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See 'Milk' To Learn Something

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Friday, October 30, 2009 2:13 AM

RIVERLOVE


Not a huge fan of Sean Penn and his politics, but I've always admired his film work in things like Carlito's Way, Mystic River, and many others going back to Fast Times. "Milk" is simply an amazing film! It methodically and intelligently strips away any and all arguments that anyone could have against Gay people's rights. You can only come away from the film believing that there is really nothing rational to even debate about. It is a powerful film that will move even the staunchest opponents to reconsider & cast aside their belief system. If you're of the anti-gay variety, I challenge you to see the movie and not be changed.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 2:43 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
It methodically and intelligently strips away any and all arguments that anyone could have against Gay people's rights. You can only come away from the film believing that there is really nothing rational to even debate about.


Saw movie. Turns out they are still gay. They don't need special gay rights since they have mostly the same rights straight people have. I give the fella (Milk, not Penn) all sorts of credit for being gay when that wasn't popular in California. But it was never a rights issue, just attitude and cultural bias.

Nobody ever asked for a special law for Irish rights or Italian rights. Race and gender bias needed legislative and judicial correction and because they were not seeking additional right not available to other classes.

For example, they are as free to get married as anybody else, and they are just as barred from same sex marriages as anybody else. They do not deserve laws that give them more rights then other citizens have.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 3:31 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:


Nobody ever asked for a special law for Irish rights or Italian rights.



Both groups that were specifically discriminated AGAINST, about a century ago. There were plenty of specific PRACTICES aimed against them. There SHOULD HAVE BEEN laws guaranteeing them the EQUAL treatment they were due, and prosecuting those who denied them...

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Friday, October 30, 2009 3:40 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
It methodically and intelligently strips away any and all arguments that anyone could have against Gay people's rights. You can only come away from the film believing that there is really nothing rational to even debate about.


Saw movie. Turns out they are still gay. They don't need special gay rights since they have mostly the same rights straight people have. I give the fella (Milk, not Penn) all sorts of credit for being gay when that wasn't popular in California. But it was never a rights issue, just attitude and cultural bias.

Nobody ever asked for a special law for Irish rights or Italian rights. Race and gender bias needed legislative and judicial correction and because they were not seeking additional right not available to other classes.

For example, they are as free to get married as anybody else, and they are just as barred from same sex marriages as anybody else. They do not deserve laws that give them more rights then other citizens have.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.


I don't know how you can say that it wasn't a "rights" issue back in the 70"s. Their rights include the rights to live openly as gay people, and to celebrate their lifestyle, and to have laws enacted to protect those rights. Harvey Milk fought against huge anti-gay political machines and won. He fought against the religious establishment that had Anita Bryant on point, and he won again. It's all about civil rights, same as Italian, Black, Irish, Jew, Muslim, whatever.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 5:37 AM

RUE

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"... since they have mostly the same rights straight people have ..."

The exceptions are the problem.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 6:09 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:

For example, they are as free to get married as anybody else, and they are just as barred from same sex marriages as anybody else. They do not deserve laws that give them more rights then other citizens have.



But theoretically, if gay marriage were made legal, straight people would be just as free to marry the same-sex partner of their choice, right?

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Friday, October 30, 2009 6:28 AM

RIVERLOVE


I didn't post this topic to start any fights amongst the group. I suppose most people here already were on the right side of the gay rights issues, and didn't need to see a movie to form an opinion, but honestly I wasn't so much. I posted this subject because the movie did change me. I hope it changes many others.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 6:47 AM

RUE

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Not to drag this too far off topic - but laws which prevent gays from marrying each other have been found to be exactly legally equivalent to anti-miscegentation laws - which are unconstitutional. They prevent one from marrying the PERSON OF THEIR CHOICE.

You argument 'Hero' is like saying slavery is OK as long as slaves are free to own other slaves. And that is not a valid position.

Absent that fundamental HUMAN right to marry the PERSON of your choice - which is protected in the constitution - gays do NOT have the 'same' rights as others.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 7:17 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
since they have mostly the same rights straight people have.



Well heck, as long as they have "mostly" the same rights as other people, who cares? Mostly is good enough, since they're not really people, right?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 30, 2009 8:04 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Nobody ever asked for a special law for Irish rights or Italian rights. Race and gender bias needed legislative and judicial correction and because they were not seeking additional right not available to other classes.



But you ARE advocating "a special law" for homosexuals - one that says that they aren't allowed to marry EACH OTHER, or the person of their choosing, the one they're in love with.

Can you show me where there was ever a law stating that Irish or Italians weren't allowed to marry other Irish or Italians?

How would you react to a law that said whites couldn't marry other whites?

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Friday, October 30, 2009 8:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:

Not a huge fan of Sean Penn and his politics, but I've always admired his film work in things like Carlito's Way, Mystic River, and many others going back to Fast Times. "Milk" is simply an amazing film! It methodically and intelligently strips away any and all arguments that anyone could have against Gay people's rights. You can only come away from the film believing that there is really nothing rational to even debate about. It is a powerful film that will move even the staunchest opponents to reconsider & cast aside their belief system. If you're of the anti-gay variety, I challenge you to see the movie and not be changed.



RL: I'm glad you saw it, and I'm glad you were moved by it. I think my eye-opening, mind-opening when it comes to gays came when I watched Armistead Maupin's "Tales of the City" many years ago, and realized that people are just people.

I thought "Milk" was beautifully done, and heartbreaking. You should probably track down the HBO movie version of Randy Shiilts's "And the Band Played On", too - it's amazingly well done, and also heartbreaking and uplifting.

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Friday, October 30, 2009 8:24 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
I think my eye-opening, mind-opening when it comes to gays came when I watched Armistead Maupin's "Tales of the City" many years ago, and realized that people are just people.



My "eye opening" was of the opposite sort. My Mother's best friend when I was little was a gay man. It wasn't until I was 10 or so that I even grasped that there were people who had a problem with gays. To me, they were just people - never occurred to me to dislike them over who they chose to love. It was quite an eye opening moment when I realized there were such hateful people out there, to discriminate over something so pathetically foolish.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 30, 2009 10:08 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
The exceptions are the problem.


I disagree. The most obvious exception, since marriage is not one, is service in the military.

I don't believe in using the military as an experiment in social engineering. Especially since the problem, like most so-called gay rights issues, is self correcting.

H



"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 10:12 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Their rights include the rights to live openly as gay people, and to celebrate their lifestyle, and to have laws enacted to protect those rights.


You don't need laws to protect those rights. The Consitution already protected those rights. All they really needed was the removal (as unconstitutional) laws restricting those rights.

Sodomy is a good example. The Constitution contains a right to privacy that would protect consensual gay sex between adults. So you don't need a law protecting gay sex, you need to get rid of the law, through Constitutional challenge, that criminalizes the conduct.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 10:22 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Well heck, as long as they have "mostly" the same rights as other people, who cares? Mostly is good enough, since they're not really people, right?


We all have mostly the same rights depending on where we live and the circumstances.

Women can use the ladies room (with its fancy couch) but if men use it we'll get arrested (or hit with a purse). Men can walk around topless on the beach, woman can't (in most places despite what I believe is a Constitutional Right we all need to get behind). Men play football professionally. Women can win the Miss America pagent. People live in different states, with minor variations to their respective state constitutions.

Nazis and Gay folks can have a parade (with a permit). Al Queda operatives can't (with or without a permit).

Kids can't go outside after curfew. You can yell fire in many place, but not in theaters.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 10:38 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Well heck, as long as they have "mostly" the same rights as other people, who cares? Mostly is good enough, since they're not really people, right?


We all have mostly the same rights depending on where we live and the circumstances.

Women can use the ladies room (with its fancy couch) but if men use it we'll get arrested (or hit with a purse). Men can walk around topless on the beach, woman can't (in most places despite what I believe is a Constitutional Right we all need to get behind). Men play football professionally. Women can win the Miss America pagent. People live in different states, with minor variations to their respective state constitutions.

Nazis and Gay folks can have a parade (with a permit). Al Queda operatives can't (with or without a permit).

Kids can't go outside after curfew. You can yell fire in many place, but not in theaters.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.



Gee, "Hero" (to whom, I'd have to wonder), can you reach a little harder to justify being a bigot?

You're a capable idealogue, I bet you can.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 30, 2009 11:21 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
The exceptions are the problem.


I disagree. The most obvious exception, since marriage is not one, is service in the military.

I don't believe in using the military as an experiment in social engineering.



So you disagree with Truman desegregating the military, then?

And you think it's okay to kick gays OUT of the military when they really want to serve their country?

How very... patriotic of you. [/snark]

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Friday, October 30, 2009 11:22 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Their rights include the rights to live openly as gay people, and to celebrate their lifestyle, and to have laws enacted to protect those rights.


You don't need laws to protect those rights. The Consitution already protected those rights. All they really needed was the removal (as unconstitutional) laws restricting those rights.

Sodomy is a good example. The Constitution contains a right to privacy that would protect consensual gay sex between adults. So you don't need a law protecting gay sex, you need to get rid of the law, through Constitutional challenge, that criminalizes the conduct.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.



Just as we can get rid of "Don't-ask-don't-tell" and "Defense of Marriage Act" and the various state laws that outlaw gay marriage, all through Constitutional challenges. Right?



Mike

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Friday, October 30, 2009 1:41 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Bullet in Milk = good riddance! Death to the New World Odor!

Sodomy is a mental illness, and is protected under the Americans With Disabilities Act, same as schizophrenia.

Lock em up in the loonybin, and they can enjoy all the equal rights as other loonatics.

There's a legitimate public health reason it's against The Law to be a sodomite. E.coli KILLS when you eat it.

Kosher felon Sean Penn married Mafiosi Madonna (Louise Verona Ciccone), a homosexual Kaballistic Illuminati mind-controlled sexslave in snuff films.
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75079
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/IlluminatiFormulaindex.shtml

Madonna's snuff video A CERTAIN SACRIFICE at www.gynophagia.org (cannibalism)

NSFW: Watch Madonna's (snuff?) porn video A CERTAIN SACRIFICE
Lacluster acting, until the human sacrifice at the end...
http://xoteria.com/GATEWAY_ACS.html

If you want a good story about "gays", show one OVERCOMING their physical/mental disability and raising a hetero family. Nobody wants to hear "success stories" about cripples who wallow in their disease and refusing to overcome it. Hyping homosex denies medical cures to sick sheeple.


Milk producers at homosexual nudist compound and presidential retreat for human sacrifice
www.google.com/search?gbv=2&hl=en&q=bohemian+grove

Snuff Kiddie Porn and Cannibalism at Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6497462494231069386
http://one.revver.com/watch/248515

Boners at Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113
http://garageband.com/artist/countercoup

Quote:

"You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They were layin' the nuns; that's been goin' on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That's what's happened to Britain. It happened earlier to France. Let's look at the strong societies. The Russians. Goddamn, they root 'em out. They don't let 'em around at all. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time--it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco." [because they hold each other's penises while they stand naked and urinate on the giant redwood trees]
-President Richard Nixon, White House audiotapes
www.prisonplanet.com/032604nixontape.html


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Friday, October 30, 2009 1:57 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Don't be sucked in by this apparently anti-gay statement from Piratenews. Once again, he is using Hyperbole as a kind of joke. In all likelihood he's a gay sodomite himself, and is winking at us all whenever he posts this kind of satire.

Keep it hard for your pard, Pirate. Yo ho ho and a bounty of bum, my friend. :-)

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 30, 2009 2:13 PM

PIZMOBEACH

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So many people in RWED talk about FREEDOM. There are so many kinds of freedom.

I know this will sound like my usual snide/snark - but not so. In all seriousness, I am jealous of PN's freedom from posting the truth, freedom from any sense of respect for accuracy. I cannot imagine what that would be like - it must be very liberating, just whatever the f*ck you want to say, say it.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 2:26 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Now go to your toilet, take a dump, scoop it out, and eat it.

That's what gays do. Or at least gay guys and fag hags.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=toss%20my%20salad

Does that sound right to you?

Gay rape and gang-rape by real gangs is VERY popular in prisons.

If you were raped by a gay pedophile as a kid, would you want therapy and arrest of the rapist, or would you rather grow up a gay pedophile with multiple personality disorder?

Then there's the female sex hormones in soft plastic beverage containers and soy bean "foods" to turn men into fags, and male anabolic steroids in dairy and meat products to turn women into lesbians, with cancer as a side effect.

Is that the future you want for you and your family?

I have friends and family who are "gay", and none are really happy, with rape, incest and chemical poisonings as proximate causes to their gayness. Seeing one friend rock back and forth uncontrollably only when sitting near his incestuous gay father, or sitting in a speeding car runnign a redlight while another another gay friend raped in foster homes freaks out his wife's kid is not his own and his brother's a coke dealer, or another gay friend dope dealer doped up on heroin, is quite sad to see. Nuttin happy bout that, no matter how much money they make.

Homosex is part of the eugenics conspiracy to genocide 90% of the human race. SCAM.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 2:54 PM

PIZMOBEACH

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Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Now go to your toilet, take a dump, scoop it out, and eat it.




Oh my, that is VERY un-hygenic! Bad Homophobic 'News!



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Friday, October 30, 2009 2:54 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

See? Just some more good-natured chain-pulling by Pirate News.

He starts off by advocating Eugenics in the form of wiping out the gay population. (Bullet in Milk = good riddance!)

Then he states that he has gay friends, despite his view on murdering gay people. This is the first wink at the audience. Of course Piratenews has gay 'friends.' But the only shooting he's doing is clearly 'what, what, in the butt.'

Another clue that he's joking is when he says plastic is turning men into women, and meat is turning women into men. A critical thinker might ask, "Don't men eat meat, and wouldn't that reinforce their manlyness?" And that's when he'd laugh his ass off, saying, "Yes, I feel that men who eat meat are quite manly." And of course this is just another 'wink, wink, nudge' for the audience about his own sexuality.

Finally, he ends with a complaint about homosexuality being a eugenics program to wipe out 90% of the population. This, from the man who opened up with an advocacy of eugenics. (Bullet in Milk = good riddance!) And so we've come full circle. Or fool circle, as Pirate might say.

And just to make sure we get the joke, he closes with a four letter word. SCAM. As in, "I'm scamming you, people. Get it?"

Good one, Pirate. Keep up the witty Satire. Now that I know you're secretly advocating Gay Rights, I'm right behind you. I'm sure I'll have to get in line, though. ;-)

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 30, 2009 3:03 PM

RUE

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I laughed so hard I almost peed. I can't explain why --- just hit me at the right time I guess.

Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Keep it hard for your pard, Pirate. Yo ho ho and a bounty of bum, my friend. :-)

--Anthony



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Friday, October 30, 2009 3:09 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


'Hero'

"The Constitution contains a right to privacy ..."
Actually, no, it doesn't.

AND - you apparently failed to read that anti-gay marriage laws have been found in federal court to be exactly like anti-miscegenation laws - and therefore unconstitutional.

Did you fail your constitutional law class, by any chance ?

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Friday, October 30, 2009 3:21 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello Rue,

Potential Spoilers Below:

Sometimes I am reminded of the 2002 movie Hero starring Jet Li. A visually stunning picture, it amounted to my mind to little more than a Propaganda Piece that apologized for cruel governance.

The titular Hero of the piece was a man whose home village had been brutalized during the Emperor's conquests to unify China.

Several civic-minded assassins rose up from the populace, hoping to slay the Emperor. So, the Emperpr put a price on their heads. The cherry on top was that whoever rid him of these troublesome assassins would be granted a personal audience.

So the titular Hero went on a crusade to find and remove these assassins. This, so that he could get access to the Emperor and rid the world of his tyranny.

When he was finally granted his audience, and heard the Emperor speak of his plans to improve China and make a more perfect society, the Hero realized the error of his ways. He confessed to the Emperor that he had come to kill him, and informed the Emperor that he had no choice but to slay him as an example to others.

The film ends with the Emperor's archers lining up and executing the Hero.

Moral of the Story: A true Hero endures tyranny within government for the prospect of a better society.

--Anthony

P.S. Glad I could give you a chuckle.

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 30, 2009 3:26 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


So you're saying we should kill Hero?

The shooter had his own gay campaign manager and voted for many gay causes, so he was NOT a homophobe. He was gunning for Satanic S&M Gov Jerry Brown's Democratic mafia machine, but ran out of bullets. The mayor he shot was not gay BTW.
www.zimbio.com/San+Francisco+and+National+Political+Corruption+and+New
s+Events/articles/165/Milk+Movie+Lies+Dan+White+Killer+San+Francisco


Schools put on notice: Mass boycott of Pedophile Harvey Milk Day
www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113024

Quote:

"Sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure. At thirty-three, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him. Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems."
-Randy Shilts, a homosexual San Francisco Chronicle reporter, biography of Milk called "The Mayor of Castro Street"



Milk supported CIA agent Jim Jones who massacred 918 Christians and a Congressman in Jonestown, Guyana in a CIA mind-control experiment

Quote:

"Rev. Jim, It may take me many a day to come back down from the high that I reach today. I found something dear today. I found a sense of being that makes up for all the hours and energy placed in a fight. I found what you wanted me to find. I shall be back. For I can never leave."
-Harvey Milk

"Jim Jones is a man of the highest character, who has undertaken constructive remedies for social problems which have been amazing in their scope and effectiveness."
-Harvey Milk, letter to President Jimmy Carter



Jim Jones is censored from the Milk movie, of course.


Milk Day at CIA death camp on Miranda


They all fall down: Your CIA tax dollars at work


Most refused suicide or to kill their kids so CIA put a bullet in their head
Cyanide makes muscles contract and breaks spines backwards as not seen in this photo


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Friday, October 30, 2009 3:31 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I nearly wept when the Hero abandoned his crusade for Justice, and turned instead to the father tyrant and trusted him to make a better world.

It was the failure of the Hero, and the ruination of an otherwise entertaining film.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 30, 2009 3:41 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Hero was blatant Communist propaganda.

Jet Li is living in Commie China, so he has to make movies like that if he's wants to survive the death squads and cannibals.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 4:00 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

It was certainly propaganda. And it was certainly made with the approval of a Communist government.

But its themes extend to all tyrannical and oppressive governance, whatever their philosophies or methods.

--Anthony




"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 30, 2009 4:15 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


And that's why nobody has the guts to stop the NWO overthrow of USA today.

GW Bush bribed or killed all soldiers who know what's going on.

Ask Pat Tillman. Oh, you can't, he got 3 bullets in the head at point blank range from his own troops.

King Obama is doing the same. Or the Shadow Govt of Kosher banksters is.

Mind control is the key. Mass-deprogramming is the cure.

I suspect that's what Joss' job is. That's the theme of Dollhouse and Firefly. BTVS covered that too.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 4:34 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

If you really believed what you were saying, Pirate, you wouldn't be screaming it.

You'd be whispering carefully chosen words from hidden shadows to the right people at the right time.

Bullhorns don't deprogram shit. The bad guys always have a bigger bullhorn.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 30, 2009 4:35 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Mrs Harvey Milk's snuff video A CERTAIN SACRIFICE at www.gynophagia.org (cannibalism)

NSFW: Watch Mrs Harvey Milk's snuff porn video A CERTAIN SACRIFICE
Lacluster acting, until the human sacrifice at the end, with Mrs Harvey Milk covered in the victim's blood...
http://xoteria.com/GATEWAY_ACS.html

Screenshots from Mrs Harvey Milk's snuff film:




Looks just like Alex Jones undercover video at Bohemian Grove ritual human sacrifice


Who is this actor and where is he now?






The Killing




Mrs Harvey Milk covered in the victim's blood

This was Mrs Harvey Milk's first film. Coincidence?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000187/

It's censored from her locked bio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_(entertainer)

The 2nd film by Mrs Harvey Milk was with major Hollywood stars.

Her 3rd film:


Illuminati star wears Eye of Lucifer (US Govt Great Seal)

The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave
(requires Satanic ritual human sacrifice)
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_contro
l.htm


Coincidence?

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Friday, October 30, 2009 5:27 PM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

LOL! Good one, Piratenews.

First, you pretend to confuse actors with movie characters.

Then, you outright lie to see if anyone will notice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_filmography

Ha Ha! I get the joke. The truth was on wikipedia the whole time, if anyone bothered to check.

You sly devil, you.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 30, 2009 5:48 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Mrs Harvey Milk's Mafia crime family:

Quote:


Evil eyes: Louise Ciccone with Mafia killer Chris Paciello

Madonna Seeing Mafia Killer Chris Paciello Again?

Madonna has now been linked to convicted mafia killer Chris Paciello. The 50-year-old singer was rumoured to be involved with 37-year-old Paciello 10 years ago - before he was jailed in 1999 for seven years for his role in a New York robbery which left a woman dead. [Paciello had been free on $15-million bail.]

A source claims Madonna has been flying to Paciello’s home in Miami to rekindle their relationship between shows on her ‘Sticky and Sweet’ tour. She also reportedly put up £25,000 bail when Paciello was arrested on suspicion of beating up a man in Hollywood in August. A source told Britain’s Daily Star newspaper: “Chris was in trouble again earlier this year, and it was Madonna he turned to for help then. They’ve remained close, and they’re in constant touch wherever she is in the world.”

It has been reported the pair were both staying in the same hotel in Toronto yesterday, after Madonna’s performance in the Canadian city on Saturday (18.10.08).

www.javno.com/en-celebrities/madonna-seeing-mafia-killer-chris-paciell
o-again_194211



Quote:


DreamWorks UNMADE MAN movie with Marky Mark?

Chemical Cowboys: The Club King Of New York

TruTV (aka Court TV)

Paciello was born Chris Ludwigsen, but he took his mother's maiden name at sixteen, in rejection of his father, a former bouncer and heroin addict who faced charges in the late 1980s for burglary, auto theft, and drugs. Paciello was tight with the Bensonhurst Bath Avenue crew, a gang that got its start robbing pet shops and video stores and paid the Bonanno crime family for the right to invoke its name for protection in disputes.

By twenty-one, Paciello had orchestrated a $300,000 bank heist in Staten Island. A year later, in 1993, he was behind the wheel of a Mercury sedan playing the getaway driver in a botched home invasion robbery in Staten Island that ended with the death of forty-six-year-old housewife Judith Shemtov. Paciello had heard that Shemtov's husband, Sami, a wealthy businessman, kept hundreds of thousands of dollars in a safe hidden somewhere in the house.

Judith Shemtov was sipping tea when she answered a knock at her door and three men with guns shoved their way in and ordered her to "open the safe." Sami heard gunfire and rushed in to find his wife shot in the face with a .45 automatic. The shooter was thirty-year-old Tommy Reynolds, a Bath Avenue soldier so reckless that he had nearly killed a Gambino crime family associate outside a Brooklyn bar two years earlier.

Chris Paciello needed a good reason to leave New York while police snooped around the unsolved Shemtov murder. In August 1994, Paciello moved to Miami and bought Mickey's, a restaurant previously owned by actor Mickey Rourke, and managed by John Gotti's former driver Carlo Vaccarezza. Paciello invited Caruso to join him as a promoter and club director.

In November 1994, Caruso and Paciello reopened Mickey's as Club Risk. Attendance was lackluster. Paciello lost faith in Caruso's promoting prowess, and Caruso grew increasingly frustrated at being frozen out of management decisions as Paciello took closed-door meetings with Gambino family associates Johnny Rizzo and John D'Amico.

Caruso's girlfriend, who stayed behind in New York, had just given birth to their son and wanted Caruso to come back home. But it wasn't until he found a murder fugitive in his Miami apartment that he decided to cut his losses. Paciello had given Gambino mobster Vinnie Rizzuto Jr. the okay to hide in Caruso's apartment while the FBI and the Columbo family were looking for him for the murder of a capo's son.

By February 1995, Caruso had fled back to New York and vowed to his girlfriend that he would uphold his New Year's Eve resolution not to drink, deal drugs, or be lured back into a life of crime. Caruso was fearful that Paciello would kill him just for what he'd seen and heard.

Fugitive Rizzuto, who was later caught using Caruso's name and identification, would eventually plead guilty to murder and was sentenced to twenty-five years. Club Risk mysteriously burned down weeks after Caruso's exit, and Paciello used the insurance money to open a new club that boasted such celebrity guests as Jennifer Lopez, Donald Trump, Niki Taylor, and Gianni Versace. The handsome nightlife impresario became a celebrity in his own right, dating supermodels and attending charity balls. But years later, the feds finally caught up with Paciello. In 2000, the twenty-nine-year-old club owner pleaded guilty to his role in the bank heist and Shemtov's murder as part of a cooperation deal and was sentenced to seven years. Tommy Reynolds, who shot Shemtov, got life in prison.

www.trutv.com/library/crime/gangsters_outlaws/gang/chemical_cowboys/12
.html



Russian Mafia Promises to Kidnap Madonna Kids if She Doesn’t Cancel Her Tour in Russia
http://englishrussia.com/?p=202

Quote:

Madonna has sparked outrage among religious leaders across the globe with a mock crucifixion scene, in which she wears a crown of fake thorns while performing on a mirrored cross.


Sounds Satanic.

Notice how Mrs Harvey Milk's first film, about Satanic human sacrifice, had the victim wrapped in a plastic tarp BEFORE he was killed, to contain the blood (evidence) after he's beaten and perhaps stabbed to death. I've never seen that done in a simulated Hollywood human sacrifice scene, and in one mob hitman murder scene. But Mafia hitmen and serial killers routinely do that, for real, to keep from going to jail. That's the only part of the movie where it didn't look fake, and looked more like a documentary.

This is a "Mob" problem I'm having while shooting a documentary on motorcycle riders in East TN and West NC. The Harley MC riders in criminal gangs I have no problem with, even the confessed killers (throwing POWs from aircraft for US Govt in Nam), and are very helpful (best medical advice I ever got). But the restaurant businesses owners and managers appear to be mobbed up, and ban me from shooting video on their property, when a documentary would only help their sales revenue. Weird to have suspected mafia sit me down in their office and tell me to stop shooting, after they begged me to in the first place ("I'm too 'political", ie, on law enforcement radar discussing mafia matters). Small legit business owners welcome my video work. My Mafia uncle was allegedly murdered while owning a large Harley dealership, and his brother was chopped in half (never did find the other half). This is also something my wife saw for years while working in the restaurant business, from all nationalities of mafia, when they steal her paychecks and hang with the rich and infamous. So my documentary might never happen, since I don't want to cut those scenes and reduce the overall story, and my budget is suffering from a 50% cut in the Greatest Depression. I'm hoping the Mob will sell out, but the economy is so bad that's not looking good, and their asking price is 1,500% higher than what they bought the business for...

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Friday, October 30, 2009 8:19 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Will Mrs Milk turn up butchered with her boyfriend the Rat?

Quote:


Actor Jason Stratham (left) with Mafia friends at Polaroid House in LA

A murderous Mafia associate who turned government informant in a bid to avoid life in prison has emerged from custody and landed in Los Angeles, where he was just photographed partying with celebrities at a Malibu beach house. As seen in the below photo, convicted felon Chris Paciello, 35, was snapped with "Entourage" star Kevin Connolly during a bash at the Polaroid Beach House. The waterfront estate, which has drawn celebrities like Lindsay Lohan, is used as a promotional tool by the photo firm, which released, among other images, the picture of Paciello and Connolly (we're guessing that Polaroid had no idea about the bloody criminal pedigree of Paciello, who left federal prison last fall). The publicity photo first appeared on TMZ.com, where Connolly's companion was identified only as his "buff buddy." The mob henchman, who was part of a Colombo crime family crew headed by captain William "Wild Bill" Cutolo, turned government snitch after pleading guilty for his roles in a $300,000 bank heist and a Staten Island home invasion that ended with the murder of female homeowner Judith Shemtov.

www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0710071paciello1.html

That picture of Chris Paciello (Binger) should be altered to make his face a RAT's face. This low life rat told on and made up stories of all his close friends, even his best friends who were there for him thru thick and thin. Who ate Sunday dinner with him, Keith and his Mom and sometimes his Grandfather (great meatballs). Chris is a rat, the lowest thing a person could be. This coming from one of his former best friends, Chris didn't Rat because he felt bad or any remorse for the person he and he alone started the chain of events and participated in the murder of an innocent Mother, daughter, sister, cousin, and friend to many. He ratted because he got caught. He ratted for himself to save his own ass. Trust me; he waited till every other route was exhausted. Then when there was no way his money or high priced lawyers could get him time off he Ratted. He would have raped a 4 year old boy to get out of it, if that’s what had to be done. He hurt many people and families and little children who had to grow up without there fathers, uncles, and mothers without there sons. Funeral’s missed hundreds and hundreds of people’s lives ruined, people who killed no one. Just because Chris decided he didn’t want to take the time for the crime he committed because he’s better than everyone. How F**K*D would the world be if everybody lived by those rules. Doing anything and everything possible to not do the time for the crimes they have committed. This is so nice and convenient, “wow” even our military should adopt this policy, get caught tell all the positions, plans, and where your superior officers are and get rewarded when your done. Na F*** that… I’d rather not commit crimes I don’t want to do the time for and keep my soul for God to judge, but that’s just me. Look in the mirror it’s nice to see your own reflection

www.tmz.com/2007/07/10/polaroid-rage-at-the-beach/



Harvey Milk dines at this paroled mobster's new pizza joints in Hollywood, where he extorts $400,000 "loans" from nearby restaurants:
http://blogs.herald.com/scene_in_the_tropics/miami_vice/

This mobster was arrested for running over a guy with his car on purpose, then beat him up, so Mrs Harvey Milk paid his $25,000 bail.
www.tmz.com/2008/08/17/ex-of-madonna-naomi-campbell-busted-for-assault/

Charges dropped against this mobster, despite security video showing the assault in Hollywood (ie Witness "Protection" Program).
www.tmz.com/2008/09/10/madonnas-ex-beats-down-assault-charges/

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Friday, October 30, 2009 11:55 PM

RIVERLOVE


You're no credit to the human race PN, and I'm quite sure your parents are or were just beside themselves in pain and anguish and guilt over the pathetic vile spawn they produced and gave a name to. Unless, of course, and I think highly more likely, your foul-stenched form of life originated in a greasy jar at a sperm donor clinic frequented by local drug addicts and drunks, located around the corner from the Legal Aid office and adjacent methadone outreach clinic. The world got a real bargain for the $25 your sperm-daddy was paid for his 30 second feat of self-humiliation and self-gratification. Good thing they had some wrinkled and somewhat moist National Geographic mags laying around there to assist your dear pop for the blessed event of your arrival. I wonder if there was an announcement of some sort. I only wish I could have been outside the building, before your dad-to-be staggered inside to have been able to offer him $50 to just go away and never come back.




They let him keep the jar after they swabbed you out of there.





And he got his new t-shirt as promised.





Your lovely waitress mom had a beautiful smile, was simultaneously demurely innocent and sexually irresistable, and had a great rack. Not much is known of her after she abandoned you in booth number two at the diner to go run off with cherry pie-eating Corey Feldman for a short-lived marraige of profound steamy passion and fruity cocktails with umbrellas in Acapulco.





Nikos, the Greek ex-fisherman owner of the diner wept when he saw your helpless desperate situation, and took you into the bosom of his body and home. There, you would grow up taunted and shamed for years by step-brothers Atlas, Sting, and Dildoa.

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:28 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello Rue,

Potential Spoilers Below:

Sometimes I am reminded of the 2002 movie Hero starring Jet Li. A visually stunning picture, it amounted to my mind to little more than a Propaganda Piece that apologized for cruel governance.

The titular Hero of the piece was a man whose home village had been brutalized during the Emperor's conquests to unify China.

Several civic-minded assassins rose up from the populace, hoping to slay the Emperor. So, the Emperpr put a price on their heads. The cherry on top was that whoever rid him of these troublesome assassins would be granted a personal audience.

So the titular Hero went on a crusade to find and remove these assassins. This, so that he could get access to the Emperor and rid the world of his tyranny.

When he was finally granted his audience, and heard the Emperor speak of his plans to improve China and make a more perfect society, the Hero realized the error of his ways. He confessed to the Emperor that he had come to kill him, and informed the Emperor that he had no choice but to slay him as an example to others.

The film ends with the Emperor's archers lining up and executing the Hero.

Moral of the Story: A true Hero endures tyranny within government for the prospect of a better society.

--Anthony

P.S. Glad I could give you a chuckle.

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner



Of course it's a propaganda piece - like most Hollywood movies are propaganda which reinforces American values and the American way of life. Why should Chinese movies be any different?

Love him or hate him - Qing create a unified, prosperous and powerful China - something that the Chinese celebrate (war of independence, anyone?)

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Of course it's a propaganda piece - like most Hollywood movies are propaganda which reinforces American values and the American way of life. Why should Chinese movies be any different?

Love him or hate him - Qing create a unified, prosperous and powerful China - something that the Chinese celebrate (war of independence, anyone?)



Wait - you're saying Bruce Willis CAN'T shoot down a helicopter by jumping a car into it in mid-air? And Will Smith DIDN'T destroy the alien mother ship by uploading a virus into it?

Damn. My whole image of America is tainted now.

Please don't tell me that the war in Iraq wasn't won when Dubya made that "Mission Accomplished" announcement, 'cause that would totally destroy my image of America's greatness...

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 5:45 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


To go back to the very beginning, before all this bullcrap, yes, I thought "Milk" was very, very well done...and I'm not a Penn fan, either. I lived through it; I hung out in the Haight and stayed at the apartment of a couple of gay friends at the time. They had a spider monkey that was give to leaping from person to person franetically...made it tough to sleep!

But yes, I knew the Castro then and what it was before then; the improvement was dramatic. So close to the Haight, but the gay neighborhood was such a contrast... I remember the horror of Milk and Moscone's murders all too well.

I also recommend "Tales of the City", for more than the one reason given...and by the way, haven't run into too many who've seen it, so huzzah! There's also "Torch Song Trilogy", another really good movie.

For me, also, the "eye-opener" was the bigotry. I guess 'cuz of where I grew up, it came as a shock to me to discover the ugliness people hold in their hearts toward other humans who are just humans, so slightly different from themselves as to be ridiculous to hate. I'm glad I grew up where I did; I never "got" racism, either; neither one makes sense.

To say gays have the same "rights" as everyone else is absurd, even today. I don't read PN...not only did he not make sense the few times I did, but the hatred isn't something I feel any need to expose myself to further. Personally, from the couple of posts I did read before giving up, I think he needs help desperately and I'm glad there aren't too many of his ilk around. Is that prejudice? If so, I don't care. Sick people filled with hatred and racism simply aren't people I want to be around or listen to.

I'm ashamed of California when it comes to the gay marriage thing; but I do know we can blame the propaganda, the religious right, and the gay rights people being too complacent; and it will be fixed. Blew me away tho' that they managed to do the job on people so well that even those bought into it who, were they older, would have lived through the illegality of black/white marriages. We're a strange--and at times very sad--little species.

I discovered in my late 40s that I was bisexual--all the clues were there all my life, just nobody "asked me", so I never knew. For me, love is about the PERSON, not the sex, race, religion or anything else. I wish the whole world could evolve to be that way. In some eyes, I guess that makes me crazy. So be it.

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:49 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



Gay Catholic priest Jerry Brown with CIA MKULTRA mass murderer Jim Jones

LAPD Unit Said to Have Spied on Actors, Athletes

Under orders from Chief Willie L. Williams, Los Angeles police investigators began searching files on Friday in the department's Organized Crime Intelligence Division to determine whether the unit spied on an array of well-known politicians, actors and sports figures in what has become yet another embarrassment for the Police Department.

In an effort to be reassuring, Williams met Friday morning with the 45 officers assigned to the special intelligence unit and advised them that the division will remain under lock and key until internal LAPD investigators conclude their probe of the spying allegations, contained in a book by a former member of the unit.

The book--"L.A. Secret Police: Inside the LAPD Elite Spy Network"--is a sweeping personal account of Rothmiller's life with the LAPD, focusing on the super-secret intelligence unit but also including accounts of a department rife with brutality, racism and lying.

The former detective, who left the department nine years ago, said that the OCID had all but forsaken its responsibility for tracking gangsters in favor of cultivating often scurrilous gossip about politicians, movie stars, athletes and other police agencies.

Some of those targeted in the inquiries, according to Rothmiller, included Rock Hudson, Robert Redford, Barbra Streisand, Muhammad Ali, Tommy Lasorda, Frank Sinatra, Connie Chung, Marilyn Monroe, Robert F. Kennedy, former California Atty. Gen. John Van de Kamp and former California Gov. Edmund G. (Jerry) Brown Jr.

He contended that the investigations of political figures helped Gates remain in office during the clamor for his resignation after the March, 1991, beating of King.

"Agents spent countless man-hours stalking City Council members in preparation for just such an emergency," he wrote.

"Because of OCID, the LAPD had secret files on (a) gay council member hiding in the closet and on (a) council member who was sleeping with an aide. The department had intelligence files on questionable deals and campaign funding and a mountain of other embarrassing, sticky business. As soon as someone declared candidacy, a full-scale investigation began."

Rothmiller also alleged that the division set out to prove that former Gov. Edmund G. (Jerry) Brown Jr., was gay by eavesdropping on his car telephone conversations and conducting surveillance of his Fairfax District apartment, where the walls were said to be "painted black in the then-preferred manner of sadomasochistic freaks." Rothmiller said nothing was proved.


Gay Catholic priest Jerry Brown refused to marry lesbian Linda Ronstadt
www.afterellen.com/blog/scribegrrrl/la-glc-gala-photos-2007

Aides to Jerry Brown at the Democratic National Convention in New York said he would have no comment. But his father, former Gov. Edmund (Pat) Brown--another alleged OCID target--said it "would be shockingly bad" if the LAPD spied on his family.

"To waste taxpayer money on a family like the Brown family whose life is public, I sure hope that was not going on," he said.

Files were also amassed on nonpolitical celebrities such as boxer Sugar Ray Leonard, baseball pitcher Sandy Koufax and assorted church prelates who Rothmiller said were "fair game."

Rothmiller wrote that he was ordered to collect information on "such notables" as Mayor Bradley, City Councilman Richard Alatorre and Hollywood mogul Dino De Laurentiis.

Rothmiller, in a news conference at the Hilton Hotel in downtown Los Angeles, described the OCID as the palace guard of the Police Department, digging up damaging information on "anybody that wielded political power or any influence or anybody that was well known within the Hollywood circuit."

It did not matter if the targets of the investigations were considered friend or foe, Rothmiller said, because "a friend can become an enemy overnight." He alleged that the information was used in the same way former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover reportedly used damaging information to manipulate public officials.

The former chief said the OCID was created in 1957 to gather information on organized crime figures. "That's what they've been doing and they have a very fine record of dealing with organized crime, of dealing with the Mafia in this area," Gates said.

"While it may be of interest to some people in government who is sleeping with whom, who is frequenting what nightclubs and what are the various proclivities of public persons," Yaroslavsky said, "that is not the business of government and not what taxpayers want their Police Department to be doing."

Councilman Woo went a step further, urging an investigation to be conducted by a group outside the LAPD.

"This is not the FBI, this is not the CIA; thank heavens Los Angeles no longer has a police chief who thinks he is J. Edgar Hoover," Woo said.

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-07-11/news/mn-1476_1_intelligence-uni
t



Gay Bohemian Grove in full Monte Rio CA

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:27 PM

DREAMTROVE


River,

Start a fight? Um. Have you seen the other threads? This one is a positively civil discussion.

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:46 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


The story of MILK is political corruption, and worse.

Neither of which are discussed in the fictional movie of MILK.

The murders had NOTHING to do with gays.

Myth FAIL

PS: Me suspects River is a hillary. Or a Satanic serial killer. Ye doth protest too much.

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Sunday, November 1, 2009 12:53 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Wait - you're saying Bruce Willis CAN'T shoot down a helicopter by jumping a car into it in mid-air? And Will Smith DIDN'T destroy the alien mother ship by uploading a virus into it?

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!


Actually, no, he uploaded the virus then launched a nuke into it and somehow made it back out of the ship in "20 seconds" just before the nuke exploded.


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Sunday, November 1, 2009 7:01 AM

DREAMTROVE


Reading back through, River's attempt to get PNs goat was clever but won't work. You're very far from his goat. do a little research. An A for artistry though, you really should write fiction.

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Sunday, November 1, 2009 9:36 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Why bother? If I read his posts, like many here (and from the look of it, River too), I just get sickened by the first line or two, shake my head at the insanity, and stop reading beyond that.

There are worthwhile things to debate, why pay any attention to one crazy running around getting his kicks out of the recognition? Don't bother doing research, River; he's not worth the time you'd waste. All he wants is the excuse to spout his idiocy, and if he's replied to, it only encourages him further.

Me, I'll leave him to his obvious fun of hunting up obscure weirdness on the internet, which from the look of it is all he does all day, every day, and throwing them up here in hopes of getting the attention he so obviously craves. Screw 'im, he wastes too much space in the threads as it is, I'd rather talk about the subjects. Having said that, this post is about him and not the subject, so that's a few more minutes I'll never get back out of my life. Thank gawd I type fast!

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Thu, March 28, 2024 21:07 - 2072 posts
Biden
Thu, March 28, 2024 21:04 - 852 posts
Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility
Thu, March 28, 2024 21:02 - 54 posts
China
Thu, March 28, 2024 20:53 - 446 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Thu, March 28, 2024 17:24 - 3413 posts
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Thu, March 28, 2024 17:20 - 6155 posts
BUILD BACK BETTER!
Thu, March 28, 2024 16:32 - 9 posts
Well... He was no longer useful to the DNC or the Ukraine Money Laundering Scheme... So justice was served
Thu, March 28, 2024 12:44 - 1 posts
Salon: NBC's Ronna blunder: A failed attempt to appeal to MAGA voters — except they hate her too
Thu, March 28, 2024 07:04 - 1 posts
Russian losses in Ukraine
Wed, March 27, 2024 23:21 - 987 posts
human actions, global climate change, global human solutions
Wed, March 27, 2024 15:03 - 824 posts
NBC News: Behind the scenes, Biden has grown angry and anxious about re-election effort
Wed, March 27, 2024 14:58 - 2 posts

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