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Wednesday, May 23, 2012 6:57 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Paul Ryan: “We will not only win the next election — we have a unique opportunity to sweep and remake the political landscape,”



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Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:23 PM

OONJERAH



1Kiki predicts, "Fukushima, global warming, economic collapse ... this is our last dance."

If Kiki is right, Oonj hopes to be not around to see it.

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Sunday, May 27, 2012 5:09 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Paul Ryan: “We will not only win the next election — we have a unique opportunity to sweep and remake the political landscape,”



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I like the way he thinks. Hope he's right.



" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein


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Tuesday, June 5, 2012 3:28 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Dreamtrove thinks the US currency is headed for a massive collapse, "but not yet".

Frem thinks there is an "unfolding epic disaster" in Libya.


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Tuesday, June 5, 2012 5:53 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Well as for Libya, unfolded is the word - we really screwed the pooch on that one, it's just not well publicized is all.

I am calling a miss on Rotten Limberger, being somewhat surprised by him not getting kicked off the airwaves even temporarily, and wondering what 11th hour mischief went on to keep him there, prolly involved duct-taping his gaping gob shut for a while - and it sure ain't given me no confidence in humanity, that for damn sure.

Oh, and Occupy and failure due to poor tactics, we can damn near call that one, too.

-F

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Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:46 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Did I miss that Limbaugh prediction?

Quote:

Well as for Libya, unfolded is the word - we really screwed the pooch on that one, it's just not well publicized is all.

Hmm, then care to stick your neck out on what Libya will look like 5, 10 years from now? Will it be better or worse than under Gaddafi?


kpo - "I think whether or not it blows up in the short term, the legacy of the Euro currency will be a very bad one."




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Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Posted by Rappy:


I bet Eric Holder personally saw to it that the guns used were walked into the city [of Chicago], to be used by gang members.


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Friday, June 15, 2012 6:39 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


This one was back in February:


Peter Schiff - "Regardless of what the triumphant Keynesians would have you believe, my analysis continues to be that the current combination of monetary and fiscal stimulus is driving us toward disaster. Instead of a real recovery, the US will experience an inflationary depression. Europe, on the other hand, will suffer much less, precisely because it was not seduced by the short-term appeal of stimulus."


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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:18 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Auraptor jokingly suggests that Egypt will ban alcohol, following the Muslim Brotherhood's election win.



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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
6StringJack: When we get Mitt into the President's Chair (which is an inevatibility now), I will vote for Dems in the congress in 2014.



Link please :)

Though I don't refute that idea in the least, I'd like to see the entire context of that message, and whoever I was quoting, if you don't mind.


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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
6StringJack: When we get Mitt into the President's Chair (which is an inevatibility now), I will vote for Dems in the congress in 2014.



Link please :)

Though I don't refute that idea in the least, I'd like to see the entire context of that message, and whoever I was quoting, if you don't mind.




See the thread "Republicans secret meeting on Inauguration Day"; I've bumped it for you.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I was just going to tell you that I found it lol....

Thanks for bumping it up....

But you must admit, Kwick, that taken out of context that can mean something I didn't intend it to, right?

We're doing good now that the Prez doesn't have 100% authority to do whatever he wants because there is a congress that could stop it. I hated when Bush could do whatever he wanted after 2000 for the same reason.

Government works best for all of us when they fight each other.

I do feel "touched" that you bothered to posted a quote of mine here though, even if it lost all of it's integrity without the rest of the post.

Are you flirting with me????

Come on man... don't fight it.

Imma rock your world boy!




Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
6StringJack: When we get Mitt into the President's Chair (which is an inevatibility now), I will vote for Dems in the congress in 2014.



Link please :)

Though I don't refute that idea in the least, I'd like to see the entire context of that message, and whoever I was quoting, if you don't mind.




See the thread "Republicans secret meeting on Inauguration Day"; I've bumped it for you.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy




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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:15 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Huh. You ask someone to find something, then ask them if they're "flirting" when they find it.


You have odd notions of "flirting", Jack. And I'm not Jerry Sandusky, so you're really not my type, I can assure you.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:38 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Auraptor jokingly suggests that Egypt will ban alcohol, following the Muslim Brotherhood's election win.



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And he discusses the possibility that the Egyptians could cover up the great pyramids, or even destroy them.



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Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Huh. You ask someone to find something, then ask them if they're "flirting" when they find it.


You have odd notions of "flirting", Jack. And I'm not Jerry Sandusky, so you're really not my type, I can assure you.



Nah.... I was wondering if you were flirting with me because you quoted me.


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Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:20 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Again, odd notion of "flirting" you have there, Jack.

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Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:42 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Auraptor predicts that Obama's health care reform will be ruled unconstitutional, or repealed after the November elections.



Strike one!

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Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:18 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Whozit - "2012 will be worse for the Dems than 2010. Barry may not show up at the DNC Convention."


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Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:57 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


More fallout from the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the mandate:


Byte - Medicare is not going to work well for her generation.

Byte - Organ donation will increase

6ixstringjack predicts seeing a '15% sales taxes and 85% taxes on booze and smokes', and generally we should 'expect to pay more for everything'.

Hero - "it means insurance for millions of poor, little change to millions of rich and no insurance for the middle class who also face diminished job prospects (kpo - as a result of the law) and much higher taxes."



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Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:12 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Hmm, then care to stick your neck out on what Libya will look like 5, 10 years from now? Will it be better or worse than under Gaddafi?


No way to know, too damn many factions involved at this point and no way of knowing which exactly is gonna wind up on top of the heap.
I do say leaving well the hell enough alone is often a good policy, but I doubt we'll do so, which adds a whole nother layer of complication to the matter.

-F

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Friday, June 29, 2012 11:14 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Fair enough.

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:03 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



kpo - the economy will pick up in 2013 (regardless of the results of the 2012 election)

Auraptor - Obamacare's effects will be 'the exact opposite' to its stated goals, ie. lower costs, better quality, better access for people with pre-existing conditions.

Niki - "I have no doubt that, if it gets completely implemented, you'll get the same "Don't Touch My ACA" that you currently get "Don't Touch My Medicare""



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Friday, July 13, 2012 8:20 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Signy thinks climate shift is occurring, and this combined with population increase will lead to higher and higher food prices.

Paul Krugman thinks that Romney's in trouble ahead of November - "This could be famous last words, but it looks to me as if Romney is in the process of getting defined — and his party won’t like the results."


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Monday, July 16, 2012 4:01 AM

MAL4PREZ


Hero's prediction for the debates:


Obama: "Outsourcing, blah blah, Bain Capital. Business...bad, Govt Good."
Romney: "There you go again Barry, you keep bringing up things from over a decade ago you know I had nothing to do with...but lets talk about your record, unemployment far higher and for far longer then you could imagine when you passed your economic program. Millions of jobs gone or reduced or sent overseas, billions of dollars wasted on speculative so-called green energy companies that happened to be big contributors and who you supported but ultimately failed or to support factories and jobs in China and Europe. You can't hide your failure to lead by attacking my successful record in business. Maybe if you had a little more real world experiance [sic] in business instead of your classroom theories and poll tested political slogans you would not have to nitpick my record from over a decade ago to distract the American people from what you've been doing for the last four years."


http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=52482&mid=90429
4#904294

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Monday, July 16, 2012 2:45 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


CaveTroll thinks Obama's struggling ahead of November:

CaveTroll - "Nobody who voted for McCain in '08 will vote for Obama this time. Since '08 Obama has seemingly gone out of his way to alienate all the demographics that voted for him. It will take a lot more than spin and weak allegations to get him back into office in November."


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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:41 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Geezer is betting that if Romney releases copies of his returns and they show nothing incorrect, 'the Bainers' will accuse him of having altered them; and there will be a back and forth about whether or not they're fake until the election.

6ixStringJack - "Obama will never get more than 4 years."



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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:55 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


'The punditry chronicles', economics predictions and forecasts over the past decade: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/the-punditry-chronicles/

Including:

George W. Bush, March 12, 2008 - “I think when people take a look back at this moment in our economic history, they’ll recognize tax cuts work.”


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Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:07 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Geezer thinks that if Assad's regime falls in Syria, there may be some interesting revelations about what happened to Sadaam's WMD. Auraptor agrees.


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Sunday, August 5, 2012 11:07 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Brett Stephens (Wall Street Journal) - Mitt Romney has a good chance to peel off a significant portion of the Jewish vote (disillusioned with Obama's policies) in November - enough to make a crucial difference in some states like Florida.

Storymark has 'zero doubt' that there is something in the Romney tax returns that his team is afraid of, and which is preventing him from releasing them.


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Wednesday, August 8, 2012 10:49 AM

FREMDFIRMA



This one actually pre-dates the thread itself, for them that remember.

Hutaree Militia.
Primary charges dropped, case all but thrown out, most members released some time ago, remaining charges commuted to time served, end of story - feds wasted a lot of time and resources on what amounted to something between entrapment and false flag.
http://www.annarbor.com/news/judge-no-more-prison-for-hutaree-head-son/

Called it, top to bottom, from the very start.

-Frem

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Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:04 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Auraptor predicts that Obama's health care reform will be ruled unconstitutional, or repealed after the November elections.



Strike one!



Was there ever any doubt that Rappy would be the first to be proven wrong?


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, August 9, 2012 5:33 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Oh boy, it gets EVEN BETTER....

Former Hutaree militia member nominated for constable in southern Washtenaw County
http://www.annarbor.com/news/former-hutaree-militia-member-nominated-f
or-constable-in-southern-washtenaw-county
/
Quote:

A former member of the Hutaree militia who was acquitted of plotting to rebel against the U.S. government hopes to have a new gig: township constable.

Michael Meeks got 120 votes in the Republican primary Tuesday in Washtenaw County's Bridgewater Township. He now advances to the fall election. It's unclear if there will be a Democratic opponent, although there were a few write-in votes.

Meeks says the job of constable is an unpaid position in Bridgewater. He's unsure what his duties will be but says he's eager to serve the community near Manchester.

The 42-year-old is a former Marine. Meeks was among members of the Hutaree (hoo-TAR'-ee) militia charged with conspiring to attack the government. In March, a federal judge acquitted him and others, saying prosecutors failed to prove their case.


Our local politics are kind of insane by anyone elses standards though.

-F

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Thursday, August 9, 2012 2:56 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Whozit - Romney will pick Paul Ryan as VP pick.
Auraptor - If he does that will piss off Obama.
Niki2 - Ryan would be bad for Romney.
Jongsstraw - "Picking Ryan would be the final nail in Romney's election coffin."

Niki2 - "Bring on the debates! What fun they will be. Can you just see them standing there, Obama relaxed and smiling, Romney looking like he was sculpted from wax!"


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Friday, August 10, 2012 12:13 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Ezra Klein - "Of Portman, Rubio, Pawlenty, Ryan and Christie, I think Rubio is likely the lowest-risk choice."
Ezra Klein - "If Obama wins, I'd bet Erskine Bowles will be our next Treasury Secretary."


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Friday, August 10, 2012 1:19 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I'll go out on a limb and say that I think Romney picks Portman for his running mate.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

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Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:00 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Mitt will be disqualified not long before the election and Paul Ryan will be the nominee.

I actually made this prediction alredy in the Skeptics Society Forum, titled Romney Decoy. The idea iz that The Powerz That Be knew early on that Romney coud never beat Obama, so theyve kept the real candidate off the radar az much az possible. Romneyz purpose iz to draw all the fire, then wen its too late, SUPRIZE! Jon Huntsman or Gary Johnson iz the real candidate!

Maybe it will be Paul Ryan, now that he'z the VP pick, but that duznt exactly fit with my conspiracy theory.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

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Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:14 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'll go out on a limb and say that I think Romney picks Portman for his running mate.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero





Survey says?

BZZZZZZTT!


No wonder my psychic business didn't take off!





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, August 13, 2012 1:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Rappy: "Romney and Ryan will win. Period. Time for you to wake up to that fact."



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Tuesday, August 14, 2012 5:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)





Ann Coulter: "Romney will be the nominee, and we'll lose."



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, August 20, 2012 2:04 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


More fallout from the Ryan VP pick:


Auraptor cites the Romney funding boost as proof in his thread 'Why Obama is losing'.

Chrisisall to Auraptor - "yer party & yer candidate's chances are dead."

Jongstraw - "This election may be won or lost based on voter turnout. I don't think that picking Ryan increases the numbers for Republicans, but I do think it provides Obama with fertile material to motivate his base into going out and voting for him again."

Storymark agrees, as does Niki.

Jongstraw - "Ryan is a disaster for Romney and Republican hopes."

Auraptor - "You go ahead and believe the heavily biased Democrat sampled polls. I'm giddy over the Ryan pick, and can't wait for a complete and total ASS KICKING come November."

Hero - "Romney now has the benefit of cash and momentum and can focus on a handful of battleground states. I think you will see the Romney offensive take off during the Republican National convention with a phase 2 rollout the week after the Dem convention. Dem's have the money to keep up the fight in September but by October the President will be rolling on empty barring some dynamic change..."

Cavetroll suggests that the choice is irrelevant, as no one will change their vote based on it.

Hero feels confident about Ryan in the VP debate - "Ryan vs Bidden will be a knockout."


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Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:42 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Chinese state media - Obama with his 'red line' warning to Syria about using chemical weapons, is 'digging deep' for an excuse to intervene militarily.


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Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:09 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


By 2020 a worldwide war over spelling will be raging as kids refuse to learn the old fashioned spelling of their language, using Nooalf insted. It will start here in America over the next few years, sparking riots at preschools and liberal colleges.

The Nooalf Revolution will lead to an overthrow of all current governments, Skynet will unleash Terminatorz, all sorts uv time travel hijinks will make history really confuzing, but eventually, I will be put in charje az 'The Dude' by the worldz combined military leaderz known az 'The Little Lebowski Urban Achieverz'.


Granted, its a little far fetched, mostly wishful thinking you mite say. But hey! if youre gunnu dream, dream big!

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Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:37 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



I'm going to make a rather bold prediction that the Democrats will win 4 out of the next 5 presidential elections.

Niki - "I don't believe they (the Right) will compromise even if (gawd forbid) Romey were elected."


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Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:22 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


This is the kind of thing that makes me wish I'd started the thread earlier:


The Heritage Foundation (conservative think tank) predicted back in 2001 that the Bush tax cuts "would lead the country into a brave new era of prosperity."


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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:01 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Auraptor thinks the two people ejected from the RNC for racial taunts towards a black camerawoman were probably Occupy gatecrashers. Or that it might just have been 'a media thing' (??) and that people are jumping the gun by calling it Racism.


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Tuesday, September 4, 2012 4:12 PM

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Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Paul Krugman anticipates a lot of media comparisons of the truthiness of DNC speeches vs. Paul Ryan's - in 'an orgy of false equivalence'.


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Sunday, September 9, 2012 7:06 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Stefan Rahmstorf (climate scientist) thinks 2013 is likely to be even hotter than 2012, barring any volcanic eruptions. And that the climate skeptic lobby will shift to blaming global warming on El Nino.

Niall Ferguson (conservative economist) thinks a double-dip recession is likely in the US in 2013 due to political stalemate sending the US over the fiscal cliff


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Monday, September 10, 2012 12:04 AM

JO753

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Larry Flint, the publisher uv Hustler magazine iz offering a miilion dollarz for Romneyz income tax recordz. Since he had to submit them for the vetting process, at least back in 08 for VP, therez agood chance sumbudy will collect the prize. Hardly any chance at all that there wont be a crisis level problem within them and my prediction will come true.

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Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:14 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



kpo - "I think Romney's going to have a tougher time on healthcare than Obama, as all his contortions catch up with him."


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Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:02 AM

CAVETROLL


I picked this article up from Slashdot. The authors of this paper are predicting food riots by next year. Their evidence is that when the revolts started in Egypt, Libya and Syria the food price index was running at 220. We have been running steadily at 213 since. With the Midwest drought they are predicting that food price index will jump to 220-240.

http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/9/10/we-are-now-one-year-and-counting
-from-global-riots-complex-systems-theorists-say--2




Quote:


...Pretty simple. Black dots are the food prices, red lines are the riots. In other words, whenever the UN’s food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world. CSI doesn’t claim that any breach of 210 immediately leads to riots, obviously; just that the probability that riots will erupt grows much greater. For billions of people around the world, food comprises up to 80% of routine expenses (for rich-world people like you and I, it’s like 15%). When prices jump, people can’t afford anything else; or even food itself. And if you can’t eat—or worse, your family can’t eat—you fight...





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