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Your government protecting you from...chocolate eggs

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:37 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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2 Seattle men stopped at border for illegal candy







Wednesday - 7/18/2012, 12:56am ET




SEATTLE (AP) - Two Seattle men say they spent more than two hours in a detention center at the Canadian border after U.S. border agents discovered illegal chocolate eggs in their car.

Brandon Loo and Christopher Sweeney told KOMO-TV ( http://is.gd/usuy85) they decided to bring home some treats for friends and family during a recent trip to Vancouver, British Columbia. They bought Kinder Eggs _ chocolate eggs with a toy inside.

The two men say border guards searched their car and said the eggs are illegal in the United States because young children could choke on the small plastic toys. Importing them can lead to a potentially hefty fine.

Sweeney says the bust was a waste of his time and the agents' time. The men eventually got off with a warning.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman declined to comment about the case Tuesday night.

The agency warned on its website around Easter that the treats can't be imported legally.

The agency says it seized more than 60,000 Kinder Eggs from travelers' baggage and international mail shipments in fiscal 2011.




http://www.wtop.com/681/2947388/2-Seattle-men-stopped-at-border-for-il
legal-candy


In case you're wondering, here's the wiki for Kinder Eggs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Surprise

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:53 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I'm not sure why any detention was warranted here. Easy enough to simply seize the illicit goods and move them right along. No muss, no fuss.

As an aside, I have a strong recollection of seeing such a 'prize inside' egg during my youth, so I wonder if the regulations used to be more relaxed.

--Anthony

ETA: It seems from reading about them that they were always banned. I wonder if I was exposed to an illegal import?


Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:28 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


It's all OBAMA's fault, part of the socialist nanny state over-protectiveness.


Oh, wait--
Quote:



Kinder Eggs are sold all over the world excluding the United States, as the 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act contains a section highlighting that a confectionary product with a non-nutritive object, partially or totally imbedded within it, cannot be sold within the United States, unless the FDA issues a regulation that the non-nutritive object has functional value. No such regulation has been issued. [2]

In 1997, the staff of the CPSC, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, examined and issued a recall for some Kinder Surprise illegally brought into the US with foreign labels. [3]

from Wikipedia

oh, never mind--

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:31 AM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

I don't think anyone suggested Obama was at fault?

--Anthony



Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:32 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
It's all OBAMA's fault, part of the socialist nanny state over-protectiveness.



Ah, citing claims no one ever made. Are you Kiki in disguise?

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:32 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Hang on Geezer - Whozit and Auraptor haven't turned up to the thread yet.

Wait for it...

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:42 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
It's all OBAMA's fault, part of the socialist nanny state over-protectiveness.


Oh, wait--
Quote:



Kinder Eggs are sold all over the world excluding the United States, as the 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act contains a section highlighting that a confectionary product with a non-nutritive object, partially or totally imbedded within it, cannot be sold within the United States, unless the FDA issues a regulation that the non-nutritive object has functional value. No such regulation has been issued. [2]

In 1997, the staff of the CPSC, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, examined and issued a recall for some Kinder Surprise illegally brought into the US with foreign labels. [3]

from Wikipedia

oh, never mind--




Huh. Wonder how Mardi Gras King Cake gets around that ban. I got the baby again this year, so the cake's on me again next year. That's okay- Gambino's is worth the indulgence!



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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:42 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
It's all OBAMA's fault, part of the socialist nanny state over-protectiveness.



Ah, citing claims no one ever made. Are you Kiki in disguise?




Are you?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:08 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
It's all OBAMA's fault, part of the socialist nanny state over-protectiveness.



Ah, citing claims no one ever made. Are you Kiki in disguise?



I didn't cite nobody else's statement. I was offering it as a suggestion myself.

Somewhat ironically, I would admit, but isn't that implied in the thread title? "Your government protecting you from chocolate eggs."

Who is in charge of "your" government? And it's the Feds, too. Who's the big boss of the Feds? Who do you suggest is responsible for the ban? Who did you mean to hold responsible? OH, I know, it wasn't Obama's fault- it was FDR's, he was President in 1938. Another one of his socialist, commie-sellout New Deal ideas that usurped freedom and the people's and state's power to the Big Brother Central government.

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:58 PM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
It's all OBAMA's fault, part of the socialist nanny state over-protectiveness.



Ah, citing claims no one ever made. Are you Kiki in disguise?



I didn't cite nobody else's statement. I was offering it as a suggestion myself.

Somewhat ironically, I would admit, but isn't that implied in the thread title? "Your government protecting you from chocolate eggs."

Who is in charge of "your" government? And it's the Feds, too. Who's the big boss of the Feds? Who do you suggest is responsible for the ban? Who did you mean to hold responsible? OH, I know, it wasn't Obama's fault- it was FDR's, he was President in 1938. Another one of his socialist, commie-sellout New Deal ideas that usurped freedom and the people's and state's power to the Big Brother Central government.



Hello,

In fairness, I think Geezer was suggesting that the government has continuously, over many administrations and political flavors, interfered overmuch with our choices. I did not sense that he was provoking a fight here with Obama or his supporters. It seemed more a generic discontent.

--Anthony






Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz


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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:35 PM

1KIKI

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Geezer gets spastic before elections.


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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:39 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Hang on Geezer - Whozit and Auraptor haven't turned up to the thread yet.

Wait for it...

It's not personal. It's just war.



By your command...

My question is, why is this stuff illegal and yet Mardis Gras King Cakes are sold pretty much anywhere ?

" confectionary product with a non-nutritive object, partially or totally imbedded within it, cannot be sold within the United States " ...

Is the King Cake not confectionery enough ? Is a plastic baby Jesus possessing hidden nutritive qualities ?


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Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:53 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Wot, no kinder surprises?

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:40 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Geezer gets spastic before elections.




So you're saying he suffers from electile dysfunction?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


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Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:13 AM

REDREAD

The poster formerly known as yinyang.


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
My question is, why is this stuff illegal and yet Mardis Gras King Cakes are sold pretty much anywhere ?

" confectionary product with a non-nutritive object, partially or totally imbedded within it, cannot be sold within the United States " ...

Is the King Cake not confectionery enough ? Is a plastic baby Jesus possessing hidden nutritive qualities ?



According to an email from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC):

Quote:

The CPSC staff considered the toys marketed with Ferarro Kinder Surprise Eggs to be intended for children under three years of age. Therefore, they must comply with the small parts requirement under 16 C.F.R. Part 1501. When the toys within the plastic shells that are enclosed in the chocolate, contain small parts and are intended for children under age three years, they are considered banned in the U.S. and cannot be sold. If the toys inside the plastic shell of the chocolate egg does not contain small parts, they are not banned in the United States. In determining what toys and children’s articles are subject to the small parts requirement, CPSC staff considers the following factors under 16 C.F.R. § 1501.2(b): “[T]he manufacturer’s stated intent (such as on a label) if it is a reasonable one; the advertising, promotion, and marketing of the article; and whether the article is commonly recognized as being intended for children under 3.” It is prohibited to sell, offer for sale, manufacturer for sale, distribute in commerce or import in the United States any toy intended for children under three years of age that contains small parts.

source: http://freetheegg.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/cpsc-responds-to-my-email/



The person who received that email says that "I have seen the label on them many time. (sic) They are very clearly marked for OVER the age of three... Ferraro has also said the product is intended for over three." So the logic in this definitely seems faulty.

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