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Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:56 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Why conservative predictions about the election fared so badly:

Quote:

It is easy to close oneself off inside a conservative echo chamber. And right-leaning outlets like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's show are far more intellectually closed than CNN or public radio. If you're a rank-and-file conservative, you're probably ready to acknowledge that ideologically friendly media didn't accurately inform you about Election 2012. Some pundits engaged in wishful thing; others feigned confidence in hopes that it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy; still others decided it was smart to keep telling right-leaning audiences what they wanted to hear.

...

On the biggest political story of the year, the conservative media just got its ass handed to it by the mainstream media. And movement conservatives, who believe the MSM is more biased and less rigorous than their alternatives, have no way to explain how their trusted outlets got it wrong, while the New York Times got it right. Hint: The Times hired the most rigorous forecaster it could find.


The whole article's a good read: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/how-conservative-m
edia-lost-to-the-msm-and-failed-the-rankandfile/264855
/

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Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:57 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


What a diagram this is! How close to the mark were Conservative and liberal pundits' predictions?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/11/pundi
t_scorecard_checking_pundits_predictions_against_the_actual_results.html


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Wednesday, November 7, 2012 1:11 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Oh, missed this one, Hero predicts things won't go Obama's way in the swing states:


Hero - "Oh Obama, my old friend. Have you not heard the old Kilingon proverb that revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It is very cold...in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, and possibly Pennsylvania if turnout is low in Philadelphia."

Is it me, or did Obama win every one of those states?

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:20 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Riona - "remember how a while ago everyone said "allowing same sex marriage isn't a slippery slope thing, allowing that won't allow other things"? Now they're saying, "well go for it guys, no holds barred!". Next they'll want to lower the age of concent so we can be like Pakistan, where 12 year olds marry 50 year olds."

Hero foresees an Israeli attack on Iran: "They (Iran) know Isreal is coming, we know Isreal is going..."


Auraptor, on a possible conservative post-election exodus:

"I suspect many folks who we've never even heard about will do exactly that, sell what they can and get the hell out of dodge..."
"...we may not know their names, or even the companies they run, but if they do pull up and 'Shrug', it's going to cause some ripples."
"Rule of law and rights to property ownership are high on the list for countries to look into. It's gonna get bad here. Real bad."
"People who have worked their entire lives, very hard for their money, and yes, who DID build that, have an actual, tangible reason to be fearful of this President. He LITERALLY wants to take away from them what they earned."


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Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Kwicko wrote:


Obama squeaks it out in the electoral college, taking Ohio and Wisconsin, while Romney edges Florida, Virginia, Iowa, and Colorado, but still comes up just shy of the 270 needed.





Nope. Obama took every one of those, and then some.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:38 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Here's an idea I've had, a bit of an experiment and something I've wanted to do for a while.

The point of this thread is to be a public record of people's predictions. You can post your own, or other people's that you've read and found interesting, so that we can all see in months and years to come who turned out to be accurate in their predictions, and who didn't. It's a chance to stick your neck out, or stick other people's out for them if you think their comments come out of a deluded partisan bubble.

I have one rule, and that is that people post their predictions in red font. The idea of this is that the predictions will stand out and be easy to find and read, and then all discussion can happen around them. Besides that one rule I'll just make a general plea to posters to be faithful when quoting other people, and to keep flame wars to a minimum.

How to post in red font
It's quite easy, post in red font by putting the code font color=red inside triangle brackets like this: . That goes before the text you want to be red. To turn off font color use this code: /font color inside triangle brackets, to return to ordinary font.

Here's a couple of predictions I've read recently and found interesting, to get the ball rolling (I'm paraprashing, from memory):


Auraptor: "The GOP will beat Obama by double digits in November."
Storymark: "Mitt Romney will be the GOP's John Kerry."





Yes to Story's prediction, quite a resounding NO to Rappy's.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:39 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,



I predict that as the election approaches, the opposition party will become more vehement and offensive, while the incumbent party will become more stringent in their defense of a president who has done little to recommend him.


--Anthony





Yup.

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:41 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:


George Soros predicts that if the Republicans win the white house in 2012 they will undergo a 'miraculous transformation' and decide the economy needs more stimulus.





Indeterminate, since it didn't happen.

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:43 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Is a lighter shade of red ok? Spot of humor ok?


I predict that Gingrich, Paul, Romney & Santorum will be in a virtual dead heat before the Convention. The Republican party will drop them and nominate Arnold Schwarzenegger, pushing him as the governor who almost saved the California economy.

Air Force One will crash killing Obama on the same day that Biden suffers a heart attack with stroke. The Democrats will run Hillary Clinton.

Knowing that the neocon Republicans got us into this mess, very likely on purpose, and will continue to grind us down, I will vote Democratic no matter what.

Arnold will win by a substantial margin.

God will intervene to give Arnold the gifts of wisdom & humility. Arnold will tell Him to keep it, saying, "I've got this. You don't understand American politics anyway."

God will agree to Arnold's wishes; and I am not sacreligious enough to put words into His mouth as the Heavens close.



"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon




Not even close. Not even by a little.

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:47 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
To be fair I'll post one of mine:


kpo on Rick Perry: "If I were a betting man I'd put money on him as next president."


Oops.

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Well, to be fair, we can leave this one up for four more years and see how it goes for him in 2016.

But I think your comment on your prediction was the most accurate, and sums up the way Texans now feel about him, too: "Oops."

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 4:24 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
To be fair I'll post one of mine:


kpo on Rick Perry: "If I were a betting man I'd put money on him as next president."


Oops.

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Well, to be fair, we can leave this one up for four more years and see how it goes for him in 2016.

But I think your comment on your prediction was the most accurate, and sums up the way Texans now feel about him, too: "Oops."



That might just make the list of top 10 worst predictions...

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 4:52 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Ezra Klein thinks Romney will be a stronger prospect in a general election than he is in the current Republican primary, and that a contest between him and Obama would be quite tight.



Well, yes and no.

Yes, it was quite tight according to pundits, but not really that tight where it counted (in the Electoral College), and Romney was much weaker against the president than he was against his own field of worthless also-rans (he actually BEAT them).



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, November 8, 2012 4:54 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Auraptor predicts that Obama's health care reform will be ruled unconstitutional, or repealed after the November elections.


Nope, and nope. Constitutional, and now certain to stand.


Barney Frank expects that Obama will be re-elected in November, barring any big jolts to the economy.



Yes indeed.

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Friday, November 9, 2012 6:08 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Kwicko wrote:


Obama squeaks it out in the electoral college, taking Ohio and Wisconsin, while Romney edges Florida, Virginia, Iowa, and Colorado, but still comes up just shy of the 270 needed.





Nope. Obama took every one of those, and then some.





One thing I noticed during this thread was that liberals' predictions stayed close to what the polls were showing, and often erred on the side of pessimism. Conservative predictions were often quite different to what the polls were saying, and more often erred on the side of optimism. Just an interesting commentary on liberal/conservative mentality...

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Friday, November 9, 2012 8:06 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Kwicko wrote:


Obama squeaks it out in the electoral college, taking Ohio and Wisconsin, while Romney edges Florida, Virginia, Iowa, and Colorado, but still comes up just shy of the 270 needed.





Nope. Obama took every one of those, and then some.





One thing I noticed during this thread was that liberals' predictions stayed close to what the polls were showing, and often erred on the side of pessimism. Conservative predictions were often quite different to what the polls were saying, and more often erred on the side of optimism. Just an interesting commentary on liberal/conservative mentality...

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That's the subject of many articles these last few days - how the left actually beleived math - whereas the right tended to believe in a fiction that was based on rejecting said math.

Reminds me of the climate change debate....




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Friday, November 9, 2012 8:10 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


Auraptor: "The GOP will beat Obama by double digits in November."
Storymark: "Mitt Romney will be the GOP's John Kerry."





Yes to Story's prediction, quite a resounding NO to Rappy's.



Since Romney LOST by double digits, rappy's prediction wasn't merely wrong, but literally the opposite of what happened.

ETA: Oh, my bad, Romney didn't lose by double digits - he lost by TRIPLE digits...




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, November 9, 2012 8:22 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:


Well, yes and no.

Yes, it was quite tight according to pundits, but not really that tight where it counted (in the Electoral College), and Romney was much weaker against the president than he was against his own field of worthless also-rans (he actually BEAT them).



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."


I realize this isn't the place to address this, but 538 blog had an interesting analysis on the state by state demographics. What I got out of it is that it doesn't help republicans that the red states are getting redder. OTOH it helps democrats that many many swing states are edging bluer.

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Friday, November 9, 2012 9:21 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Ooh, that's a good article Kiki - here it is: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/as-nation-and-part
ies-change-republicans-are-at-an-electoral-college-disadvantage
/


NateSilver - "If the parties continue down the same paths, however, this won’t be the last election when most of the swing states turn blue."


The alternative path he suggests is if Republicans moderate their tone on social issues, and try to appeal to hispanics more - but that won't be easy given how deeply dug in conservatives are on these issues, it seems to me. Party civil war?

All in all I think my bold (pre-November) prediction is looking good:

Quote:



kpo - "I'm going to make the rather bold prediction that Democrats will win 4 out of the next 5 presidential elections."




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Friday, November 9, 2012 10:01 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Hahahahaha:

Grover Norquist (2004) - "The Democratic Party is Toast"

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.norquist.html

Only Catpirate has achieved more spectacularly wrong predictions in one go.

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Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:51 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Jim Jones, CRFB (non-partisan think tank) - "We are perilously close to trillion-dollar yearly interest payments, 7 percent yields on 10-year U.S. Treasury bonds, 10 percent home mortgage rates and 13 percent rates on car loans"

CaveTroll - "that "quantitative easing" that the Fed has been doing? It's devaluing the worth of the dollar."

Signy - "Sooner or later, the value of the dollar will fall... not "because of" our debt, but our debt will make the effects worse for us than otherwise might be."

kpo thinks the economy will be better than it is now in a couple of years.


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Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:51 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Riona - "remember how a while ago everyone said "allowing same sex marriage isn't a slippery slope thing, allowing that won't allow other things"? Now they're saying, "well go for it guys, no holds barred!". Next they'll want to lower the age of concent so we can be like Pakistan, where 12 year olds marry 50 year olds."



Does anyone remember which thread this was in? I'd really like to follow up.

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Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:04 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Hahahahaha:

Grover Norquist (2004) - "The Democratic Party is Toast"

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0409.norquist.html

Only Catpirate has achieved more spectacularly wrong predictions in one go.

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Wow! Good article. Some highlights, if I may:


- Over time, the Senate--thanks to those wonderful square states out west--will trend toward 60 Republicans as the 30 red states elect Republicans and the 20 blue states elect Democrats. The anomaly of four Democratic senators hailing from Republican North and South Dakota will come to an end, as will the Republican-held Senate seat in Rhode Island.

- Abroad, four more years under President Bush will move America and the world towards greater free trade, spreading prosperity throughout the world and bringing more countries into the trading systems that require property rights and rule of law, draining the swamps that breed radicalism and terror.

- And a steady increase in the number of honest gun owners will continue to reduce street crime and make America safer.
[That's right. Because only the "honest" gun owners take advantage of loose gun regulations...]

- Four more years of President Bush will also accelerate one of the most important demographic changes in America over the past 20 years: the number of Americans who own stock.
[Just in time for the crash of 2008 woo-hoo!]

- According to pollster Scott Rasmussen, if you own $5000 in stock you are 18 percent less likely to be a Democrat and more likely to be a Republican. Every demographic group, including race, gender, age, and income, becomes more Republican with stock ownership.

- With the end of 40 years of Democratic gerrymandering, states in which a majority of the congressional popular vote goes to the GOP now award a majority of congressional seats to the GOP, too. Republican-led redistricting in Texas will add an additional five to seven Republican House seats over the next few cycles. Redistricting in Texas and throughout the country ensures that Republicans will continue to control the House through 2012.
[He's part right on this one, that the gerrymandering will be done by the Repubs to their benefit.]


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Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Riona - "remember how a while ago everyone said "allowing same sex marriage isn't a slippery slope thing, allowing that won't allow other things"? Now they're saying, "well go for it guys, no holds barred!". Next they'll want to lower the age of concent so we can be like Pakistan, where 12 year olds marry 50 year olds."



Does anyone remember which thread this was in? I'd really like to follow up.




This one, I believe:

http://beta.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=53479





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:59 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Paul Krugman - "I don’t think the Republican party as currently constituted can change this: after 45 years of the Southern strategy, this stuff is what defines the party’s soul."


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Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:01 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Kevin Drum - "If the GOP endures another few years of losses, they'll start to moderate out of self-defense, but that's still a few years off. If they lose in 2016, my guess is that it will happen sometime around 2017. If they win in 2016, then God only knows."

Kevin Drum - "One possibility is that the extreme right has one last big hurrah, nominating someone like Rick Santorum in 2016, and then gets absolutely blown out of the water due to a combination of a toxic candidate, changing demographics, and an economy finally in pretty good shape. And that will be their Waterloo. Cooler heads will finally prevail and by 2020 we'll have two relatively sane political parties in America. I have no idea if things will really play out like this. But it's certainly a possibility."


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Wednesday, December 5, 2012 7:44 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


On the upcoming fiscal cliff:


kpo - "Seriously, how can Obama lose this fight?"

NewOldBrownCoat - "Watch closely- he'll compromise , and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory."

ShinyGoodGuy - "It seems to me "Boner" is playing out his string to show the Tea Party folk that he fought until the bitter end, then he'll have to cave."


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Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:17 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Irrelevant Niall Ferguson believes the Arab Spring is evolving into an 'Islamist winter'.


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Friday, December 28, 2012 10:47 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


BBC correspondents' predictions for 2013: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20810104

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Monday, December 31, 2012 3:59 AM

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Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9

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Friday, January 11, 2013 7:05 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Paul Krugman wonders if/suggests Japan will perform surprisingly well in the short/medium term because it has just launched fresh stimulus plans: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/is-japan-the-country-of-th
e-future-again/?smid=tw-NytimesKrugman&seid=auto



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Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:31 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Auraptor on the US economy's surprise contraction last quarter - "And so it begins."


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Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:17 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Kwicko thinks the GOP will oppose the 'Stop Illegal Trafficking in Firearms Act of 2013 '

Geezer - "Not so much."


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Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:27 AM

STORYMARK


Did the thread tallying the right/wrong predictions ever happen? If so, I missed it. Can someone give me the link?




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"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

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Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:01 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


It didn't happen, I got busy...

Coming soon!

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Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:31 PM

STORYMARK


Not trying to amp the pressure. Just was reminded by your latest experiment thread, and started to wonder if I had missed something.




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Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:18 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


It's cool, I'm glad it's anticipated.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Friday, May 17, 2013 11:10 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Robert Shrum (Daily Beast) - "Clinton is the nominee the GOP least wants to face. In their darkest nightmares, they see 16 years of Democratic presidents."

Robert Shrum - "Republicans are driven by the politics of personal destruction. It's all they've got—and it's red meat for the media. If the target isn’t Clinton, it's Obama—or the other Clinton. And the Republicans will do it again and again—to President Obama in these years and maybe to President Clinton at the start of her second term in 2021."



It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, June 2, 2013 2:19 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Geezer reckons there will 'probably be more' Medicare and Medicaid fraud as a result of Obamacare.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:34 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongstraw:
Besides, Republicans are gonna be in real good shape with Hispanics for the next national election with popular Hispanic politicians like Rubio and Cruz, and Martinez. Even Jeb Bush, 'cause Hispanics love him and his Mexican-American wife. Think about that...Jeb Bush winning the Presidency....the next phase of the Bush dynasty! The ultimate payback for the Obama debacle.



http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=55492&p=1#9
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I don't know though. I suspect that River/Jong posted this with full knowledge of how ironic/ridiculous it is. Cause really, it is so over the top, and even River isn't that stupid.

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:23 PM

JONGSSTRAW

We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be stolen.


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongstraw:
Besides, Republicans are gonna be in real good shape with Hispanics for the next national election with popular Hispanic politicians like Rubio and Cruz, and Martinez. Even Jeb Bush, 'cause Hispanics love him and his Mexican-American wife. Think about that...Jeb Bush winning the Presidency....the next phase of the Bush dynasty! The ultimate payback for the Obama debacle.



http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=55492&p=1#9
41421


I don't know though. I suspect that River/Jong posted this with full knowledge of how ironic/ridiculous it is. Cause really, it is so over the top, and even River isn't that stupid.


What's really "over the top" is what a pathetic little asswipe you are for monitoring peoples' posts like it's your major accomplishment in life. What a truly empty and hopeless existence you must have.

Here's another major prediction for ya to document .... a year from now you'll still be a useless piece of shit without an original thought in your stupid head. And River/Mal, don't you dare not be here in a year, because I know my prediction about you will have been realized in spades.

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:30 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
What's really "over the top" is what a pathetic little asswipe you are for monitoring peoples' posts like it's your major accomplishment in life.

Translation:

"WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! I got caught being a moron so my only recourse (if I knew how to use the word "recourse") is to whine about unfair it is for people to use my own words as evidence as to how wrong I am!!!"

Wasn't this just 100% predicted as the SOP of the Rap? Have you fallen so far River, so that all of your personnas are acting exactly alike? Stop it already. You're making it too easy.

Quote:

Here's another major prediction for ya to document .... a year from now you'll still be a useless piece of shit without an original thought in your stupid head. And River/Mal, don't you dare not be here in a year, because I know my prediction about will have been realized.


It is now recorded. See you in a year or two River.

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:41 PM

JONGSSTRAW

We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be stolen.


Ok River, Rue, Signy, Kiki, Magons and whatever other names you use to spread your liberal whoredom around here. And yes, we'll see if you're still a useless piece of shit on 6/28/14.

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:01 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Ok River, Rue, Signy, Kiki, Magons and whatever other names you use to spread your liberal whoredom around here. And yes, we'll see if you're still a useless piece of shit on 6/28/14.



Isn't it funny how right wingers react when they're called out on their shit? Instead of trying to deny it, they accuse others of doing exactly what they have done.

I am myself and no other. My posts are quite different in material and tone and intent from those others. You, however, are quite indistinguishable from River and Rap. I imagine you tried hard at first, perhaps kept notes on what these "posters" were like so they'd have their own voices, but as the years went by you've gotten careless. At this point they all the same voice, and the way they've made such sudden and extreme shifts to become exactly like you lately makes it clear.

Back to the drawing board, dear.

In any case, I'll see you in June 2014 when the Hispanics of America overwhelming turn their support to that all-embracing minority-loving big-tent Republican party. [/Mal4prez's ironic tone]

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:14 PM

JONGSSTRAW

We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be stolen.


I'll add pathological liar to your list of accomplishments. There is NO difference between you and any of the dozen or so twitchy liberal psycho snits who pathetically stalk, at every opportunity, the small group of Conservatives who post regularly. I've learned to see you all the same because you ARE ALL exactly the same.

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 7:43 PM

JONGSSTRAW

We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be stolen.



I actually wish the Conservative Rivers and Kaneman would come back just to balance things out a bit. But they haven't been seen here for many years, so perhaps I should just create a whole bunch of 'Rivers" and 'Kanes' for you libs to deal with every day. The names will have to be slightly different than the originals of course, but it won't matter. Maybe a few AURaptor, Six, Whozit, and Wulf clones too just for added giggles.

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'd forgotten about kaneman. Let's see, if I remember my history right, after he was banned R6213 showed up, after that was RL, and now ... TADA! YOU! All posting exactly the same way!

THANKS! for reminding me of one of the sock puppets.

ENJOY YOUR NEXT FOUR YEARS!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - HERE'S LAUGHING AT YOU KID!

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Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:36 PM

MAL4PREZ


Rappy says that Sarah Palin was right...

I can't even finish the rest cause I'm laughing too hard!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mreply.aspx?mid=945777

And laughing even more about Jong and how much he misses all his socks. Wow, what a place RWED is! That's almost as good as OPPYH being sad about Rappy leaving back in the day.

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Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:42 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Zimmerman if next ...




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Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:50 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


2014-2016 crazy time for the USA

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Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:39 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

What's really "over the top" is what a pathetic little asswipe you are for monitoring peoples' posts like it's your major accomplishment in life. What a truly empty and hopeless existence you must have.



Awwww, somebody gets all cranky when forced to look at the plain record of how very fucking wrong they are, over and over.

Need a juice box? A nap maybe?




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