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Saturday, August 13, 2011 3:55 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


...barely.

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2011 Straw Poll Full Results (Votes, %)
1. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (4823, 28.55%)
2. Congressman Ron Paul (4671, 27.65%)
3. Governor Tim Pawlenty (2293, 13.57%)
4. Senator Rick Santorum (1657, 9.81%)
5. Herman Cain(1456, 8.62%)
6. Governor Rick Perry (718, 3.62%) write-in
7. Governor Mitt Romney (567, 3.36%)
8. Speaker Newt Gingrich (385, 2.28%)
9. Governor Jon Huntsman (69, 0.41%)
10. Congressman Thad McCotter (35, 0.21%)
Scattering (162, 0.96 %) Includes all those receiving votes at less than one-percent that were not on the ballot.



Based on the media attention, I'm surprised (and pleased) that Gov. Perry didn't do better.


"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:13 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And she celebrates by posing for yet another unfortunate picture...



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:54 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
10. Congressman Thad McCotter (35, 0.21%)


*laughing*
Ah yes, ole Thadpole is a little pissed off right now, since when he threw in with the DeVos-Prince-Holland crowd, they sold him this song and dance about how much support they could generate, which turned out to be as delusional as anything else that particular pack of seriously-cultish "true believers" has invested in.

Not to mention any support he has HERE kinda went the way of the dodo bird once he threw in with them, since everyone outside their little cult knows how crazy they are.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:01 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And she celebrates by posing for yet another unfortunate picture...





Well I'm impressed. Who knew she was so capable!








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Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
And she celebrates by posing for yet another unfortunate picture...





Well I'm impressed. Who knew she was so capable!





Apparently her husband taught her everything he knows...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:22 AM

PENGUIN


Damn, beat me to it!



The straw poll means nothing. Romney won the last one in 2008 and Huckabee won the caucus.





King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Well I'm impressed. Who knew she was so capable!



She's got my vote !




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:55 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Well, we did kinda know her mouth was that big...

I, too, am gratified Perry didn't rank higher...knowing about his affiliations with that "church" (I use the term loosely) and their intentions, he kinda scares me.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:16 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


So Ron Paul won another poll, and the Media Mafiya censored the results, again.



Michele Bachmann's job is infiltration of the Tea Party to overthrow USA for the Jew World Odor banksters at the private foreign "Federal" Reserve Bank that counterfeits all so-called "US dollar bills" (Federal Reserve Debt Notes) and keeps (steals) 100% of federal income taxes. There is no law requiring payment of income tax, since that law would be unconstitutional. All unconstitutional "laws" are void from inception, according to the US Supreme Court. Bachmann lived in Israel and hates Arab Semites and hates Christian Semites.


Michele Bachmann Endorsement of Anti-Tea Party Candidates Sparks Tea Party Fury
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/28/michele-bachmanns-roy-blu_n_6
62239.html



Bachmann Drops Out of Tea Party Convention
http://www.newser.com/story/79558/bachmann-drops-out-of-tea-party-conv
ention.html



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Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:09 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




Ms. Bachmann warming up for her meeting with the Koch brothers.

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Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Hubby showing her how it's done:


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Sunday, August 14, 2011 12:06 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




THE IOWA STRAW POLL MYSTERY

http://www.federaljack.com/?p=96347

The official number of votes counted in the 2011 Iowa Straw Poll is 16,892. The general breakdown of the total is as follows:

4823 – Michelle Bachmann
4671 – Ron Paul
2293 – Pawlenty
1657 – Santorum
1456 – Cain
718 – Perry
567 – Romney
385 – Gingrich
69 – Huntsman
35 – McCotter

Ok, so let’s add up the votes (4823 + 4671 + 2293 + 1657 + 1456 + 718 + 567 + 385 + 69 +35 = 16,674).

But wait a minute, the total votes counted were 16,892 right? So, of the total votes counted in the Iowa Straw Poll amounting to 16,892. The ten candidates listed above garnered 16,674. Well that leaves 218 votes unaccounted for.

So where did the remaining 218 votes go?

MSNBC has reported that the 218 is actually only 162 votes that are a “scattering” of ballots for candidates receiving less than one percent of the votes. Ok, fine, so who are these candidates? In addition, if as MSNBC is reporting it is only 162 and not 218, then where did the other 56 votes go? Hey! Let’s confuse the public even more!

Source: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/13/7366544-bachmann-wins-
ames-straw-poll


Let’s move on shall we?

FOX News and most other news outlets seem to have solved this mystery. Instead of accuracy in reporting, they simply resort to saying, “Bachmann received 28 percent of the nearly 17,000 votes cast.” No need to count the votes, just say “nearly 17,000″.

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/13/finally-here-ames-straw-pol
l-first-test-2012/#ixzz1UxkpX8nE


To be very clear, Congressman Ron Paul and Senator Michele Bachmann only had 152 votes difference in the Straw Poll.

Bachmann wins by 152 votes, meanwhile 218 votes seem to be unaccounted for publicly. While I am sure there is a very good reason for the missing votes, this is precisely what causes distrust of government and the media.

One other mystery is why media outlets seem to erase Ron Paul from most headlines and instead replace him with Rick Perry.

Two good examples are the Washington Post who have an article posted entitled, “Bachmann wins Iowa straw poll as Perry jumps in” just below the title is a photo of Ron Paul.

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bachmann-wins-iowa-straw-poll-a
s-perry-jumps-in/2011/08/13/gIQAvYewDJ_story.html?hpid=z1


Another one is from Salon with an article entitled, “Let the fight for the right begin” just below the title is a photo of Bachmann and Rick Perry, then below the photo the article begins with, “Technically, the margin of victory for Michele Bachmann at Saturday’s Iowa straw poll was slight, with second-place finisher Ron Paul falling just 152 votes (or 0.9 percentage points) short of her tally. But everyone knows that Paul is a niche candidate.”

Source: http://www.salon.com/news/2012_elections/?story=/politics/war_room/201
1/08/13/iowa_straw_poll


In closing I suppose we have two mysteries.

1. Where are the 218 unaccounted for votes?
2. Why are media outlets replacing Ron Paul’s second place victory with Rick Perry?

I am sure you all have answers, feel free to comment in.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/08/13/ron-paul-wins-historic-vote-tota
l-in-ames-straw-poll
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Debate Question: Did you have sex with that corndog?
Michele Bachman: Depends on what the definition of is is.

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Monday, August 15, 2011 6:19 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Quote:

"The 'Media' doesn’t believe Ron Paul has a hoot in hells chance of winning the Iowa caucuses, the Republican nomination or winning the presidency, so we’re gonna ignore him.”
-Jew Roger Simon, Politico, CNN, protecting the jewish "Federal" Reserve Bank

“We are in the business of kicking candidates out of the race."
-Jew Howard Kurtz, CNN host, protecting the jewish "Federal" Reserve Bank

Jewish www.infowars.com/establishment-media-admits-conspiracy-to-ignore-ron-p
aul
/



Bachmann Rigged Iowa Poll by Buying "At Least" 4000 Votes

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann is being called the "Queen of the Straw Poll" after her victory at the Iowa straw poll yesterday for the GOP presidential nomination.

Bachmann, who finished with 4823 votes, narrowly beat second-place finisher Congressman Ron Paul who collected 4671 votes.

The Ames poll, although important because of the early significance of Iowa in the primaries, is nonbinding and unscientific.

AFP reported that "It has been criticized as playing too heavily in favor of candidates that are well financed, since their campaigns can buy the $30 tickets for their supporters to attend and presumably vote in their favor."

The Ames event was considered to be a Republican fundraiser, yet Bachmann's campaign bought and "handed out at least 4,000 free tickets to supporters."

Therefore, Bachmann appears to have rigged the vote at a minimum direct cost of $120,000 to her campaign. It's unclear whether any of the other candidates engaged in this same behavior.

Another anomaly with the vote surfaced this morning when it was discovered that 218 votes went unaccounted for. In other words, these votes were in the overall tally but not registered to any of the candidates.

One would think the media would attempt to uncover the discrepancy given the razor thin 152-vote margin between Bachmann and Paul. However, so far, they've been content to call her the "queen" of the event.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/08/bachmann-rigged-ames-poll-by-buyin
g.html




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Often cited as a reliable, reputable news source, Reuters is in actuality nothing more than another den of duplicity bought and paid for by the corporate financiers ruling/ruining Western civilization. Their latest article titled, “Bachmann and Perry – a beautiful 2012 rivalry” sidelines reality according to the globalist script so soundly you can almost hear the noses of Reuters editors’ growing. The GOP Iowa debate saw Ron Paul annihilate the competition with counts showing him as far as three times further ahead of the next runner-up Newt Gingrich. However, the final tally of the Iowa straw poll saw establishment footstool Michele Bachmann eke out Ron Paul by a mere 152 votes. Despite the closeness of the race and the immense political ramifications of a candidate labeled by the corporate media as part of “fringe politics” finishing neck-to-neck with the insincere Bachmann, Reuters decided to write about Rick Perry’s insignificant, meaningless, though establishment approved, entry into the GOP 2012 race instead. Not a single mention of Ron Paul was made.

Reuters does however mention second place runner up, in the 2007 straw poll that is, Mike Huckabee, as well as Mitt Romney who finished seventh this year in Iowa. Ron Paul is suspiciously edited out of the entire story, despite being a front-runner with 4,671 votes compared to Rick Perry’s back-chaseing 718 votes. If a reader was foolishly depending on Reuters for complete coverage of what took place in Iowa, they might not even know Ron Paul existed – and that is exactly the point.

http://www.infowars.com/reuters-edits-iowa-poll-reality-according-to-g
lobalist-agenda
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Monday, August 15, 2011 7:41 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


As Frem points out, Ron Paul cuts his own throat by staying a part of the Republican party. Of course they tossed him aside; what did he expect them to do?

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Monday, August 15, 2011 8:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
As Frem points out, Ron Paul cuts his own throat by staying a part of the Republican party. Of course they tossed him aside; what did he expect them to do?



To quote the new Hollywood political pundit, Matt Damon...

" Do the actuary tables ". There's a 1 out of 3 chance he doesn't survive his first term.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, August 15, 2011 11:15 AM

PENGUIN


There were votes for the Butter Cow...





King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Monday, August 15, 2011 12:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
As Frem points out, Ron Paul cuts his own throat by staying a part of the Republican party. Of course they tossed him aside; what did he expect them to do?



To quote the new Hollywood political pundit, Matt Damon...

" Do the actuary tables ". There's a 1 out of 3 chance he doesn't survive his first term.




I remember the same basic thing being said about Reagan in 1980. And McCain in 2008.

And Ron Paul is only a year older than McCain.



"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, August 15, 2011 6:43 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




How Michele Bachmann Bought the Ames Straw Poll

Headlines on FoxNews, CNN, MSNBC, and all over the web should have been “Randy Travis Wins Ames Straw Poll Edging out Ron Paul” instead of headlines which touted Congresswoman Michele Bachmann’s victory.

Bachmann spent upwards of $1 million, paid for over 6000 tickets, paid for Grammy Award winning, country musician Randy Travis to show up, and bussed in Randy Travis fans in order to allegedly secure 152 more votes than Congressman Ron Paul. Michele Bachmann’s camp handed out flyers, which stated that in order to see the entertainment, you had to vote for her first. Here is an image of the flyer that was around Ames.

While Bachmann gave out over 6000 tickets(worth $180,000 at $30 each), she received ~4800 votes, so 20% of those who she bought tickets for voted for other candidates. A country concert, a ride to that concert, and various other free stuff is a great deal for a simple vote.

Though she may have won the Ames Straw Poll, Bachmann will not be able to bus in country music fans for a free show for a vote scheme at the Iowa Caucus in 2012. As Congressman Joe "I Killed My Sexy Intern" Scarborough put it, “She is a joke. Her candidacy is a joke. Takes one to know one.”

http://www.unelected.org/how-michele-bachmann-bought-the-ames-straw-po
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"If I have to cross a line to blow that bitch out of the sky, I will."
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Monday, August 15, 2011 10:35 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Answer me this:

How exactly is the notion that ONE state gets to make decisions pre-emptively for the rest of us, any kind of compatible with democracy ?

That has always annoyed me, and I've yet to find any explaination that makes sense.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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