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The Coming Food Shortage [presented for your easy understanding in 'Rappy dummy talk]

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Sunday, June 10, 2012 07:14
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Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:33 PM

CHRISISALL


Food used to be produced all over. Now it's mainly produced in bigger, fewer industrial farms. They need to transport the food, which costs money. Oil production is not increasing (it really can't at this point). Natural gas is cheap, but that means production will decrease shortly to keep prices high enough for good profits. Wonky weather has and will continue to stagger food production, however, without a backup system of food production (more small farms, simply put), a major drought or freeze will effectively disrupt the whole system. Shipping food is already getting more expensive, but that will increase exponentially in the next decade. Add in a shortage or two, and you can expect your food bill to double easily by 2025. Oh, and wages will not be increasing in accordance with prices.

Energy prices dictate food prices.
The need for profit dictates energy production and prices.
Energy prices have nowhere to go but up.
Individual earning has nowhere to go but sideways.

Are you all ready for milk at $10 a gallon (conservative estimate)?




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Saturday, June 9, 2012 2:44 PM

DREAMTROVE


Everyone will grow their own food, it doesn't take much space. We can produce a near infinite quantity of food, be very wary of anyone trying to manage your food distribution. This has been the force of almost all the major famines of the modern age, that, rather than drought, is the major threat.

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Saturday, June 9, 2012 3:04 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Everyone will grow their own food, it doesn't take much space.

LOL, before, or AFTER society breaks down?

Oh, and in 'Rappy Dummy Talk- grow food good/ buy packaged corporate 'food product' bad.
Remember that after the Sustenance Wars; it will help immensely.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

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Saturday, June 9, 2012 7:51 PM

DREAMTROVE


regardless of how much power they have locally, it's important to remember that they only claim it globally, they don't really have it. They'll back off as soon as someone gives them a serious ass whooping, by which I don't mean afghanistan, being beaten up by primitive toughs doesn't bug them, it's when their ace military hardware gets its ass kicked by something that looks like it came from a spaceship. When that happens, they'll back the fuck down.

As for the collapse of society, either way. You can ideally feed 8 people on an acre of land, and people will just go out and do it. And they've already called out the predator drones on this sort of thing. I figure we all have to have a dozen kids because TPTB are planning to kill 6 billion of us, and we can either have that totally decimate the world population, or we can have it be a tragic fact of life, life cancer.

I guess cancer is the best possible image that TPTB could have, they're not getting any prettier, and people still suck up to these shmucks. I know folks who still worship Obama, and one who thinks that Romney will save him.

Anyway, collapse of society, yeah, i wish, but as i said, i don't pay a lot of attention to "the end is nigh" that message is as old as time. Unfortunately, things don't actually change that radically.

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Saturday, June 9, 2012 9:44 PM

CATPIRATE


First, I thought this was PNs post.

Well last summer Hilary Clinton did talk about the new colonization of Africa. The new powers on the block are China, India, and Brazil. Growing population with growing wealth. All in the space race as well. The Arabs are buying a lot of land in Australia and New Zealand. The think tanks of the world have data on a population explosion in the Pacific Rim within 30 years. So get your farm and ranch land now to feed your people. Seed will be the new gold. For a young person 10 years ago seems like a life time. But for me it's like yesterday. When I go to the grocery store I check the price of lemons. 4 for a buck in 2000. Now it's like .75 cents for one.

Soft tissue cancer came from the Polio shots of the 50s. Another way to control the population. HIV from a lab put into monkeys. Spooky.

Solent Green can taste like an In and Out Burger I'll eat it.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:59 AM

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 1:54 AM

PIZMOBEACH

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Food used to be produced all over. Now it's mainly produced in bigger, fewer industrial farms. They need to transport the food, which costs money. Oil production is not increasing (it really can't at this point). Natural gas is cheap, but that means production will decrease shortly to keep prices high enough for good profits. Wonky weather has and will continue to stagger food production, however, without a backup system of food production (more small farms, simply put), a major drought or freeze will effectively disrupt the whole system. Shipping food is already getting more expensive, but that will increase exponentially in the next decade. Add in a shortage or two, and you can expect your food bill to double easily by 2025. Oh, and wages will not be increasing in accordance with prices.

Energy prices dictate food prices.
The need for profit dictates energy production and prices.
Energy prices have nowhere to go but up.
Individual earning has nowhere to go but sideways.

Are you all ready for milk at $10 a gallon (conservative estimate)?






We could all propably use a diet.

Seriously - food producers would never price themselves out of business. They will continue to find ways to stretch their products though and increase their margins, so you can safely expect less food in your food.

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:57 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:

Seriously - food producers would never price themselves out of business. They will continue to find ways to stretch their products though and increase their margins, so you can safely expect less food in your food.


Probably.
No more 1% fat milk, just 1% MILK.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

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Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:14 AM

WHOZIT


That's why the ZOMBIES ARE COMING!!

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