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Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:12 AM

WHOZIT


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/05/29/maher_obama_not_acti
ng_like_a_real_black_president.html


What if the following had said the same thing;

Glen Beck

Rush Limbaugh

Sean Hannity

Laura Ingraham

Bill O'Reilly

Don Imus

I wonder if Maher will get to stay on Hollywood A-List? He loves those Hollywood partys. My guess is he'll get an "EMMY".


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Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:38 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

Quite correct. He is implying that 'real' black people engage in thuggery. If a different kind of commentator had made this joke, there would have been a heinous outcry.

This is wrong.

--Anthony





"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Monday, May 31, 2010 10:20 AM

WHOZIT


I've been to all my favorite entertainment sites and none of them have posted this story, they would have if Beck or Limbaugh had said it

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Monday, May 31, 2010 10:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


That, my friends, is bigotry & prejudice, straight up.






** ANYONE ** who thinks the Fed Gov't has done " all it possibly can " in response the Gulf Coast oil disaster, or who thinks Obama isn't lying to us all - I have no use for you. You deserve all the animosity and any vulgar "tone" directed your way. ( Anthony , that includes you, buddy. Sorry )

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 4:54 AM

WULFENSTAR

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Its not raciss if a prog, lib, black or brown person does it.

Duh...


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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 4:58 AM

KANEMAN


Hypocrites

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 5:30 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


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That, my friends, is bigotry & prejudice, straight up.

I don't think it's that bad. It plays on a violent cultural/racial stereotype which is dangerous, but holds it up in an admiring light I think. That's not to say I like the joke, or racial stereotype jokes in general.

Quote:

they would have if Beck or Limbaugh had said it

I don't think you would ever catch Beck or Limbaugh showing admiration or longing towards any kind of angry/assertive black culture, so the context of their hypothetical racist quote would be different.

Heads should roll

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 5:54 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/05/29/maher_obama_not_acti
ng_like_a_real_black_president.html


What if the following had said the same thing;

Glen Beck

Rush Limbaugh

Sean Hannity

Laura Ingraham

Bill O'Reilly

Don Imus

I wonder if Maher will get to stay on Hollywood A-List? He loves those Hollywood partys. My guess is he'll get an "EMMY".




You're equating a (sometimes funny) comedian with these folks then? So you agree they aren't journalists, just mediocre comedians.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:13 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/05/29/maher_obama_not_acti
ng_like_a_real_black_president.html


What if the following had said the same thing;

Glen Beck

Rush Limbaugh

Sean Hannity

Laura Ingraham

Bill O'Reilly

Don Imus

I wonder if Maher will get to stay on Hollywood A-List? He loves those Hollywood partys. My guess is he'll get an "EMMY".




You're equating a (sometimes funny) comedian with these folks then? So you agree they aren't journalists, just mediocre comedians.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com





Hello,

These are all political commentators who seek to entertain an audience, as near as I can tell.

--Anthony




"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:50 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/05/29/maher_obama_not_acti
ng_like_a_real_black_president.html


What if the following had said the same thing;

Glen Beck

Rush Limbaugh

Sean Hannity

Laura Ingraham

Bill O'Reilly

Don Imus

I wonder if Maher will get to stay on Hollywood A-List? He loves those Hollywood partys. My guess is he'll get an "EMMY".




You're equating a (sometimes funny) comedian with these folks then? So you agree they aren't journalists, just mediocre comedians.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com]



Hello,

These are all political commentators who seek to entertain an audience, as near as I can tell.

--Anthony



I believe intelligent people would agree with you.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 7:41 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:


What if the following had said the same thing;

Glen Beck

Rush Limbaugh

Sean Hannity

Laura Ingraham

Bill O'Reilly

Don Imus




You, Rappy, "Hero", Kaneman, and PN would be rushing to their defense and calling them role models and heroes?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 7:51 AM

DREAMTROVE


If the point here is that maher is an asshole, that's not news. If the point here is that the lefty audience is not nearly sensitive enough to take it's own side to task for transgressions, then you have a point. Of course, if your point is that people are a little to tight assed a out this sort of thing, which I'm sure would be bill mahers honest response, then you also have a point, but its somewhat dickish a position.

Generally I don't have much sympathy with the offended, I think it's only something to worry about when it becomes a pattern for society as a whole, like the way people currently discuss Latinos and Muslims.

I saw an ad today from horowitz's newsmax, BP oil spill, Obama's Fault? Yes, well, when you have an established record as a racist, you lose credibility, and probably should shut up, but maher only record is as an ass, still, some people were undoubtedly rightly offended. And yeah, sure, his audience should give him he'll for it, but they won't.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:24 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

I think it's only something to worry about when it becomes a pattern for society as a whole, like the way people currently discuss Latinos and Muslims.

I saw an ad today from horowitz's newsmax, BP oil spill, Obama's Fault? Yes, well, when you have an established record as a racist, you lose credibility, and probably should shut up, but maher only record is as an ass, still, some people were undoubtedly rightly offended. And yeah, sure, his audience should give him he'll for it, but they won't.

Audiences for people like those cited ARE audiences for them; hence they applaud. That doesn't reflect the sentiment ofall. Maher is an ass, on many, many issues, not just this one.

But funny, I never heard any cries from the right's audience about "Obama hates white people", so what difference does it make? In that respect, it IS only about political commentator comedias whose audiences will always agree with them.




To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

...so much for "together"...this, instead, weakens us...

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:39 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Quite correct. He is implying that 'real' black people engage in thuggery.


I wonder where he got that idea. Yo, somebody ought to bust a cap in his white ass. Being a white person I assume that means swatting him on his dainty bottom with some sort of hatwear emblazoned with the image of a popular baseball team...ah-eye-t.

One almost has pity for the fool who disrespects President Obama.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I find those statements amazing. I said I found your remarks 'amazing'" Niki2, 2010.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:42 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...


Maher feels more like a political comedian. I don't think anyone on the left follows his show looking for direction.

Whereas Beck, Rush and Hannity - they're out front the carrying the Right's banner and being followed by millions.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:43 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


"I wonder where he got that idea. Yo, somebody ought to bust a cap in his white ass. Being a white person I assume that means swatting him on his dainty bottom with some sort of hatwear emblazoned with the image of a popular baseball team...ah-eye-t."

One almost has pity for the fool who disrespects President Obama.


Great... I just pulled something laughing so hard...

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:45 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Hero, Im totally stealing the phonetic "ah-eye-t"..

Ah-eye-t?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:45 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Maher has a show? Didn't know. Haven't missed anything.

they're out front the carrying the Right's banner and being followed by millions" Damned straight, sadly...no journalism there, just far-right plandering, which gets them audience, which makes them money. Works for them.




To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

...so much for "together"...this, instead, weakens us...

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:58 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I have often enjoyed the Maher show for its 'talk panel' portion, where three guests are invited to discuss various topics with him. Sometimes an additional guest expert is brought in to offer insight. While Maher does his best to direct the guests into delivering his talking points for him, he is frequently stymied by one or more uncooperative participants who present their own point of view. To his credit, he keeps inviting these people back. I suspect he realizes that genuine debate is more interesting than a chorus.

I do not like his extreme anti-religious stance, nor his recent lumping of all Libertarians in with the worst spokespersons of the Tea Party movement. I also hate it when he uses 'Tea Baggers' and other derogatory nicknames. He seems too willing to make generalizations in order to paint his opposition in a bad light. In effect, he is intolerant. The jewel of his show really is the talking panel, where mostly civil debates happen, and despite his best efforts, the 'opposition' representatives actually score a few points.

However, this 'Our president isn't black enough because he does not display the traits of thuggery in his dealings with people' is awful. Not funny. And if done by the anti-Obama crowd, it would have been a very big and bad deal.

I'll add that the additional jokes of people on this very thread are just as bad.

--Anthony


"On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you." --Auraptor

"This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on." --Fremdfirma

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 9:42 AM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Damn Nerf Herders...

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 2:28 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Hero, Im totally stealing the phonetic "ah-eye-t"..

Ah-eye-t?


Stealing back, you mean - first place I heard that one was from georgia rednecks, actually.

-F

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 2:31 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh, btw- for them that don't know, the website cited in the first post of this thread is a GOP front initially registered under the name of a guy who'd been dead for three years prior to that in order to cover their tracks.

But then, the double-speak name prettymuch gives that away up front, doesn't it ?

Still, it's a false-front shill site for a specific party, and as such anything on it should be taken with a rather large grain of salt, if not considered propaganda.

-F

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 2:56 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Hero, Im totally stealing the phonetic "ah-eye-t"..

Ah-eye-t?



If you're going to steal, steal it right.

Say "A light". Now, lose the "L".

A'ight.

See, not that difficult.


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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 4:17 PM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
If your going to steal, steal it right.

Say "A light". Now, lose the "L".

A'ight.

See, not that difficult.


I think your right. I can speak the funk but I can't spell it...

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I find those statements amazing. I said I found your remarks 'amazing'" Niki2, 2010.

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 5:18 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
That, my friends, is bigotry & prejudice, straight up.






"Ahh yes, the standard " RACISM " cry, when ever the Right is out of any legitimate responses.....

Lamest of the lame list."



Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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