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Sensenbrenner: Obama Administration’s NSA Assurances ‘a Bunch of Bunk’

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Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:01 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Representative Jim Sensenbrenner, who introduced the PATRIOT Act on the House floor in 2001, has declared that lawmakers’ and the executive branch’s excuses about recent revelations of NSA activity are “a bunch of bunk.”

In an interview on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Wednesday morning, the Republican congressman from Wisconsin reiterated his concerns that the administration and the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court have gone far beyond what the PATRIOT Act intended. Specifically, he said that Section 215 of the act “was originally drafted to prevent data mining” on the scale that’s occurred.

Sensenbrenner, the current chairman on the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations, suggested that the secret nature of the FISA court has prevented appropriate congressional oversight over the NSA’s activities.

When asked whether he agreed with those in Washington calling leaker Edward Snowden a traitor, Sensenbrenner responded, “No, I don’t agree,” and said that he would not have known the extent of abuse by the FISA court and the NSA without Snowden’s disclosures.

The congressman has earlier said he believes the PATRIOT Act needs to be amended to protect Americans’ privacy.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/350854/sensenbrenner-obama-admini
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Sam Colt never envisioned the machine gun when he patented his first revolver. And Edward Teller never envisioned missiles with multiple independently targeted nuclear warheads when he invented the A-bomb. What did Sensenbrenner think would happen to his little baby?

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Thursday, June 13, 2013 5:30 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Sensenbrenner: Obama Administration’s NSA Assurances ‘a Bunch of Bunk’
Of course they are. It's their JOB to lie!

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Friday, June 14, 2013 2:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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Representative Jim Sensenbrenner, who introduced the PATRIOT Act on the House floor in 2001,...


I think I found the problem

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, June 14, 2013 4:34 PM

JONGSSTRAW


NSA snoopers sure did a great job with Tsarnaev. Islamic jihadist websites, facebook postings, phone calls to Chechnya, etc. A year of that and no one had a clue. Yeah, I'm really worried about my chit.

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Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:16 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
NSA snoopers sure did a great job with Tsarnaev. Islamic jihadist websites, facebook postings, phone calls to Chechnya, etc. A year of that and no one had a clue. Yeah, I'm really worried about my chit.



It's about connecting dots... or something.

I'm SURE we'd have gotten those Tsarnaev kids were it not for the GOP's insistence on forcing us to endure the govt sequestration.

[/sarcasm]

On the flip side... we're being told that the NSA thwarted one, well, several, no wait, it's DOZENS of attacks. Just none involving facebook postings and calls, trips over seas, to a hot bed of radical Muslim terrorism.

I'm confused, but if we're not calling it radical Muslim terrorism any more, and that we've even won the war on terror, how come they're still at it ?

And with all these thwarted attacks, does that mean that radical Muslim terrorism is even a BIGGER threat than we were told ?

Just 'man caused ' disasters, huh?

Then what's that climate change, huh? All that death and destruction by tornadoes and hurricanes are really just more man caused disasters too, right ?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 16, 2013 12:15 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

On the flip side... we're being told that the NSA thwarted one, well, several, no wait, it's DOZENS of attacks. Just none involving facebook postings and calls, trips over seas, to a hot bed of radical Muslim terrorism.

I'm confused, but if we're not calling it radical Muslim terrorism any more, and that we've even won the war on terror, how come they're still at it ?

And with all these thwarted attacks, does that mean that radical Muslim terrorism is even a BIGGER threat than we were told ?

Just 'man caused ' disasters, huh?

Then what's that climate change, huh? All that death and destruction by tornadoes and hurricanes are really just more man caused disasters too, right ?



Better be careful asking questions like that. We're living under the thumb of a petty narcissistic satrap who uses the enforcement arms of the Government (IRS & DOJ) to harass and punish his enemies. Hunker down, because Obama and Holder are doing the Triumph happy dance around Congressional Republicans as they continue to lie with smiles and obstruct justice with apparent impunity.

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Monday, June 17, 2013 12:43 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
NSA snoopers sure did a great job with Tsarnaev. Islamic jihadist websites, facebook postings, phone calls to Chechnya, etc. A year of that and no one had a clue. Yeah, I'm really worried about my chit.


Cause they were too fuckin busy spying on and harrassing Occupy folk, yeah.

Oh, and don't you DARE whine to me about Republicans being under the gun, you, and them, fucking ENABLED this shit in the first place...

So suck it, bitches - I TOLD you this was coming, and you chose to mock, dismiss and ignore, so this is your own petard you're hoisted on, too bad, so sad.

I'd not even give a fuck, save that your own malice and incompetence has cursed future generations innocent of the crime.

I hope you're proud of yourselves, you quisling traitor fucks.

-Frem

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Monday, June 17, 2013 1:04 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Cause they were too fuckin busy spying on and harrassing Occupy folk, yeah.


There's zero evidence to support that, plus it's absolutely absurd. Obama loved the Occutards and said so. But he did call Fox News and the Tea Party folks dangerous to America. Then his minions in the IRS and DOJ took his lead and targeted, harassed, and spied on them.

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Oh, and don't you DARE whine to me about Republicans being under the gun, you, and them, fucking ENABLED this shit in the first place...
So suck it, bitches - I TOLD you this was coming, and you chose to mock, dismiss and ignore, so this is your own petard you're hoisted on, too bad, so sad.


I know you are prone to fits of rage and pain, but seriously dude, I didn't enable anyone or anything.

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I'd not even give a fuck, save that your own malice and incompetence has cursed future generations innocent of the crime.

I hope you're proud of yourselves, you quisling traitor fucks.

-Frem


And I hope you're proud of yourself as well. You're no different than anyone else. No better, no worse. If I'm a traitor, then you're a traitor, but I suspect in the world outside your pain meds we're not.

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Monday, June 17, 2013 4:44 PM

FREMDFIRMA


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There's zero evidence to support that, plus it's absolutely absurd.


Sorry what were you lying again ?

Boston police spied on Occupy protesters instead of investigating Tsarnaevs

http://rt.com/usa/fusion-marathon-police-boston-116/

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I know you are prone to fits of rage and pain, but seriously dude, I didn't enable anyone or anything.


How does supporting the pricks that brought it to this not equal enabling it ?
Sure, ain't no one innocent here, but some are guiltier than others, and perhaps instead of trying to deny culpability and point the finger you DO something about it instead, hmm ?

As for the rest of it, I made *MY* choice when I told the powers that be to piss up a rope back in 89, when it came clear to me their intentions weren't to protect the people, but manipulate, victimize and exploit them.

I may not be innocent, nor very nice, but helping this shit along at the very start out of malice and apathy isn't something that ever set well with me, but y'all don't even have the bloody decency to be ashamed of yourselves, especially in light of me flat out telling you that cheerleading that kinda bullshit for partisan reasons was gonna blow back on you when the leash changed hands...

And here we are.

-F

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Monday, June 17, 2013 5:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I have to say Frem - yes you did, and you were right.

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Monday, June 17, 2013 7:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Cheney has taken prideful ownership of the program, so hey, when the Bush VP says he did it... I say, let's believe him, neh?
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Cheney also pushed aside Sen. Rand Paul's reservations about the NSA program that he made on Fox News Sunday last week. When asked why the NSA has to "vacuum up" information on ordinary citizens, Cheney laughed off the suggestion, saying that "it's just a big bag of numbers that has been collected." And, getting right into the swing of being back defending government surveillance, Cheney slipped into the first-person plural: "The allegation is not that we get all this personal information on Aunt Fanny or Chris Wallace, that's not the way it works." Cheney also took some ownership—or at least authorship—of the data-collection, saying that he "worked with [former Director of National Intelligence] Mike Hayden when we set this program up."

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Didn't the Occubabies plan to blow up a bridge ? Seems legit to want to investigate that crowd. Every bit as a threat to the people as are Islamic nut jobs.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:52 AM

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
So suck it, bitches - I TOLD you this was coming, and you chose to mock, dismiss and ignore, so this is your own petard you're hoisted on, too bad, so sad.

I'd not even give a fuck, save that your own malice and incompetence has cursed future generations innocent of the crime.

I hope you're proud of yourselves, you quisling traitor fucks.

-Frem



Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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