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Friday, October 9, 2009 7:39 AM

RUE

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"So did I.
I ordered a nice katana from Japan. Cost me a pretty penny too.
I'M engaging in diplomacy. Where's my award.
Btw, Im still waiting for my trophy after I tied my shoes this morning."

Are you TRYING to be really, really stoooopid ?

Are you the president ? Do you set the international policy for THE major military power in the world ? Is your policy key to global international affairs ?

If you can't see how completely asinine your argument is, you're completely OTL.

Try thinking with your brain instead of your hate, OK ?

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Friday, October 9, 2009 7:40 AM

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This guy has DONE NOTHING!

But because he sits there, and proclaims "hope" we should all just bend our knee?

No. Not in this life, ever.

Obama read a lot of comic books, Ill give him that. He knows the right strings to pluck.

But not for this boy.

The Nobel committee just lost all credibility to me.

Which hurts more than I can express.


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Friday, October 9, 2009 7:43 AM

RUE

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ARAFAT won the Peace Prize for krissakes !

THAT didn't take the shine off for you ?


STOP THINKING WITH YOUR HATE, OK ? NOT EVERYTHING IS THE FAULT OF THE BLACK MAN.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 7:45 AM

WULFENSTAR

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ITS NOT ABOUT HIM BEING BLACK!

(Except THATS part of the reason they gave him the "prize")

ITS ABOUT THAT HE DID NOTHING TO EARN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Friday, October 9, 2009 7:49 AM

ASARIAN


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"Getting one of THE major global forces engaging in diplomacy again is a major step up from the pit Bush dug for us. It is a game-changer for the world."

He DID do this.


Okay, so he replaced Bush; which was a step up for the world, no argument there. So he says "Let's talk," instead of "We don't talk with them." And I greatly appreciate the change that has come to America. But, at the end of the day, "Let's talk" is really nothing more than an expression of good intent. As Niska said, people must know what happens after that. Will it actually lead to peace? Will Iraq become a safer place because of it? Will the Palestinians and the Israeli know peace in our time as a result of it? My point being: only in retrospect, like 20 years from now, will we be able to say whether "Let's talk" was really the beginning of a new era of peace, or whether he meant well, but could eventually not accomplish much.

I dunno; giving people awards on what they might accomplish; or based in support of what you hope they'll achieve, it's a slippery slope. I still feel more comfortable handing out such awards for things people actually already did.


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Friday, October 9, 2009 7:49 AM

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The "Nobel Peace Prize" means NOTHING to me anymore.

NOTHING.

Its NOTHING to be proud of.

Not anymore.


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Friday, October 9, 2009 7:49 AM

RUE

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But you're blaming the entire degradation of the 'quality' of the prize on Obama - and not on Arafat or any other arguably far worse choice. And WHY are you focusing on Obama ? Hmmmmm ? Is it b/c it galls you to see one of 'them' doing so well ?

I suspect if it had gone to ANYONE else who was undeserving, you wouldn't care one whit.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 7:51 AM

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Like I said Rue....

Give me the fucking prize, cause I tied my shoes this morning.

Do THAT, and you will understand.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:01 AM

RUE

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Dodging the point with some meaningless comment about your shoes ? No outrage over Arafat's prize ? Or Sadat's ? Or de Klerk's ? Or Annan's ?

I thought not.

You have one standard for Obama, the black male American, and another for everyone else, not black male Americans. It's OK for them, but not Obama.

I think we get it.


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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:16 AM

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Hello Rue,

You make a good point, which is that giving the prize to Obama is on par with giving the prize to Arafat.

Both prizes were awarded on what people hoped might happen, and neither on what was actually accomplished.

And that's still nothing to be proud of.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:18 AM

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So, like Wulf, I think we should all submit our names for next year's prize. It seems like all we have to do is go around being nice to people and saying sorry to folks of different nationalities and religions than ourselves for whatever wrongs they perceive America has done to their people.



Nope, Ripper, it's not even that. You don't have to DO any of that stuff - you just have to say you WANT TO DO that stuff.

Sorry, but on this one, I'm in complete agreement with most of the "righties" around here. Obama MIGHT do great things, but his biggest "accomplishment" so far is not being Dubya. And while that's an admirable goal, it really tarnishes the Peace Prize to give it to someone just because you like them or think they're pretty.

For fuck's sake, Bill Clinton did more this year for world peace than Obama has done. Slick Willie actually got a couple "journalists" freed from a North Korean prison. Could Big O do that?

To me, this denigrates the prize, AND it both gives armaments to his detractors AND delegitimizes his presidency, because it really DOES make it appear that the world just worships at his feet and falls all over themselves genuflecting to him.

Besides, you don't give out Nobel prizes for what someone MIGHT do. If you do, then I've got an idea for faster-than-light travel that will actually make gold appear in your pockets upon your arrival. Can I have my physics prize, please? Understand that my research isn't complete, and it might never work out, but that million bucks could go a long way towards helping me out!

Oh, and I'm going to write about it all in a fantastically literate masterpiece, so can I go ahead and just collect that Nobel prize for literature, too? And since everyone will be rich in the future (which will be in the past, since we're going there faster than light. Duh.), I've solved the economic crisis. So there's ANOTHER prize for me, right?



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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:39 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And I think it sets a pretty low bar to give out the Peace Prize for "not being Dubya Bush". I mean, really - is that all it takes these days?


Yes, I haven't even gotten to the end of this thread yet, and that's EXACTLY what I was gonna say.

They gave it to him for the sole and simple reason that he ain't Bush.

Which, while no particular credit to Obama, and something of a backhanded insult...

It's a pretty fucking damning condemnation of Shrub, isn't it now - and IMHO, utterly deserved.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:43 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I wish he would decline the award, and say, "I'm sorry. I haven't earned this yet. I will strive to be deserving of it someday. Until then, please give it to someone better suited."

THAT would be a start to greatness.


Amen, Anthony - and that ain't a word I use often.

Oh, and Wulfie ?
Ain't about race, it's about delivering a vicious backhanded insult to America for ever tolerating Bush in the first place.

I don't like the taste of a slap like that any more than you do, but honor demands I admit we had it coming.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:45 AM

RUE

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Personally, I think the outrage is misplaced. There are far worse recipients of the prize. And in the grand scheme of things, who gets the prize is not going to change the world either way. I would prefer outrage directed at starvation, war, brutal treatment of humans - especially women and young girls who are so frequently victimized by religion and custom - anything but outrage over this. What is this, really ? To me this whole thing is a non-issue, completely unsubstantive. MEH - it is nothing.

So while I can say that I am pleased that a US president got the prize, I can also say that this particular item is way down on my list of importance.

But as a target for comment, it certainly has been illuminating to see where people stand and what arguments they bring to the table.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:47 AM

RIPWASH


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Originally posted by Kwicko:

To me, this denigrates the prize, AND it both gives armaments to his detractors AND delegitimizes his presidency, because it really DOES make it appear that the world just worships at his feet and falls all over themselves genuflecting to him.



I was honestly going to leave that part out, but as you brought it up first, I'll follow your lead. I'm right there with ya, Kwicko. For those on the left, like yourself, who loathe the argument from the right that Obama is "The One" or "The Messiah" this is nothing but bad news, because it all but proves to those on the right that they were, more or less, correct about how "lefties" view Obama. Not saying all on the Nobel Prize committee are left-leaning liberals because I don't know that for a fact. But to give out a prize based on the "hope" that he will do good things is laughable.

And giving the prize to Arafat was just as laughable . . . as it was when given to Al Gore.

And Rue... Stop berating Wulf. He has said several times it was not because of the color of Obama's skin that he's upset about this. It's the man's accomplisments (or lack thereof) that has him riled. I chose to take him at his word on this.

Wulf... sometimes ya just gotta roll with Rue's ineffectual punches. I got a bit of a laugh with some of your statements but she seems to have lost her sense of humor a long time ago. If she doesn't get the humor she'll call you all sorts of names and question your intellect.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
I agree he hasn't earned it - but I looooove the response it's provoked in the right. I can't wait to watch Hannity and Beck tonight.




It fer shure brought 'em all out of the woodwork, didn't it? Let's poke a hornet's nest with a big stick...
Last I heard, and I don't keep good track, the Prize Committee was a bunch of private citizens ( in Sweden, I think. Or Norway?) dispensing private money. They're entitled to their opinion, and their own reasons. They have no God-given insight or real world power, they just dispense a medal and some cash. Anybody who disagrees can just ignore them or give their own prize. Le'see, The Dick Cheney Award For Peace and Profit? The Limbaugh Prize for Peaceful, Rational Discourse? The Bush Scholarship for Diplomacy? Edited- I fergot-- the George Wallace/Strom Thermond Loving Cup for Racial Relationships...

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Friday, October 9, 2009 8:51 AM

RUE

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" He has said several times it was not because of the color of Obama's skin that he's upset about this."

And then he has ALSO said that liberals will cream their jeans just b/c Obama is black. Surely race features into HIS thoughts somewhere, dontcha' think ? Because, given that you are a liberal, he is surely projecting this racial fetish onto you.

BTW - what I got irritated with was his equation of him getting up in the morning and tying his shoes with Obama's POLICIES AS LEADER OF THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD.

I HOPE you see the 100% idiocy of his argument as the strongest objection he could possibly come up with to account for his sense of outrage. 'Cause what he is arguing is that, after all, one is just like the other.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:05 AM

FREMDFIRMA



I dunno if it can be given Posthumously, but Meena sure deserved it, and RAWA certainly does.
http://www.rawa.org/index.php

Not that most Americans are even aware of their existence - since they're quite pissed at us and our puppets, and their lot hasn't improved as a result.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:05 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

They gave it to him for the sole and simple reason that he ain't Bush.

Which, while no particular credit to Obama, and something of a backhanded insult...

It's a pretty fucking damning condemnation of Shrub, isn't it now

HOLY CRAP! I didn't THINK of it that way!!! It's one big BUSH DIS!!!!

Count me 100% FOR it now!!!


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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:07 AM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Personally, I think the outrage is misplaced. There are far worse recipients of the prize. And in the grand scheme of things, who gets the prize is not going to change the world either way. I would prefer outrage directed at starvation, war, brutal treatment of humans - especially women and young girls who are so frequently victimized by religion and custom - anything but outrage over this. What is this, really ? To me this whole thing is a non-issue, completely unsubstantive. MEH - it is nothing.

So while I can say that I am pleased that a US president got the prize, I can also say that this particular item is way down on my list of importance.

But as a target for comment, it certainly has been illuminating to see where people stand and what arguments they bring to the table.

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Hello Rue,

I don't think anyone has placed this on par with world hunger, the plight of abused women and children, or general global sins against humanity.

There are several recipients of the award that make me shake my head. And while I will not declare this most recent inappropriate award to be the most heinous of inappropriate awards, I will neither declare it to be 'okay' since there have been worse offenses.

I do agree it is illuminating to see what arguments people bring to the table. I haven't heard anything that justifies the award. It is my opinion that most sensible people should see this event as unfortunate. It brings no glory, no honor, no attention to critical world events. It holds up no accomplished principle or practice. Instead of highlighting the struggles and travails of folks who agonize through the trenches of world peace and goodwill to their fellow man... instead of inviting the world eye to look towards the abused and valiant women's rights struggle in the east...

We have awarded someone for not being someone else.

I take no pride in this.

--Anthony


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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:12 AM

RUE

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"I haven't heard anything that justifies the award."

Whether it deserves the award is up for debate - but I think Obama's policy to return the STRONGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD back to diplomacy is, as I said earlier, a global game changer. An irreplaceable step back towards sanity.

He could have NOT done that.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:16 AM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"I haven't heard anything that justifies the award."

Whether it deserves the award is up for debate - but I think Obama's policy to return the STRONGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD back to diplomacy is, as I said earlier, a game changer. An irreplaceable step back towards sanity.

He could have not done that.

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Hello,

I have seen no evidence that the strongest military in the world is doing anything much different today than it did a year ago.

--Anthony



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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:22 AM

RUE

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Negotiating with N Korea. NOT sabre-rattling towards Iran, and, in fact, indicating that the US will engage in high level talks AND stand with the world community to develop a common response. Closing down Gitmo (in the last few days more former prisoners have been released to countries willing to take them, but it takes time to negotiate all the details of all the people there.) Shutting down SDI, which was a major source of tension with Russia. Willing to discuss global warming.

The list is longer, this is just off the top of my head of items I have seen in the last week.

But in general terms, willing to bring the US to the table on items of global importance, as a partner with many, not a go-it-alone cowboy.
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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:22 AM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
" He has said several times it was not because of the color of Obama's skin that he's upset about this."

And then he has ALSO said that liberals will cream their jeans just b/c Obama is black. Surely race features into HIS thoughts somewhere, dontcha' think ? Because, given that you are a liberal, he is surely projecting this racial fetish onto you.



What I saw was that he then said the same thing would apply to Hillary Clinton simply because she is a woman. But his main point throughout all of this was that Obama has done very little to earn this award. Period. I take Wulf for what he is - a very passionate person who says what's on his mind, hang the consequences. That sometimes means flying off the handle with poor choices in words or sentence structure, but I'm not going to condemn him for that.

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BTW - what I got irritated with was his equation of him getting up in the morning and tying his shoes with Obama's POLICIES AS LEADER OF THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD.

I HOPE you see the 100% idiocy of his argument as the strongest objection he could possibly come up with to account for his sense of outrage. 'Cause what he is arguing is that, after all, one is just like the other.



And this is why I say you've lost your sense of humor. Obama's two week presidency at the time of his nomination was equal, in Wulf's mind, to the accomplishment of someone tying their own shoelaces. I got a chuckle out of that. You didn't and that's okay, but it's just as okay to tell someone, "If that's your idea of a joke, I don't get it." I just thought your reaction was a little mean-spirited, that's all.



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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:25 AM

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My point was that this guy didn't do anything to deserve the award.

Going by that assumption, which is accurate, that since he can get the award for doing nothing (other than being born) I should get the Nobel Peace prize for tying my shoes.

At least I did something.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:27 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Whoops... I just brushed my teeth.

I did something else!

Will someone here please call the Nobel committee...?

I think Ill need another award.

Make sure to have them make the check out to "Cash".

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:27 AM

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Al Gore got the Nobel Peace Prize, Jimmy Carter got the Nobel Peace Prize, I should think that Bill Clinton must be feeling a bit left out.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:27 AM

RUE

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Obama was nominated early, but selected later - after significant time had elapsed. There was plenty of time to drop him from the list. He COULD have NOT made the cut, after all.

Whether or not he got the prize is a non-issue to me. It's people's bogus arguments I find irritating. In the interim, Obama has done FAR more to foster global peace than Wulf ever has, or ever will. See my list above.

The BIG DIFFERENCE - OBAMA HAS CHANGED THE POLICY OF THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL MILITARY.

Hopefully, you can see that, even if Wulf can't.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:29 AM

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Dammit, I just scratched my balls.

Something else I did to earn the award.

Im going to need a truck to carry all the money and medals I just "EARNED" today.


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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:30 AM

RUE

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Give it up Wulf. You're at the point of looking like a buffoon.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:32 AM

WULFENSTAR

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OH WAIT, I just responded to a post!

Give me a trophy AND a medal!


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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:32 AM

WULFENSTAR

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OH WAIT, I just responded to a post!

Give me a trophy AND a medal!


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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:33 AM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Obama was nominated early, but selected later - after significant time had elapsed. There was plenty of time to drop him from the list. He COULD have NOT made the cut, after all.

Whether or not he got the prize is a non-issue to me. It's people's bogus arguments I find irritating.

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But that begs the question, Rue - WHY was he nominated? What had he done up to that point in time (the deadline) to warrant even a nomination? His accomplishments 2 weeks into his presidency? The way he ran his campaign? Or simply because he talked a good game up to that point and so they went "all in", banking on the hopes that he will do what he said he would do in a peaceful and world-changing fashion?

I thought a person was nominated for PAST accomplishments, not for what he says (and many hope) he might do in the future.

That's what irks me about the whole thing.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:34 AM

RIPWASH


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
OH WAIT, I just responded to a post!

Give me a trophy AND a medal!




Here I am standing up for you and you're driving your point into the ground and beating the dead horse with it. Don't make me regret it.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:35 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by RIPWash:
I just thought your reaction was a little mean-spirited, that's all.


Hey Rip, Rue is just like that with Wulf, it's like oil & water.


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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:35 AM

RUE

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Since I post-edited, I'll repost here:
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Obama was nominated early, but selected later - after significant time had elapsed. There was plenty of time to drop him from the list. He COULD have NOT made the cut, after all.

Whether or not he got the prize is a non-issue to me. It's people's bogus arguments I find irritating. In the interim, Obama has done FAR more to foster global peace than Wulf ever has, or ever will. See my list above.

The BIG DIFFERENCE - OBAMA HAS CHANGED THE POLICY OF THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL MILITARY.

Hopefully, you can see that, even if Wulf can't.

I suspect Obama was nominated the same way promising football players are drafted - subject to later review.

Since I don't know the requirements for nomination, or the process of selection, and frankly, it's too unimportant for me to bother to look up, I'll leave it to you to decide whether or not it was kosher.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:36 AM

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Trying to resist the urge to tie my shoes again...

Don't want to make the less fortunate feel downtrodden or anything.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:43 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Since I post-edited, I'll repost here



Yeah. Kinda hard to respond to ya when you keep going back and changing your original post.

So YOU are now equating the Nobel Peace Prize to the NFL draft? Really? Even in the draft, the best, most talented players with proven success in their college carreers are chosen first. The rest are way down on the list of choices. And those that only played quarterback for two games are probably not even included in the draft. No matter how good some folks think he might become. Heck, in the MLB most draftees are even thrown out to "farm" teams until they DO prove themselves worthy for the Big Show. They're not actually "awarded" with a slot in the major leagues until they've proven themselves worthy.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:50 AM

RUE

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"Yeah. Kinda hard to respond to ya when you keep going back and changing your original post."

Sigh. I added to, but did not delete or change my essential point. But since I DID change it, I reposted it, as a courtesy, to you. And YOU are now in the pissy 'humorless' category b/c --- why ?
How about this: next time, I'll just skip the courtesy, OK ? Will that make you feel better ?



"So YOU are now equating the Nobel Peace Prize to the NFL draft?"

I dunno. It might be. It might not. You tell me. As I posted above "... I'll leave it to you to decide whether or not it was kosher."

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:50 AM

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Rue has a problem with men.

Duh.

Crap... I picked up my pen I just dropped...

I need ANOTHER Nobel Peace prize..

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
But since I DID change it, I reposted it, as a courtesy to you. And YOU are now in the pissy 'humorless' category b/c --- why ?
How about this: next time, I'll just skip the courtesy, OK ? Will that make you feel better



All I'll say is that I contemplated putting some sort of smiley in there, but you and I have issues in the past with you not paying attention to them and getting "pissy" with me regardless. So, I didn't bother. Keep being courteous, please. Just let me know whether you'll accept the smiley when you see it as being in jest. That's all.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:58 AM

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Darn it...

I have posted several times.

Im going to have to wallpaper my house with all the Nobel Prizes I will soon be receiving.

I mean, cause you know...

They really HAVE meaning after this, right?

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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:58 AM

RIPWASH


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Darn it...

I have posted several times.

Im going to have to wallpaper my house with all the Nobel Prizes I will soon be receiving.

I mean, cause you know...

They really HAVE meaning after this, right?



Sorry, Wulf, but you officially made me regret my decision to "stand up" for you. Won't happen again.

Give it a rest.


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Friday, October 9, 2009 10:00 AM

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Sorry. Have to keep pushing the point.

Some folks (Rue) don't get it.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 10:00 AM

RUE

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"Just let me know whether you'll accept the smiley when you see it as being in jest."

I have to unequivocally say - mostly, yes, I will.

There IS a category that doesn't pass the sniff test - for example "You're a c**t ! "

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Friday, October 9, 2009 10:02 AM

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Hello,

Wulf's tired, stale, and increasingly odious humor aside, this is not a competition between Wulf and Obama. It was a competition between Obama and more accomplished contributors to peace and the humane condition. Obama has not won that contest. But he won the award for it.

People ought to boo when the referee or judges of a match make a bad call.

To paraphrase the argument FOR the award, "Declaring an intention to behave in the way that he ought to behave" is not an accomplishment.

--Anthony


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Friday, October 9, 2009 10:02 AM

RUE

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"Rue has a problem with men."

That is SO off track it made me laugh. I like REAL men. MMMMmmmmmm ...

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Friday, October 9, 2009 10:04 AM

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Much appreciated, Rue.

*EDIT* I mean for the courtesy! Don't want folk to get the wrong impression that I thought you think of me as a real man. 'Cause . . . you know . . . you probably don't think I am.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 10:06 AM

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Odious humor?

I have not devolved it. Just making a point.

Dammit... I went and took another breath...

someone give me a prize.


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Friday, October 9, 2009 10:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think they gave to to that menace and war-mongerer, Henry Kissinger*, because he sounds Jewish. And then they gave to it Obama because he wasn't Kissinger.

* 'Cause, shit man, if they can give the "peace" prize somebody who was responsible for 500,000+ deaths, then I guess just NOT being Kissinger is worthy of a prize!

Here Wulf... You get one too, so don't feel left out!

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