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Store also probably lost business from people who hear this story. Oprah will have made a serious impact on the business for their practices without making a scene in public that the tabloids would spin in the worst possible way. Sounds classy to me.

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Racism and xenophobia are problems in Switzerland. Auraptor, I see you're doing the same thing here that you do with the subject of sexism in the Western world. Try to silence it. By comparing it to something worse in an entirely different place, geographically or historically. Why do you always do that?

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Racism and xenophobia are problems in Switzerland. Auraptor, I see you're doing the same thing here that you do with the subject of sexism in the Western world. Try to silence it. By comparing it to something worse in an entirely different place, geographically or historically. Why do you always do that?

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First of all, I do no such thing as you describe w/ regards to sexism. No idea where you're getting that from.

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Second of all, MANY on there make exaggerated examples to make their point, and yet some how you only see it when I allegedly do that ?

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I bring up Emmett Till because Oprah has indeed claimed that Trayvon Martin is virtually the same thing. It's no where near the same, and to even TRY to compare the 2 incidents is to make a mockery of the memory of Emmett Till, as well as to display colossal ignorance on her part, of both cases.

Why do I always do that ? Because someone has to.

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No, Oprah wasn't denied service, nor was she shown the door ( ala lunch counter incidents which occurred in the South, circa the 1950's ) , she was just told ( allegedly ) by the clerk that the bag she was interested in was too expensive for her to even look at, up close.

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Racism and xenophobia are problems in Switzerland. Auraptor, I see you're doing the same thing here that you do with the subject of sexism in the Western world. Try to silence it. By comparing it to something worse in an entirely different place, geographically or historically. Why do you always do that?

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First of all, I do no such thing as you describe w/ regards to sexism. No idea where you're getting that from.

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I get that from, for example, your derailment into FGM in the "colluding with violence toward women" thread which was about sexism in Western culture. You always bring up oppression of women in muslim cultures when issues in Western culture are discussed.

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No, Oprah wasn't denied service, nor was she shown the door ( ala lunch counter incidents which occurred in the South, circa the 1950's ) , she was just told ( allegedly ) by the clerk that the bag she was interested in was too expensive for her to even look at, up close.

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Clearly, you're trying to silence her accusation of racism by contrasting it to worse racism from another time and place. Because nothing can be bad unless it's a full-on catastrophe. Nothing should be addressed if anything else, elsewhere or long ago, was ever worse. At least that is how it reads to me. I can't imagine why else you would make that comparison.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Ah.

AuRaptor: Mad about comments about Trayvon Martin, lolz about unable to buy ridiculously expensive handbag that no one would ever need to spend that much money on.

Fair enough.

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I speculate that the urge to buy such an expensive bag must be related to the status symbol aspect of being able to plunk that much money down - perhaps because of treatment like this. Vicious cycle?

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First of all, I do no such thing as you describe w/ regards to sexism. No idea where you're getting that from.

Second of all, MANY on there make exaggerated examples to make their point, and yet some how you only see it when I allegedly do that ?

Why do I always do that ? Because someone has to.

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And that's what kinda irks me. IF this incident took place as she claimed, she should have just nipped it in the bud, and told the lady, indeed, who she was! She didn't need to make a scene, but just inform the lady, in an oh-by-the-way manner, that she could have bought that store, several times over, and that clerk just talked herself out of a huge sale.

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Usually, it's b-list celebs who break out that line, when they feel they've been jilted , or deserve better treatment from plebeians who make up the rest of the world.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Being a tremendous geek for art history, I can't find much fault with that on principal, except for where it relates to underlying woeful wealth inequality that makes some people obscenely rich while others suffer."

Art doesn't need rich patrons to exist - all it requires is an artist, time, materials and tools. Unless the tools and materials are extremely expensive - like a nanotechnology that can paint the Mona Lisa in an area less than the diameter of a human hair ( http://www.upi.com/Science_News/Technology/2013/08/06/Nanotechnology-c
reates-worlds-smallest-version-of-the-Mona-Lisa/UPI-21361375826126/) or ruby glass made of glass infused with gold ( http://www.bobbrooke.com/rubyglass.htm) what the artist needs is a way to stay alive in order to have time ... time to create. Keeping someone alive so they can create is not that expensive.

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