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The Office of the President deserves RESPECT!!! Except, y'know, not NOW that Obama is in....

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:28 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
As my wife says...

Respect is earned, never given.

Obama wants respect, he needs to earn it.


So that random guy on the street you don't know, you don't respect him because he's not done anything to earn your respect?

What if he's a war hero and you just don't know it?



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Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:37 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Then he tells me, and PROVES it.

Then I respect him, for his willingness to put himself on the line for others.

Until then? Hes just meat, waiting to be laid out.

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 11:31 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:

Aside from PirateNews

My most recent exchange with him was very interesting.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Then he tells me, and PROVES it.

Then I respect him, for his willingness to put himself on the line for others.

Until then? Hes just meat, waiting to be laid out.



Which is why I have ZERO respect for you. You've never earned it.



Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:41 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Then he tells me, and PROVES it.

Then I respect him, for his willingness to put himself on the line for others.

Until then? Hes just meat, waiting to be laid out.



I'm so glad you're not a piece of meat I have to put up with in real life.

"Waiting to be laid out." God, how can you even type with your knuckles dragging across the floor like that?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:46 PM

WULFENSTAR

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Awww, Mike/Story....did I ruin your little fantasy world?

My knuckles are fine, thank ya kindly (btw).

And Mike, never expected it from your kind, nor wanted it.

I guess I'm just not a big enough whore to need your kind of "respect".

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:50 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Awww, Mike/Story....did I ruin your little fantasy world?

My knuckles are fine, thank ya kindly (btw).

And Mike, never expected it from your kind, nor wanted it.

I guess I'm just not a big enough whore to need your kind of "respect".



What fantasy world? Do you even try to formulate a coherent response? Because that's just dumb, son.

All you did was further cement my mental image of you as a bigoted redneck.

Guys like you, who make statements like "just another to be laid out", are just one of a million loosers out there who think they need to prove how manly they are. It's even funnier when some dipshit does it on the internet (like Rappy threatening me yesterday). Pathetic.

And I'm sure your knuckles are quite fine. You must have some pretty big calluses by now.



"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 12:53 PM

WULFENSTAR

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Lol Ok...

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:17 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Chris, you and all here know I only argue when I'm attacked, and as is the case w/ citizen, falsely attacked ME as being a racist. He knows I'm not, for all the TRUE racist say things which are racist, are proud of their race and racISM, etc.... citizen is the true racist here, because he insist on crying wolf and calling me a racist, despite any evidence to support his claim. I disagree w/ Obama, - tagged as a racist. I remark my anger at Islamic jihadist cutting off the heads of innocents, - tagged as a racist. What makes citizen a racist is that he clearly doesn't give one flip about the issue, at all. He's perfectly content on falsely pointing the finger at others, merely for the sake of being adversarial. He claims prior issues are what paint me as racist, but he can't give 1 solid bit of evidence. Quite a neat " out " for him, not having to support his claim.

We've gone round and round w/ this, and it's clear citizen is smirking at my ire over being falsely accused, for he gives not one iota about the issue of racism. He knows it's what gets folks wagging their tongues, and is the easiest pile of mud to toss at the opposition, because once thrown, it's almost impossible to erase.

citizen is a punk, a coward and pretty much exactly the kind of scum he accuses me of being, and he knows it.

Laugh it up, but you're only kidding yourself.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:18 PM

DREAMTROVE


This is a pretty enlightening can of venom pretending to be a thread.

Hero is actually the guy making the most sense. Mike is just f^&king with people. Chris would like people to think that he is, but I suspect once in a while he may actually care about something.

I have to quibble. I think Pirate News is a very sharp guy, and perfectly capable of having a civil conversation. He's just f^&king with people too. I think my current disagreement with him is over whether Moloch can be an owl. I know it's not a unique position, and I'll go post on that thread. But that's civil discussion towards a meaningful end which will conclude in more understanding of whether or not Moloch can be an owl. Now, this may not be an issue that matters to you, but it interests me.

Here's a matter which doesn't interest me, which is whether or not Auraptor is a racist. It's a very small issue, but I'll voice an opinion on it:

No, I don't think Auraptor is a racist. I haven't seen any evidence, and there has been *plenty* of opportunity for it. I do think that he has some stereotypes about groups which are objectionable, but so do a lot of people, and some of those stereotypes voiced by people include things like the intelligence of southerners, etc. And don't tell me that this wasn't already circulating before you got into an argument with Auraptor. I don't want in to this argument, which I think has betrayed all of its proponents as being in serious need of a chill pill, I just thought I'd weigh in.

Rap.

Personal note. Whozit dropped the bagel. Now I have to take him seriously. If you want to be taken seriously, not by me, but just in general, just a word of advice: Drop the islamofascist. It's screaming red flag for bigotry, whether you intend it to be or not, and not doing any of your arguments any good. So, don't do it for me, do it for yourself. I know I have to shut up sometimes, so shutting up now.

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Rap.

Personal note. Whozit dropped the bagel. Now I have to take him seriously. If you want to be taken seriously, not by me, but just in general, just a word of advice: Drop the islamofascist. It's screaming red flag for bigotry, whether you intend it to be or not, and not doing any of your arguments any good. So, don't do it for me, do it for yourself. I know I have to shut up sometimes, so shutting up now.



No. The quote does no such thing. Dennis Prager is a syndicated radio talk show host, columnist, author, ethicist, and public speaker. While a conservative, Prager can in no way be confused with the likes of Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. He is very respected, sincere, reasonable and measured in his views. I find absolutely nothing wrong with his quote, and in fact, I think it's brilliant for the very point it makes. Which is why I chose to post it.

What I get out of the quote, is that we can't judge ALL Islam for the actions of it's extreme radicals. Much like Christianity can't be judged for the micro fraction of evil doers, like Fred Phelp's cult, at Westboro Baptist.

The quote stays, and I'll simply wait for the light of reason to go off in those who don't " get it " yet.

But thanks for your input.



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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:46 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Mike is just f^&king with people.


Glad ya noticed. My take on most things is rather in line with my avatar - I'm content to be cute and snipe from a high perch.





Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 2:40 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chris, you and all here know I only argue when I'm attacked, and as is the case w/ citizen, falsely attacked ME as being a racist. He knows I'm not, for all the TRUE racist say things which are racist, are proud of their race and racISM, etc.... citizen is the true racist here, because he insist on crying wolf and calling me a racist, despite any evidence to support his claim. I disagree w/ Obama, - tagged as a racist. I remark my anger at Islamic jihadist cutting off the heads of innocents, - tagged as a racist. What makes citizen a racist is that he clearly doesn't give one flip about the issue, at all. He's perfectly content on falsely pointing the finger at others, merely for the sake of being adversarial. He claims prior issues are what paint me as racist, but he can't give 1 solid bit of evidence. Quite a neat " out " for him, not having to support his claim.

We've gone round and round w/ this, and it's clear citizen is smirking at my ire over being falsely accused, for he gives not one iota about the issue of racism. He knows it's what gets folks wagging their tongues, and is the easiest pile of mud to toss at the opposition, because once thrown, it's almost impossible to erase.

citizen is a punk, a coward and pretty much exactly the kind of scum he accuses me of being, and he knows it.

Laugh it up, but you're only kidding yourself.


Here we see a racist trying to prove he isn't one by calling others racists.

I like how your demanding me to prove you're a racist (which I've done many times before, just not here, as have others), yet make the same claim in the hopes of a reversal with out evidence. So basically you've just proven yourself a hypocrite, another qualifier to add to your growing portfolio of ignorant racist white trash idiot. In fact a bunch of your racist statements were posted quite recently, even Hero couldn't explain away them all. Your racism has been proven as a matter of record, so I'm not a racist for pointing out the truth, but you are a bigoted lying immoral hypocrite for trying to weasel out of it.

Anyone who hasn't seen you make openly biggotted comments against entire groups of people, even openly racist ones (which are often spun by you as you try to say that the group you're hating on isn't a race, so it's "ok"), hasn't been reading your posts.

Which is fair enough, most people don't, and really who could blame them? Why would anyone read the posts of someone who instantly attacks for no reason EVERY time, regardless of what was said to them, someone who NEVER makes any worthwhile contribution to this site, someone who could only improve this site by leaving it? Why would you think for a second that anyone would take you seriously, because they really don't you know.

You are everything I say you are, and YOU know it, as usual, since you're the kind of coward who threatens people over the internet, you just can't admit it. If you don't know you're a bigoted piece of brainless shit, then you're delusional.



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Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:24 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Blah, blah, blah......

Congrats. You're the lamest, least interesting, and by far, most repetitive troll on the entire site.



Most folks have enough shame to either put up or shut up. You, citizen, are shameless, as your sum total of evidence that I'm a racist = O.



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Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:35 PM

MIIKE


lol nothing ever changes you guys still at each other throughts ,been away 3 months and its still the same lol ,cool nice to be home

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Then I respect him, for his willingness to put himself on the line for others.

Until then? Hes just meat, waiting to be laid out.

Wulf, don't you have a gray area between earned respect and unearned hostility???



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Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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as your sum total of evidence that I'm a racist = O.
Apparently you overlooked mine. Rapo, I don't know if you're a "racist" (Arabs aren't a "race" per se) but you seem to have more than your share of fear of "the other". Come into the light, son.

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:30 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


It looks ilke the thread's too long for me to catch up. Oh well.

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:02 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by miike:
lol nothing ever changes you guys still at each other throughts ,been away 3 months and its still the same lol ,cool nice to be home



Nice to see ya again.
LOL< now click your heels together three times....


The there's no place like home Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:03 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Chris would like people to think that he is, but I suspect once in a while he may actually care about something.


Drat. I've been unmasked!




The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:06 PM

MIIKE


yeah you guys not only taught me how to behave on the net ,you also told me about the economic crisis it was like a well worn out joke here , but all you fellas where right it crashed,:)thanx

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:17 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Apparently you overlooked mine. Rapo, I don't know if you're a "racist" (Arabs aren't a "race" per se) but you seem to have more than your share of fear of "the other". Come into the light, son.

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Less vague would be nice, plesae.



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Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:17 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Come into the light, son.


He did, on another thread that shall remain nameless.


The Alba-brings-understanding Chrisisall

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:10 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Basic courtesy costs ya nothin.

And you can revoke it any time ya please.

And golly gee, it took ya THIS long to figure out Mikey likes to chainyank almost as much as I do ?

-F

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Friday, February 6, 2009 3:05 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Thanks, Frem - You had my MO pegged pretty early - probably because you're pretty much the same.

It IS fun to twist their tails and wind 'em up, eh?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, February 6, 2009 3:30 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
I like how your demanding me to prove you're a racist...In fact a bunch of your racist statements were posted quite recently, even Hero couldn't explain away them all. Your racism has been proven as a matter of record, so I'm not a racist for pointing out the truth, but you are a bigoted lying immoral hypocrite for trying to weasel out of it.

Anyone who hasn't seen you make openly biggotted comments against entire groups of people, even openly racist ones (which are often spun by you as you try to say that the group you're hating on isn't a race, so it's "ok"), hasn't been reading your posts.


I agree with him. Prove it. I'm not saying your lying. But the evidence in this discussion does not support the allegation. If that is the case and you have another record, please cite it for me.

I've been in a lot of these threads...but not all of them. Yet I can recall no overt racist comments by the people on this board. If I am mistaken, I think you should take the opportunity to prove your case.

Its like Global Warming. Your proclaiming his guilty as a matter of record, but all the evidence available to persons like myself show no such thing. Sorry, but that places the burdon on you to prove your allegation.

H

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Friday, February 6, 2009 3:34 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Blah, blah, blah......

Congrats. You're the lamest, least interesting, and by far, most repitive troll on the entire site.



Most folks have enough shame to either put up or shut up. You, citizen, are shameless, as your sum total of evidence that I'm a racist = O.


You're talking about yourself again. I'd say stop copying what I've just said to you and substituting my name for yours, but the fact you can't think for yourself (or spell even) is as well known as your racism.

You can't even string a coherent insult together, I'm as shameless as "0"? Think about it you dumb shit, you tried to say I'm shameless, but you've managed to say I'm the opposite. I mean I get the English language is hard for you, but at least put some effort in, 'kay?

But as Sig said, he's already proved it, he provided proof of your racism already. You just say it's not racist because "they're not a race" or "but they are all camel humping towel heads, if it's the truth it's not racist, sorry limey". You're as easy to read, and intelligent, as a pop up book with extra big writing. It's a shame that you're the only person here that doesn't realise it.



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Friday, February 6, 2009 3:35 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Rapo, I don't know if you're a "racist" (Arabs aren't a "race" per se) but you seem to have more than your share of fear of "the other". Come into the light, son.


He's demonstrated a legitimate fear of Islamic Terrorists. I don't know that such a fear amounts to racism.

If he said something along the lines of "all the fracking towelheads are terrorists" then I might agree. But I don't recall him saying that.

I note for the record that the use of a derogatory term to describe a select group of people can be, but is NOT always racist.

The "N" word is racist. "ChiCom" is not racist. "Cracker" is racist. "Jap" is not racist. "Boy" can be racist depending on the context. "Toaster" is racist (but who cares...fracking Toasters don't have real feelings).

H

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Friday, February 6, 2009 3:38 AM

DREAMTROVE


Nah, it's not that, frem, it's that sometimes he actually cares. in this case I thought he was going to get caught up in this nonsense, but he didn't. It's like how chris puts up the neutral.

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Friday, February 6, 2009 3:38 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
I've been in a lot of these threads...but not all of them. Yet I can recall no overt racist comments by the people on this board. If I am mistaken, I think you should take the opportunity to prove your case.


Towel head is a well known racial slur, sig showed others and you saw them so you know all about them. If you are that determined to say it's not racist, then you're not looking at evidence, you're just trying to support racism if it comes from someone you agree with on some salient political point. Towel head is a racial slur, trying to weasel around that is pretty much the same thing as saying "nigger isn't a racial slur because black people say it too each other".



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Friday, February 6, 2009 3:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


And the patheticness that is citizen continues.

Without citing a link, anyone can put quotes around some words and claim it's a legit quote.

" I happen to like young, greased up boys, dressed only in thong underwear " - citizen

There. By YOUR standards, I just proved that you are a pedophile, citizen.

You fuckin' freak.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, February 6, 2009 4:18 AM

DREAMTROVE


This thread needs some Jessica Alba pics

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Friday, February 6, 2009 4:27 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


" Skinny little Nancy Callahan. She grew up. She filled out. "

Whoa.Good pic.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, February 6, 2009 4:57 AM

DREAMTROVE


Funny, Nancy Callahan was my art teacher.

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Friday, February 6, 2009 5:36 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Towel head is a well known racial slur, sig showed others and you saw them so you know all about them. If you are that determined to say it's not racist, then you're not looking at evidence, you're just trying to support racism if it comes from someone you agree with on some salient political point. Towel head is a racial slur, trying to weasel around that is pretty much the same thing as saying "nigger isn't a racial slur because black people say it too each other".


Perhaps we need another thread to discuss this topic.

Some people argue and make very valid and reasonable points, that using the "N" is not a racial slur because African Americans use it themselves. I disagree and argue the that context is a factor.

For example, you typed the word...you must be a racist. Saying that would be improper because it fails to consider the context of your use of the suspect language.

Towelhead is a slur. It may or may not be a racial. It is perfectly reasonable for soldiers and citizens of countries at war to try and dehumanize their opponants by inventing a derrogatory term for them. Most people in this world are good people who would not under normal circumstances set out to inflict pain or death on another (either individually or on a massive scale). I suspect this allows such persons a means of dealing with the trauma of killing another human being under the worst possible conditions.

Towelhead is a slur, but is it directed at all Arabs or a specific subgroup? I believe in this case that context becomes the key. The nature of the slur is not its effect on the target, but rather the intention of the user.

Therefore if such a term was to be used by AU, and we've not seen evidence it was, what then was the context? Was he making a point? Was he talking about all Arabs? Was he being humorous or hateful? Etc.

I note for the record that I just made a reasonable contribution to the discussion without resulting to calling anyone a name or using any fracking profanity.

'Sigh'(Wanders off alone on the high road.)

H

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Friday, February 6, 2009 5:41 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And the patheticness that is citizen continues.

Without citing a link, anyone can put quotes around some words and claim it's a legit quote.

" I happen to like young, greased up boys, dressed only in thong underwear " - citizen

There. By YOUR standards, I just proved that you are a pedophile, citizen.

You fuckin' freak.


Actually the quotes are elsewhere, I never said the statements I made proved anything. You sure seem quick to jump to the paedophile thing, as as we know some of your greatest heros in the US government had a penchant for young boys, guess we now know why they're your greatest hero's huh...

What I said is that Sig has already proven that you're a racist, and he has, and in order to try and deflect attention from that, you erroneously accuse me of being a paedophile. I'd say pathetic, but the word really doesn't cover what you and your latest temper tantrum amount too.

In fact since I have government security clearance, and since I was a member of a household with a child minder, which means I had to be police checked by law, the fact that I would never do such a thing is a matter of record. The fact you would never do such a thing we only have your word for, and your word has been proven time and again to be less than worthless. In short, I am more trust worthy than most parents, and much more trust worthy than you could ever hope to be.

I suggest you rethink that, you sad jumped up racist little twerp.



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Friday, February 6, 2009 5:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Rapo, I don't know if you're a "racist" (Arabs aren't a "race" per se) but you seem to have more than your share of fear of "the other". Come into the light, son.


He's demonstrated a legitimate fear of Islamic Terrorists. I don't know that such a fear amounts to racism.

If he said something along the lines of "all the fracking towelheads are terrorists" then I might agree. But I don't recall him saying that.

I note for the record that the use of a derogatory term to describe a select group of people can be, but is NOT always racist.

The "N" word is racist. "ChiCom" is not racist. "Cracker" is racist. "Jap" is not racist. "Boy" can be racist depending on the context. "Toaster" is racist (but who cares...fracking Toasters don't have real feelings).

H



He has demonstrated an illegitimate fear of ALL Muslims. "Islam IS extremism" is a bigoted statement against ALL Muslims, not just Islamic terrorists. Referring to a group of people as "camel jockeys" and "towel-heads" is offensive to anyone of Middle Eastern descent.

How is "Jap" not racist? Because Japanese isn't a race, but a nationality? So then "Chink" wouldn't be offensive either? Really?



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Friday, February 6, 2009 5:47 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
And the patheticness that is citizen continues.

Without citing a link, anyone can put quotes around some words and claim it's a legit quote.

" I happen to like young, greased up boys, dressed only in thong underwear " - citizen

There. By YOUR standards, I just proved that you are a pedophile, citizen.

You fuckin' freak.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Weren't you the one who wanted to be trapped in the elevator with 20 14-to-17-year-old girls? And you're calling Cit a pedophile?

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Friday, February 6, 2009 5:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Towelhead is a slur. It may or may not be a racial.


Even if it wasn't a racial slur (which frankly it is) it's the same thing, and so saying "it's not racist" would be merely an attempt to defend bigotry with equivocation and hope no one notices. It's like defending someone who's stabbed someone else to death by saying "he didn't shoot him, honestly, he didn't"
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Originally posted by Hero:
Towelhead is a slur, but is it directed at all Arabs or a specific subgroup? I believe in this case that context becomes the key. The nature of the slur is not its effect on the target, but rather the intention of the user.


By that reasoning saying "all black people who live in New York are thieving niggers" wouldn't be racist, when clearly it is.



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Friday, February 6, 2009 6:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
"Islam IS extremism" is a bigoted statement against ALL Muslims, not just Islamic terrorists.

Referring to a group of people as "camel jockeys" and "towel-heads" is offensive to anyone of Middle Eastern descent.


"Camel jockey" is not offensive, its a respected occupation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_racing

The term may also describe Cylons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_jockey


"Towel-head", you may be right, although the similar term rag-head seems more negative. Still, context is important.
Quote:


How is "Jap" not racist? Because Japanese isn't a race, but a nationality? So then "Chink" wouldn't be offensive either? Really?


Its descriptive, not derrogatory. Japs, Yankees, Jerry, Joe, Husky, Gringo, Cheese-eating Surrender Monkey...nothing offensive. Just descriptive.

H

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Friday, February 6, 2009 6:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Even if it wasn't a racial slur (which frankly it is) it's the same thing, and so saying "it's not racist" would be merely an attempt to defend bigotry with equivocation and hope no one notices. It's like defending someone who's stabbed someone else to death by saying "he didn't shoot him, honestly, he didn't"


You accused him of being racist by using that language. What makes him racist is not using the term, but rather the meaning of the term. If its not racist language its just language and using otherwise neutral language is not racism.

So your example, defending a person who stabbed someone by saying "they didn't shoot them" is correct. But if a person were accused of shooting the person they stabbed...such a defense is reasonable because they are NOT GUILTY of the accusation.

H

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Friday, February 6, 2009 7:08 AM

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Japanese is a nationality and a race. It's a pretty monoethnic society. Also an extremely polite one.


My new secretweapon ;)

If you have something against that, then I don't know if there's hope.

Ah, my counter argument on Hiroshima



I don't care if she's military:



A new rhetorical techinique!

So, Truman, by nuking Hiroshima, robbed the world of a generation of geeky japanese who would have invented the flying car, made random animes, and oh yes, countless japanese schoolgirls.


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Friday, February 6, 2009 7:36 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
You accused him of being racist by using that language. What makes him racist is not using the term, but rather the meaning of the term. If its not racist language its just language and using otherwise neutral language is not racism.

So your example, defending a person who stabbed someone by saying "they didn't shoot them" is correct. But if a person were accused of shooting the person they stabbed...such a defense is reasonable because they are NOT GUILTY of the accusation.

H


Or, in other words bigotry is ok, as long as Hero can twist it in to not being racist. So saying "all Americans are evil" is 'otherwise neutral language' because American isn't a race. Thanks for clearing that one up

I still maintain it was racist. I said EVEN IF it wasn't, racist is still a term that would fit perfectly well, because it's the same bigotry just aimed at a group that doesn't happen to be a race. A racist by any other name is still a bigoted little twat, and equivocating on the exact name of their bigotry, doesn't actually make it better. Though it sure does seem that you're hoping to make it so by the application of sophistry. If it's not directed at what Hero considers a race, it's not racism, therefore it's "otherwise neutral language", please? If that's the sort of sophistry you employ in the court room they must have some real stupid juries where you're from.

Actually, what I was getting at, is that someone who says "all Americans are evil" can be said to be making a racist comment, even though Americans aren't a race. And by equivocating that "it's not racism because American's aren't a race" is defending bigotry, and attempting to make it sound like its "otherwise neutral language" when it's nothing of the sort. It's an emotive way of giving racists a free pass, actually. You're trying to cut racism down to something that only exists in such a narrow form that pretty much every racist there ever was could rightfully stand up and use your definition to prove they weren't racist.



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Friday, February 6, 2009 7:39 AM

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http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


And Citizen, you and your kind, who keeps trying to label folks as "racist" (in order to feel better about yourselves,perhaps?) are just like the Salem Witch-hunters.

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Friday, February 6, 2009 7:40 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Rapo, I QUOTED AND LINKED YOU TO ONE OF YOUR PREJUDICIAL STATEMENTS. Seems that you keep ignoring it. Man up and move on.

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Friday, February 6, 2009 7:46 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
And Citizen, you and your kind, who keeps trying to label folks as "racist" (in order to feel better about yourselves,perhaps?) are just like the Salem Witch-hunters.


I'm not trying to label people racist to make myself feel better. I don't feel good or bad about myself because of AURaptor's bigotry. So not really cup cake.

Me and my kind aye? Guess it's not just "Me and my kind" that like labelling people, huh. I like how you accuse me of something, by proving you are the very thing you accuse me of being. That's like almost poetic.

Though people who defend racists, and attack those trying to stop them, are just like the racists of today, and slavers of history. Perhaps they do it because they're racists themselves?



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Friday, February 6, 2009 8:16 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Salem With-Hunts, the Red Scare, racist hunting, its all the same thing.

Im going to give you guys a little lesson in humanity. We all hate each other to make ourselves feel better. Deep in our mind is the old lizrd brain going "At least Im not like THEM."

For non-smokers, its smokers. For skinny people, its fat people, for eco-freaks, its suv-drivers, for the Japanese its everone else...and on and on and on.

Its a human condition. Its just the way we are. We ALL want to fit in our own little group/troop and feel better than some OTHER group/troop.

I mean lets say you are a fat, ugly, shell of a human, who can't get laid to save their lives....well at least you don't drive an SUV, right? Thats makes you better than someone else, right?

Good, now you can stop contemplating suicide and carry yourself with a little dignity.

Its one of the reason I have such a problem with Liberals. They preach tolerance at the top of their lungs, and say EVERYONE can/should be a liberal...

Unless you smoke.

Or drive an SUV.

Or don't believe that everyone BUT whites, deserve a handout,

Or believe that NOONE deserves a handout,

Or thinks that people have the right to carry a gun,

Or that being gay is a choice, but if its not, it still doesnt entitle you to any special treatment,

or speak your mind without checking the PC handbook.

Then, for those and many other reason, you CAN't be a liberal.

But, God/goddess/Yahweh/Nothing (if you are an atheist, you know) knows that Liberals are the BEST!

Right?

Right?

Its the same thing, just repackaged.

So yes, Citizen, you ARE doing it to make yourself feel better.

At least you arn't like those terrible "racists" out there, right?

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Friday, February 6, 2009 8:34 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
So yes, Citizen, you ARE doing it to make yourself feel better.

At least you arn't like those terrible "racists" out there, right?



Ahh, so calling AURaptor a racist is the same as burning him at the stake. What a funny little world you live in.

Ironically though what you accuse me of, is defiantly what you are doing. Since it must be to make myself feel better, it must likewise be the same for you. You ARE calling me a witch-hunter to make yourself feel better.

Hell, everything you've aimed at me marks you out to be doing what you claim I am, only about a hundred times worse. AURaptor makes racist comments, I say he's a racist. I haven't then gone on to tell him what his political ideology is, how he feels about smoking, yet you feel able to do that to me, because I call racists, racists? Man that's one hell of a crystal ball there sparky! Might want to get it cleaned though, because your a ton wrong on just about all counts.

At least you aren't like those terrible people who stand up to racists right. It's funny, all I'm doing is saying AURaptor is a racist, for saying things that are racist. Then you pipe up and tell me I'm not allowed to say that, because that's witch hunting. I really hope you don't pretend to be anti-political correctness, because you're about the most PC person chirping away right now. Better not call a racist a racist, might hurt their feelings.

Silly little PC man. Just because you agree with racism, doesn't mean I can't stand up to it.





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Friday, February 6, 2009 8:40 AM

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Silly little PC man.



OOOoooooooo!


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Friday, February 6, 2009 8:51 AM

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http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Oh, please.

THIS is what I get for trying to shine a little intelligence into Citizens brain.

Citizen you are the worst kind of hypocrite....

"Standing up to racists"? Bitch, please.

A real "racist" would take one look at you, and after you peed yourself, would then proceed to beat the SHIT out you.

For looking at him in a "gay way", of course.

So take your self-discriminating, self-hating, b.s. somewhere else.




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