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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:15 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I question a Gay man judging women ( like they know what qualities to even look for ), and you quickly distort my point. Typical.


I dislike that they couldn't just respect her honest opinion, but I accept their judgement of beauty; I as a straight male can comfortably say that Johnny Depp & Bruce Lee are and were beautiful men. You need to remove those biased glasses before shooting your mouth off about that which you have prejudices about, AU.


The laughing Chrisisall



Chris, it's not that the guy was gay that's the issue ( on JUDGING a Miss USA contest ), but that he then went on to call her a bitch and a cunt afterward, on his 'blog', which he later took down, due to death threats. If that's the only reason he took his comments down, then that shows he's more of a pu...well, I won't go there. It's too easy. He had no business in the 1st place being a 'judge'. He's too biased and came to the make a political statement and not with any sincere interest to treat the pageant with any level of professionalism.

The chick chose truth over the tierra in her answer, and after market equipment or not, she's got my respect. He never will.




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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:22 AM

AGENTROUKA


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by AgentRouka:

Which has nothing to do with gay men judging female beauty pageants... I already stated that I disagree with this question being asked in the first place, so why are you bringing this up when the tangent was about female beauty?



The 'tangent' ? Well, it WAS the Miss USA contest. I think female beauty is sort of implied.






I'm confused.

The thread's subject is the question she was asked and the result.

The tangent we went on to discuss was the concept of who gets to judge female beauty.

You said that gay men shouldn't be allowed to judge it, I disagreed, and... then you suddenly abandoned that tangent to return to the original subject.

I called you on it and your answer now doesn't respond to that at all. "Female beauty is implied" is kind of a non-answer when the tangent was about who gets to judge female beauty.


So, to make it easy, let's just get back to the original tangent:

I disagree that gay men cannot judge female beauty.

Now you can either reply to that statement, which was a reaction to your original statement, or you can leave it be.

Just please no more confusing non-answers.


ETA: Just to clarify what I mean by tangent.
to go off on a tangent: to pursue a somewhat related or irrelevant course while neglecting the main subject

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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:28 AM

AURAPTOR

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Yeah, on the face of it, a gay man judging a female beauty contest does seem a bit oxymoronic, imo. Sure, if the person is in the field of fashion, fitness or some other particular area related to the contest, I suppose it's not big deal. But the gay judge was just that. GAY. Hes there as a celeb, and had no real business being there other than he's an outspoken gay man. And that's what we got.

Clear enough now ?




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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:43 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Its really simple.

The PC thugs have been working for a very long time to outlaw words or views that they think are "wrong".

PC people are just Nazis in disguise. We live in a free country, where you have the right to your views, beliefs and to speak about them however you want.

So what have we learned here today folks?

ETA: "It did cost me my crown," Prejean continued. "It is a very touchy subject and [Hilton] is a homosexual, and I see where he was coming from and I see the audience would've wanted me to be more politically correct. But I was raised in a way that you can never compromise your beliefs and your opinions for anything."

This chick is hot.


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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:48 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, on the face of it, a gay man judging a female beauty contest does seem a bit oxymoronic, imo. Sure, if the person is in the field of fashion, fitness or some other particular area related to the contest, I suppose it's not big deal. But the gay judge was just that. GAY. Hes there as a celeb, and had no real business being there other than he's an outspoken gay man. And that's what we got.

Clear enough now ?




So if he was a heterosexual guy without any fashion or fitness background, he'd be allowed to judge because he wouldn't be gay?

Why do you think gay men can't judge female beauty? Do you think female beauty must be tied to sexual attraction? Do you only consider people and things beautiful that you are sexually attracted to?

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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:50 AM

AGENTROUKA


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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

So what have we learned here today folks?





I don't think anyone here learned anything because apparently everyone in this thread already agreed that asking this question was out of line for the occasion.

What's with the smug tone?

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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:52 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Btw, this more a question of free speech and PC politics.

Not whether or not her views are correct.


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Friday, April 24, 2009 5:45 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


Gay men can judge...just not that gay man. He's a jerk. He's always been a jerk and always will be a jerk. He has no concept of judging policies and procedures. You don't give a zero. Especially if the person kept their cool and did not stutter or trip. He was a bad judge. I'm not saying she should have won. I'm saying she was misjudged.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 6:14 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Gay men hate women. Mommy made them wear a dress. That's why they're gay.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 6:33 AM

JONGSSTRAW


She's FOR gay marriage and looks _______ in a bathing suit.


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Friday, April 24, 2009 6:37 AM

AGENTROUKA


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
She's FOR gay marriage and looks _______ in a bathing suit.




The word you're lookng for is "normal".

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Friday, April 24, 2009 6:40 AM

JONGSSTRAW


And she is for gay marriage, hates Republicans, and doesn't believe there are any terrorists.... she is one smokin' hot baddass lady!


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Friday, April 24, 2009 6:45 AM

AGENTROUKA


Okay, this may be a difficult concept for you to understand, I don't know where you grew up, so let me try to explain.

People age.

When they are young, they look differently from how they look when they are old. And in between you see them change from one point to the other in slow-moving stages.

Also, and this may surprise you, one's opinion on gay marriage has actually no influence on how one looks in a bikini. I know, a disappointment, but you may just have to go back to sit-ups to get that beach figure this summer.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 7:40 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Ummm, I lol'd at the HillBillary pic.

Its sort of how an ugly person looks better with a good personality....and a pretty person looks terrible with a bad personality.

ETA: I threw up in my mouth a little when I saw Hillary in a swimming suit...thanks a lot Jong.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 8:05 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
People age.
When they are young, they look differently from how they look when they are old.



Like Barbara Bush for example :




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Friday, April 24, 2009 8:32 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Gay men can judge...just not that gay man. He's a jerk. He's always been a jerk and always will be a jerk. He has no concept of judging policies and procedures. You don't give a zero. Especially if the person kept their cool and did not stutter or trip. He was a bad judge.

TWG sums it all up in a neat package.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, April 24, 2009 10:18 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL


NPH should be a judge. I'd let him judge my bikini contest. Heck, I would've let Jim J judge a bikini contest. Perez is a wannabe poser asshat who is famous for picking on people.

I currently live in NC, so I'm cool claiming the the crown for our state. I'm glad Trump has come out to support Miss CA's actions. Don't care for him much, but it seems like he realizes Perez was a bad judge.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 10:57 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Btw, this more a question of free speech and PC politics.




Yeah, and I think that if they wanted a certain answer to their question, a script should have been provided.
PC actually MEANT something when it was born- now it's grown into a monster.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, April 24, 2009 11:15 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Btw, this more a question of free speech and PC politics.

Not whether or not her views are correct.




But seemingly whether or not HIS views are correct. I notice you don't seem to be standing up for HIS right of free speech and right to say whatever he wants, no matter whether it agrees with YOUR "PC" version of reality.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 11:18 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Gay men can judge...just not that gay man. He's a jerk. He's always been a jerk and always will be a jerk. He has no concept of judging policies and procedures. You don't give a zero. Especially if the person kept their cool and did not stutter or trip. He was a bad judge. I'm not saying she should have won. I'm saying she was misjudged.

---
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
-- Charlie Brown
www.thatcostumegirl.com
www.thatweirdgirl.com




Bingo. That's more on-target. I don't care if a gay man judges a female beauty pageant. Like I said before, way at the beginning of this discussion, I don't know any straight men who watch these pageants, so if men are going to be judging, it's a pretty safe bet that they're going to be gay men, at least some of them.

Perez Hilton is an idiot, pure and simple. Doesn't matter if he's gay or straight, he's a douchebag.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
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Friday, April 24, 2009 11:19 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Gay men hate women. Mommy made them wear a dress. That's why they're gay.



So did your mommy dress you like a Jew, or what?


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Friday, April 24, 2009 12:01 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:

So if he was a heterosexual guy without any fashion or fitness background, he'd be allowed to judge because he wouldn't be gay?

Why do you think gay men can't judge female beauty? Do you think female beauty must be tied to sexual attraction? Do you only consider people and things beautiful that you are sexually attracted to?



This wasn't Dick Buttons calling women's Olympic ice skating, where he's obviously qualified. No, this was a gay activist blogger who asked a polarizing question which was clearly intended to make a political statement, regardless of how any contestant answered. I sorta don't care either way, about the contest, but the politicizing of it does kinda annoy.

Look, TWG put it out there well enough. It's not that he's GAY, but that he's THAT gay guy. Gay Activist Blogger is on par w/ former baseball pitcher and famous bigot, John Rocker. They're the opposite sides of the same ridiculous coin.




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Friday, April 24, 2009 12:10 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Gay men hate women. Mommy made them wear a dress. That's why they're gay.



So did your mommy dress you like a Jew, or what?


*PRESENTS AWARD FOR FRIDAY'S FUNNIEST POST*


The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, April 24, 2009 12:28 PM

AGENTROUKA


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Look, TWG put it out there well enough. It's not that he's GAY, but that he's THAT gay guy. Gay Activist Blogger is on par w/ former baseball pitcher and famous bigot, John Rocker. They're the opposite sides of the same ridiculous coin.





So why did you imply before that there is something questionable about gay men judging female beauty contests in general?

Did you just phrase it wrong before or are backtracking now?

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Friday, April 24, 2009 1:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:

So why did you imply before that there is something questionable about gay men judging female beauty contests in general?

Did you just phrase it wrong before or are backtracking now?



Because, well, he's gay ? And it's a beauty pageant? For chicks ?







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Friday, April 24, 2009 1:28 PM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:

So why did you imply before that there is something questionable about gay men judging female beauty contests in general?

Did you just phrase it wrong before or are backtracking now?



Because, well, he's gay ? And it's a beauty pageant? For chicks ?




So you maintain than gay guys can't/shouldn't judge female beauty pageants?

Then let me ask you again: do you only consider people and things beautiful that you are sexually attracted to?

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Friday, April 24, 2009 1:46 PM

AURAPTOR

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So you maintain than gay guys can't/shouldn't judge female beauty pageants?
I maintain that I find it unusual. Why we still fussin' over this ? But not being a big fan of such pageants, I suppose I really find it unusual that bigoted, small minded gay men who are jealous of beautiful women would even want to be a judge in a Ms USA pageant.

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Then let me ask you again: do you only consider people and things beautiful that you are sexually attracted to?


People AND THINGS ? Hey now, Raptor don't swing that way.

The horse is dead. No sense in continuing the beating.







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Friday, April 24, 2009 2:03 PM

AGENTROUKA


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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So you maintain than gay guys can't/shouldn't judge female beauty pageants?
I maintain that I find it unusual. Why we still fussin' over this ?



Because I find it extremely curious to even question a gay man's ability to judge female beauty, is why. It implies that female beauty is entirely related to their sexual attrativeness in the eyes of heterosexual men. Which I vehemently disagree with.

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But not being a big fan of such pageants, I suppose I really find it unusual that bigoted, small minded gay men who are jealous of beautiful women would even want to be a judge in a Ms USA pageant.



What gives you the impression that he is jealous of beautiful women?

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Quote:

Then let me ask you again: do you only consider people and things beautiful that you are sexually attracted to?


People AND THINGS ? Hey now, Raptor don't swing that way.

The horse is dead. No sense in continuing the beating.




It's not dead until I've received an actual answer.

Sunset - beautiful? (Just to give an example of "things".)


Your mother - beautiful?
Your children - beautiful?
Your sister - beautiful?
Very good female friend - beautiful?

All these things a gay man would be able to judge as beautiful, even though he wouldn't be sexually attracted to them.

Saying gay men can't judge female beauty is ridiculous and implies kind of a sad view of female beauty.

Is my point.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 2:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I'm not backing down on this, sorry. I find it odd that a random gay guy would be asked to judge a beauty contest. I just do. It's not so much ability as interest. How you don't get that, is a bit beyond me.


This guy is clearly jealous. He sees her as a threat. He's small minded like that, it's clear from the very words he uses later on.

I've given you an answer several times. And now I'm done.

Thanks!




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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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He's small minded like that, it's clear from the very words he uses later on.


So when you use such words, it's to be taken as proof of your small-mindedness, is it? Is that what you're saying?

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Friday, April 24, 2009 3:55 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Well, let's try to find the equivalent and see if it works:

gay guy <=> straight female


So, as a straight female I'm completely unable to tell if a gay guy looks good along the lines of social expectations !


Is that what you're trying to say Rap ?

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Friday, April 24, 2009 4:09 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Well, let's try to find the equivalent and see if it works:

gay guy <=> straight female


So, as a straight female and I'm completely unable to tell if a gay guy looks good along the lines of social expectations !


Is that what you're trying to say Rap ?

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Silence is consent.



And, of course, the implied flip-side of that: If you're a straight man, you simply are not equipped to EVER say that another man is handsome or attractive. That seems to be the presumptive logic at work in Rappy's head.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 7:35 PM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
He's a jerk. He's always been a jerk and always will be a jerk. He has no concept of judging policies and procedures. You don't give a zero.



Yeah, he is complete and utter mystery to me. The fact that he makes his living ripping on celebrities and becomes a pseudo celebrity for this in the process? He's not a comedian, he is just some one who constantly rants.

I don't understand it. Maybe he will be on Dancing with the Stars next year.

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Friday, April 24, 2009 9:28 PM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm not backing down on this, sorry. I find it odd that a random gay guy would be asked to judge a beauty contest. I just do. It's not so much ability as interest. How you don't get that, is a bit beyond me.



I would assume it's because he's not going there to get turned on, but because he likes participating in the competition this way. Possibly because he was asked. Possibly for the same reason any woman would be a judge on this thing.

How that doesn't even enter your mind is a bit beyond me.

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This guy is clearly jealous. He sees her as a threat. He's small minded like that, it's clear from the very words he uses later on.



Good God. He may see her as a threat (and misguidedly take it out on her) but hardly because he's jealous.

Do you think all conflict between people who share an attraction to men must be about jealousy over those men?

WHY would he a gay man be jealous of a straight woman? They're not even after the same men!

I'll just have to take these words as an indication of some small-mindedness in you. It makes me a little sad because I'd hoped you'd at some point go "Oh wait, this attitude I have about gay people and women is kinda iffy."

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I've given you an answer several times. And now I'm done.

Thanks!



You hadn't. But you have now. And yes, thanks.

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