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The most honset article I've seen about Obama

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 11:38 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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I brought it up because Obama turned his back on a friend under pressure from the media. If he wants to attend a church for twenty years to listen to a raving madman that's his business.....more power to him.



Likewise, if Sarah Palin wants to pal around with Ted Stevens in spite of his seven felony convictions, that's her business... why was she so quick to shun him and throw him under the bus? I thought they were longtime friends? She campaigned for him, and even ran on his "bridge to nowhere" issue, being strongly in favor of it before it was killed - AFTER which she decided she had really said "Thanks, but no thanks..."

And why has she turned her back on the Alaska secessionists after supporting them and palling around with them for so many years? If she wants to hang out with people who hate America and want no part of this country, that's her business, right?

Mike

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Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:34 PM

OPPYH


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
If she wants to hang out with people who hate America and want no part of this country, that's her business, right?

Mike




Well whomever gets elected president, it will probably be by a very narrow margin. Tuesday should be very interesting to say the least.

Good luck Mike.

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Sunday, November 2, 2008 12:38 AM

ASARIAN


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Originally posted by Khyron:

It's an opinion piece, so I'm not sure what you mean by "honest". Do you think all the millions of other opinion pieces on Obama were being dishonest, or at least not completely forthright? Or did you just mean that out of all the Obama articles you've read, this is the one you most agree with? In that case, look up "honest" in the dictionary.

As to the article itself:
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Here's a problem I have with Obama: at the end of the second debate he told how his family was on welfare when he was younger but he made it through Harvard. Well, guess where all that money came from? Rich people! Corporations put money into the welfare system, working people put money into the welfare system and you don't pay for a Harvard education without getting some pretty serious financial help from scholarships and endowments. And who funded those Harvard scholarships? RICH PEOPLE! And now his whole campaign is based on taking from the rich and giving to the poor. What a backstabbing ingrate.
Here's a problem I have with this article: Because of redistribution of wealth, somebody with the intelligence and intellect of Obama managed to study at Harvard, and he wants other people in the position he once was in to have the same opportunities. The author of this article thinks that's unfair, Obama should rather work towards benefiting the rich and making them wealthier, as a "thank you". If he doesn't do this, he's a "backstabbing ingrate", and a crook apparently too.

In my opinion, one has to be on a pretty loony fringe to be arguing that elected officials should work towards increasing the gap between rich and poor, and to post such an article and claim it's the most "honest" one one has read says a lot about you, imo.



I never post here, but I just wanna say: I don't disagree on any particular point. In fact, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. :)

As for Obama's resume, sure, it's not overly impressive. But wasn't it the Republicans who voted Schwarzenegger into office? I rest my case.

I tell ya why Obama will win, though. Because the Republicans have brought your country to the brink of collapse. Bush and his cohorts have shamefully funneled practically all wealth to the already wealthy, bled the Treasury dry fighting a stupid war. And, on top of that, in their unrelenting greed caused a financial crisis, the likes of which hasn't been seen since the Great Depression.

Bush and his cronies have committed numerous impeachable offenses, from flat-out lying about weapons of mass destruction, misleading Congress to start a war, to very serious conflicts of interest with regard to said war, like the whole Halliburton affaire. I say 'affaire' as if there were actually a scandal. Well, there was, but with the Republicans in power, all investigations were subsequently blocked. That always reminds me of that scene in The Godfather II, where the Maffia seek a partnership with the Cuban goverment to conduct their 'business'. That's the kind of relationship the super-wealthy have with the Bush Administration: a free reign to rob the country blind with the blessings of Bush. What ever happened to Microsoft having to split up? Under Bush, it all silently went away. I could go on and on...

And, oh yeah, the Bush Administration has been the most secretive since decades, with censorship of Internet and media on a level which would make China blush.

And that's why Obama will win: because another round of Republican rule will mean disaster for your country. The people are simply fed up. Ain't 'bout you, OPPYH, it's 'bout what they need.

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Sunday, November 2, 2008 3:52 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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And that's why Obama will win: because another round of Republican rule will mean disaster for your country. The people are simply fed up.



You mean ANOTHER disaster for our country, right?

Other than that (your understating the state of affairs here), you've pretty much nailed it. We HAVE to fix our country, because the alternative is too horrible to imagine.

Mike


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