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Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:48 AM

BYTEMITE


Actually Jong, AuRaptor and River/kaneman are pretty distinct, and so are Sig, 1kiki, Niki, and Mal4Prez.

The nuances can be subtle because most of the compared posters do have some similar political beliefs, but they also differ in places as well.

AuRaptor claims to be an atheist (though still defensive about there being a war on Christians), I don't recall I've ever heard Jong claim to be atheist.

Neither one likes gay marriage but for different reasons. AuRaptor dislikes it because he sees it as another part of that war on christians freedom of religion free speech thing - though he never really talks about common law marriage. My impression is that Jongstraw doesn't approve because he thinks there's something unethical or disturbing about it.

kaneman/River tends to be more shocking with insults. AUraptor and Jongstraw may sometimes drop a "shithead" or an "asshole", maybe even skank and bitch and others. But I think you're all forgetting just what kaneman/River insults are like. Those insults were like... The work of an artist, or a wizard, but rendered entirely in profanity and horrifying images. Words like "flies" and "uterus" constructed a mental image of depravities being born, then eaten, and squeezed out again on a desolate barren background in an endless surreal loop of what-the-fuckery. There are insults, and then there are insults that can damage your sanity.

Niki writes long posts. Sig and Mal4Prez both write medium-ish length posts with an overview process then progression/speculation, but as an argument goes on they differ in their styles, where Sig tends to hammer at a point and be more serious, and Mal4Prez tends to be more jokey. 1kiki writes short posts that focus on a particular detail.

There are also slight political differences here and there, like I think for example there was a thread where people were discussing rights in the context of a protest that deliberately blocked off streets and obstructed traffic, and they had different opinions, and there was another thread about burqas and Muslim women were they had different opinions, and another thread about Muslim violence in response to cartoons.

Like I said, differences are subtle, but there. None of the groups seem like a sockpuppet army to me, they appear to all be legitimately separate people. However, I do think it's possible that 1kiki and Sig know each other in real life.

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Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:37 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Wulfenstar: "The case of Trayvon Martin is done.

It is starting to sound more, and more, like a good shoot."

Originally posted by kpo:

Aura

Originally posted by kpo:
I'm going to go somewhat against Riona and predict: Egypt and Libya will be stable, functioning democracies within 5-10 years - but Iraq won't.

Anthony thinks that an Islamic 'Reformation' is likely, and perhaps inevitable. kpo disagrees.


It's not personal. It's just war.




yeah


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Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:15 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
What goes around comes around. Obama and the Dems will learn that in 2014 as they did in 2010.




First post of http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=56419

I can only hope that Jongs is back on meds by election returns, November 2014, or things could get ugly around here. Oh never mind, the RWAs will just ignore it like they ignore 2012 and 2008.



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The French Revolution would have never happened if Marie Antoinette had just given every peasant an iPhone.

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Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:55 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, Jong's done even better than that:
Quote:

Jong, 10/11/2013: "When Republicans take the Senate and keep the House a year from now, that will be the end of Obama's Reign of Error." http://www.fireflyfans.net/mreply.aspx?mid=950088
_______________________________

Jong, 10/11/2013: "The Tea Party is the ONLY hope for America's economic future. The 2014 election will be worse for Obama, Dems, and RINOs than 2010 was. And they got crushed by the Tea Party in 2010. The Restoration is at hand." http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=56402





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Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:57 PM

STORYMARK


As a result of the shutdown debacle, this prediction was posted this morning:

"Speaker Pelosi Part 2: Opening Jan 5. 2015"

This comes from noted lefty Matt Drudge....




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:10 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Jongsstraw - "So it will come out for all the world to see that the Obama Admin. actively helped the Muslim Brotherhood topple Mubarak who was friendly to the West."

Frem - "Hilary has *ALREADY* bagged up 2016, bought and paid for, so you better just start learning to deal with it"


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Friday, November 15, 2013 8:39 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



"As long as Obama is in the White House the ACA is not in trouble. By the time he is out the problems will be memories and the program will be like Medicare and Social Security...near untouchable." - M52Nick

"Krauthammer said earlier this week that the collapse of Obamacare is inevitable. He also made another statement that was even more shocking; so shocking that I dare not mention it." (via Jongs)


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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:07 AM

CAVETROLL


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Hey you're welcome JS, but I try to document every interesting prediction I find, and I try to do so faithfully. Thank you for sticking your neck out and making predictions so often.


CTS, in the 'Iran's currency plummets in value' thread - "We shouldn't gloat, cause our turn is next."


ETA:


Cavetroll reports on $16T of secret bailouts to foreign and US banks by the Fed, and asks "Can Weimar style inflation be far off?"

Cavetroll on the surprise drop in the unemployment rate a month before the election - "I'm sure in a month or so, quietly, on a Friday afternoon, the numbers will be adjusted to their actual point."


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Based on this NY Post article,
http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/census-faked-2012-election-jobs-report/

Quote:


In the home stretch of the 2012 presidential campaign, from August to September, the unemployment rate fell sharply — raising eyebrows from Wall Street to Washington.
The decline — from 8.1 percent in August to 7.8 percent in September — might not have been all it seemed. The numbers, according to a reliable source, were manipulated...



This is my shocked face.

Now we'll see if this gets more play in the news or goes in the memory hole with all the other news that is offensive to Chicago Jesus.


Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:09 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


http://www.businessinsider.com/report-on-unemployment-rate-being-faked
-2013-11


You made the "Best and worst of the predictions thread" with that prediction CaveTroll ;-)

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=54818

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:41 PM

STORYMARK


Wow, the troll found the entrance to its cave. Took a whole year, but, uh.... good for you!




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:36 AM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


On Obamacare (and states' website successes):


kpo - "Still,to know it CAN work, when the governors implement it well... This could backfire on Republican governors who have sought to stop the law working, and whose constituents will suffer as a result."


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Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:20 PM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Frem - "Hilary has *ALREADY* bagged up 2016, bought and paid for, so you better just start learning to deal with it"


I want a piece of that action.

He's probably right, if there's a lot of hype around a candidate even if they haven't declared (and it's likely they're going to declare) they tend to have enough momentum and energy to steamroller other candidates as they rise and fall. Hillary will probably be the democratic candidate, because her democratic opponents and the Republican alternatives right now are crickets.

This is why Mitt Romney was the obvious Republican candidate, but also why it was obvious Obama was going to win again. Comparatively Mitt Romney was an unknown (and mormon) - he had the early momentum to surmount the other republican candidates, but not enough to surmount Obama.

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Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:20 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Geezer (on Obamacare): "Looks like the Administration may have made overly optimistic estimates of enrollment by the young and fit."


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Monday, December 30, 2013 12:41 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


People get tired of political correctness and multi culturalism



China and India and Russia start launching commercial flights to the Moon

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Tuesday, January 28, 2014 8:58 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Geezer thinks the growth of China's CO2 emissions, which slowed last year, will go 'right back up' - citing past trends, and dismissing the analysis in articles such as this one: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24742770


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Saturday, February 22, 2014 6:40 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Signy predicts deepening violence in Ukraine following the vote of the Ukrainian parliament to remove President Yanukovych from power:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57554


"As I've been saying for many posts now, Yanukovych has support. He is in the Russian-speaking southeast of the Ukraine, rounding up support. Civil war may be the next step. The Ukraine may be split in two. I think this was the goal of the west all along."

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Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:30 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Auraptor on Obamacare hitting its 7 million sign up target:

"Funny how the administration is touting 7.1 MILLION!! on April's Fools Day.

Seriously, you'd have to be a gorram fool to believe this President."

JSF agrees with him:

"How asleep at the wheel must one be to belive this?
How brain dead must one be to belive this as truth?"



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Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:38 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Signy on Fukushima:

"...Northeastern Japan is hopelessly contaminated for the next century..."

"...We've contaminated the West Coast of North America with iodine and cesium, and have graduated to hemorrhaging cesium, strontium, and tritium-contaminated water into the Pacific. And we know that we will cause millions in excess cancers and unpredictable ecological damage to the Pacific..."


Edited to underline the bit that's actually a prediction.

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Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:42 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Jongsstraw: "January 20th Repubs take over the Senate. Bye-bye Harry, and bye-bye Barry!"



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Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:14 PM

REAVERFAN


They were so sure...

The schadenfreude has been abundant among liberals.

The reichwing response was 50 votes to repeal Obamacare, and millions spent to lie about it.

You poor things.

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Friday, April 4, 2014 11:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


KPO_ the following were not predictions, they've already happened:

Quote:

(1) Northeastern Japan is hopelessly contaminated for the next century... (2) We've contaminated the West Coast of North America with iodine and cesium, and have graduated to (3) hemorrhaging cesium, strontium, and tritium-contaminated water into the Pacific.


(1) SURVEY OF STRONGLY CONTAMINATED AREAS IN JAPAN
Quote:

We show that 137Cs strongly contaminated the soils in large areas of eastern and northeastern Japan, whereas western Japan was sheltered by mountain ranges. The soils around Fukushima NPP and neighboring prefectures have been extensively contaminated with depositions of more than 100,000 and 10,000 MBq km-2, respectively.

http://www.pnas.org/content/108/49/19530.abstract


(2) USGS SURVEY: SIGNIFICANT FALLOUT IN USA
Quote:

The study found concentrations (activity) and fallout (deposition) of radioactive iodine and radioactive cesium in significant number of samples. Detectable quantities of Iodine-131, Cesium-137, and Cesium-134 were observed at 21% of the 167 tested locations

http://nadp.isws.illinois.edu/fukushima/

(3) FUKUSHIMA LEAKING TONS OF RADIOACTIVE WATER INTO THE OCEAN EACH DAY
Quote:

A government official told reporters Wednesday that an estimated 300 metric tons (330 tons) of contaminated water was leaking into the ocean every day from the Daiichi plant, which was devastated by the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami, Reuters reported.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/wrecked-fukushima-nuke-plant-leaking
-330-tons-contaminated-water-day-f6C10865611


Those items should never have been listed as predictions, since they were in the category of well-known occurrences. So please move those items from the "predictions" category to the "been there, done that" list, if there is such a thing.

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Friday, April 4, 2014 12:03 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

"As I've been saying for many posts now, Yanukovych has support. He is in the Russian-speaking southeast of the Ukraine, rounding up support. Civil war may be the next step. The Ukraine may be split in two. I think this was the goal of the west all along."
Ukraine has been split, but without civil war (so far).

I call this a halfway-met prediction.

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Friday, April 4, 2014 5:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


GOP will win enough Senate seats in Nov 2014 to have Senate majority.
White House will "revise" Obamacare enrollment figures downward to admit that 7.1 million was pure fabrication, like the employment figures.

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Friday, April 4, 2014 5:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Jongsstraw: "January 20th Repubs take over the Senate. Bye-bye Harry, and bye-bye Barry!"



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I'll call fail on this one. New Congress is ussually sworn in the first week of January. I don't think they will wait til the 20th.

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Friday, April 4, 2014 5:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
As a result of the shutdown debacle, this prediction was posted this morning:

"Speaker Pelosi Part 2: Opening Jan 5. 2015"

This comes from noted lefty Matt Drudge....




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"


I'll take this action. Is it claimed by Storymark?

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Friday, April 4, 2014 10:37 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Quote:

Those items should never have been listed as predictions, since they were in the category of well-known occurrences. So please move those items from the "predictions" category to the "been there, done that" list, if there is such a thing.

I've underlined the bit that was a prediction, and left the rest for context.

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Monday, April 7, 2014 7:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


No sure how this will come out. Facts will be denied as lies, truth will be denied as having never been said. Right?

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Monday, April 7, 2014 8:49 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


You can see for yourself how it came out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=54818

Quote:

Facts will be denied as lies,

It depends on the nature of the prediction. Specific predictions like 'Romney will be elected' and 'Obamacare will be ruled unconstitutional' can be easily classed as wrong.

Quote:

truth will be denied as having never been said. Right?

Witness Auraptor back tracking on his quotes in hindsight, and fooling no one.

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Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


No Best Of 2013?

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Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:07 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


No, I only post occasional predictions now. I kind of feel I already achieved what I set out to achieve :-/

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Friday, April 11, 2014 9:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Which is?


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Friday, April 11, 2014 4:47 PM

OONJERAH




To show that many posters here are clairvoyant?


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Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OONJ: Hahahaha!!

Anyway, saw this... in Slaviansk
Quote:

Armed pro-Russian activists carrying riot shields occupy a police station on Saturday, April 12.... Ukraine has seen a sharp rise in tensions since a new pro-European government took charge of the country in February.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/12/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html?h
pt=hp_t2

This is in addition to Donetsk, Luhansk, and Kharkiv.

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Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:46 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Which is?




Well what better way to test the validity and accuracy of someone's worldview, than by their predictions?

When Auraptor, Whozit, Hero etc. predicted that Obama would be crushed in 2012, and that Romney would win in a landslide, etc., etc., that was a prediction that came out of their worldview - that Obama is a marxist, an AlQaeda sympathiser, an America hater, a race-baiter, etc., and that the country had gone halfway to hell in his first 4 years. The ONLY prediction that can come out of such a worldview is that Obama would never be re-elected. Hence their complete disbelief when he won.

When I hear a poster claiming things like 'Benghazi will be Obama's Watergate', I think to myself this person has been whipped up into a frenzy by her partisan media. She's not living in the real world. So I post the prediction here, and it's stored for posterity, and people can see how the prediction bears out.

My aim was to show a thoroughly terrible track record of conservative predictions, pointing to the fact that modern conservatives have hyper-ideological, partisan media-warped worldviews. And that they don't live in the real world.

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Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well I agree. The best way to test someone's "mental model" is to see how well it predicts what happens next. Sorry to say I've not been following this thread, it's so very long. I like the idea, though, and I have to say- Hat's off to you for your persistence.

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Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:57 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


I like experiments, in case you hadn't noticed

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Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:09 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
My aim was to show a thoroughly terrible track record of conservative predictions, pointing to the fact that modern conservatives have hyper-ideological, partisan media-warped worldviews. And that they don't live in the real world.


I would accept that as an axiom at this point.

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Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:11 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Paul Krugman predicts a Greek exit from the Euro within months ('very possibly next month'), and possibly, the end of the Euro.


http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/eurodammerung-2/

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Jumped back into this thread to see the new posts in the last few days and found this one. Heard a piece on the radio the other night-- the Euro is still going strong, somebody else is now predicted about to bail out, Greece is still in, and has recovered.

Isn't Krugman, once he gets over his conservative bias, supposed to actually be an economist?

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Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:35 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongstraw:
Besides, Republicans are gonna be in real good shape with Hispanics for the next national election with popular Hispanic politicians like Rubio and Cruz, and Martinez. Even Jeb Bush, 'cause Hispanics love him and his Mexican-American wife. Think about that...Jeb Bush winning the Presidency....the next phase of the Bush dynasty! The ultimate payback for the Obama debacle.



http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=55492&p=1#9
41421


I don't know though. I suspect that River/Jong posted this with full knowledge of how ironic/ridiculous it is. Cause really, it is so over the top, and even River isn't that stupid.



Oh my, that's a good one. Saw a piece somewhere the other day comparing Ol' Jeb to Hillary-- as in, they're both the closet favorites of the party members, and they'd both be the leaders right now if they were announced candidates.

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Sunday, April 13, 2014 11:28 PM

OONJERAH


Quote KPO: "Well what better way to test the validity and accuracy
of someone's worldview, than by their predictions?"

And to show that some posters here are Not clairvoyant.

OK. We all know people who are like that ... People who
know everything, and know it so well, so solid ... that
the Truth can never catch them with their mind open.

Since it is futile to discuss reality with them, you let
their own predictions show the way.


====================== :>

All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, April 17, 2014 7:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I'll predict that the number of uninsured in America will miraculously drop, if it wasn't already announced today - haven't checked news yet.
After Obamination White House massages numbers, anybody who does not heartily believe the fiction will be known as racists.

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Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:39 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


The Obamacare trutherism is just so laughably predictable.

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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:51 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

Paul Krugman predicts a Greek exit from the Euro within months ('very possibly next month'), and possibly, the end of the Euro.


http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/eurodammerung-2/

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Jumped back into this thread to see the new posts in the last few days and found this one. Heard a piece on the radio the other night-- the Euro is still going strong, somebody else is now predicted about to bail out, Greece is still in, and has recovered.

Isn't Krugman, once he gets over his conservative bias, supposed to actually be an economist?


Yes Krugman is an economist but no, not a conservative - he's solidly liberal. I find his predictions are generally good when they're purely economics; where he falls down (sometimes) is on his judgment of the politics. In the above quote he made the mistake (like a lot of American commentators) of underestimating European politicians' commitment to make the Euro work, and European countries willingness to suffer the pain of austerity.

Here's his latest prediction:


Krugman predicts that Sweden is going to find it 'very hard' to get out of its deflation trap.




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Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:09 PM

STORYMARK


This is my favorite thread on the whole site, by the way. For all the mountains of bullshit the right heaps on us - its nice to have a running record of how consistently they are proven wrong.

Its also just purely amusing that they avoid this thread like the plague.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Which is?




Well what better way to test the validity and accuracy of someone's worldview, than by their predictions?

When Auraptor, Whozit, Hero etc. predicted that Obama would be crushed in 2012, and that Romney would win in a landslide, etc., etc., that was a prediction that came out of their worldview - that Obama is a marxist, an AlQaeda sympathiser, an America hater, a race-baiter, etc., and that the country had gone halfway to hell in his first 4 years. The ONLY prediction that can come out of such a worldview is that Obama would never be re-elected. Hence their complete disbelief when he won.

When I hear a poster claiming things like 'Benghazi will be Obama's Watergate', I think to myself this person has been whipped up into a frenzy by her partisan media. She's not living in the real world. So I post the prediction here, and it's stored for posterity, and people can see how the prediction bears out.

My aim was to show a thoroughly terrible track record of conservative predictions, pointing to the fact that modern conservatives have hyper-ideological, partisan media-warped worldviews. And that they don't live in the real world.

It's not personal. It's just war.


OK. How valid to have a pre-drawn conclusion to cherry pick your evaluations to support. How unbiased, neutral, balanced, and scientific.

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Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:48 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


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Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:22 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


A Signy post, from March 14th:

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Plausible future news... with additions


KIEV AND THE WEST CALL CRIMEAN VOTE A "SHAM"
The government in Kiev called the Crimean referendum a "sham". Citing territorial integrity, the government in Kiev - which has yet to stand for election- said it would refuse to recognize the vote, and that Crimea should be returned to the Ukraine.


KIEV SEEKS CONTROL OF EASTERN UKRAINE
Through a series of coordinated actions by the far-right Kiev government security appointees, the Secretary of National Security and Defence Parubiy (Svoboda), The Secretary of National Security Yarsoh (Right Sector), Deputy Rrime Minister Sych (Svoboda), Acting Chief Prosecutor Makhnitskyy (Svoboda), Security Services Chief Nalyvaichencko, and Minister of Defence Tenhyuk (Svoboda) have embarked on a prgram of troop repositioning and preventive indictments against potential pro-Russian movements.
http://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-ukraine-new-government-
far-right

MORE RUSSIAN-SPEAKING PROVINCES ARRANGE FOR REFERENDA
Russian-speaking Ukrainian troops battle Ukrainian-speaking troops from Kiev and take control of government buildings in Donetsk and other eastern Urkainian cities. Newly appointed "people's governors" arrange for referenda on thefuture of their city, or province.

KIEV CLAIMS RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN DONETSK AND OTHER EASTERN CITIES, SENDS IN MORE TROOPS
Kiev has claimed that Russian troops, disguised as pro-Russian militants, have taken over government buildings and have shot several Ukrainian citizens. Kiev sends in additional troops from western Ukraine to quell these disturbances and oust the invaders.

ON REQUEST FROM PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENTS OF EAST UKRAINE, RUSSIA SENDS IN TROOPS
These troops cross the border to "protect Russian citizens".

THE WEST PLACES ADDITIONAL SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA
In addition to visa restrictions and asset freezes, the West places a general banking freeze on Russian transactions.

RUSSIA PLACES COUNTER-SANCTIONS ON THE WEST
The sale of natural gas is restricted. Russian businesses owing money to western banks and enterprises default. Russia begins a massive US Treasury sale.

KIEV DELAYS NATIONAL ELECTIONS
Citing national security, the transitional government of Kiev has canceled national elections indefinitely. When asked whether this would effect aid and loan guarantees from the West, and IMF loans, western sources and IMF head Christine Lagarde said they did not foresee any difficulty with the Ukrainian government being able to maintain its financial authority over the nation. There are many upcoming agreements to be signed with the EU.

KIEV ANNOUNCES AUSTERITY
Because of the cutoff of natural gas deliveries and the subsequent price hike, the transitional Prime Minister, Arseniy Yatseniuk, has announced that natural gas subsidies would be cut back significantly. The IMF has insisted, as it has done with most of its governmental loans, that subsidies be cut in order to shore up governmental finances. Yatseniuk, himself a banker and favored by the United States to head the transitional government, has full authority to obtain loans and sign international agreements, according to the EU and the USA.

MAIDAN SQUARE ERUPTS AGAIN

THE SVOBODA-PARTY IN CHARGE OF INTERNAL SECURITY BEGINS THE ROUNDUP OF DISAFFECTED UKRAINIANS



It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:22 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.


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Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Thank you, at least it's here.

How many of you thought that Saddam had WMD?
Who among you thought that Assad used chemical weapons in Syria?
How many of you were surprised by 9-11?
Did any of you predict the meltdown of 2008?
Who thought that Russia invaded Georgia unprovoked?

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Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:19 PM

KPO

Anti-Russia before it was cool.



Jongstraw: "If Barry loses the Senate, he will be impeached, convicted, and removed from office. Holder and Rice will be right behind him. Could all be wrapped up by February or March."


It's not personal. It's just war.

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