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The Rehabilitation of George W Bush's legacy

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UPDATED: Thursday, April 25, 2013 03:36
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Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:49 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


http://t.co/44fTwrvhsr

An interesting article, referencing a couple of other articles on the subject before the author sums up with his own conclusions about how history will judge W:

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4) Five years later, is there any dimension of George W. Bush's legacy that will improve with time? Actually, I think the answer is yes on a few fronts.

First, he's been a great ex-president. For such a polarizing political figure, it's remarkable at how successfully Bush has receded into private life. Lest you think that this was his only option, let me introduce you to Dick Cheney's post-vice-presidential path.

Second, ironically, Bush's legacy will be a bit more buoyant because the quality of post-Bush GOP thinking on foreign policy has been so piss-poor that Bush really does look good by comparison. It is worth remembering that, for all of the criticisms of Bush's foreign policy rhetoric, he kept anti-Muslim hysteria somewhat in check. He boosted foreign aid through PEPFAR, which might be his most significant foreign policy legacy. And the Bush foreign policy of 2008 looked dramatically different from the Bush foreign policy of 2003, which suggests some degree of adaptation and learning.

Third, the performance of Bush's economic team in the immediate aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis probably deserves more credit than it gets. Despite being a wildly unpopular lame-duck president, Bush still was able to implement a series of international moves (convening the G-20 rather than the G-8) and domestic moves (TARP, the auto bailout) that prevented the crisis from metastasizing into another Great Depression.

All that said, however, there are some cold hard facts that cannot be erased. George W. Bush helmed a war of choice that proved, in the end, to impose powerful constraints (though perhaps not system-changing) for American foreign policy. He pursued his foreign policy aims in such a way as to dramatically lower U.S. standing abroad. He was at the helm when all of the pressures that triggered the 2008 financial crisis were building up and did next to nothing to stop them. And five years later, the GOP is still wrestling with the negative aspects of his political legacy.

At best, George W. Bush was a well-meaning man who gave the occasional nice speech and was thoroughly overmatched by events. At worst, he was the most disastrous foreign policy president of the post-1945 era.

Am I missing anything?


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Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:56 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Nope, I think he pretty much got it with that final paragraph. I disagree that "First, he's been a great ex-president", however. OTHER ex-Presidents have DONE THING (like virtually eradicated the horrors of the Guinea Worm and putting up hundreds of thousands of latrines--Jimmy Carter--or the Clinton Global Initiative, to mention just two)...I don't think keeping a low profile makes Dubya a "great ex-president".

Bush's main act as ex-Prez? Polish his image for "history":
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Bush's Legacy of Atrocities Is Nowhere to Be Seen at His New Library

George W. Bush presided over an international network of torture chambers and, with the help of a compliant Congress and press, launched a war of aggression that killed hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. However, instead of the bloody details of his time in office being recounted at a war crimes tribunal, the former president has been able to bank on his imperial privilege – and a network of rich corporate donors that he made richer while in office – to tell his version of history at a library in Texas being opened in his name.

Kill a few, they call you a murderer. Kill tens of thousands, they give you $500 million for a granite vanity project and a glossy 30-page supplement in the local paper.

Before getting into that, some facts. According to the US government, more than 100,000 people died following the 2003 invasion of Iraq; of that number, 4,486 were members of the US military. Other estimates place the figure at closer to one million deaths as a result of Bush's defining act in office: an aggressive war waged against a non-threat and which even some of his own advisers admit was illegal. So far, the wars started by Bush and continued by his heir, Barack Obama, have cost upwards of $3.1 trillion. That's money that could have been spent saving lives and building things, not ending and destroying them.

But that's not going to be the narrative at the George W. Bush Presidential Library, opening this week in Dallas, Texas. No, that's going to be: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11 (see also: 9/11).

Called the “Day of Fire,” a main attraction at the new library will be a display on the events of September 11, 2001, where “video images from the attacks flash around a twisted metal beam recovered from the wreckage of the World Trade Center,” according to the Associated Press.

“It's very emotional and very profound,” Bush explained in an interview. “One of the reasons it has to be is because memories are fading rapidly and the profound impact of that attack is becoming dim with time.” That is to say, the former president has a keen interest in fanning the embers of outrage over the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans more than a decade ago lest the world view him poorly for the dozens of 9/11s he perpetrated not just on Iraq, but Afghanistan. Never forget the harm done to us or you just might remember the harm we inflicted on others. More at http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/bushs-legacy-atrocities-no
where-be-seen-his-new-library-and-local-paper-wont


And let's not forget about that report from the bi-partisan panel that just came out which found conclusively that "U.S. Practiced Widespread Torture, Torture Has “No Jusification” and Doesn’t Yield Significant Information, Nation’s Highest Officials Bear Responsibility". That one's getting its very own thread...


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Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:28 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Saw a piece on this subject, over on Yahoo, I think.

Smelled seriously of spin doctoring. It blamed Obama for the TARP bailout, as a bad idea. Same one that these folks are saying G W fought for.
Also suggested that folks remember the early GWB years as economically good, as compared to the Obama years. 'Course they were, before GWB's policies caused the CRASH, which we're still recovering from.

E-T-A-
And he's better than "post Bush GOP" foreign policy thinking ? UH-huh..
But I did see a thing where he prevented terrorist attacks on the homeland after 9/11, unlike the current administration...
end E-T-A.

And giving GWB credit for receding quietly into private life after he was Pres? Hell, he got out of town with the posse hot on his trail, and he's been hiding out ever since. Of course he's gonna recede quietly-- if he doesn't, they'll be after him again, charging him in court with war crimes, instead of just in the media and published reports.

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Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Hell, he got out of town with the posse hot on his trail, and he's been hiding out ever since. Of course he's gonna recede quietly-- if he doesn't, they'll be after him again, charging him in court with war crimes, instead of just in the media and published reports.

Hee, hee, hee; Newold, you made me smile.


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Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:13 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


and this , this morning:

Bush shone after Katrina


CNN Opinion headline, on the CNN.com homepage.

The link to the Story:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/25/opinion/brazile-katrina-bush/index.html?
hpt=hp_bn7



Her point seems to be that he recovered well after " Heckuva job, Brownie!" and the other assorted failures before, during, and immediately after Katrina.

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Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:36 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


You can polish a turd all you want, it's still a turd...hopefully REAL history will remember some of the truth, anyway...

Then again, look how 99.9% of the population "remember" Lincoln...


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