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Kanye West apologizes to Bush

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


"I would tell George Bush in my moment of frustration, I didn't have the grounds to call him a racist."

" I believe that in a situation of high emotion like that we as human beings don't always choose the right words."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/10/kanye-west-apologizes-for_n_7
81655.html


"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."



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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:47 PM

WULFENSTAR

http://youtu.be/VUnGTXRxGHg


Kanye West is a clown.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:53 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Kanye West is a clown.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"



He's a clown who isn't too proud to admit that he was wrong.

Now, if Niki and a boat load of others had half the character as Kanye......



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:54 PM

NIKI2

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Well, my guess is that, given Bush wrote that the SINGLE WORST MOMENT in his Presidency was the remark by West, West felt sorry for the poor bastard and tried to minimize it.

Single worst moment in his Presidency?????

Oh...my...gawd...


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:56 PM

AURAPTOR

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Yes, Niki, the opinion that Bush didn't care would clearly be his worst moment. Particularly when it wasn't true.

And Kanye apologized.

Will you ?

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:59 PM

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The day Niki apologizes for being wrong is the day I will admit that liberals have a valid point.....

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:29 PM

NIKI2

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His worst moment. How about the Iraq war? How about all the young men who died in it? How about Abu Grabe? How about supposedly "finding out" there were no WMD, which he says "sickened" him? What about the country diving into the worst recession in decades? Kayne West saying he didn't care about Black people was the worst, eh?

You've got to be kidding. That says all that needs to be said about George W. Bush. He got his feelings hurt...awwww.


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:39 PM

AURAPTOR

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Niki

I've heard other Libs nut cases spout this bizarre slant that you're trying to do, so it's suspect that these are your own thoughts. Likely, you're just parroting some b.s. spin, from moveon.org, mother jones or some other far Left wing commune outfit.


This had nothing to do w/ Kanye personally, but the...

( and I can not believe I'm having to explain this to a grown woman..a very OLD grown woman, who should know better, but for some reason , doesn't )

...idea that ANYONE could believe that Bush some how didn't CARE enough, and that was the reason those people died in Katrina, or that all those folks working so hard weren't being given any credit for their efforts, even in such a overwhelming situation.

Yes, mistakes were made, and most by the state and local authorities, which only made the Federal support all the less effective.

Kanye sees this now. But not you. You're still clinging to your hating Bush, first and last, simply because he won in 2000, and Gore didn't.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:43 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Y'know, Taylor Swift got over Kanye's outbursts towards her. And she's a girl. And was like 16 when it happened. ;)

Guess Bushie isn't that mature.




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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:44 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Niki

I've heard other Libs nut cases spout this bizarre slant that you're trying to do, so it's suspect that these are your own thoughts. Likely, you're just parroting some b.s. spin, from moveon.org, mother jones or some other far Left wing commune outfit.


This had nothing to do w/ Kanye personally, but the...

( and I can not believe I'm having to explain this to a grown woman..a very OLD grown woman, who should know better, but for some reason , doesn't )

...idea that ANYONE could believe that Bush some how didn't CARE enough, and that was the reason those people died in Katrina, or that all those folks working so hard weren't being given any credit for their efforts, even in such a overwhelming situation.

Yes, mistakes were made, and most by the state and local authorities, which only made the Federal support all the less effective.

Kanye sees this now. But not you. You're still clinging to your hating Bush, first and last, simply because he won in 2000, and Gore didn't.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."





You really should go back and read your posts about Obama and the oil spill. Really.

And I'm sure you'll be right back with your apology to the President. ;)


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:48 PM

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No apology for Barry. In fact, the record shows that he was incompetent, lied, and dismissive of the needs of the people of Louisiana. If anything, Kanye was talking about Obama, and not Bush.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:52 PM

NIKI2

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Yes, there's the oil spill and how you blamed Obama singly for everything wrong about it.
Quote:

Yes, mistakes were made, and most by the state and local authorities, which only made the Federal support all the less effective.
Pot calling kettle...?
Quote:

No apology for Barry. In fact, the record shows that he was incompetent, lied, and dismissive of the needs of the people of Louisiana.
My gawd, the determined, rampant, partisan blindness!! It boggles the mind.

But far, far beyond that...you truly think Kayne West saying that should be the single worst moment in his Presidency? You don't think 9/11 might have been in the running? Or the suffering of the people in Katrina??? You can bullshit and diss me all you want, but if you truly believe that should have been the "single worst" moment of his Presidency, there's no hope for you.

Like I said, "idea that ANYONE could believe that Bush some how didn't CARE enough", in other words, the idea that people thought badly of him, as completely encompassed (?) by one person's remark, hurt his feelings...

But seriously: the terrorist attacks of 9/11 don't rank to you??? If you were Prez and looked back, you wouldn't consider that the "single worst" moment you endured???? Insteac you'd pick a crack by a comedian??

'Nuff said. I have better things to do.


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:01 PM

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Quote:

'Nuff said. I have better things to do.


Were it true, that you'd stop yammering away and posting, or that you have better things to do.

Never thought I'd live to see the day where Kanye West proved to be a bigger person than - well, ANYONE, but today's the day.

Kanye > Niki


Let that sit for a while as you think about it.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

'Nuff said. I have better things to do.


Were it true, that you'd stop yammering away and posting, or that you have better things to do.

Never thought I'd live to see the day where Kanye West proved to be a bigger person than - well, ANYONE, but today's the day.

Kanye > Niki


Let that sit for a while as you think about it.





And how many times have you claimed that we're all not worthy of you speaking with us? Yet you continue to keep posting your garbage, day after day after day.

Well, except for the blessed few months when I ran your ass out of here. That was a really good time. ;)

Kanye > Rappy.


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:09 PM

KANEMAN


Fuck these idiots for taking Bush LITTER-ally...You know what he meant...that was an American saying the opposite of what Bush felt. had to hurt.

Now, I say what I said before..fuck that stupid nigger. Rap away, Whore out expensive sneakers to the other poor niggers that should spend money more wise-GeneralLEE, live in a suburb and keep on acting street.....I laugh at the plight of the blackman, 'cause it is the other nigger that is his parasite....


STORMFRONT STORMFRONT STORMFRONT STORMFRONT.....



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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:17 PM

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"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:21 PM

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"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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kwickie....

The display of stupid by you and your cohorts was enough to run anyone out. Yet I adapted, over came and persevered

Me > You

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And I never quit and ran out of here crying like a little bitch, which you most certainly did.

Me > You.

So go cry some more, ya big baby.




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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:42 PM

KANEMAN


Did you just post a baby crying? To call Au a baby.....LOL you gays are Hilarious...Any other pics of crying babies? ROFL

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:47 PM

WHOZIT


When Olbermann returned last night and said he was sorry. Someday he's going to set himself on fire, and then I will smile.....and he's stupid.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:04 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:






Still don't know why you posted a pic of yourself, after getting your azz kicked, again, by me.

Kinda like why Mal named his ship Serenity ? You want to remind yourself of that all consuming , humiliating defeat ?

Might want to watch the series again. I think ya missed some key points.

Loser.

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=38474#707439


Here's you, throwing a shit-fit and running away like the coward we've always known you to be.




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Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:35 AM

AURAPTOR

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I'm still here, proving you wrong, and you're still the petty little troll you've always been.

Be proud, little one. Very proud.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:44 AM

NIKI2

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Almost amusing:
Quote:

To call Au a baby.....
Let's see, how often do Raptor, Wulf and YOU call people here babies??? Oh, right now:
Quote:

Be proud, little one


This one degenerated I see, too.

As to
Quote:

Were it true, that you'd stop yammering away and posting, or that you have better things to do.
I DO leave and do better things; I only allow myself to come here in the morning, the vast majority of the time, then get on with my life and don't come back until the next day, to see if anything sensible has been posted in the meantime.

You were here TWELVE HOURS later. Kinda says what "better" things you have to do.

Okay, here comes the silly snark. Wait of it...


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Meanwhile, Bush's inaction and deer-in-the-headlights look when warned of the consequences of inaction caused the deaths of over 1800 people in New Orleans.

And HE wants an apology.



I'm sure he and his family still think things worked out very well for the people down there...


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:58 PM

AURAPTOR

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Kanye West to Bush -

" I'm sorry "



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:18 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Kanye West to Bush -

" I'm sorry "



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."





LOL...do you ever get sick of clowning that dude?

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Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Kanye West to Bush -

" I'm sorry "





Never happened.


Bush should apologize to the whole freaking world. Maybe he'll do so at his war crimes trial. ;)


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... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Kanye West apologizes to Bush

Why do I feel like I've just been texted by my bff over some omg spat at a party? Is this whole topic incredibly lame, or what?

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Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:55 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And then Bushie gets it completely wrong, and refers to him as "Conway".

Stupid fucking idiot.


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... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:05 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Kanye West to Bush -

" I'm sorry "





Never happened.


Bush should apologize to the whole freaking world. Maybe he'll do so at his war crimes trial. ;)



http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/11/11/2010-11-11_matt_lauer_def
ends_kanye_west_bush_apology_interview_on_today_after_west_goes_on.html


Actually, what Kanye said was...

" In my moment of frustration.. that I didn't have the grounds to call him ( Bush ) a racist. "

- pause -

Lauer: " And... You're sorry "


West: " Yeah...I'm sorry for the .. "

- pause -

Lauer: " I think I get the point "

Man, do you EVER get tired of being wrong, over and over and over again ?

West said , to Bush, that he was sorry. Sorry for calling him a racist, when Kanye now believes it was wrong to do so. For that, he's sorry.

Doesn't mean he likes how Bush handled the post-Katrina response, or that he'll donate to the GWB Library Fund, but for falsely accusing Bush of being that which he clearly isn't.

( Kinda like what others have done , right here on this forum. Huh. )

And, again, for the record, Bush clearly explains that it wasn't JUST what Kanye said, but the over all sentiment that Bush some how didn't care. Completely false, of course.

Also, Bush accepted Kanye's apology. As it should be.

" I'm not a hater " - W

Word, Prez!


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


From your very own cite in the first post of this thread:

Quote:

"I would tell George Bush in my moment of frustration, I didn't have the grounds to call him a racist," he told Matt Lauer on Tuesday, for a pre-taped segment of 'Today.' "I believe that in a situation of high emotion like that we as human beings don't always choose the right words."



No mention anywhere in the whole article of any "I'm sorry" said to Bush.

NOW you claim he said it to Lauer. But your own cite for that doesn't mention it at all.




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... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh twaddle! Kwicko. How dare you intrude with evidence and reality into the little boy's snickerfest.

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Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:50 PM

AURAPTOR

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Watch the video, moron.

I posted the quotes, so you could follow along.

Man, want me to wipe your arse too ? Is there ANYTHING you can do for yourself ?




WAAAAAAAHHH !!! It's not there! I can't find it!!



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:59 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Watch the video, moron.

I posted the quotes, so you could follow along.

Man, want me to wipe your arse too ? Is there ANYTHING you can do for yourself ?



WAAAAAAAHHH !!! It's not there! I can't find it!!





Hey, look at all those pictures of you!

Why are you always crying in all your pix?



Nah, I don't need to watch your little video. You go do your own homework. ;)


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Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:03 PM

AURAPTOR

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Those are pics of you and your whiny cohorts.

And I've already done YOUR homework for you, brainless.

Made a liar out of you, I did, too.

Well, at least showed what a moron are you. Again.

But that wasn't hard.



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Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:09 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You're lying.

Never happened.

Now quit crying.


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Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I'm laughing....and you're the joke !

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Friday, November 12, 2010 7:47 AM

OPPYH



Hate to say this Rappy, but it wasn't a heartfelt apology. It was an effort to get more attention/focus on himself, which he most certainly did. Especially followed by his reaction to the interview with Matt Lauer. He Tweeted angry messages about the interview with Matt...which now is getting more press than his supposed "apology". He's a smart dude. If you act like a big enough asshole, you will stay in the spotlight.

Regarding calling Bush a racist:
"I didn't know my words are so powerful, that they would stop the internet".

Ahh, Kanye West the modesty he displays is truly humbling.





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Friday, November 12, 2010 9:07 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Not watching your video. Been there, done that. Remember, you're the guy who has been taken in by edited/untrue video time and time again, and posted it here as "fact".

Hank Johnson & Guam "tipping over" - you thought that was for real, and never once offered the Congressman an apology, even after you were shown conclusively to be dead wrong.

Shirly Sherrod.

ACORN.

SEIU.

"Mystery Missiles"

Kanye's "apology".

Pardon me if I don't just take your - or your bullshit video's - word for it.


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Friday, November 12, 2010 9:28 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Well, my take is that from watching the video is that it was a "gotcha" interview, that the guy kept trying to put "I'm sorry" into Kanye's mouth. And no, he didn't apologize; I took from it that he was trying to find the words to express that he DID feel there was an inequality in how Katrina was handled, and that more attention might have been paid if it were a white population, but that to call Bush specifically a "racist" was wrong, in that he couldn't know that. In other words, that the GOVERNMENT had behaved in a bigoted way, but to put it on Bush specifically by calling him racist was a poor choice of words. And that his remark grew out of anger and frustration about the situation and wasn't well thought out.

I didn't get all that he was convinced Bush wasn't racist, only that he was taking responsibility for his choice of words.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




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Friday, November 12, 2010 9:31 AM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:



" In my moment of frustration.. that I didn't have the grounds to call him ( Bush ) a racist. "

- pause -

Lauer: " And... You're sorry "


West: " Yeah...I'm sorry for the .. "

- pause -

Lauer: " I think I get the point "





"I'm sorry for the..."

unfinished. He never, not once apologizes to Bush. He empathizes with the president, but does not apologize directly to him. Most of that was Lauer putting words in his mouth. He was trying like hellfire to get an apology....and ALMOST got one.

Big difference.

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Friday, November 12, 2010 9:33 AM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Well, my take is that from watching the video is that it was a "gotcha" interview, that the guy kept trying to put "I'm sorry" into Kanye's mouth. And no, he didn't apologize; I took from it that he was trying to find the words to express that he DID feel there was an inequality in how Katrina was handled, and that more attention might have been paid if it were a white population, but that to call Bush specifically a "racist" was wrong, in that he couldn't know that. In other words, that the GOVERNMENT had behaved in a bigoted way, but to put it on Bush specifically by calling him racist was a poor choice of words. And that his remark grew out of anger and frustration about the situation and wasn't well thought out.

I didn't get all that he was convinced Bush wasn't racist, only that he was taking responsibility for his choice of words.




Thank you Nikki. The voice of reason has spoken.

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Friday, November 12, 2010 9:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Made a liar out of you, I did, too.






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Friday, November 12, 2010 12:18 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by OPPYH:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:



" In my moment of frustration.. that I didn't have the grounds to call him ( Bush ) a racist. "

- pause -

Lauer: " And... You're sorry "


West: " Yeah...I'm sorry for the .. "

- pause -

Lauer: " I think I get the point "





"I'm sorry for the..."

unfinished. He never, not once apologizes to Bush. He empathizes with the president, but does not apologize directly to him. Most of that was Lauer putting words in his mouth. He was trying like hellfire to get an apology....and ALMOST got one.

Big difference.

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Yup, that was my point. Rappy likes to claim that "Bush never lied" and hangs that on a whole lot of basic technicalities, like it's not *really* a lie if he didn't KNOW it was untrue when he said it, or it's not a lie if you BELIEVE it, etc. (By the way, Rap, I *believe* you're a racist. Am I lying?)

So I wanted to hold him to the same standards he sets out for others. Kanye never apologized TO Bush FOR calling Bush a racist (and he never actually called Bush a "racist", either; he said "George Bush doesn't care about black people.")



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Friday, November 12, 2010 12:24 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
From your very own cite in the first post of this thread:

Quote:

"I would tell George Bush in my moment of frustration, I didn't have the grounds to call him a racist," he told Matt Lauer on Tuesday, for a pre-taped segment of 'Today.' "I believe that in a situation of high emotion like that we as human beings don't always choose the right words."



No mention anywhere in the whole article of any "I'm sorry" said to Bush.

NOW you claim he said it to Lauer. But your own cite for that doesn't mention it at all.




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... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





That monkey can't say "I'm sorry"...he did the next best thing...which all blacks do...in ebonics it means the same thing....

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Friday, November 12, 2010 1:31 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Seems everybody is in agreement that Kanye didn't apologize to Bush.

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Friday, November 12, 2010 5:06 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Abu Grabe?


Sorry, this one stopped me in my tracks. It was worthy of Wulf, not to nitpick...

Moving on.

Kanye West is a disciple of Robert Greene's cult of 48 laws of power. Neither of his "outburst" incidents should be taken out of that context as if it never existed.

Taylor Swift did not "Forgive" Kanye, she defeated him. She figured out how the game of 48 laws works, and beat him at it. Clever girl.

Bush is not clever, and probably never heard of 48 laws of power. He's a simpleton, and his feelings were hurt. The man is not a racist, it's the one thing that I noticed very early on, as almost the singular character flaw that he did not possess. Okay, he wasn't a philanderer either.

Kanye is unhappy presently because he is not the center of attention. Bush unwittingly gave him a chance to be, but he blew this interview.

It's not that George Bush doesn't care about black people, or doesn't care about people, it's that he has no idea how to solve people's problems. He's put in charge of them, and then gets advice from an incredibly corrupt crowd of cronies, and the result is a heckuva job. But it's not ill intent, I feel fairly confident in that.

The man has some deep deep character flaws, but these are not they.

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Friday, November 12, 2010 5:38 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Quote:

Abu Grabe?


Sorry, this one stopped me in my tracks. It was worthy of Wulf, not to nitpick...



Abu Ghraib is the correct spelling, I believe.

Quote:


Moving on.

Kanye West is a disciple of Robert Greene's cult of 48 laws of power. Neither of his "outburst" incidents should be taken out of that context as if it never existed.

Taylor west did not "Forgive" Kanye, she defeated him. She figured out how the game of 48 laws works, and beat him at it. Clever girl.



Taylor *SWIFT*, Wulfie. ;) [/kidding]

Quote:


Bush is not clever, and probably never heard of 48 laws of power. He's a simpleton, and his feelings were hurt. The man is not a racist, it's the one thing that I noticed very early on, as almost the singular character flaw that he did not possess. Okay, he wasn't a philanderer either.

Kanye is unhappy presently because he is not the center of attention. Bush unwittingly gave him a chance to be, but he blew this interview.



Agreed. Ish, anyway. Agreed-ish. :D Yes, that's not a word. Or even a phrase or term. But it is now. Call it a Buffyism, because I could hear Buffy saying it. Or Wash.

Quote:


It's not that George Bush doesn't care about black people, or doesn't care about people, it's that he has no idea how to solve people's problems. He's put in charge of them, and then gets advice from an incredibly corrupt crowd of cronies, and the result is a heckuva job. But it's not ill intent, I feel fairly confident in that.

The man has some deep deep character flaws, but these are not they.



But they tend to have the same result (result = people dying in droves).

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