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Everybody ready for the "Mayan Apocalypse"?

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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:54 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Not scientists. It's only ten days away now...and their efforts to provide actual facts haven't deterred some from still believing in it.
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If you want to see a roomful of people roll their eyes, just walk into a gathering of astronomers — or experts on ancient Mesoamerican civilizations, for that matter — and shout, “Mayan apocalypse!” For years now, the idea that the earth will be destroyed in a terrible cataclysm on Dec. 21, 2012, has been bouncing around the Internet and showing up in articles, books and even movies. It’s been the inspiration for get-rich-quick schemes. It’s like Y2K all over again, but at least that episode of end-of-world hysteria was reality-based.

The 2012 apocalypse, by contrast, is just plain nutty. An asteroid is not about to hit the earth. Neither is an imaginary planet called Nibiru. Our world isn’t going to be abruptly flipped upside down like a burger on a griddle. The earth won’t be plunged into a three-day blackout. And contrary to what you’ve been hearing, Maya astrologers never said any of that stuff would actually happen. The idea is so preposterous that a Web search for “Mayan apocalypse” turns up as many spoofs as it does serious discussions.

The truth is a lot more prosaic than what the tinfoil-hat crowd would have you believe. Yes, the Maya had what’s known as a Long Count calendar, and yes, that calendar ends on Dec. 21, 2012. But the delightful thing about calendars — including the one the Maya used — is that they always start over again from zero. Just because we have a record of the Long Count equivalent of last year doesn’t mean the Maya weren’t busy working on next year’s. As for Nibiru, well, never mind. That one was borrowed from the ancient Sumerians, and the original prediction was that we’d get clobbered by the free-range planet in 2003. You might have noticed that that didn’t happen, so the date of arrival was moved up to 2012 to coincide with the Maya silliness. An apocalyptic twofer!More at http://science.time.com/2012/12/12/nasa-versus-the-mayan-madness/


It goes on to talk about people's fears and even a few talking about suicide! He makes a very valid point in saying "The real problem, said Andrew Fraknoi, an astronomer at Foothill College in Los Altos, Calif., during the NASA webcast, 'is that our schools have not taught skeptical thinking, have not taught children to distinguish between fantasy and reality. The real threat in 2012 is the public’s low level of science understanding.'" Boy, is he right about THAT!

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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:59 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Hello,

I think most people are just having fun with this apocalypse thing.

I do think preparations for more rational disaster scenarios are a good idea, though. In Florida, during Hurricane season, stocking a month's worth of food and water is good thinking.

Other plausible disaster scenarios loom for a variety of reasons. It's probably a good idea for everyone to have some simple food staple that will carry them through several months in an emergency.

--Anthony


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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:17 PM

OONJERAH



O I am glad you mentioned this as I am too lazy/preoccupied to do it.

I'm thinkin' of it as the beginning of a new Era, all positive vibes,
merging with the Age of Aquarius.

For beginners, I hope we'll get a few pleasant surprises in the News
on the 21st. :)


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"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oonj, I wish I were as hopeful as you. While I think the apocalypse thing is ridiculous, I don't see us heading in a good direction, and I don't see that changing on the 21st.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:46 PM

OONJERAH



If only I believed in astrology, I'd say that the Sagittarius-Capricorn
cusp is the most magical one ... the Christmas one.

Heading for Hell in a handcart.
Why is the cart slowing down?
'Cause we've almost arrived.
Bad idea.
IDEAS!, Little Buddha.

We need a miracle. I want to be open for that, tho I've never seen one.
Well ... not a big one, anyways.


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"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

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Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:59 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I don't know about anyone else, but I am going to be celebrating my 28th birthday. If celebrations manage to destroy the world, I sincerely apologize


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:28 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




I saw the biggest meteor fireball of my life this week...

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:49 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Any thing to avoid the Christmas season.

Bah humbug.

signed Scrooge.

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:27 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Quote:

Originally posted by PIRATENEWS:


I saw the biggest meteor fireball of my life this week...





Choose the milder form of Chilli next time.

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yep, I'm ready. I have interviews to conduct that day, and more work piled on my desk than I can possibly tackle. A Mayan apocalypse would be a welcome respite. Sadly, it won't happen.

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:51 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I intend to have a little bash the day after to celebrate the discomfort of the disappointed believers.

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Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:40 PM

OONJERAH


My folks have 2 birthdays on the 22nd.
That's how I know the world can't possibly end.



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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:23 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...




THAT is absolutely priceless...first time ever: prize to PN for the first guffaw of the day!

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:46 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I take it back, I won't be celebrating my birthday so much as going to a funeral. Maybe the world is coming to an end...


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:51 PM

OONJERAH



OK, this is IT!

Take your pick for End of the World or New Beginning.

When does the awesomeness start?


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"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

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Friday, December 21, 2012 12:09 AM

FREMDFIRMA



As I said elsewhere, due to my work shift tonight starting at 00:01am 12-21-12 ... and due to what my work is, in fact.

NOT ON MY WATCH.

Ha!
Still spinnin.

You can thank me later, preferably in cash.


-F

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Friday, December 21, 2012 2:05 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

As I said elsewhere, due to my work shift tonight starting at 00:01am 12-21-12 ... and due to what my work is, in fact.

NOT ON MY WATCH.

Ha!
Still spinnin.

You can thank me later, preferably in cash.


-F



My black cat is kind of tripping out this morning. He must sense something...

So I put my red dress on. I'm ready!

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Friday, December 21, 2012 3:07 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Millions of people will die today.


Just like every other day.

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Friday, December 21, 2012 3:18 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
So I put my red dress on. I'm ready!



Pic ?





"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, December 21, 2012 4:38 AM

ROCKETJOCK


A lot of folk are saying the world's going to end today, and Armageddon tired of it! Me, I'm just gonna Ragnarok around the clock, dancing the Apocalypso. And tomorrow, when the gullible try to claim they never really believed it, just tell then "You can't hide your Mayan lies."

In the meantime, have a Blessed Solstice -- that at least will pull off on schedule, I'm sure.

"We will all go directly to our respective Valhallas -- Go directly, do not pass 'Go', do not collect two hundred dollahs!" -- Tom Leher

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Friday, December 21, 2012 5:05 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


World class humor can be found here!

Phoenix- so sorry about the passing of a loved one. Hugs.

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Friday, December 21, 2012 6:11 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I don't know about anyone else, but I am going to be celebrating my 28th birthday. If celebrations manage to destroy the world, I sincerely apologize


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.



Well, happy Birthday! (ETD: Whoops, just read further along as saw read about the funeral - sorry) So far, the world is still here.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." -- Rick "Frothy" Santorum

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Friday, December 21, 2012 8:50 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


My sympathies as well, that's awful, to have your day of celebration turn into one of sorrow.

As I was turning off the TV last night, the documentary "2012: The True Mayan Prophecy" came on (also available in DVD form). It was very educational. It showed actual Mayans--yes, they still exist and are gaining respect and returning to their cultural roots--scientists, and a number of Nobel Peace Laureates like Archbishop Desmond Tutu,the Dalai Lama, and other religious leaders. It focused on 1992 Nobel Peace Laureate and Mayan leader Rigoberta Menchu Tum.

The crux of it, not surprisingly, is that everyone has misunderstood the Mayan "prophecy". It's not the end date; it's twenty years into a forty-year period of upheaval which we will or will not emerge from as a better world, IF we do the right things.

Took some looking, but I found the essence of what I heard from the Mayan leader (also winner of Nobel Peace Prize):
Quote:

Yes thing are in a state of chaos on the planet at this time. That is a natural occurence when there is a change of cycles. The shift began in 1992. The Mayans say that there is a 40 year period during which things fall apart and then rebuild into something new. We are in that change period.

Mother earth has been abused, polluted and totally disregarded by modern man. The perception is that the earth is a dead thing that is here for us to subjugate and plunder. That is not true. The old cultures realized that the earth is very much alive and what we do to it, we do to ourselves. We could not exist without her help. Mother Earth is alive and rebelling at how we treat her. That is why we are having all the storms, the floods, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and more. We need to shift our perspective and start giving back to her instead of just taking from her.More at http://ancientspiritwisdom.com/the-real-2012-mayan-prophecy-brings-no-
danger.html


That particular blog is about many things, and I don't recommend it, it's just the first thing I came across that explained in brief what the actual Mayan prophecy IS.

Everything we see in the world around us pretty much fits with what these leaders had to say. I happen to agree with many of their points, I just don't share their sense of optimism.

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Friday, December 21, 2012 9:19 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
So I put my red dress on. I'm ready!



Pic ?







If anyone knows how to dress for the end of the world, it's Jessica Rabbit.

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Friday, December 21, 2012 10:36 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I take it back, I won't be celebrating my birthday so much as going to a funeral. Maybe the world is coming to an end...


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.



What happened?

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Friday, December 21, 2012 10:46 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
So I put my red dress on. I'm ready!



Pic ?







If anyone knows how to dress for the end of the world, it's Jessica Rabbit.



*Nods enthusiastically!*



"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." - Socrates

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:33 AM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


As someone who was in Mayaland a few days ago I can honestly and with authority say that the only people worried about this were uneducated Americans who don't know anything about the Mayan calendar. All the real Mayans were just hangin out doing what they always do, work, visit, etc. etc. no big thing, just the next step in time.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:10 PM

DREAMTROVE


A Riona a achara

yes, we made up the end of the world. They said a god was coming down, and that god has an uncanny amount in common with the christian god, which is apparently coincidence, but then never thought the world would end because of it.

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Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

yes, we made up the end of the world
Funny how religions work like that.

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Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:38 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


If the world was going to end I couldn't think of a better time, I was flying home from my two week vacation to parts warm and sunny, where I swam and sang and met people and had a wonderful time, life was good and why not end on a good note? But here I am, back home, back to the rain and reality. I miss the ship, I had a standing gig in Ron's lounge where I would sing a couple of songs at ten each night and I could swim in the ocean at the ports we stopped at. Life was good.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:59 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Thanks for the sympathies, everyone. Glad the world is still here.

Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I take it back, I won't be celebrating my birthday so much as going to a funeral. Maybe the world is coming to an end...


What happened?



My oldest friend died last week at twenty-five. Mortician ruled the cause as respiratory failure (combo sinus infection, asthma, and I'm guessing some valium, though I haven't heard official word on the tox screen.) Basically, she went to sleep on Thursday night and never woke up. She worked too hard, she never took time for herself, her weight was problematic, she was ill... but I hardly expected it, at her age. No one did.
I suppose the only good news is that I probably won't have a worse birthday for as long as I live. The overabundance of doom and gloom in the air this week will be tough to outstrip.


What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

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Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:10 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I'm so sorry, Rose, the unexpected ones are, to me, the worst. I guess if you have to go, that's the way, but it doesn't change it for those left behind. We had a really nice neighbor across the street who actually died at aerobics class! You just never know, and too many people work too hard these days.

Here's to better times...

Tit for tat got us where we are today. If we want to be grownups, we need to resist the ugliness. If we each did, this would be a better reflection on Firefly and a more welcome place. I will try.

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Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh dear. I'm so sorry ROSE.

My mom just passed away late November because of respiratory failure, but she had COPD and she was very elderly, so as sad as it was, it wasn't a surprise. But 25 years old??? That is shocking and tragic. I can't imagine, I really can't. Can you envision sympathy pouring to you from here? That's what's happening.

Many hugs ROSE; and please take care of yourself.

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Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:29 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Signe a chara, I'm really sorry about your mother's passing, its still hard even if you know its coming. How is your DD doing with it, I assume she knew it would happen, but its still hard losing a grandparent, though losing a parent is harder to be sure.

Rose I'm sorry that your longtime friend passed so young, that's scary when it happens suddenly to someone in their 20s. My condolences.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, December 24, 2012 2:54 PM

DREAMTROVE


Rose

Sorry to hear, dont know what else to say. The young people who have died in my life have been mostly suicicdes and car crashes, and more rarely aids, and two to cancer, which can also be surprising at that age, and now two to homocide, but never just a sudden respritory failure like that.

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