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Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:09 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Pretty remarkable and telling of the state of how extremely Left wing the media are these days.

The facts presented to Congress by the 3 whistle blowers was unassailable, and yet, the best the Democrats could do was not question THEIR motives, but claim that this whole affair MIGHT be used as political fodder against Hillary and Obama.

So fucking what ?

They dropped the ball. Multiple times. Then they lied. Routinely. The evidence is undeniable.

But it was 9/11. ( Obama had already killed UBL, so al-Qaeda was on the run, finished, and done with )

But there was an upcoming election. ( And the need to divert attention away from this colossal screw up superseded any and all else )

Where , exactly, WAS the President for those 7-8 hours, while this attack was taking place ?

Who ordered our forces, which WERE in range and ready to come to the aid of the ambassador, to stand down ? That's something only the President can do So, did he ? And if so - why ? If he didn't, then who did ??

Falsely claiming that no assets were with in range to have done any good is an empty defense, as it suggests that someone knew how long this attack was going to take place. ( And THAT claim can't be made unless someone actually DID know how long these attacks were going to last, which is a place I don't think anyone wants to go to or is even suggesting )

Also, claiming that we didn't have any assets that could deploy in such a timely fashion tells our enemies SO VERY MUCH bout the true readiness of the US military. ( or lack there of )


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Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:01 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


http://news.yahoo.com/watergate-revenge-republicans-yearning-impeach-o
bama-over-benghazi-070000249.html


Watergate Revenge: Republicans Yearning to Impeach Obama Over Benghazi 'Cover-Up'
Joe Conason's column, form Yahoo News Opinion:
Quote:


Less than four months after Barack Obama's inauguration, the right-wing propaganda machine is already promoting the only imaginable conclusion to a Democratic administration that dares to achieve a second term: impeachment. Once confined to the ranks of the birthers, the fantasy of removing President Obama from office is starting to fester in supposedly saner minds.

Certainly impeachment is on the mind of Mike Huckabee, the Fox News commentator who — as a former governor of Arkansas and political antagonist of Bill Clinton — can be expected to know something about the subject. On Monday, he predicted that the president will be forced from office before the end of his term by the controversy over the Benghazi consulate attack last September. According to Huckabee, while the Watergate scandal was "bad," Benghazi is worse because four Americans died there, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

The proximate cause for impeaching Obama, he suggested, is the "cover-up" of the facts concerning Benghazi. Moreover, he said, if the Democrats "try to protect the president and their party, and do so at the expense of the truth, they will go down." When "the facts come out," predicted Huckabee, "something will start" and ultimately the Democrats will lose "the right to govern."

Presumably Huckabee believes impeachment would be easier than winning a national election. He isn't alone in ruminating on the removal of a president who just won re-election last November — not on Fox News, anyway. (The ever-crafty Huck hedged by noting, however, that none of this will come to pass if Democrats win the midterm elections next year.)

Meanwhile, former U.N. ambassador John Bolton, whose cranky pronouncements continue to embarrass responsible conservatives, upped the ante by confiding what Huckabee left out — namely, that like every desperate Republican, he yearns for a Benghazi scandal that will stick. If there was no cover-up, Bolton insisted with characteristically twisted logic that would prove Obama (the president who dispatched Osama bin Laden) simply doesn't understand the ongoing threat from al-Qaida. "If it was merely a political cover-up," he noted with satisfaction, "then there can be a political cost to pay."

No doubt both Bolton and Huckabee — not to mention Rep. Darrell Issa, whose House Government Reform Committee maintains an ongoing Benghazi probe — plan to charge that cost not only to Obama but to a certain woman who now leads every 2016 presidential poll.

The meager substance of the "cover-up" canard was debunked months ago —and to date nothing has emerged to change those facts. (Indeed, even some of the most gullible denizens of Fox Nation have rejected the attempted frame-up lately.) Were the Republicans interested in constructive change rather than invented conspiracies, they might consult the Benghazi testimony of former general David Petraeus and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as well as the unvarnished report by former ambassador Thomas Pickering and Admiral Mike Mullen.




There's a WHOLE LOT MORE. I'd quote the entire column, but it's way too long for here.

Short answer: the Repub's and right wingers are STILL trying to get even for NIXON; they want another scalp besides Bill Clinton; they can't WIN a Presidential election without STEALING it; and this is a partisan campaign tactic for 2016.

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:20 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

Short answer: the Repub's and right wingers are STILL trying to get even for NIXON; they want another scalp besides Bill Clinton; they can't WIN a Presidential election without STEALING it; and this is a partisan campaign tactic for 2016.


The GOP won 2 Presidential elections , in 2000 and 2004. Another in '88, and two more in '84 and '80.

Your claims are laughably false.

This has zero to do w/ Nixon. This has EVERYTHING to do w/ getting to the facts of what happened that night, where was the President, who gave the order to stand down, and why was security scaled back by Hillary ?

Nothing remotely partisan here, just honest, sincere questions that need answering.

Why does that piss of the Left so damn much ?

Oh, right... party first, at all cost.

Got it.

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:08 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Nothing remotely partisan here,




"These aren't the droids you're looking for."

"He can go on his way."

"Nothing to see here, nothing remotely partisan..."

Yeah, right...

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


...and why was security scaled back by Hillary ?




Because the security budget was cut by Congress?



Quote:


Nothing remotely partisan here, just honest, sincere questions that need answering.





Riiiiiii-iiight - you just never had any of those questions during any of the previous dozens of embassy/consulate attacks during the Bush years, when at least 13 people were killed.

Oddly, FauxNews had zero questions and less than zero outrage about those deaths, too.

But there's "nothing remotely partisan" in your questions. Sure thing, skippy.

Why does that piss of the Left so damn much ?

Oh, right... party first, at all cost.

Got it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:07 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


more proof of media bias. Or not...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/09/opinion/rothkopf-benghazi-hearing/index.
html?hpt=hp_t4

Quote:



Benghazi hearing's real target: Clinton in 2016
By David Rothkopf, Special to CNN

Editor's note: David Rothkopf writes regularly for CNN.com. He is CEO and editor-at-large of the FP Group, publishers of Foreign Policy magazine, and a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Follow him on Twitter.

(CNN) -- Rep. Darrell Issa must be ruing his bad luck. The hearing he carefully orchestrated to pick at the scab of Benghazi was stepped on by the verdict in the Jodi Arias murder trial and by the story of three women held captive and brutalized for a decade in Cleveland. He was out-sensationalized and out-tawdried this week despite his own best efforts and those of his committee colleagues and staff members.

That is not to say that the tragic events that unfolded last year in Benghazi are not worthy of serious investigation. They just didn't get them from Issa's committee. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in her passionate testimony in December, we need to know what went wrong to prevent future tragedies. That's why she began an investigation immediately after the attacks. But Issa and his co-inquisitors were more interested in the arithmetic of 2016 presidential politics than with the events of last September 11 in Libya.



That's the lede. There's a lot more...

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)





To quote Rappy:

"People die every day."


He has also claimed that only "the Left" would use any such deaths as political fodder to push an agenda, and seems to believe it's craven to trot out the numbers of dead.



But this is different. Because this time, it's the right who want to trot out the dead for political gain, so that makes it all good in RappyLand™.







"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:33 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




From Soledad O'Brien's interview with Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT):

Quote:

O’BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?
CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have — think about this — 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, private army there for President Obama in Baghdad.
And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.




"And we're talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you're in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this."


Clearly Chaffetz's priorities did not include any more help or protection for the diplomatic mission in Libya.


Of course, Rappy has zero questions to ask Chaffetz or the House of Representatives. But surely that's not due to any kind of partisan bias on his part. Nahhhhhh - couldn't be, could it?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:41 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


GOP Star Witnesses Debunk Right-Wing Benghazi Conspiracy Theories

Quote:

The “whistleblowers” at today’s House Oversight Committee hearing on what really happened in Benghazi, Libya last September were supposed to break the dam that would lead to President Obama’s eventual downfall, in the eyes of conservatives. Instead, these witness actually served to debunk several theories that the right-wing has pushed on Benghazi, leaving the hearing a fizzle for the GOP:
1. F-16s could have been sent to Benghazi
Part of the prevailing theory surrounding the events the night of the Benghazi attacks is that the Obama administration did not do enough militarily to respond to the crisis. Gregory Hicks — a Foreign Service Officer and the former Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya — claimed during his pre-hearing testimony that fighter jets could have been flown over Benghazi, preventing the second wave of the attack from occurring.
Ranking Member Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) questioned that statement, asking Hicks whether he disagreed with Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff Gen Martin Dempsey’s assessment that no air assets were in range the night of the attack. Hicks didn’t disagree, saying he was “speaking from [his] perspective” and what “veteran Libyan revolutionaries” told him, rather than Pentagon assessments.
2. Hillary Clinton signed cables denying additional security to Benghazi
House Republicans came to the conclusion in their interim report on Benghazi that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lied to them about what she knew and when during her testimony this January. This includes her statement that at no time was she aware of requests for additional security at the diplomatic facility in Benghazi prior to the attack.
Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) used her time to take issue with this claim, asking all three witnesses about standard protocol for cables leaving the State Department. All three agreed with Maloney, that the Secretary of State’s name is placed at the bottom of all outgoing cables and telegrams from Foggy Bottom, whether the Secretary has viewed them or not, shooting down the GOP claim.
3. A Special Forces Team that could have saved lives was told to stand down
One of the most shocking reveals in the lead-up to today’s hearing was that a team of Special Forces in Tripoli were told not to deploy to Benghazi during the attack. That decision has led to an uproar on the right, including claims of dereliction of duty towards Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey for not taking actions that could have saved lives.
During questioning, Hicks confirmed that the team was ready to be deployed — not to join the fighting at the CIA annex — but “to secure the airport for the withdrawal of our personnel from Benghazi after the mortar attack.” Hicks also confirmed that it was the second such team to be readied for deployment, with the first having proceeded to Benghazi earlier. Despite the second team not deploying, the staff was all evacuated first to Tripoli, then to Germany, within 18 hours of the attack taking place.

4. The State Department’s Accountability Review Board isn’t legitimate
Republicans have been attacking the State Department’s official in-house review of the shortcomings seen before, during, and after the assault in Benghazi. That criticism prompted House Republicans to write their own report. When asked point blank about the recommendations of the Board, however, the witnesses didn’t cooperate with the GOP narrative. “Absolutely,” Eric Nordstrom, the Regional Security Officer for Libya prior to the assault in Benghazi, answered when asked if he believes implementing the recommendations would improve security. “I had an opportunity to review that along with other two committee reports. I think taken altogether, they’re fairly comprehensive and reasonable.” Hicks, when questioned, said that while he had some issues with the process by which the Board gathered its information, he demurred on criticizing the report itself.



http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/08/1982151/witnesses-debunk-
benghazi
/






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


13 Benghazis on Bush's watch. Zero outrage from "the Right".


But again, Rappy has to insist that this is NOT remotely a partisan thing.


Anyone believe him yet?

Quote:

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.



http://thedailybanter.com/2013/05/13-benghazis-that-occurred-on-bushs-
watch-without-a-peep-from-fox-news
/





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:41 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Fair & Balanced? They need a sarcasm emoticon for that!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/08/fox-news-host-on-benghazi-were-g
etting-a-little-lopsided-by-favoring-republicans
/

Quote:

Fox News host Megyn Kelly admitted on Wednesday that the conservative network’s coverage of that day’s Benghazi hearings had been a “little lopsided” after Democratic lawmakers were repeatedly cut off for commercial breaks.

Following opening statements, Fox News aired all of the questions House Oversight Committee Chair Darrel Issa (R-CA) had for the witnesses he had called, but the network cut to former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton for reaction when Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MA) began presenting his questions.
Users on Twitter complained as they noticed a pattern each time Fox News cut away from the hearings.

“HILARIOUS Fox News taking a commerical break during Democrats #Benghazi questions…,” Unitedliberals tweeted. “Fox News instead of airing Carolyn Maloney’s questions during #Benghazi hearing they are RE-airing clips from 20 minutes ago #LOL.”

“Fox News coverage @ Benghazi hearing/ no interruption of Republican spkrs, commercials and commentary ovr Democrats. Fair and balanced? BS!” Kevin Larkin wrote.

After over three hours of hearings, Fox News Megyn Kelly acknowledged that the coverage had not been fair and balanced.

“We’re trying to get in our commercial breaks here and now we’re getting a little lopsided in terms of the Democrats versus the Republicans, so we’re going to try to rectify that for you after the break,” she promised.

In fact, Fox News only provided another 10 minutes of live video from the hearings during the next hour. Instead, the network asked Bolton and Fox News host Oliver North to comment.




When even your bleach-blonde spokesmodel can't ignore your obvious bias, you know you're not a real news agency.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:45 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Jon Stewart nails it, as usual:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-8-2013/the-big-benghazi-theo
ry






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, May 10, 2013 12:47 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/09/politics/clinton-benghazi/index.html?hpt
=hp_bn3


Republican spotlight shifts from Obama to Clinton
By Paul Steinhauser
Quote:


Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama's been in the bull's eye of Republicans and conservatives since 2008, but after Wednesday's hearing on last September's terror attack in Benghazi, Libya, many on the right are shifting their aim at former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Soon after the hearing by the GOP-led House Oversight Committee looking into the events surrounding the death of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, a recently formed pro-Republican opposition research group blasted out an e-mail with the headline "Benghazi Hearing Raises Serious Questions About Clinton."

America Rising PAC then followed up Thursday with a Web video which it says outlines "the serious questions raised about Hillary Clinton's leadership yesterday in a House Oversight Committee hearing."

The Republican National Committee and American Crossroads, the Karl Rove-backed pro-GOP super PAC, also issued e-mails critical of Clinton, America's top diplomat at the time of the attack last September 11. And Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, a possible 2016 GOP White House contender, criticized Clinton in an interview on Thursday on Fox News Channel.


that's just the highlight. There's more...
nothing political here. Karl Rove and Fox News. Oh, yeah, I forgot-- everybody else is biased toward the Left. They're fair and balanced.., Yah, sure, you betcha.

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Friday, May 10, 2013 1:16 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



So, just because the GOP want nothing more than to oust, defeat, and politically bludgeon the President and the Dems, that means there's NOTHING the Dems can do that can't be scrutinized or questioned ?

That seems to be the basis for your argument here.

Fact is, one has nothing to do w/ the other.

Those in charge dropped the ball, on purpose, and then lied about it to the American people. They put their own politics well above the good of the nation and the good of those in Benghazi.

Unbelievably heartless, is just the start.


And Kwickie, you're again, mixing apples and oranges. How many ambassadors were murdered ? How many Americans ? And how many hours did those attacks last, where help could have been sent, but none was given, because a President had already declared bin Laden dead and didn't want to be bothered by trivial details of the real world, when he had an election to get ready for in just about 2 months? You lie, you twist the story, you try to equivocate to explain away the actions of this admin, and pretend that Bush did the exact same thing, ( when he absolutely didn't) as if that makes it ' O.K. '.

It doesn't.

I know Jon Stewart is your hero. You really wish you could be just like him. A court jester, unaccountable to the facts, just spewing out random comments, and then making funny faces, or using silly accents, and thinking he's made any valid points. He hasn't, or have you.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, May 10, 2013 2:32 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)






"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, May 10, 2013 2:37 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)








"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, May 10, 2013 2:43 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

So, just because the GOP want nothing more than to oust, defeat, and politically bludgeon the President and the Dems, that means there's NOTHING the Dems can do that can't be scrutinized or questioned ?

That seems to be the basis for your argument here.

Fact is, one has nothing to do w/ the other.

Those in charge dropped the ball, on purpose, and then lied about it to the American people. They put their own politics well above the good of the nation and the good of those in Benghazi.

Unbelievably heartless, is just the start.


And Kwickie, you're again, mixing apples and oranges. How many ambassadors were murdered ? How many Americans ? And how many hours did those attacks last, where help could have been sent, but none was given, because a President had already declared bin Laden dead and didn't want to be bothered by trivial details of the real world, when he had an election to get ready for in just about 2 months? You lie, you twist the story, you try to equivocate to explain away the actions of this admin, and pretend that Bush did the exact same thing, ( when he absolutely didn't) as if that makes it ' O.K. '.




Where did I "lie"?

Quote:


I know Jon Stewart is your hero. You really wish you could be just like him. A court jester, unaccountable to the facts, just spewing out random comments, and then making funny faces, or using silly accents, and thinking he's made any valid points.




Yeah, to about the same degree that you want to be just like Limbaugh. Careful with the oxy, boy - I hear it can be a bugger to kick!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, May 10, 2013 3:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I know Jon Stewart is your hero. You really wish you could be just like him. A court jester, unaccountable to the facts, just spewing out random comments, and then making funny faces, or using silly accents, and thinking he's made any valid points. He hasn't, or have you.



Looks like someone let Mike have two cups of coffee today. He's really crankin' it out.


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Friday, May 10, 2013 5:24 AM

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more evidence of liberal media bias:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/09/politics/king-benghazi/index.html?hpt=hp
_t3


John King: Benghazi investigation both legitimate and partisan
Quote:


( some snipped )
Democrats are quick to suggest it is Rubio playing politics, noting his own interest in a possible 2016 presidential campaign. Democrats make the same argument when asked about the harsh criticisms of Kentucky GOP Sen. Rand Paul, another potential 2016 Republican contender.

Paul calls Clinton's handling of Benghazi a "dereliction of duty" that, in his view, disqualifies her from higher office.

( some snipped )

Among the conservatives urging House Republicans to demand answers from Clinton directly is former Vice President Dick Cheney.

On Thursday, Cheney spoke to the weekly "Theme Team" meeting organized by House conservatives and two people present at the breakfast said the former vice president said if Clinton declined to voluntarily answer questions, then she should be subpoenaed to testify.

Another veteran of the George W. Bush administration also weighed in Thursday, in a way that highlights the intersection of Benghazi oversight and Benghazi politics.

In an e-mail sent to conservatives, former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton said, "What happened with Benghazi is not how it's supposed to be handled and I think it could be a hinge point for the Obama administration."

The Bolton note was distributed by the House GOP's campaign arm -- the National Republican Congressional Committee -- and asks for political contributions to the GOP. In fact, if you click on the links in that Bolton e-mail, it takes you to an NRCC fund-raising website that declares "Benghazi was a cover-up" over a photograph of Clinton and President Barack Obama.




Yepper, all any of these great patriotic Americans care about is what's good for the country. No concern at all about 2016. Of course not.


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Friday, May 10, 2013 5:39 AM

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Aha! Another media voice:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/05/10/it_didn_t_happen_here_or_
why_mitt_romney_was_never_going_to_win_the_2012.html



It Didn't Happen Here; Or, Why Mitt Romney Was Never Going to Win the 2012 Election Over Benghazi
By David Weigel

Quote:




Jonathan Karl, who's own the politics-of-Benghazi beat all week, obtains a campaign ad that the RNC designed but never release in the fall of 2012. It's simple, which lends its some emotional punch.

Because it broke in the final stretch of the election, Benghazi was always covered as a political story -- something that could beat Barack Obama. Hence the outrage over the administration's early talking points, and the questions about why "terror" sliced out of them. "We have a pretty good gut feeling as to why the talking points were changed," said Sean Hannity after Wednesday's hearing. "It was in the heat of an election."

But why are Republicans convinced that this would have altered the election? Four Americans died in the attack in Benghazi. For the first time since the Carter administration, a diplomat was among the fallen. That was unspinnable. That did a certain amount of damage to the Obama campaign, like it should have. Where Hannity et al lose people is on the "cover up" -- why would the phrasing of talking points have ended the outrage? Why, because the administration was telling voters that the death of Osama bin Laden effectively ended the war on terror, and that there was nothing new to fear, so we could go on not talking about "Islamism" and be perfectly safe.

This was never going to work. We learned why not during the election, but during the weeks around the George W. Bush Presidential Center dedication. Bush, you'll remember, was president during the deadliest terrorist attack ever on American soil. Yet Bush's defenders credited him with Keeping America Safe. How? As Jennifer Rubin put it (though you could quote one of dozens of pundits) "there was no successful attack on the homeland after 9/11" while Bush was at the wheel.

This is mockable (Charlie Pierce calls it the "great mulligan") but astute. Bush got re-elected on this theory. Americans are fretful about terrorism only to the extent that it might kill them in America. The Bush-era response to terrorism led to two fitfully successful land wars in central Asia, with thousands of military deaths; more relevantly, when we're talking Benghazi, the Bush years saw 64 attacks of varying scale on American diplomats and embassies. None of them hurt his re-election. A terrorist attack of the same scale in, say, Indianapolis would have. Not overseas.

As a pure election-time issue, Benghazi reminded me of the 2004 "Rathergate" controversy. The common attack on CBS News at the time, after it ran stories about George W. Bush's National Guard service, was that it was trying to "bring down the president." That assumed a lot of voters who'd elected Bush once, knowing he'd merely served in the Texas Air National Guard during Vietnam, but would be so angry at the new details that they'd reject him. Was anyone in the Obama administration, in September 2012, worried that classifying the Benghazi attack as "terrorism" would hurt their jobs? It seems that way, though I guess the president undercut them on September 12 by putting the attack in the context of "acts of terror."


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Friday, May 10, 2013 5:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


Unbelievably heartless, is just the start.


And Kwickie, you're again, mixing apples and oranges. How many ambassadors were murdered ? How many Americans ?



And you don't give a rat's ass about anybody who is below the rank of ambassador? Or care about foreigners who were working for the U.S. government, and got killed defending U.S. interests? NOBODY matters but AMERICANS?

Best watch which Kettle you call heartless, there , Mr. Pot.

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Friday, May 10, 2013 6:01 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, Mike, that Stewart clip is PRICELESS!!!

Iran-Contra, PLUS Watergate, TIMES ten...

These guys have truly, TRULY lost it!

Un-be-fucking-LIEVable (wipes tears from eye)...poor things have completely lost touch with reality....

No wonder people are leaving the party in droves...what HAPPENED to the Republican party in this country?? I keep thinking "it's got to turn around", but it seems to be going in the opposite direction...

It's not even so much funny, it's just so sad to watch...

ETA: I offer once more a complete dissection of the lies and idiocy: http://www.alternet.org/right-wing-media-myths-about-benghazi And that's all that needs saying.

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Friday, May 10, 2013 6:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
No wonder people are leaving the party in droves...what HAPPENED to the Republican party in this country??



It got taken over by idiots like rappy.

9 hearings, and they're still pretending that hypotheticals with NO PROOF are a scandal.

Pathetic idiots, all of them.




Excuse me while I soak in all these sweet, sweet conservative tears.

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Friday, May 10, 2013 6:41 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


No, it got taken over by people who don't give a flying fuck about the country but only about power and money, and who have enough of both to MANIPULATE idiots like Rap...

People like him can be led; but they're being led by Limbaugh, Beck, Luntz, Koch, and are too dumb to realize it...


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Friday, May 10, 2013 12:09 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/10/politics/benghazi-emails/index.html?hpt=
hp_t1


Obama administration e-mails raise new questions on Benghazi
By Jim Acosta. Jessica Yellin and Elise Labott,


Quote:


source familiar with the exchange said then-State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland raised concerns over the CIA's first version of the talking points, saying that they went further than what she was allowed to say about the attack during her briefings and that she believed the CIA was attempting to exonerate itself at the State Department's expense by suggesting CIA warnings about the security situation were ignored.



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Friday, May 10, 2013 12:22 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Obama's house of cards is starting to collapse. About fucking time. Carney is holding 'off the record' briefings now, with select members of the media...

Gee, the most transparent administration ever?

NOT!

It's clear they want to cherry pick those in the media who are most favorable to the administration, so they can set up a preemptive spin cycle by which to " inform " the public as to what / how to think about this story.

" It happened a long time ago "

Yeah. And we'd have learned about all this nonsense a lot earlier, had we not put off the hearings Benghazi until after the election, until after the new year!!

That was done entirely on purpose, by the Democrats, to provide cover for this administration.

And a compliant media held its breath closed its eyes, and allowed it to happen.

But not EVERYONE in the media, thankfully.


'stylistic'... that'll be the word for the week, if not the entire year!


Oh, and Niki - Once again, you're flat out wrong!!!!


ROTFLMAO!!!



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Friday, May 10, 2013 12:25 PM

AURAPTOR

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Friday, May 10, 2013 12:48 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talkin
g-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references
/


( NOT FOX NEWS, NOT PN )



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Friday, May 10, 2013 12:52 PM

STORYMARK


Golly, they didn't call it a terror attack until the knew for sure?

So, the same thing we knew months ago?

And you wonder why no one but hard right wingnuts give a shit...




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Friday, May 10, 2013 2:55 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Golly, they didn't call it a terror attack until the knew for sure?



Umm... no. They knew, immediately, as they'd been warned about this exact thing, well in advance.

Quote:


So, the same thing we knew months ago?



Well, the same thing MOST of us knew, but that's not the fairy tale ( LIE ) that the Obama admin. had been feeding the American public, and selling to the Pakistanis, when they bizarrely cut that PSA, telling anyone who cared " DON'T HATE US!! WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT VIDEO!!!! "

It never was about the video.

Quote:



And you wonder why no one but hard right wingnuts give a shit...



Now that's just funny right there. I don't care who ya are.


In all seriousness, why keep up this charade any longer ? Obama and Hillary got busted.

Game over, pal.

Why keep trying to deny it ?




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Friday, May 10, 2013 3:29 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Just because the truth can be used against you, politically, doesn't make it purely a political issue.

Whether it's some imagined 'vast, right wing conspiracy ', that caused Bill to get a Lewinsky from his intern, or 4 dead Americans from an attack on 9/11, I'm sorry Lefties, if the facts make you look bad, guess what ?


YOU LOOK BAD!

Because YOU'RE the ones who screwed this up in the first place!!

Grow the hell up and deal w/ it!


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Friday, May 10, 2013 3:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The facts made Georgie boy look a lot worse. AND YOU LOOK BAD B/C YOU SUPPORTED HIM! Too bad about those facts.



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Friday, May 10, 2013 3:41 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The facts made Georgie boy look a lot worse. AND YOU LOOK BAD B/C YOU SUPPORTED HIM! Too bad about those facts.




Huh? WTF are you even talking about ? Obama was President here, not Bush. Seriously, your Bush Derangement Syndrome only grows w/ time.

Can't you address the issue here ? Deal w/ the FACTS ?

Guess not. So butt-hurt is your misplaced pride , that you're freaking cross-eyed with rage and embarrassment.

And the story only grows...

Quote:


After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

There's new evidence, obtained by ABC, that the Obama administration did deliberately purge references to "terrorism" from accounts of the attack on the Benghazi diplomatic mission, which killed four people including the US ambassador to Libya.

Conservatives have long maintained that the administration deliberately suppressed the truth about the attacks.

This is the first hard evidence that the state department did ask for changes to the CIA's original assessment

There's little doubt in my mind that this will haunt Hillary Clinton if she decides to run for president, unless she executes some pretty fancy footwork.

State department spokesperson Victoria Nuland is directly implicated, and the fingerprints of senior White House aides Ben Rhodes and Jay Carney are there as well.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22483768





Again, not the most right-leaning news service ever, the BBC

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Friday, May 10, 2013 4:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Can't you address the issue here ?"

The issue of your double standard and lame finger-pointing pretending to be impartial assessment? I already did.

BTW, as I recall, when we were objecting to what your buddy Georgie was doing, you were calling us traitors. Maybe you should look in the mirror and say that word aloud a few times.



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Friday, May 10, 2013 6:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I know Jon Stewart is your hero. You really wish you could be just like him. A court jester, unaccountable to the facts, just spewing out random comments, and then making funny faces, or using silly accents, and thinking he's made any valid points. He hasn't, or have you.



Looks like someone let Mike have two cups of coffee today. He's really crankin' it out.




Sorry, did I violate your terms of service?

How many posts am I allowed to put up in a day?

Is that number the same for everybody, or am I being singled out for censorship just because you don't like what I have to say?



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, May 10, 2013 6:14 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Can't you address the issue here ? Deal w/ the FACTS ?





Why would you hold her to a higher standard than you hold your own party?


They've yet to really deal with the facts or address the issue here. Lots of speculation, lots of "if" comin' offa their plan, but a damn few actual FACTS.

"If this happened..."

"If that happened..."

And as Jongsie said, if my grandma had handles, she'd be a wheelbarrow.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:27 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Can't you address the issue here ?"

The issue of your double standard and lame finger-pointing pretending to be impartial assessment? I already did.

BTW, as I recall, when we were objecting to what your buddy Georgie was doing, you were calling us traitors. Maybe you should look in the mirror and say that word aloud a few times.



There IS no double standard here. This incident was unprecedented. We had an ambassador, who called for back up, and got none. We had warnings as to the security issues in Libya, and they went unheeded. Then, for absolutely no reason ( other than political ) we had an administration lie to the American public about WHY this happened, when they and everyone knew from the start it was a terrorist attack.

Traitor only applies to those who do what Obama and Hillary did. Nice try.

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Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:53 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
This incident was unprecedented. We had an ambassador, who called for back up, and got none. We had warnings as to the security issues in Libya, and they went unheeded. Then, for absolutely no reason ( other than political ) we had an administration lie to the American public about WHY this happened, when they and everyone knew from the start it was a terrorist attack.

Traitor only applies to those who do what Obama and Hillary did.


Long before the whistleblowers, and long before the Weekly Standard and ABC News jumped into the fray, Catherine Herridge amd Jennifer Griffen of Fox News had the whole story nailed down. I don't know of anything new that has been revealed since their reporting many months ago.

So ....

Can the 2012 election be undone? No
Will Obama resign? No
Will the House start impeachment hearings against Obama? No
Will we find out who created the Muslim video riot lie? No
Will we find out why no rescue was sent during the first or second waves of attacks? No
Will this damage Hillary's political future? No


This story is going nowhere unless there's a crime involved. Lying to Congress is a crime, but who's gonna prosecute that? Holder? Shit, he's already been held in contempt of Congress, which actually could be considered a badge of honor these days.

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Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:06 AM

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Why the WH changed, 12, the talking points , and removed any mention of Islamic terrorist, is certainly starting to be questioned.

To say " there's nothing new here " , is false. The more we pull on the strings, the more this charade unravels.

Where was the President during all this ? - Still not answered

Who gave the order to stand down, twice ? - Still not answered

Those are,imo, two very large questions which need to be found out.

Also, the fact that the initial hearings were pushed back to well after the election, only gave this admin. cover to come up w/ the empty claim that Benghazi happened " a long time ago ". This delay tactic was purely by design, for 2 main reasons. To get Obama re-elected w/ out having to deal w/ this crisis, and to allow for other events to pop up ( as they always do ) so the media could bury this on the back pages, so the public would forget. Just like Fast and Furious. Out of sight, out of mind, and with a fully compliant MSM ( save for FOX, and one or two random journalist doing their job ) this story was SUPPOSE to go away.

Not so fast there, partner.


Justice delayed is justice denied. Isn't that a favorite mantra of the Left ?

Well? How about it folks... delayed enough ?



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Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:17 AM

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Nothing unravels unless there is the possibility of people going to prison. Nothing is historically meaningful without there first being a crime committed. Otherwise it's just the spin of politics and bureaucratic ineptitude.

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Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Nothing unravels unless there is the possibility of people going to prison. Nothing is historically meaningful without there first being a crime committed. Otherwise it's just the spin of politics and bureaucratic ineptitude.



Reminds me of a fav scene form the movie, Contact.






If the excuse making and dismissing we see from the Left truly are what we've made of this world, that doesn't speak very well for us, now does it ?


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Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:14 AM

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)






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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

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Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:43 AM

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The funding issue for Benghazi has already been debunked, but irrational zealots like Kwiko just can't get past it.

"Issa went on to note that Charlene Lamb, the State Department official who fielded security requests from the Libya U.S. diplomatic officials had said that money wasn’t the reason for the slim security in Libya. Consider this exchange from the congressional hearing on Libya last week:

“It has been suggested that budget cuts are responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Miss Lamb,” said Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R., Calif.). “You made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which lead you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

“No, sir,” said Lamb."


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/10/15/libya_isn039t_about_fundin
g_cuts_293141.html



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Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Nothing unravels unless there is the possibility of people going to prison. Nothing is historically meaningful without there first being a crime committed. Otherwise it's just the spin of politics and bureaucratic ineptitude.



If the excuse making and dismissing we see from the Left truly are what we've made of this world, that doesn't speak very well for us, now does it ?





I agree with you, but I don't get paid to live with it every day, and I don't have time to waste arguing with Occutard idiots. But bravo to you and your efforts. I said my two cents on this for now. We'll see what the future brings.

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Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:57 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The funding issue for Benghazi has already been debunked, but irrational zealots like Kwiko just can't get past it.

"Issa went on to note that Charlene Lamb, the State Department official who fielded security requests from the Libya U.S. diplomatic officials had said that money wasn’t the reason for the slim security in Libya. Consider this exchange from the congressional hearing on Libya last week:

“It has been suggested that budget cuts are responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi, and I’d like to ask Miss Lamb,” said Representative Dana Rohrabacher (R., Calif.). “You made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which lead you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

“No, sir,” said Lamb."


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2012/10/15/libya_isn039t_about_fundin
g_cuts_293141.html






Hey, if you can photo shop some declarative comments onto an image, and then post it on the internet, it HAS to be true.

Who says ?

The internet.


Bonjour!

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Salon: NBC's Ronna blunder: A failed attempt to appeal to MAGA voters — except they hate her too
Thu, March 28, 2024 07:04 - 1 posts
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Thu, March 28, 2024 05:27 - 6154 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Thu, March 28, 2024 02:07 - 3408 posts
Russian losses in Ukraine
Wed, March 27, 2024 23:21 - 987 posts
human actions, global climate change, global human solutions
Wed, March 27, 2024 15:03 - 824 posts
NBC News: Behind the scenes, Biden has grown angry and anxious about re-election effort
Wed, March 27, 2024 14:58 - 2 posts
BUILD BACK BETTER!
Wed, March 27, 2024 14:45 - 5 posts
RFK Jr. Destroys His Candidacy With VP Pick?
Wed, March 27, 2024 11:59 - 16 posts
Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility
Wed, March 27, 2024 10:57 - 49 posts
Ha. Haha! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!!
Tue, March 26, 2024 21:26 - 1 posts
You can't take the sky from me, a tribute to Firefly
Tue, March 26, 2024 16:26 - 293 posts

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