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Obama's picks: 3 quitters, 3 tax cheats and 2 more conflict of interest.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:02 PM

STORYMARK


God damn it's fun watching Au fall apart, grasping at straws.

What ever happened to supporting your President, even if you disagree? He was all about it not so long ago....?

Oh, right, Rush skull-fucked him one(hundred) too many times, and squished all the brain matter out.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:04 PM

AURAPTOR

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Chris -
I'm not going to provide any links, for the point was well made, and so what if Obama didn't EXACTLY say anything about war mongering, it's the summation of his message, hell, of his entire campaign.

So go fuck yourself. You truly are a miserable piece of shit.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
rue - You're a fucking idiot. I said, and you clearly can read, that before March '08, there were perhaps 6 strikes in 4 years.

You're intentionally being a dick head for the sake of arguing this NON point.

For jesus fucking christ's sake, STOP BEING AN ASSHOLE!



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Hey, someone said we'd been doing it "for years", and you responded that we hadn't, and strongly implied that they were making it all up. Then reports were cited, to which you responded that those were from LAST YEAR, which was hardly "for years". THEN more cites were given, showing a period of bombings and airstrikes on Pakistan FOR YEARS - quite literally, since they stretch back at least to 2005, some four years ago. Hence, "for years".

And NOW you're going to get all pissy about it and claim "semantics"? You really are a giant pussy, aren't you?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:05 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Oh, see, I thought your point was "... we rarely bombed Pakistani territory

'Rarely' does not mean to AURhetoric what it means in Merriam Webster, Rue. Why are you so hard on the poor illiterate fellow?


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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
The point trying to be made was that bombing Pakistan was routine

Ahh, but that was not a word she used, monami.
Quote:

Obama campaigned on a promise to NOT be such a " war monger" as W
I...don't seem to recall him saying "I will not be such a war monger as President Bush."
Can you provide a link for that- you DO always back up your claims as you say, right?
In fact, I seem to remember in his campaign that he specifically stated that he'd allow pursuit & attack of terrorists into Pakistan if need be (The one part I vehemently disagreed with myself).

Oh, and you are a gutless bloody wonder, sir.


The laughing Chrisisall



Yes, AuRetard, you ARE such a stickler about words and their exact usage - at least when it comes to your idiot king Bush. "He never lied! He never said Iraq was a threat! He never actually uttered the words!"

Show me where Obama said he was never going to allow strikes into Pakistan. Show me the words.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:08 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

So go fuck yourself. You truly are a miserable piece of shit.


You know I love it when you're angry, but what example are you setting here for the children?


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:09 PM

AURAPTOR

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Gawd, you're an idiot. I never said they were from " LAST YEAR ". The whole god damn point was that we haven't been bombing Pakistan , routinely, around the clock , often or a lot, any fucking way you want to look at it. Attacks were RARE !!! HK tried to imply that , now that Obama is in office, we SUDDENLY are hearing about attacks, when before, we NEVER heard of them..

WE HEARD OF THEM, but not so often because they RARELY HAPPENED. Obama had just run a campaign saying he was going to do things differently, and then he goes about doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS HE CRITICIZED OF BUSH!!! Add to the fact that this was just AFTER his Immaculation, and the MSM's orgy fest of covering the new crowned King, it was OBVIOUSLY BIG NEWS!

Put things into perspective, for once, My god, you folks are beyond help.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:12 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Mike





Mike - Go fuck off and die a miserable death. Once again, you're comparing apples to oranges, and this is fucking BULLSHIT,



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:13 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Obama had just run a campaign saying he was going to do things differently, and then he goes about doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS HE CRITICIZED OF BUSH!!!

Yes, and I heard it said he ties his shoes in much the same way as Bush did, as well. Damn, he's a gorram CLONE!!!
(The meaning of this bit will be beyond your ken, AU, don't bother)


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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:16 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chris -
I'm not going to provide any links, for the point was well made, and so what if Obama didn't EXACTLY say anything about war mongering, it's the summation of his message, hell, of his entire campaign.




I know Chris already beat me to it, but this is just too damned funny to pass up.

So, if Obama didn't exactly say that, and yet you'll hold him accountable for what you thought he meant.... well golly, that just leaves your idol Dubya hangin in the wind, don't it.

You are so pathetic. I love it!

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:17 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by AURaptor:



Mike - Go fuck off and die a miserable death. Once again, you're comparing apples to oranges, and this is fucking BULLSHIT,


AU, all this negativity can just go away if you will simply stop with the dismissive superiority act. You are not infallible, none of us are, and one should be open to new ideas, not knee-jerking to some supposed 'jilt' by youthful left-wing idealism.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:17 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"The whole god damn point was that we haven't been bombing Pakistan , routinely, around the clock , often or a lot, any fucking way you want to look at it."

How about for years ? Is that a way to look at it ?

And you have to remember, most of my pre-2008 cites were related to Predator drones specifically. If I were to count US shellings the results would go up dramatically.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:17 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


Yes, AuRetard, you ARE such a stickler about words and their exact usage - at least when it comes to your idiot king Bush. "He never lied! He never said Iraq was a threat! He never actually uttered the words!"

Show me where Obama said he was never going to allow strikes into Pakistan. Show me the words.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."



Quoted for truth, and, well... cause this is just too damned fun.



"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:20 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:


So, if Obama didn't exactly say that, and yet you'll hold him accountable for what you thought he meant.... well golly, that just leaves your idol Dubya hangin in the wind, don't it.


Yep. When he pointed out that there is no real record of Bush actually saying the goddamned piece of paper line, I caved cause he was correct.
But no such luck when the concrete galosh is on the other foot.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:30 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chris -
I'm not going to provide any links, for the point was well made, and so what if Obama didn't EXACTLY say anything about war mongering, it's the summation of his message, hell, of his entire campaign.




I know Chris already beat me to it, but this is just too damned funny to pass up.

So, if Obama didn't exactly say that, and yet you'll hold him accountable for what you thought he meant.... well golly, that just leaves your idol Dubya hangin in the wind, don't it.

You are so pathetic. I love it!
B]



I'm right, and you're just too much of an asshole partisan to admit it.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:32 PM

AURAPTOR

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Asserting a right to self-defense, American forces in eastern Afghanistan have launched artillery rounds into Pakistan to strike Taliban fighters who attack remote U.S. outposts, the commander of U.S. forces in the region said Sunday.--

Wooo.... random shelling. BFD

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:32 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm right, and you're just too much of an asshole partisan to admit it.


This is not the immediate growth I was looking for....
(The adjective should come before the noun)


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:33 PM

RUE

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Nor villages ? Refugee camps ? Really ?



More importantly - can you prove that ?

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:33 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
RUE...we've not shelled ANY Pakistani cities,

Again, links please?


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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:36 PM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Gawd, you're an idiot. I never said they were from " LAST YEAR ". The whole god damn point was that we haven't been bombing Pakistan , routinely, around the clock , often or a lot, any fucking way you want to look at it. Attacks were RARE !!! HK tried to imply that , now that Obama is in office, we SUDDENLY are hearing about attacks, when before, we NEVER heard of them..

WE HEARD OF THEM, but not so often because they RARELY HAPPENED. Obama had just run a campaign saying he was going to do things differently, and then he goes about doing THE EXACT SAME THING AS HE CRITICIZED OF BUSH!!! Add to the fact that this was just AFTER his Immaculation, and the MSM's orgy fest of covering the new crowned King, it was OBVIOUSLY BIG NEWS!

Put things into perspective, for once, My god, you folks are beyond help.



I think it's pretty obvious that the three stooges are just screwing with you again AuRaptor. It's not possible that they could be that stupid and type and breath at the same time. Your statement from the very beginning makes perfect sense to anyone able to understand a basic concept, the problem they have is that they can't read your post without seeing their own preconceptions, instead of what you write. I dare anyone to read this entire thread again and not want to themselves.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:38 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
RUE...we've not shelled ANY Pakistani cities,

Again, links please?


The laughing Chrisisall

When Taliban forces on the Pakistan side of the border fire on U.S. outposts on the Afghan side, the Americans are equipped to quickly pinpoint the launch location using radar and then strike back with artillery, he said.
http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2007/02/us_launches_art.htm
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It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:39 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Nor villages ? Refugee camps ? Really ?



More importantly - can you prove that ?

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Yes, really. ASSHOLE.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:41 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm right, and you're just too much of an asshole partisan to admit it.




And this is what you're reduced to? "I'm riight, cause I say so, now stop with the facts and stuff, they make it hard to live in Rappyland".

Thanks, man. Keep 'em coming.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:43 PM

RUE

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You know 'double down' Rap --- I HAVE the references for US artillery stikes into Pakistan. Do you really want to stick with your 'never' statement ?


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I bet it hurts to be so wrong, so often.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:44 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2007/02/us_launches_art.htm
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Thanks.


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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:48 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Nor villages ? Refugee camps ? Really ?



More importantly - can you prove that ?

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Yes, really. ASSHOLE.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Then go right ahead. Prove it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:49 PM

AURAPTOR

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Kirk

I know, and you're right. But I have this crazy notion that folks who are smart enough to understand FIREFLY would have sense enough to take it upon themselves to have reasoned, honest and rational discussions, and not resort into distorting a point, taking things out of context and intentionally trying to goad anyone who disagrees w/ them into a pointless argue fest with out end.

Point of fact, they suck.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:52 PM

AURAPTOR

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Story , YOU prove it.

To sum up, we've not been shelling, attacking, Pakistan ROUTINELY , for years, day in, day out, or monthly, or even semi monthly.

Now, is all this fucking waste of time REALLY worth it for you dick heads?

I've made my point, proven my point, and I'm done with this bullshit.

I win, you lose ( again ) and it just doesn't fucking matter.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:55 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Story , YOU prove it.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Fuck that. I never claimed to have proof. You did.

Put up or shut up, bitch.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:57 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Story , YOU prove it.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Fuck that. I never claimed to have proof. You did.

Put up or shut up, bitch.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



Fuck you, cunt face. YOU PROVE IT, OR SHUT HELL UP.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:05 PM

FREMDFIRMA


*pokes the angry monkey some more*
(too lazy to bother thinking of an actual chain yank)

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:05 PM

RUE

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Well Rap, here's your problem (and 'little Kirk things' problems as well):

"Actually, we rarely bombed Pakistani territory in Bush's 8 yrs."
Here you want to count all 8 years.

"March , 2008. (except for) Just last spring, where as HK was saying we've been bombin' there for YEARS."
Here you want to exclude after spring 08.

"Half a dozen attacks in 4 years is hardly " bombing them for years ""
Here you want to redefine the plural, as in more than one year does not necessarily make it yearS.

"Prior to Spring of '08 ..."
Here you want to exclude after spring 08, again.


What you are saying it that it didn't happen for years - except, well, it did; and it wasn't routine - except, at a certain point, it was. As usual, you are trying to cherry pick your 'facts' by restricting which times you want to include. And which is what makes your arguments so hi-larious.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:34 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

"March , 2008. Just last spring, where as HK was saying we've been bombin' there for YEARS."
Here you want to exclude after spring 08.

"Prior to Spring of '08 ..."
Here you want to exclude after spring 08, again.

Because, as stated, there was an intentional change in policy to increase engagements. I was trying to establish the difference between the Bush administrations tactics , as a whole and the new, improved, friendlier Obama take on dealing w/ al Qaeda.

So, up until March of '08, few attacks, with selective targets, mainly retaliatory in nature. Afterwards, a more aggressive campaign.

Quote:


What you are saying it that it didn't happen for years - except, well, it did; and it wasn't routine - except, at a certain point, it was. As usual, you are trying to cherry pick your 'facts' by restricting which times you want to include. And which is what makes your arguments so hi-larious.




Nope, not what I'm saying at all, and anyone w/ a room temp IQ should be able to understand that. Which is why I think you do, and you're intentionaly trying to be obtuse, and distort what I'm saying, for the sake of being confrontational, and it allows you room to wiggle, and not admit that I'm indeed right. 6 attacks in 4 yrs in , by no measure what so ever, " routine". Not by any sane definition.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:38 PM

RUE

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Not really. And I've noticed you keep trying to shave off periods to make your point. You keep trying to get us to ignore facts just b/c YOU want to ignore them.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:49 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Not really. And I've noticed you keep trying to shave off periods to make your point. You keep trying to get us to ignore facts just b/c YOU want to ignore them.

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I'm not shoving off anything, I'm correcting your distortions. YOU are interjecting the irrelevent points to confuse the issue. I'm clear on my meaning. 8 yrs of Bush, rare were the attacks in Pakistan. Rare also were the reports. There was no routine campaign to attack sites in Pakistan, nor was there any routine attempt to silence those attacks from the media. It made big news 3 days after Obama was in office because

- it was 3 days after he was in office , and

- he had vowed to CHANGE how things were done.


It's that simple, and yet some want to distort, ignore, and exaggerate anything I say, so you'll then be able to take cheap shots at things I never said, or points I'm NOT trying to support.

Bravo.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:10 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


But you say it was "rare" when Bush did it, yet seem to imply that Obama doing it ONCE is somehow less "rare" than Bush doing it some dozen times.

I'm not trying to "distort" your words; I'm asking you to clarify your position. Why do you say that Bush doing something a dozen or more times is "rare" when Obama doing it once it "just more of the same"?




Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:13 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules:
I dare anyone to read this entire thread again and not want to themselves.


LOL...


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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:15 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules: I dare anyone to read this entire thread again and not want to themselves.


You first.




Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:19 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
But you say it was "rare" when Bush did it, yet seem to imply that Obama doing it ONCE is somehow less "rare" than Bush doing it some dozen times.



Mike, ya beat me to that point.
Frak!

Bottom line here, I didn't like Bush, and I like Obama, but when shit happens, I'll weedge; SOME folks here will only complain when it's not their OWN favourites makin' mistakes.
Y'all know who you are.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:26 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Why is it no one is trying to defend Geithner, Daschle, and Killefer, but are instead trying real hard to change the subject?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:33 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Seriously, folks, I'm interested in what you all think these appointees mean big picture or little picture. We could discuss how bad they would be/ are going to be, and if not that, why they're good selections despite the obvious problems. And similar.



As I've noted elsewhere, folks who fail to file their taxes correctly aren't going to get much support from the career civil service, who would risk firing and possible jail time for such actions. It's gonna be especially rough on Treasury, since World Bank employees are well known in IRS circles for fraudulently not paying self-employment tax on their income, like the new Treasury Secretary didn't.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:04 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
But you say it was "rare" when Bush did it, yet seem to imply that Obama doing it ONCE is somehow less "rare" than Bush doing it some dozen times.



Wrong. Not my point at ALL. And that's exactly what I'm TALKING about. You fabricating things I've never said.

Quote:


I'm not trying to "distort" your words; I'm asking you to clarify your position. Why do you say that Bush doing something a dozen or more times is "rare" when Obama doing it once it "just more of the same"?

Mike




There you go again. It wasn't A DOZEN times, it was half that, over 4 years. THAT is the premise I'm working from, not yours. What you're not getting is that Obama ran his campaign on being less militaristic, more diplomatic. As for Pakistan specifically, he DID say he'd focus more attention in attacking al Qaeda in that part of the world, and less in Iraq.

Funny thing is, I actually AGREE with this policy, as long as doesn't inflame the country and make them go MORE kookoo Islamic.

Which is exactly what W's admin. was concerned would / could happen.

Good luck w/ that.




It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:56 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:


As I've noted elsewhere, folks who fail to file their taxes correctly aren't going to get much support from the career civil service, who would risk firing and possible jail time for such actions. It's gonna be especially rough on Treasury, since World Bank employees are well known in IRS circles for fraudulently not paying self-employment tax on their income, like the new Treasury Secretary didn't.

"Keep the Shiny side up"



When we've trusted this administration to fix the economy, it's kind of disturbing when they seem to be skimming off the top. Not only is that sort of contributing to the problem, but there's also the feeling like just how well can they handle the nation's finances if they get by on their personal taxes by, what, playing pretend? Thinking the rules don't apply to them?

If Obama doesn't live up to his promises, I'm going to be mad as hell. I was hoping despite my better judgment and my disgust with both parties that he'd be different from the usual Republicrat. If he's not, then there better be repercussions for all they've done. Unlikely, perhaps, since they're in power and if this country gets worse we'll be too busy revolting and/or surviving to care, but I'd still like to see some justice.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 9:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Pop quiz.
How many Impeachments have been assigned to sitting U.S. Presidents? Three.
How many U.S. Presidents have been Impeached? Two.
How many U.S. Presidential Impeachments have occurred after the American Centenial? Only 2.
How many U. S. Presidents have been Impeached after the American Centenial? Only one.
How many U.S. Presidential Impeachments have been for sex? None.
How many U.S. Presidiential Impeachments have been for Perjury? Two, both for Slick.
The other Impeachent was a very important milestone in our Republic, setting important precedent.

Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Clinton's lies weren't about sex, they were about perjury.



God, you just can't stop reaching, no matter how stupid it makes you look.

The lies were about sex, that WAS the perjury. He didn't lie about perjury, you halfwit.



Trying to make a point are we?
Trying to imply Slick was not Impeached for Perjury? Trying to get sheeple to infer Clinton's Impeachments were for petty sex?
Sorry, you failed.

And just so folk won't get confused: Perjury is lying under Oath. Not lying to the press, or lying to other politicians, or having sex, or screwing the People, or revealing inconvenient truths. It's Lying under Oath.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:05 PM

HKCAVALIER


And in this case, lying under oath about whether or not he had sex with someone.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 2:49 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


So the lesson here is:

1) Don't answer, or give the Reagan "I don't recall" answer, which isn't technically a *lie*, because how can they know whether or not you remember something? Hell, how many times did "Fredo" Gonzalez use that old standard in his testimony? At one point, he couldn't even recall whether or not he could recall something!

2) Refuse to be put under oath, like Bush & Cheney. Just say no! If you're not under oath, you can lie under oath. Thus, you can't be impeached!

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 3:28 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
So the lesson here is:

1) Don't answer, or give the Reagan "I don't recall" answer, which isn't technically a *lie*, because how can they know whether or not you remember something? Hell, how many times did "Fredo" Gonzalez use that old standard in his testimony? At one point, he couldn't even recall whether or not he could recall something!

2) Refuse to be put under oath, like Bush & Cheney. Just say no! If you're not under oath, you can lie under oath. Thus, you can't be impeached!

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."



Obama has 3 choices quit on him,tax cheaters and somehow this has something to do w/ Reagan, Bush and Cheney ??



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 3:53 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Obama has 3 choices quit on him,tax cheaters and somehow this has something to do w/ Reagan, Bush and Cheney ??



It's called changing the subject.

Sen. Daschele paid $120,000.00 in back taxes for the years 2005-07, which means he 'forgot' to report between $350,000.00 and $400,000.00 in income. Wish I had enough money that I could forget receiving over $100,000.00 a year.


Sec. Geithner failed to file self-employment taxes for several years, although he had asked the IMF to pay him money which was supposed to be used for that purpose, and signed a statement acknowledging his understanding that self-employment tax was due. He was caught in an IRS audit and required to pay the tax and penalties. The IRS routinely audits IMF employees because their failure to pay self-employment tax is well-known.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 5:23 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

HK
And in this case, lying under oath about whether or not he had sex with someone.



Which says more about the corruption of the GOP than anything else. Larry Craig, when not playing footsie, presented a pretty conclusive case that Clinton had run guns to the mujahideen aka al qaeda resulting in 100,000 civilian deaths to capture a strip of land on which halliburton then built a pipeline. Craig wanted the president impeached for the monster he really was, rather than on a technicality. The GOP didn't go for it because it implicated Cheney.

Ah well.

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 5:30 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Wish I had enough money that I could forget receiving over $100,000.00 a year.



Posted by a brilliant dude over at Serenitymovie.org:
Quote:

Where was the Right-wing outrage when Dubya apppointed John Negroponte, well known for looking the other way when it came to death squads and human rights abuses while he was ambassador to Hondouras, as our ambassador to Iraq and other high ranking posts in the Bush administration ? Was he the only man capable of holding those positions ? Apparently Dubya thought so and it was all rubber stamped by the Repo controlled congress.

Of course many on the Right still consider Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy as upright citizens...in spite of their crimes.

A tax infraction seems like small spuds by comparison.







The laughing Chrisisall

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