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Thursday, July 8, 2010 11:38 AM

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 11:57 AM

AURAPTOR

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Seriously, why so many tests ?




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Thursday, July 8, 2010 12:20 PM

TRAVELER


Maybe after they made a new batch they felt they needed to test a couple. I know that sounds stupid, but I can't imagine any other reason for so many tests. I wonder how many tests were actually for other nations that want there nukes are kept secret?


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Thursday, July 8, 2010 12:30 PM

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Seriously, why so many tests ?





Oh, I almost didn't see the emote. That changes the tone of the post.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 12:55 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


An overwhelming majority of the tests were nothing more than pissing contests, intended to intimidate the Rooskies with the size of our missiles. And they did a lot of it as well.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 1:40 PM

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Don't the commies have the record for setting off the biggest bomb ?

And speaking of setting off nukes, do capping gushing wells or creating man made lakes count for Ivan's total?




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Thursday, July 8, 2010 1:48 PM

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Auraptor,

Huh. Excellent question. Never really thought about it before.


I have to stop and think. That's really a good point. There's no need to test a new nuke, you know how the device works, and it's damn costly. 1000 nukes must've cost us a fortune. Plus, extra fallout over the USA...

I've heard these other arguments and they don't hold water for me. I'm going to toss one out there:

Maybe they were testing something else? Maybe nuclear shielding, like "can this airplane survive a trip through a mushroom cloud? How will it affect this military base?

I'm game to hear any guesses... Rap you want to give it a shot?

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 1:51 PM

AURAPTOR

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Maybe we're secretly at war w/ a race of mole people, and the Govt's of the world are simply using the "Testing" story as a cover ?


Yeah, I bet that's it.




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Thursday, July 8, 2010 2:18 PM

DREAMTROVE


Rap,

I'm dubious, unless Russia is also infested with mole people. Maybe they're trying to become mole people, now that's more likely.



Maybe they were trying to find a way to build a subterranean lair that *wouldn't* collapse... and then unfortunately lease it to OBL ;)

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 2:42 PM

DREAMTROVE


Here's one reason


But that's one. There's something here if we keep digging.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 2:47 PM

AURAPTOR

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Hey... I noticed , early in the video, that it shows Ivan coming in over Canada and then dropping bombs at strategic cities across the U.S.

Not targeted? The " fly over " country in the middle, and nearly the entire Southeast!






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Thursday, July 8, 2010 2:53 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Don't the commies have the record for setting off the biggest bomb ?

And speaking of setting off nukes, do capping gushing wells or creating man made lakes count for Ivan's total?





Tsar Bomba, with a yield of 57 megatons, was set off in 1961. It was the only one built of its kind. The U.S. had the Mk.41, with a speculative yield of 25mt.



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Thursday, July 8, 2010 2:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hey... I noticed , early in the video, that it shows Ivan coming in over Canada and then dropping bombs at strategic cities across the U.S.

Not targeted? The " fly over " country in the middle, and nearly the entire Southeast!






Then it's not accurate. Certainly the missile fields throughout the midwest (they ranged from North Dakota down through Texas) would be Priority One targets, along with several of the NASA/DoD weapons sites in Georgia, Alabama, Tennesee, and Texas.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 3:39 PM

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It's not an accurate portrayal and it's not trying to be. They are looking for recruits. It will be more convincing to people if they think the ruskies are going to nuke their home town then if they think they're going to take out missile silos in the desert.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 3:57 PM

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"Tsar Bomba, with a yield of 57 megatons"

Hello,

The original design was for 100 megatons. We're a remarkable species, aren't we? The fact that such a thing even existed is a black mark against us.

Now, as far as a deterrent, I think it was a brilliant idea that was poorly executed.

The proper delivery system (not explored by the Russians) was the submarine. Not a missile. Not a plane. Just a submarine sitting somewhere off the coast. Waiting. You get the order, and you don't even have to launch. You just say a prayer and turn it on.

Heck, you don't even need the actual bomb on board. Just so long as everyone thinks (including your own men) that all your subs are carrying one, that's enough.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 4:33 PM

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Pfftth, just tell em we have a leftover SLAM aimed at em from a deserted island somewhere.
http://www.merkle.com/pluto/pluto.html

Hands down, THAT thing beats any other atomic nuttery, you ask me.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 4:41 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Frem, Anthony: Agreed.

And yes, the SLAM is one of the most batshit things I'd ever heard of. And the idea that they looked at the idea that it would irradiate and kill people all along its flightpath - those who it didn't deafen and burst their eardrums first! - as a BONUS just speaks to the monstrous minds that thought it up. This had to be the inspiration for Joss's Reaver ships, running without core containment...

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 4:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
An overwhelming majority of the tests were nothing more than pissing contests, intended to intimidate the Rooskies with the size of our missiles. And they did a lot of it as well.

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you know all about pissing contests don't you? You are a golden shower god. Come to me Boy.....come to me! Revel in the slug you little man-hole coverer.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 4:53 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
It's not an accurate portrayal and it's not trying to be. They are looking for recruits. It will be more convincing to people if they think the ruskies are going to nuke their home town then if they think they're going to take out missile silos in the desert.



And it's propaganda in its simplest form, just on the off chance that some Rooskie spy sees it and actually thinks that we DON'T have nukes in the heartland...

I'd quibble with the "missile silos in the desert" thing, though. I've been to the Great Plains; I've lived there. Lots and lots and lots and lots of farmland, but no real desert there. These things were deployed all across North and South Dakota, Missouri, Montana, Wyoming, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado... the very heart of the country, the places where most of our food and meat come from.

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Thursday, July 8, 2010 5:00 PM

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I think nukes are pretty cool. They create a lot of hot air like many of you here.

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Friday, July 9, 2010 2:56 AM

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Mike last time I looked most nukes were in CA AZ NC desert, certainly that's what people were told then...

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Friday, July 9, 2010 3:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


DT, I think that *most* of our nuclear weapons are now aboard submarines... But I know that in the past, there have been large "missile fields" spread across the country. I counted a dozen or so such fields just in the ones that had the Minuteman class deployed, and they included Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, North and South Dakota, Missouri, and other states.

We do - or DID - an awful lot of testing in the deserts of CA, AZ, & NV, but that wasn't the main deployment zone of most such weapons, per my understanding of things. We still do a lot of testing out there, but it's non-nuclear these days.

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