tape decks was found in a chicken coop and restored.” Utter nonsense – apparently someone has never stepped foot in a chicken coop.

http://data4science.net/essaytags/mcdonaldslunar2.JPG

www.data4science.net/essays.php?EssayID=848

www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Lunar_Orbiter_Tapes_Found.ht
ml



www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread394867/pg1


What's NOT wrong with this picture?!

NASA Abandons Plan to Fly New Spaceships by 2013
www.aulis.com/news186.htm

WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON
Hollywood award winning music video
http://piratenews.org/hollywood.html
http://UFOetry.com



"Half of writing history is hiding the Truth."
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Wednesday, October 1, 2008 8:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

That's the stupidest, lamest, and most childish piece of go se I've seen on this board for a very VERY long time.
I dunno, it kinda gave me a smile....


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Wednesday, October 1, 2008 9:53 AM

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America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

That's the stupidest, lamest, and most childish piece of go se I've seen on this board for a very VERY long time.
I dunno, it kinda gave me a smile....






That's becasue you've got the patriotism of Benedict Arnold and the morality of a shit house rat.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


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Wednesday, October 1, 2008 9:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

That's becasue you've got the patriotism of Benedict Arnold and the morality of a shit house rat.
Now YOU kinda give me a smile!

Thanks!

You made my day!



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Wednesday, October 1, 2008 10:02 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Aww, is the little laughingstock angry cause his mask has started to chafe ?

-F

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Wednesday, October 1, 2008 10:39 AM

CITIZEN


Lieben Sie die Präsidentenverräter! Heil Bush!



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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