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'Israel offers measures to get peace talks moving again, Blair says

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Friday, March 19, 2010 10:25 AM

NIKI2

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Can you find any "measures" "offered" by Israel in the article?
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Israel refuses to reverse its decision to build new homes in largely Arab East Jerusalem, but it is offering measures to kick-start the peace process, Middle East envoy Tony Blair told CNN on Friday.

Blair's comments came after a meeting in Moscow of the Middle East Quartet, which called for Israel and the Palestinians to have direct negotiations and reach a final settlement within two years.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged a package of moves to boost confidence and get the peace process back on track, Blair said. Those measures include steps to improve the humanitarian situation in Gaza, Blair said, but he did not specify whether the steps included prisoner releases.

Blair, the former British prime minister, is the representative of the Quartet, the four international entities seeking peace in the region. The four members of the Quartet are the United States, Russia, the European Union, and the United Nations.

Blair said he is certain that Israel genuinely wants a workable peace deal with the Palestinians, but that it is also important for Palestinians to know they would have a viable independent state.

Israel's recent announcement that it plans to build some 1,600 housing units in a disputed part of East Jerusalem has sparked protests and strained the U.S. relationship with Israel, though U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Friday the relationship is "deep and broad" as well as "strong and enduring."

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said Friday the Quartet condemns Israel's construction plans.

Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat said he welcomed the Quartet's statement and hoped it could be translated into action.

"I think it's really more than words," he told CNN, "because this is coming at a time when the international community is at its feet now as regards Israeli settlement activity and Netanyahu is still being defiant. Netanyahu is defying the whole international community now and he 's insisting to continue settlement activity, and he's telling the world, 'Look, I'm going to fool you -- I'm not going to announce any tenders anymore, but I am going to continue with settlements.'"

Israel and the Palestinians were supposed to hold indirect "proximity talks" with former U.S. Sen. George Mitchell, the Obama administration's special envoy to the Middle East. But two days after those talks were announced, Israel revealed its plan to build the 1,600 units in East Jerusalem, and that put the entire process on hold.

Erakat told CNN it would be "very difficult" to hold any negotiations -- including proximity talks -- unless Israel rescinds its plan to build in East Jerusalem.

Lieberman said Israel, for its part, is ready to negotiate.

"The Palestinian side makes the wrong impression by dragging its feet by refusing to negotiate," he said. "Direct negotiations, and not raising complaints, will bring them to the goal."

Micky Rosenfeld, a spokesman for the Israeli police, said 2,500 police had been deployed around Jerusalem to maintain calm. He also said male Muslim worshippers younger than 50 were not being allowed to attend Friday prayers at Al-Aqsa mosque, one of the city's holiest sites.

Ban said his visit will be to assess the humanitarian situation in Gaza, something Quartet members said they are deeply concerned about. They called for a solution that addresses Israel's security concerns while also allowing humanitarian aid, commercial goods, and people to enter the seaside territory.

The Israeli military conducted airstrikes on six sites in Gaza late Thursday in what it said was retaliation for attacks by Palestinian militants. Israel said a Thai worker was killed when a rocket fired from Gaza landed inside southern Israel.

The military said it targeted tunnels used for smuggling and terrorist activity, and a weapons manufacturing site.

The Quartet condemned the rocket attacks from Gaza and called for an immediate end to violence.

I don't see any "measures" that will help peace talks there--unless deploying 25,000 police and keeping Muslims from praying at their mosque is supposed to scare them into talks?

Nah, there's no bias on the US side...Biden and Clinton are quick to reaffirm our backing of Israel. Lieberman calls it "draggint their feet" and "complaining" because Israel intends to expand it's settlements--two days after peace talks are announced. It's the Palestinians' fault, of course. I agree with the Palestine negotiator, and can't imagine what possible reason they would have to trust Israel to be negotiating in good faith.


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Friday, March 19, 2010 11:34 AM

TRAVELER


We, in the United States, need to stand firm against more settlements. I am tired of our support for a regime that robs land. If Israel really wants peace they need to show good faith and the United States needs to withdraw our support when Israel continues on this path. That the Palestinians are willing to accept a Israel as nation, when the whole region was theirs to begin with, is a major step from them toward peace. What ever these negotiations are called, it is obvious the Palestinans are willing to talk. Israel needs to follow that example.

I believe the other members of the Quartet will put pressure on us to stop our support. We need to listen to them.

I can't imagine any other "measures" the Palestinians want then the end of these settlements.


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Friday, March 19, 2010 11:43 AM

MINCINGBEAST


allow me to be the voice of extreme pessism [sic], which is the easiest thing in the world to do.

i do not beleive that either side wants peace. or if they do want peace, they want peace without compromise, which is really just another term for victory.

palestinians will never accept the filthy joos as a nation, or neighbors; israelis will never accept the presence of palestinians in the land granted to them by a fictional entity during the bronze age.

peace process just strikes me as one-handed political theatre, while they angle for position to slit the other side's throat. and we have a role in this?

depressing, no?


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Friday, March 19, 2010 12:40 PM

NIKI2

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Traveler: Ditto, every word!

Mincing, goodness doll, you really DO need to brush up...effective communication makes for much better understanding and discussion. One might not even know what you mean by "pessism", and remember, "i before e, except after c".

As to the points you make, on the other hand, you might well be right. I choose not to believe so.

Still looking for those "measures" in the title...still can't find any...


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Friday, March 19, 2010 12:54 PM

MINCINGBEAST


a pox upon my grammar and spelling. oh well. bad grammar for bad ideas: truly fitting.

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Friday, March 19, 2010 1:08 PM

TRAVELER


You may be right about the Palestinians. They may never want peace. But the continuing of taking their land gives them good reason to fight back. If Israel stops giving them the a motive to use terrorist attacks and rioting, then we may learn if Palestinians want peace.


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Friday, March 19, 2010 1:21 PM

MINCINGBEAST


call me boorish, traveler, but i think that israel's continuing insistence on building in disputed areas might say something about their desire for peace, too.

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Friday, March 19, 2010 2:06 PM

TRAVELER


As I said, Israel needs to stop. To continue taking land from the Palestinians while saying they want to discuss peace is hypocrisy. The Israelis need to show good faith. Palestine has to show that the terrorism is going to stop. I fear the decades of hate between these two will make it impossible for either side to make concessions.
This is a twoway street. The rockets coming out of Gaza certainly don't help. This settlement issue may be the card Israel is using to say we will back down if the rockets stop. And Hamas may throw it in their face that the rockets will stop if the Israels stop stealing our land. Someone has to take first step. If Israel does it first this puts to ball in the Palestine's court.
Meanwhile, why should we back Israel over the Palestinians?


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Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:24 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Good points.

Also something of interest, Israel's current leadership showing that it isn't all evil:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8576282.stm

Heads should roll

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Monday, March 22, 2010 5:18 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Why would we think you boorish, Mincing, when your post essentially agreed with Travelers' directly above, and it seems to be the majority of us feel there is blame enough to go around...and a number of us are distinctly suspicious of Israel's intent or desire for peace? I think you're spot on.

It may go further than that, possible. If the Israeli's stop acting in the barbaric ways they have and give their military a better directive (like "don't kill innocent people"--something along those lines ;o) that might leave enough breathing space or lessen the number of bombs being lobbed at them (?), THEN showed a desire to stop the land grabbing, maybe... Or not.

You may well be right, Traveler; each has their own "reason" (reads: "excuse") to keep going at the other, peace may still be a long ways off. To me, the best possibility is the young people and citizens of Israel, who may eventually get just sick to death enough of it all that policy changes. Strangely, I don't envision the Palestinians getting sick of it the same way--maybe because they're fighting for their land and their lives as things are now.

More than anything, as usual I think it's the guys in power who are so bent on keeping it up, and on both sides many (most?) of the citizens would just like to go back to living their lives! --tho' maybe most of them don't even remember what that was like!




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