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Newt Gingrich, Tyrant.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




Newt's own tweet:

Quote:

"We Americans need to find solutions together and insist upon imposing those solutions on those forces that don't want to change."


Isn't this exactly what the right wing bitches about the most, people trying to "impose" their "solutions" on others?

What with his attack on Ryan's plan to destroy Medicare, and his defense of Obama and healthcare mandates, and now his clear embracing of big, forceful, over-stepping government... Is Newt running for the Republican nomination, or is he trying to run on what he thinks progressives want (Hint: They aren't voting for you either, Mr. McPherson!)


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill


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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:23 PM

DREAMTROVE


Mike,

This is pretty much the globalist line lately, it's just about exactly what Obama said before invading Libya, and yes, sure, Newt is a globalist, he's part of the team.

Sometimes any globalist might have a good idea, but I honestly wouldn't want any of them in charge. They tend to be of the mind that they have the brains and random peasants don't know what's good for them.

Newt isn't really serious about running, he's trying to shape the dialogue. If he ran, he'd be handing it to Obama, but I suspect Obama doesn't need the help. Doesn't matter anyway. TPTB have a way of getting their way.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:36 PM

HARDWARE


WASF.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Hardware:
WASF.



We Are So Fucked?


Pretty much. I was kinda hoping some progressive would run against Obama. Didn't expect it to be Newt.

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Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:34 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




Quote:

"We Americans need to find solutions together and insist upon imposing those solutions on those forces that don't want to change."


Gee Newt, that kinda sounds like some sort of social engineering , on a Federal scale.

Don't we get to vote on this stuff?

Yeah? Guess which way I'm votin', Newt.





" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:32 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Pretty much. I was kinda hoping some progressive would run against Obama. Didn't expect it to be Newt.



lol. Huh. Agreement (uh oh?) Hope for Ron Paul and then resign yourself to four more years.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:49 AM

HARDWARE


There's no way Newt is getting the women's vote. He left wife number 1 right after she found out she had breast cancer. He left wife number 2 right after she found out she had MS.

He's deluding himself if he thinks he's a viable candidate. At best he pulls a Joe Biden and gets in as the VP.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:19 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I definitely don't want to vote for Newt. He's been around forever and he's more of the same, plus his marital dalliances.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:43 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
... it's just about exactly what Obama said before invading Libya,...



Wait... how many troops do we have there?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Yesterday someone took a page out of comedian Eddie Gosling's book, and "glitter bombed" the slimy old Newt.



Harmless, yet hilarious. It should be done to more politicians. It causes no harm at all, just leaves you with glitter all over you for the rest of the day!

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:53 AM

CUDA77

Like woman, I am a mystery.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yesterday someone took a page out of comedian Eddie Gosling's book, and "glitter bombed" the slimy old Newt.



Harmless, yet hilarious. It should be done to more politicians. It causes no harm at all, just leaves you with glitter all over you for the rest of the day!



Any time I'm feeling despondent about living in the state that has introduced the rest of the county to Michele Bachmann, I can now just watch that clip and remember how great the people living in my home state are.

That's that "new gay" that Jason Jones talked about on The Daily Show a couple weeks ago in action.

Socialist and unashamed about it.


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Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:05 PM

BYTEMITE


...Wait, Newt Gingrich is a vampire? And not even one of the intimidating old school ones, but one of those newfangled idealized abusive romance story vampires?

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:18 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



What 'hate' does Newt promote, exactly ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:33 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

What 'hate' does Newt promote, exactly ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Uh... you asking that of anyone in particular, or just throwing a straw man out there to see what happens?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


By the way, I think this is where the guy got the idea to glitter Newt:

http://comedians.jokes.com/eddie-gossling/videos/eddie-gossling---quit
ting
/

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Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

What 'hate' does Newt promote, exactly ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "



Uh... you asking that of anyone in particular, or just throwing a straw man out there to see what happens?



Per the video, and what the glitter man shouted at Newt.

Try to keep up.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, May 21, 2011 12:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


CNN reveals that Newt has had "past discretions". That means they actually think there have been a few times in his past where Newt has actually displayed sound judgement. That IS a scoop!

http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/newt.jpeg

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Friday, May 27, 2011 6:56 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


Newt's own tweet:

Quote:

"We Americans need to find solutions together and insist upon imposing those solutions on those forces that don't want to change."


Isn't this exactly what the right wing bitches about the most, people trying to "impose" their "solutions" on others?

What with his attack on Ryan's plan to destroy Medicare, and his defense of Obama and healthcare mandates, and now his clear embracing of big, forceful, over-stepping government... Is Newt running for the Republican nomination, or is he trying to run on what he thinks progressives want (Hint: They aren't voting for you either, Mr. McPherson!)


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill





Ya, but Newt is a neo-con cunt...we are trying to change the party.

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Friday, May 27, 2011 6:59 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Cuda77:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yesterday someone took a page out of comedian Eddie Gosling's book, and "glitter bombed" the slimy old Newt.



Harmless, yet hilarious. It should be done to more politicians. It causes no harm at all, just leaves you with glitter all over you for the rest of the day!



Any time I'm feeling despondent about living in the state that has introduced the rest of the county to Michele Bachmann, I can now just watch that clip and remember how great the people living in my home state are.

That's that "new gay" that Jason Jones talked about on The Daily Show a couple weeks ago in action.

Socialist and unashamed about it.





Is it just me? Or did that chick in red not bat an eye....lol

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Friday, May 27, 2011 3:10 PM

DREAMTROVE


I've been following newt lately, and he's been pretty on message, so i began to suspect that this was taken out of context. It's poor wording, and newt sometimes says dumb things, but this is clear not a reference to social engineering. He means the american voters should vote out a small entrenched elite, (that he, himself, may be a part of)

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54780.html


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Friday, May 27, 2011 3:21 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


DT, sometimes it scares me how out of touch you can be. Newt is "on message"? Seriously?

He's against Ryan's plan, then he's for it, then he's not sure, then it's social engineering, which he's both for and against on days ending with a "Y", etc., etc. He's "on message" only when he's flip-flopping on his messages!

The GOP itself doesn't have a coherent message (nothing new there). 80% of the American people don't want Medicare abolished, but woe be unto any GOP-bagger who says they'd not vote to kill it. John Boehner himself credits the issue with costing the GOP the NY-26 race.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, May 27, 2011 4:08 PM

DMAANLILEILTT


I like how clever you are with the names for your seats: New York 26. Where do you get your ideas from?

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Friday, May 27, 2011 4:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
I like how clever you are with the names for your seats: New York 26. Where do you get your ideas from?

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"



From the fact that it's the 26th Congressional District of the State of New York?


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Monday, May 30, 2011 11:12 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Did he really, truly, actually not GET that??? Wow.

When mentioning Newt's flip-flopping, don't forget Libya, which he thought we should go crashing into at first, then "wouldn't have gone in" later. Jon Stewart called him "McCain lite", and that's right on. Another old man desperate for his last chance at the gold ring. Pathetic.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Monday, May 30, 2011 11:27 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Raptor: "What 'hate' does Newt promote, exactly ?"

Try these:
Quote:

The modern Republican Party openly makes alliances with ugly, bigoted hate groups; it’s become so commonplace that no one even notices any more. Case in point: serial philanderer Newt Gingrich’s work with the disgusting far right American Family Association to deprive gay Americans of rights: Gingrich Said to Funnel $125K Via Hate Group to Punish Iowa Justices.

A nonprofit group led by former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich channeled $125,000 through a hard-line anti-gay organization to support a 2010 campaign to oust three Iowa Supreme Court justices who voted to legalize same-sex marriage in that state, The Associated Press (AP) reported Tuesday. The donation to the American Family Association (AFA), which was designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) earlier this year, was part of a total of $350,000 Gingrich reportedly helped steer to Iowa for Freedom, which led the successful campaign against the justices, the only ones on the court who were up for reelection.

The SPLC lists AFA as a hate group principally because of its regular use of false propaganda to demonize gays and lesbians. Especially remarkable are the views expressed by Bryan Fischer, its shrill director of issue analysis for government and policy. Fischer has proposed criminalizing homosexual behavior, advocated forcing gays into “reparative” therapy, and claimed gays were responsible for the Holocaust.

The story of Gingrich’s below-the-radar assistance to Iowa for Freedom started to dribble out on March 3, when The Los Angeles Times reported that Gingrich helped the organization get its start, offering strategic advice and arranging a $200,000 gift from an anonymous donor. The remaining $150,000, the AP reported, was raised in the form of donations to Renewing American Leadership (ReAL), a nonprofit group Gingrich founded that promotes his books, TV appearances, and films. It was ReAL Action, an arm of ReAL, that reportedly gave $125,000 of that $150,000 to AFA Action, the political wing of AFA. The final $25,000 was given by ReAL Action to Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition. Both AFA Action and Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition then supported Iowa for Freedom’s efforts, the AP said.

The assistance turned out to critical. The campaign to force the Iowa judges out “wouldn’t have happened without Newt,” David Lane, executive director of Iowa for Freedom, told the Los Angeles Times. “Newt provided strategic advice and the initial seed money, about $200,000, which is what got everything started.”

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38268_Newt_Gingrich_Funnels_$1
25K_Through_Hate_Group_to_Punish_Iowa_Justices


Or try
Quote:

This evening, Gingrich and fellow presidential aspirant Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) will headline a Minneapolis fundraiser for the Minnesota Family Council (MFC), a Twin Cities-based conservative Christian organization that's bankrolling the effort to ban gay marriage in the state, and whose president has written that gay teens who commit suicide brought it upon themselves.

One of the group's leaders has suggested that anti-gay organizations should be proud to be labeled "hate groups." In an interview last December with Peter LaBarbera of the anti-gay group Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, MFC research analyst Barb Anderson urged him to embrace the fact that the Southern Poverty Law Center had designated his outfit a "hate group." "I think it's becoming perhaps a badge of honor to be called a hate group," she said. Anderson went on to describe the "radical homosexual agenda" as "the greatest threat to our freedom and to the health and well being of our children."

But MFC's most chilling comments concern the recent surge in suicides by LGBT teens.

MFC president Tom Prichard argued in a post on the group's blog that the recent spate of suicides by gay teen were tragic, but also the natural consequence of an unhealthy and immoral lifestyle decision. His post came after the death of Justin Aaberg, an openly gay 15-year-old from the suburban Twin Cities area who hanged himself last summer—one of three gay teens at his high school to commit suicide in the past year. Aaberg's death was unfortunate, Prichard said, but was being manipulated by the all-powerful gay lobby.

"Youth who embrace homosexuality are at greater risk [of suicide], because they've embraced an unhealthy sexual identity and lifestyle," Prichard wrote. "These alternative sexual identifications or lifestyles deny the reality that we are created male and female. To live or try to live in conflict with how we are made will invariably cause problems, e.g. emotional, psychological and social. Denying or fighting against this reality is the reason alternative forms of sexual expression, whether homosexual or heterosexual, will put people at greater risk [of suicide]."

Prichard—who also alleged that the brutal murder of Matthew Sheperd, who was gay, in Laramie, Wyoming, was not a hate crime—conceded that he would likely be "accused of being unloving, unhateful, etc." for his efforts to “save” the gay community.

Although they play two distinct roles within the Republican party—Gingrich the elder statesman, Bachmann the rogue insurgent—the two presidential aspirants have a shared history of anti-gay rhetoric. Gingrich has alleged that the United States is under assault from a "gay and secular fascism". In addition to gays, Gingrich has also said that the nation is under assault from Muslims, atheists, socialists, Kenyan anti-colonialists, and the ACLU.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/05/bachmann-gingrich-addressing-anti-
gay-hate-group


That enough hate-mongering for you? Probably not...you probably think he's right. Takes one to know one, or somesuch...

That last was the event, by the way, where he was “glittered”.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Monday, May 30, 2011 6:31 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Niki, I think D-Man is from another country - Australia or Great Britain, if memory serves. I think he just didn't know where we come up with things like NY-26 and the like, rather than calling him the representative from Shaftesbury or Sussex. So it's a fair question.

Now we find out why Newt didn't want to talk about his half-million-dollar interest-free "frugal" account at Tiffany's: Turns out one of his ex-staffers is a registered lobbyist for Tiffany's.

I'm sure that's all just a coincidence, though.

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Monday, May 30, 2011 7:04 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Niki, I think D-Man is from another country - Australia or Great Britain, if memory serves. I think he just didn't know where we come up with things like NY-26 and the like, rather than calling him the representative from Shaftesbury or Sussex. So it's a fair question.

Now we find out why Newt didn't want to talk about his half-million-dollar interest-free "frugal" account at Tiffany's: Turns out one of his ex-staffers is a registered lobbyist for Tiffany's.

I'm sure that's all just a coincidence, though.



Newt is an establishment whore...has always been. Why the surprise and outrage? It is as if you finally realized Dr. Seuss rhymes a lot...and being outraged by it...ya know?

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