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North Korea hacks America!

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 2:58 AM

SKYWALKEN


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A widespread computer attack that began July 4 knocked out the Web sites of the Treasury Department, the Secret Service and other U.S. government agencies, according to officials inside and outside the government.

Sites in South Korea were also affected, and South Korean intelligence officials believe the attack was carried out by North Korean or pro-Pyongyang forces.

The U.S. government Web sites, which also included those of the Federal Trade Commission and the Transportation Department, were all down at varying points over the holiday weekend and into this week. South Korean Internet sites began experiencing problems Tuesday.

U.S. officials refused to publicly discuss details of the cyber attack.

But South Korea's National Intelligence Service, the nation's main spy agency, told a group of South Korean lawmakers Wednesday it believes that North Korea or North Korean sympathizers in the South "were behind" the attacks, according to an aide to one of the lawmakers briefed on the information.

The aide spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the information. The National Intelligence Service - South Korea's main spy agency - said it couldn't immediately confirm the report, but it said it was cooperating with American authorities.

Amy Kudwa, spokeswoman for the Homeland Security Department, said the agency's U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team issued a notice to federal departments and other partner organizations about the problems and "advised them of steps to take to help mitigate against such attacks."

Others familiar with the U.S. outage, which is called a denial of service attack, said the fact that the government Web sites were still being affected three days after it began signaled an unusually lengthy and sophisticated attack.

Two government officials acknowledged that the Treasury and Secret Service sites were brought down, and said the agencies were working with their Internet service provider to resolve the problem. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the matter.

Ben Rushlo, director of Internet technologies at Keynote Systems, said problems with the Transportation Department site began Saturday and continued until Monday, while the FTC site was down Sunday and Monday.

Keynote Systems is a mobile and Web site monitoring company based in San Mateo, Calif. The company publishes data detailing outages on Web sites, including 40 government sites it watches.

According to Rushlo, the Transportation Web site was "100 percent down" for two days, so that no Internet users could get through to it. The FTC site, meanwhile, started to come back online late Sunday, but even on Tuesday Internet users still were unable to get to the site 70 percent of the time.

Web sites of major South Korean government agencies, including the presidential Blue House and the Defense Ministry, and some banking sites were paralyzed Tuesday. An initial investigation found that many personal computers were infected with a virus ordering them to visit major official Web sites in South Korea and the U.S. at the same time, Korea Information Security Agency official Shin Hwa-su said.



http://apnews.myway.com//article/20090708/D99A8SB80.html

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 4:15 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Of course, the article doesn't mention that ANY decent hacker could launch the same attack, and any hacker worth his salt would MAKE SURE IT LOOKED LIKE THE NORTH KOREANS WERE BEHIND IT. After all, what better way to cover your tracks than to point the electronic "finger" at someone who's already a pariah on the global scene?

My bet is that if this is ever truly tracked back, it will be China, Russia, or the U.S. intelligence services behind it.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.



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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 4:15 AM

BYTEMITE


...They hit the ocean with missiles, and their "attack" on America constitutes a teenage prank. Assuming, like Kwicko said, that NK is, in fact, behind it... Which seems doubtful.

*Nods* I tell you, I've never been afraid of ol' static electricity hair, and I find myself wondering how it can be possible to be LESS afraid now.

Actually, I find myself kind of wishing Chia Pets came in Kim Jong-Il form.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:16 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Chia Dear Leader!

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:19 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


What about intent?
If I intended to kill you but was too incompetent to do so would I get off with a free pass as well?
It's kinda like Hezbollah lobbing missiles into Israel. Because they are crappy projectiles that only hit their mark a small percentage of the time. The Israelies should just shrug their shoulders and say "Oh those crazy Hezbollah's".

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:35 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


What about intent, what?

What is it you're trying to say? That li'l Kim was actually TRYING to hit Hawaii with his missiles? There's no evidence to support your claims, but keep on with the crazy talkin'...

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:38 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Tell me, should other nations take us at our "intent" every time we launch a missile test out toward the Pacific? After all, we ARE launching in the general direction of China, Russia, North Korea, Vietnam, or what have you. Should they attack us for what they perceive as our "intent"?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.



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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:55 AM

BYTEMITE


I admit some disgust over how he treats his people, but him as a threat? For me to be frightened of?

Kim Jong Hezbollah, to use your example, has only managed to lob missiles into uninhabited desert. I question whether he will ever actually try to hit anyone, when the whole world is watching and waiting for his ass to take one real step out of line.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 7:13 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



World Police propaganda

Another self-inflicted wound. Pentagon employs 25,000 in Cyber Command. Operation Northwoods 2.0.



A Hooters waitress told she wrote virus code for USAF Intelligence in Germany, not to stop hackers but to be a hacker.

Hooters restaurants are now in 35 nations and has its own international airline. Does that make Hooters CIA laundering dope money?



Hooters and hookers have always been used by intelligence agencies.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 7:34 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:






"Waitress, I'll have the milk! It does a body good!"

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.



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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:07 AM

BYTEMITE


You know, I had an argument with my folks on the fourth about whether it's fair to automatically assume that any woman confident in their sexuality and working for hooters/as a swimsuit pin-up/etc. is just a brainless twit.

That's their job, not who they are. Just because some people are repressed and old-fashioned doesn't excuse harrassing or belittling those women.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:09 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Who's harrassing or belittling?

If you can get men to pay you to NOT have sex with them, just to tease them a bit by showing a touch of T&A, who am I to complain?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.



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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:22 AM

BYTEMITE


No, no, I wasn't condemning what you were saying, I was commenting on PN and how he was saying that some Hooters girls have been hired on as hackers for intelligence agencies.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:26 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Ah. Cool then.

Although it *would* be pretty damned savvy to do what PN claims is being done. After all, who ever suspects the Hooters gal of being a top-notch spy? Most people assume they're "working their way through college", right? What better cover could they ask for? As a plus, many would be very quick to let down their guard around the Hooters waitress, and just keep carrying on whatever sensitive conversation they were in the middle of.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Way too smart for NK. Prolly some Russian or Albanian mafia. AFAIK nobody has ever fully decrypted the Conficker virus. Maybe this DOS was the payload?


www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227121.500-the-inside-story-of-the-co
nficker-worm.html?full=true

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Hey, the North Koreans DID promise us some fireworks on the Fourth, eh?

Still, I'm not convinced it was them. Seems a trifle TOO convenient, doesn't it?

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Wednesday, August 5, 2009 4:59 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Wednesday, July 12, 2023 11:27 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


North Korea fires intercontinental ballistic missile after threatening US

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66172284

The long-range missile has been in flight for more than an hour and is expected to land short of Japanese waters

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