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Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:


U.S., Russia Reach Nuclear Agreement

(CBS/AP) The U.S. and Russia reached a breakthrough agreement Wednesday for a historic treaty to reduce the nuclear arsenals of the former Cold War rivals, the most significant pact in a generation and an important milestone in the decades-long quest to lower the risk of global nuclear war.

After long and trying negotiations, President Barack Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev are to sign the treaty in two weeks in Prague, once final technical details are worked out, officials in Washington and Moscow said. The accord is expected to cut the number of long-range nuclear weapons held by each side to about 1,500, and it raises hopes for further disarmament in the years ahead.

The deal is seen as sealing an increased level of trust and cooperation between the U.S. and Russia, who possess the vast majority of the world's nuclear arms and have labored under strained relations in recent years.




If there's a down side to this, I've not heard it.


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."


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Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:00 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


'Security Theater' on a Global(ist) scale .

" Security theater consists of security countermeasures intended to provide the feeling of improved security while doing little or nothing to actually improve security. The term was coined by Bruce Schneier for his book Beyond Fear, but has gained currency in security circles, particularly for describing airport security measures. It is also used by some experts such as Edward Felten[3] to describe the airport security repercussions due to the September 11 attacks. Security theater gains importance both by satisfying and exploiting the gap between perceived risk and actual risk.

Definition

Security theater has been defined as ostensible security measures which have little real influence on security whilst being publicly visible and designed to demonstrate to the lesser-informed that countermeasures have been considered. Security theater has been related to and has some similarities with superstition.

Disadvantages

Security theater has real monetary costs but does not necessarily provide tangible security benefits. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater

'...In one of the biggest national security reversals of his young presidency, Mr. Obama canceled former President George W. Bush’s plans to station a radar facility in the Czech Republic and 10 ground-based interceptors in Poland. Instead, he plans to deploy smaller SM-3 interceptors by 2011, first aboard ships and later in Europe, possibly even in Poland or the Czech Republic.

Mr. Obama said that the new system “will provide stronger, smarter and swifter defenses of American forces and America’s allies” to meet a changing threat from Iran. Administration officials cited what they called accumulating evidence that Iran had made more progress than anticipated in building short- and medium-range missiles that could threaten Israel and Europe than it had in developing the intercontinental missiles that the Bush system was more suited to counter.

But the decision churned domestic and international politics as Republican critics at home accused Mr. Obama of betraying allies and caving in to Russian pressure, while officials in Eastern Europe expressed discomfort and confusion at the dramatic shift. President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia, who is to meet with Mr. Obama in New York next week, reacted cautiously as Moscow tried to determine whether the new system was less threatening to its own security.

Mr. Obama’s transformation of the missile defense program is one of his administration’s sharpest revisions of the national security policy he inherited from Mr. Bush. At the same time, he resisted pressure from liberals in his party to eliminate the program altogether and he produced an alternative that effectively guaranteed that the United States would deploy some form of European antimissile shield in the near future...'

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/world/europe/18shield.html


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Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:36 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Yeah, the missile defense deal is months old. This was just signed.

And fewer nukes is a good thing, right ?





Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
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Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:39 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Meanwhile Israeli jews have 400 stolen nukes in German submarines and Italian suitcases and threaten to nuke Western Europe and USA.

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Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:48 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Well, kinda good news. Russia, as far as superpower nations are concerned, has lost it credentials in recent times. It's overall position has been weakened, hence the bowing and scraping to keep the peace.

Still though it can be a good thing to have a major power, weak or not, join forces with us to lead the way in powering down. If stockpiles are reduced then, supposedly, there's less of a chance some idiot will push the button thinking "we can win this". The smaller nations hopefully will follow suit. Unlikely, but one can hope.


SGG

Tawabawho?

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Sunday, March 28, 2010 2:47 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Shinygoodguy: Unlikely, but one can hope.


SGG

Tawabawho?




Well, this IS the era of Hope and Change....




Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:07 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


From my point of view, it's good in that since the USSR broke up, their control over their nukes has become iffy and I've heard of plutionium having been pilfered, etc. The fewer there are over there, the better.

Aside from that, it's political theater, I agree. Both sides, and others, have quite enough nukes to start a world war, and quite enough nukes to annhilate the other side. Still, baby steps...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Monday, March 29, 2010 1:18 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Of course, there ARE a couple of potential downsides, depending on which side of the aisle you're on for one of them.

1) If the Russians are dismantling warheads, they're going to have some sizable quantity of weapons-grade nuclear materials on their hands, and an aching need for cashy money. That could go badly. We're going to need some good verification methods to oversee the transfer of materials and to ensure their security and safety.

2) This is in one sense a brilliant purely political move on Obama's part. Sure, it's a good outcome, but I think the timing's more than a coincidence. Several top-tier Republicans - including John McCain and Mitch McConnell - just announced in the last few days that they're going to do nothing but obstruct, obstruct, obstruct, and won't be going along with ANYTHING the Obama administration proposes, or the Democratic legislature brings forward.

So - and there's no partisanship in my pointing this out; I just find it amazing political gamesmanship - this puts Republican leadership in a bit of a pickle: do they go along with Obama for a safer world and the greater good, or do they go with just trying to block anything and everything, in an effort to KEEP Obama from scoring any more political wins on their watch?

It might be an interesting ratification process, and I don't expect that it will go easily...

But yes, in answer to the original question, it certainly DOES seem like a good thing and a laudable goal well worth pursuing.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Monday, March 29, 2010 1:33 PM

BYTEMITE


Being the cynic I am, I have doubts this will do much of anything in terms of safety or on the global scene. But I do see an opportunity here. I hope Russia will either sell us some of their radioactive material to use in our space program, or agree to a condition to use it in their own space program.

Die hard Republicans will see this as weakening US military and cartering to foreign influence. Obama's "brilliant strategy" will earn no political points, and Republican obstructionists will be lauded for their obstructioning by their constituents.

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Monday, March 29, 2010 11:07 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
1) If the Russians are dismantling warheads, they're going to have some sizable quantity of weapons-grade nuclear materials on their hands, and an aching need for cashy money. That could go badly. We're going to need some good verification methods to oversee the transfer of materials and to ensure their security and safety.


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