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Ed Markey Beats Gabriel Gomez in Massachusetts Senate Race

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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:22 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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Democratic Rep. Ed Markey Tuesday won a special U.S. Senate election in Massachusetts, topping Republican businessman and former Navy SEAL Gabriel Gomez in an election marked by low voter turnout.

The contest was the second time in three years that Massachusetts voters headed to the polls in a special U.S. Senate election with national implications.

In January 2010, little-known Republican state Sen. Scott Brown upset Martha Coakley, the Commonwealth's Democratic attorney general, in a contest to fill the remainder of the term of longtime Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy, who died the previous summer. Brown's victory set the stage for the GOP wave in the November 2010 midterm elections.

Fast forward three years, and this time there was no upset.

With 100% of precincts reporting, Markey led Gomez 55%-45%, according to local media reports.

Markey, who had led in all the pre-election public opinion polls, will serve the remaining year and a half of the term of longtime Democratic Sen. John Kerry, who stepped down earlier this year after being confirmed as U.S. secretary of state.

Brown, who lost his Senate seat last November when he was defeated by Democrat Elizabeth Warren, passed on running in this special election, setting the stage for Gomez, who had never held public office.

While the GOP looked to comparisons to the 2010 special election and Gomez aides predicted a shocker, much has changed since Brown's upset victory.

Markey will succeed William "Mo" Cowan. Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick appointed his former chief of staff to serve as interim senator after Kerry stepped down.

If he wants to stay in the Senate past next year, Markey will need to run for re-election in November 2014, when a full six-year term will be at stake. Gomez has hinted that he'll run again, and minutes after the election was called, some national Republicans already had their eyes on a rematch. More at http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/25/politics/massachusetts-senate/index.html
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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:40 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Sad to hear, but they got exactly what they deserved.

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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:11 PM

WHOZIT


So the guy that supported Obama beat the other guy who supported Obama.

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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:14 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
So the guy that supported Obama beat the other guy who supported Obama.



“The first thing I’ll say about President Obama is that I did not vote for President Obama in 2008. I didn’t vote for President Obama in 2012,” Gomez said at a campaign event at a Somerville VFW post. “I voted for the Navy guy in 2008. I voted for (Republican presidential nominee) John McCain.” - Gabriel Gomez.

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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:28 PM

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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:33 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I don't understand. He's everything the Democrats say the GOP SHOULD be, and yet he still got beat.



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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:34 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Per Opensecrets.org, Markey had never spent more than around $1.2 million on a race before and averaged around $1.5 million in contributions. For this race, he raised $7.8 million and spent $8.6 milion.
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cycle=2014&type
=I&cid=N00000270&newMem=N


Per the Christian Science Monitor, Gomez raised $1.7 million. he has no listing on Opensecrets. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/Senate/2013/0626/Edward-Markey-
wins-a-low-turnout-big-spending-Massachusetts-Senate-race


Looks like you can still buy an election.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:58 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Markey had a few decent hits when he sang with the Funky Bunch with his pants around his ankles.

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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Niki,
Some things stand out to me.

Democratic Rep. Ed Markey Tuesday won a special U.S. Senate election in Massachusetts, topping Republican businessman and former Navy SEAL Gabriel Gomez in an election marked by low voter turnout.

With 100% of precincts reporting, Markey led Gomez 55%-45%, according to local media reports.

Markey, who had led in all the pre-election public opinion polls, will serve the remaining year and a half of the term of longtime Democratic Sen. John Kerry, who stepped down earlier this year after being confirmed as U.S. secretary of state.

If he wants to stay in the Senate past next year, Markey will need to run for re-election in November 2014, when a full six-year term will be at stake. Gomez has hinted that he'll run again, and minutes after the election was called, some national Republicans already had their eyes on a rematch.


Low voter turnout is generally considered a bad sign for repeat results. It indicates that most people don't care, and only peeved people have bothered to show up. I think polls aren't terribly indicative in this circumstance, where opinions are free, until you have to bother to show up at the polls. And it looks like repubicans treated this as a dry run and not a serious race. So Markey got himself the job. Now he has to do something to pass the probationary period with the voters.

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Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:30 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


"Looks like you can still buy an election."


Someone should tell that to the Koch brothers. Oh, wait - they already tried that. Oh well - maybe Karl Rove can still try. Again.



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"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:32 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
"Looks like you can still buy an election."


Someone should tell that to the Koch brothers. Oh, wait - they already tried that. Oh well - maybe Karl Rove can still try. Again.



Don't forget Michael Bloomberg.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/27/robin-kelly-illinois-election
_n_2770721.html


Seems like big money is okay - or not - depending on who gets it.


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Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:10 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Kiki: Excellent analysis, and I quoted that last paragraph specifically because we'll have to wait and see in 2014, obviously.

Remarks about how much money was spent and that it allowed anyone to "buy" the election are nothing but pathetic sour grapes, considering the GLUT of money Republicans have spent on various elections. Everyone always tries to "buy" the election; sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. That the Democrats thought this one was worth putting money into and that Markey was able to get that much in contributions, and that the Republicans obviously DID NOT think it was worth investing in and Gomez did NOT get a lot of contributions, means nothing, except that Geezer is desperate for some kind of snark. It's a really poor one.


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Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Remarks about how much money was spent and that it allowed anyone to "buy" the election are nothing but pathetic sour grapes, considering the GLUT of money Republicans have spent on various elections.



How much $ did the GOP spend on THIS election ?

* Markey spent $5.4 million on his campaign between April 11 and June 5, while Gomez spent just $1.6 million.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/06/senate_candidate_ed
_markey_rai_1.html


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Everyone always tries to "buy" the election; sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. That the Democrats thought this one was worth putting money into and that Markey was able to get that much in contributions, and that the Republicans obviously DID NOT think it was worth investing in and Gomez did NOT get a lot of contributions, means nothing, except that Geezer is desperate for some kind of snark. It's a really poor one.



What it all comes down to is this. When it's Romney or the Koch brothers, it's evil, and a travesty in US politics. But when it's George Soros, or the array of Unions, THAT is democracy!

I'm thinking of a very bad word to say now, but won't use it.

I'll simply say - HYPOCRITE !



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:25 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


So a Democrate spends more on a race in a Democratic strong hold and wins a race no one expected the Republican canidate to have a chance of winning and the Democrate bought the race?



I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, June 27, 2013 11:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Outspent the GOP candidate by over 3x's, in a stronghold for the Democratic party.

So, what are the qualifiers which do and don't make a campaign 'bought and paid for ' ?

Democrats can't 'buy' campaigns. Only Republicans can.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Friday, June 28, 2013 5:44 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Fahgedaboudit, Nick, you're arguing with a stone. "Dog with a bone" and all that; you KNOW Rap will never give up any idea that crawled into his brain and lodged there.

Of COURSE elections are "bought" by both sides from time to time--when it works. And of course if the Republicans had sunk tons of money into this one and won he'd be crowing about it and not bothered by the money at all. It's just how his mind works; no logic will ever interfere in the process, so why try?


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Friday, June 28, 2013 7:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:

Seems like big money is okay - or not - depending on who gets it.





It certainly seems that you hold such a standard. I can't help but notice that you've not uttered a word about your own governor's money troubles, the federal investigation into them, or the pending grand jury.

I guess when it's a Republican governorship that's being bought, you're totally okay with that.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Friday, June 28, 2013 7:43 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Remarks about how much money was spent and that it allowed anyone to "buy" the election are nothing but pathetic sour grapes, considering the GLUT of money Republicans have spent on various elections.



How much $ did the GOP spend on THIS election ?

* Markey spent $5.4 million on his campaign between April 11 and June 5, while Gomez spent just $1.6 million.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/06/senate_candidate_ed
_markey_rai_1.html


Quote:



Everyone always tries to "buy" the election; sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. That the Democrats thought this one was worth putting money into and that Markey was able to get that much in contributions, and that the Republicans obviously DID NOT think it was worth investing in and Gomez did NOT get a lot of contributions, means nothing, except that Geezer is desperate for some kind of snark. It's a really poor one.



What it all comes down to is this. When it's Romney or the Koch brothers, it's evil, and a travesty in US politics. But when it's George Soros, or the array of Unions, THAT is democracy!

I'm thinking of a very bad word to say now, but won't use it.

I'll simply say - HYPOCRITE !




So do you think it's wrong for Romney or the Koch brothers to spend money on an election in an attempt to win it?

And do you think it's wrong for a Democrat to play by the same rules?

"Hypocrite" sounds like exactly the word that applies to you. You're whining now about Markey doing something you were in favor of when Romney and the Kochs were doing it.

Are you saying now that corporations *aren't* people and *shouldn't* have free speech rights? Or should those only apply when they support Republicans?



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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