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Specter . . . What a boob

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:19 AM

RIPWASH


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090428/ap_on_go_co/us_specter_switch

LOL

Sorry. Couldn't resist. I just don't like the guy.

But really, this does not surprise me in the least. He's been voting and supporting the Democratic agenda seemingly for some time now, so just switch and get it over with already.

What stands out to me, however are these two sections of the article:
Quote:

"I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans," Specter said in a statement posted on a Web site devoted to Pennsylvania politics and confirmed by his office.

and
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Asked by a reporter what he had to say to his constituents, Specter replied with a smile, "I don't have to say anything to them. They said it to me."


I'm sorry, but this just seems arrogant to me. He claims he made the switch due to HIS personal philosophy, but then says he owes no one an explanation (least of all those who supported him all these years in the GOP) because his constituents told him to switch. Huh? What? I mean, that IS essentially what he's saying there. The statement boils down to "I am beholden to no one." Uh . . . excuse me, Mr. Specter, but you ARE. You are beholden to the folks that put you in office in the first place. If his supporters are truly behind him, then I say go for it. But as his campaigns were funded primarily by Republicans and the Pennsylvania GOP, then he's got some 'splainin' to do.

Those with more information than me on this, please enlighten as usual, but this seems like a standard political ploy to keep his job 'cause he REALLY knows that the GOP is gettin' sick and tired of his antics.



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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:29 AM

CHRISISALL


Bond always had trouble with Spectre.


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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:59 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


So your belief is that people don't support the candidate, but rather his party? In other words, when you vote, you're not voting for THE MAN and his ideas, you're voting for THE PARTY and ITS ideas. Is that how I'm reading you, Rip?

I figure if the majority of Specter's state went Democratic, he's reacting to their shift in party, and trying to best represent THEIR interests.

Believe it or not, I *HAVE* lived through this sort of thing before. Phil Gramm used to be a Democrat. After the Reagan Revolution, in 1983, he switched parties and became a Reagan Republican. He finished out his term in the House, and then got elected to the U.S. Senate as a Republican.

Was he a traitor, or a patriot? I suppose the answer to that probably has a lot to do with how you identify your own party affiliation.

What's got me MOST worried about Specter is the spectre (pardon the pun) of a filibuster-proof Senate. Scary stuff, no matter which side of the aisle you're on. I *DETEST* rubber-stamp Congresses no matter whose agenda their rubber-stamping! And with Franken's victory all but assured, Specter would make the magic 60 for the Dems. With a rock-solid majority in the House already, and a Democrat in the White House, this sets the stage for all kinds of abuse of power, the likes of which we haven't seen in... well, in about three years, to be honest.



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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:33 AM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
So your belief is that people don't support the candidate, but rather his party? In other words, when you vote, you're not voting for THE MAN and his ideas, you're voting for THE PARTY and ITS ideas. Is that how I'm reading you, Rip?

I figure if the majority of Specter's state went Democratic, he's reacting to their shift in party, and trying to best represent THEIR interests.

Believe it or not, I *HAVE* lived through this sort of thing before. Phil Gramm used to be a Democrat. After the Reagan Revolution, in 1983, he switched parties and became a Reagan Republican. He finished out his term in the House, and then got elected to the U.S. Senate as a Republican.

Was he a traitor, or a patriot? I suppose the answer to that probably has a lot to do with how you identify your own party affiliation.

What's got me MOST worried about Specter is the spectre (pardon the pun) of a filibuster-proof Senate. Scary stuff, no matter which side of the aisle you're on. I *DETEST* rubber-stamp Congresses no matter whose agenda their rubber-stamping! And with Franken's victory all but assured, Specter would make the magic 60 for the Dems. With a rock-solid majority in the House already, and a Democrat in the White House, this sets the stage for all kinds of abuse of power, the likes of which we haven't seen in... well, in about three years, to be honest.



Mike

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I guess what I was basically saying is the WAY he switched. The words he used just struck me as being very pompous and arrogant. You're either switching because of your own personal beleifs or because you felt a change in the wind and are going to save your rear end politically. I just don't see how you can have it both ways and he's trying to do just that. So it would seem. Does that make sense? I know that party switching goes on. That much is obvious. People change, ideals change, but very rarely do I think that people change soley on the fact that the majority of the constituents in their district are now of the other party (in other words, they actually admit to making the move on a political basis rather than a personal one). That shows weakness of character in my opinion. But that's just me.

I don't see him as a traitor OR a patriot, to be honest. I see him as someone trying to save his own butt come next election. But, then again, he could also serve as a prime example of why Senators and Representatives need to have set term limits.

If he were just to explain WHY he was switching (i.e. - my basic, personal beliefs have changed over time to the point where they don't gel with the GOP, blah, blah blah) and leave it at that - and wait until his term was over to announce it - THEN run again as a democrat, I wouldn't be having such a problem with it. I admit that's a perfect world scenario, but I'll also say that's how ANYONE should do it. I have a problem with him riding the GOP tailcoats and using GOP funds to get across his agenda which I don't THINK (and I'll admit I could be wrong here) gelled with the people who supported him because he was a Republican.

A lot of times people support a person BECAUSE of his party. I'll go out on a dangerous limb here and say that goes for Obama. He's a smooth talking, good looking guy with very little experience, but he was a Democrat so he was wildy popular and got people out to vote. I read and heard a few things about his supporters not really knowing much about HIM, but were voting for the generalization of Change that he embodied.

The filibuster-proof Senate scares me as well. That should NEVER happen and why that was ever allowed is beyond me. But watching Franken explode now and then (as he is wont to do) will at least make it mildly entertaining from time to time. He'll act pompous for a while, but when the winds of change . . . . change, he won't be able to contain himself. He can be funny sometimes, but MAN he's a jerk when it comes to politics.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:10 AM

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He's known for unexplained shifts to the left...magic bullet.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:14 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by RIPWash:

The filibuster-proof Senate scares me as well. That should NEVER happen and why that was ever allowed is beyond me.


With RINOs Specter, Snowe, and Collins, the Dems already had it. I say good riddance to him, and hopefully the others will follow him over to Harry Reid's camp as well. At least we can start clean to re-build a badly-broken Party. I wonder how Arlen reconciles the fact that he begged, fucking begged W to campaign for him in 2004 when his election was going to be close. Bush delivered, Specter won, and then the un-grateful bastard screwed Bush every chance he got afterwards. Hopefully, there is a final judgement someday, and I hope he's a goin' south, way south.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:49 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

With RINOs

Are they like Dinos?


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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:53 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

With RINOs

Are they like Dinos?


The Yabba-Dabba-Do Chrisisall


Pretty much the same Bam Bam, and their wishy-washy flip-floppin' media-whore retard-in-charge always shows them the way :



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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:15 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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With RINOs Specter, Snowe, and Collins, the Dems already had it. I say good riddance to him, and hopefully the others will follow him over to Harry Reid's camp as well.



Wait just a dang minute! Don't the Democrats get a say in this? I mean, while I might welcome moderates like Specter, Snowe, and Collins, do I have to keep Harry Reid? Ain't there some horse-tradin' we can do here? Tell ya what - you've got an honest face. I'm gonna give you the brother-in-law deal. You take Reid and Pelosi, and I'll throw in Hillary, and we get Specter, Snowe, and Collins.

Deal? (Crosses fingers, hoping Jongs takes the deal...)



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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:29 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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With RINOs Specter, Snowe, and Collins, the Dems already had it. I say good riddance to him, and hopefully the others will follow him over to Harry Reid's camp as well.



Wait just a dang minute! Don't the Democrats get a say in this? I mean, while I might welcome moderates like Specter, Snowe, and Collins, do I have to keep Harry Reid? Ain't there some horse-tradin' we can do here? Tell ya what - you've got an honest face. I'm gonna give you the brother-in-law deal. You take Reid and Pelosi, and I'll throw in Hillary, and we get Specter, Snowe, and Collins.

Deal? (Crosses fingers, hoping Jongs takes the deal...)



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You already have a Royal Flush....why you wanna throw away your King & Queen? The fact that some Dems, maybe like you, don't like Reid & Pelosi is quite amusing to me. From my perspective they are the political equivalent of ExLax. Don't much like takin' it, hard to swallow, but they do make "it" happen.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:34 AM

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The've got so much dirt on Magic Bullet Man that he might as well be one of his own MKULTRA sexslaves.




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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:41 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The fact that some Dems, maybe like you, don't like Reid & Pelosi is quite amusing to me.


You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little f****d up maybe, but they're amusing how, I mean amusing like they're clowns, they amuse you? They make you laugh, They're here to f****n' amuse you? What do you mean amusing, amusing how? How are they amusing?



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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:24 AM

WHOZIT


I wish someone would change the name of this thread to, "Specter hit by Magic Bullit that turns him into a Democrat".

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:28 AM

AURAPTOR

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29 yr senate career. There's the MAIN problem right there. Dude need to be sat down, for good. Time for him to be shown the door.




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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:03 PM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The fact that some Dems, maybe like you, don't like Reid & Pelosi is quite amusing to me.


You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little f****d up maybe, but they're amusing how, I mean amusing like they're clowns, they amuse you? They make you laugh, They're here to f****n' amuse you? What do you mean amusing, amusing how? How are they amusing?



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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:04 PM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:


With RINOs Specter, Snowe, and Collins, the Dems already had it. I say good riddance to him, and hopefully the others will follow him over to Harry Reid's camp as well.



Wait just a dang minute! Don't the Democrats get a say in this? I mean, while I might welcome moderates like Specter, Snowe, and Collins, do I have to keep Harry Reid? Ain't there some horse-tradin' we can do here? Tell ya what - you've got an honest face. I'm gonna give you the brother-in-law deal. You take Reid and Pelosi, and I'll throw in Hillary, and we get Specter, Snowe, and Collins.

Deal? (Crosses fingers, hoping Jongs takes the deal...)



Mike

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Oh no no no no no no no no no no. You guys got the whole package when you got the majority in both houses. You KNEW who the leaders would be and you voted in the majority anyway. Grin and bear it, bucko.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:15 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"29 yr senate career ..."

There are MANY who did and have served far longer, including Pietro Vichi "Pete" Domenici (36 yrs), Theodore 'Ted' Stevens (40yrs), and James Strom Thurmond (47.5 yrs). "There's the MAIN problem right there. Dude need to be sat down, for good. Time for him to be shown the door." Strom Thrumond I might add, switched parties, from democrat to repubican, in 1964 due to shifting demographics.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The words he used just struck me as being very pompous and arrogant.
Wasn't there more to it, tho? As I read it, he said he had toured the state and talked to his constituents and felt that his changing parties was not only more represetantive of HIS basic philosophy but also of the people he represented.
Quote:

You're either switching because of your own personal beleifs or because you felt a change in the wind and are going to save your rear end politically
I thought he ahd explained that pretty fully. He said it was the Republican Party which had changed, not him. The party had moved too far to the right and he no longer felt like they were heading in the same direction.

Did your article leave that out?

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

here are MANY who did and have served far longer, including Pietro Vichi "Pete" Domenici (36 yrs), Theodore 'Ted' Stevens (40yrs), and James Strom Thurmond (47.5 yrs). "There's the MAIN problem right there. Dude need to be sat down, for good. Time for him to be shown the door." Strom Thrumond I might add, switched parties, from democrat to repubican, in 1964 due to shifting demographics.



you forgot Ted Kennedy.

Gee, wonder why.







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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:40 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


No - didn't forget. I was just reminding you of who YOU forgot - and it seems you forgot quite a few. I didn't even list half of them.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:41 PM

AURAPTOR

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You forgot. And I called you on it.







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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:06 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


So --- now that we both have been reminded - do you think they should ALL be put out to pasture, just on the basis of length of service ? Say - anything more than 25 years ? Or do you only think that when it comes to democrats ?

Now's your chance to show us all how you really aren't just a partisan boob.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:16 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by RIPWash:

Oh no no no no no no no no no no. You guys got the whole package when you got the majority in both houses. You KNEW who the leaders would be and you voted in the majority anyway. Grin and bear it, bucko.





NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Curse you and your logic!



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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:17 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
So --- now that we both have been reminded - do you think they should ALL be put out to pasture, just on the basis of length of service ? Say - anything more than 25 years ? Or do you only think that when it comes to democrats ?

Now's your chance to show us all how you really aren't just a partisan boob.

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He doesn't think that ONLY when it comes to Democrats - he thinks it when it comes to Republicans who BECOME Democrats, too.

Subtle difference there...


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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:19 PM

AURAPTOR

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20 yrs is enough for ANY Senator, if not less.




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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Didn't Ron Paul change from Libertarian to Republican? Or am I confused?

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:09 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


This strikes me as funny:

Paul proposed term limits legislation multiple times, at first in the 1970s in the House where he also declined to attend junkets or register for a Congressional pension while serving four terms. Paul was re-elected to his tenth term in Congress in November 2006..

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:14 PM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
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The words he used just struck me as being very pompous and arrogant.
Wasn't there more to it, tho? As I read it, he said he had toured the state and talked to his constituents and felt that his changing parties was not only more represetantive of HIS basic philosophy but also of the people he represented.
Quote:

You're either switching because of your own personal beleifs or because you felt a change in the wind and are going to save your rear end politically
I thought he ahd explained that pretty fully. He said it was the Republican Party which had changed, not him. The party had moved too far to the right and he no longer felt like they were heading in the same direction.

Did your article leave that out?

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They pit us like dogs against each other and rake it in. And I'll bet they laugh when they hear dupes like you defend the system that fucks you over and rewards them so nicely! But the one thing they'll stamp out in horror as if it were the spark of conflagration is any whiff of socialism. That should tell you something.



You may have gotten your input from another source. I don't think mine included what you said (I just got it off Yahoo and don't remember what their source was and don't remember at this point - several hours later - if your points were in it ).

Like I said, people change, I just thought his reasons were weak from what I read in that article.

Reagan said the same about the Democratic Party, I believe. That he didn't leave it, it left him.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Tell you the truth, I think term limits might be misdirected. And, what if the incumbent IS the best candidate? Aren't you depriving his/ her constituents of choice?
Quote:

You may have gotten your input from another source.
Cnn. The article may have been more complete, or emphasized different things.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:18 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


I'm not for term limits.

I just thought it was funny - there's Paul, proposing term limits multiple times - as he serves 10 terms, minimum.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:18 PM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by RIPWash:

Oh no no no no no no no no no no. You guys got the whole package when you got the majority in both houses. You KNEW who the leaders would be and you voted in the majority anyway. Grin and bear it, bucko.





NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Curse you and your logic!



Mike

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Oh . . . wait . . . did I just win a small victory there? If I blinked I might have missed it! Whoopee! Yay for me!

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:23 PM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Aren't you depriving his/ her constituents of choice?



Not necessarily. They'd just have a different choice to make. Same way we have to make every 4 to 8 years with the Presidency. I'd be more in favor of limits on consecutive term limits. Give some other schmo a chance after the the first term limit, but they can run again later. I just think that they really do lose touch with reality being in Washington that long.



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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:30 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Personally, I'm more in favor of a parliamentary system. You serve as long as your constituents want you there. But you'd better be on your toes - you can be voted out at any time !

If you get the idea that I'm pissed off at how the current system is gamed - say ANYTHING to get elected, do what you want during your term, and get on the PR stick the last 6 months (maybe 8) - you'd be right.
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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by RIPWash:
Oh . . . wait . . . did I just win a small victory there? If I blinked I might have missed it! Whoopee! Yay for me!

Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas



I do believe you carried the day on that one. Seems no matter how I try, I can't seem to shake Reid & Pelosi.

You sure you won't reconsider? I can throw in free rustproofing and undercoating. I'll talk to my sales manager and see if he'll agree to throw in floormats as well.

What's it going to take to put you into a new Senator and Representative today?

:P

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:11 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!






Jew Specter will make a fine Demorat for the N.W.O.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.P.E.C.T.E.R.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:39 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The fact that some Dems, maybe like you, don't like Reid & Pelosi is quite amusing to me.


You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little f****d up maybe, but they're amusing how, I mean amusing like they're clowns, they amuse you? They make you laugh, They're here to f****n' amuse you? What do you mean amusing, amusing how? How are they amusing?

The laughing Chrisisall


Get the fuck outta here Tommy.



NOW...


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Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The way term limits work here, once you get termed out of the city council you move on to the state legislature or to county supervisor, and if you've gotten termed out of everything else you move on to Congress. Or sometimes vice versa.

Not sure how much "reality" that enforces, altho i DO have to say that in our lab we rotate people every three-four years.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


If PA voters have a clue, I will be laughing so hard when PA finally gets a conservative GOP candidate and Spectre gets whipped in the primary (as a Dem) - if he even bothers to run.

Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
The've got so much dirt on Magic Bullet Man that he might as well be one of his own MKULTRA sexslaves.





Nice pic, but no mention of the pic of Charles Harrelson (assasin and CIA employee/contractor) as one of the three tramps with new shoes captured in the rail yard.

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