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White nationalists aim to take over tiny North Dakota town

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UPDATED: Sunday, September 29, 2013 14:06
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Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:27 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


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Leith, North Dakota (CNN) -- A tiny, tranquil town in North Dakota is in danger of losing its serenity and being consumed by controversy if one man has his way.

Paul Craig Cobb wants to transform Leith, population 24, into a community that mirrors his white supremacist views.

This weekend, white supremacists and others are expected to descend on the town in a show of support.

Cobb said he envisions Leith as a place where white nationalist banners will be flown, where white culture would be celebrated, and where minorities would not be welcome.

His white power takeover would begin with getting political control over Leith, but his ambitions go way beyond one small town.

Cobb said he wants this movement to spread to other cities, other nations, even around the world, but he does not explain how he would do this.

"I don't understand why all the different other people don't say 'whitey' is pretty darn nice and clever," Cobb said. "There are many organizations which whites have to support other cultures... where is the organization of people from around the world that says let's keep these white people... they're pretty darn good, all in all."

Cobb is one of the best known white supremacists in North America, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center's intelligent report.

"He believes whites should be separate from other races," said Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Center. "He's also an anti-semite, a raging anti-semite... And he's a member of the creativity religion, which is a religion that literally worships the Aryan man instead of God."

Cobb's quest to change Leith began about two years ago with the purchase of property.

Leith, a quiet town where you can hear the crickets chirp and the grain elevator run, is 70 miles southwest of Bismarck.

It is part of Grant County, North Dakota's third largest county by land mass at more than 1 million acres, according to its website.

The communities there once buzzed with activity from nearby railroads, but all that is gone.

Cobb, 61, said he picked Leith because it was beautiful and cheap.

He has bought 12 plots of land for as little as $500 each.

He wants like-minded people affiliated with white nationalist organizations to take up residence on his properties.

"We hate that which threatens what we love," he said. "And we're being genocided in our own country. Wouldn't you? Wouldn't you be bitter about it?"




http://www.edition.cnn.com/2013/09/21/us/white-supremacist-town/index.
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Not sure whether it would be better to get lots of non-white folks to move to Leith, or just let the nuts buy it and have all your rotten eggs in one basket.

Suggestions welcome.

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Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:50 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


I MapQuested the place. It's about 3 blocks square, in the middle of NoPlace. Let'em have it. Maybe a blue Norther will come thru and freeze 'em all.

One interesting fact- just South East of it is a gigantic (map-wise) Indian reservation. I wonder how they plan to deal with that, being anti-minority and pro-white.

Seems I remember here in California, back in the 70's, a bunch of gays, I think, were all gonna move to Alpine County, over in the Sierras, and take it over, Wonder how that played out?

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Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:04 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


NewOld, you're talking about Stonewall Nation no doubt? It was a joke, put together by some L.A. activists.
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The four of us met over at 1501 North Hoover, next door to KCET-TV and I said, ‘Let’s do it. Let’s take over Alpine County, but don’t. Let’s agree among ourselves that we’ll fake it. That we’re going to be serious, we’ll stare into the camera and we’ll say that we’re taking over Alpine County, we’re creating dah dee dah dah dah.’ And so we held a press conference.”

Jon Platania: “People were just homophobic enough to believe and fear it. We made flyers saying, “Come to Alpine County, the new Gay Mecca.”

Years later, Kight still laughed when recalling his press conference to say, “That the Gay Liberation Front of Los Angeles has met and has voted among ourselves (unanimously, we might add), to take over Alpine County. Very quickly we have recruited pioneers all ready to move and very quickly we expect to move there and establish homes, a university, the first American Lesbian and Gay university where we will teach gay studies. We expect to have farms and ranches and craft shops and we expect to be a citadel of intellectual and activist activity of the part of the lesbian gay community. The following morning there was NBC, with one of their famous reporters standing on a piece of land in Alpine County saying, ‘I’m standing on the land which has been bought by the Gay Liberation Front. It is here where they are going to build their homes.’ And I thought, ‘Good grief, if he can tell that big a lie, I feel less of a liar than him.’ So then, we just held a daily press conference.” http://morriskight.blogspot.com/2011/09/brother-don-had-dream.html]


Sure as hell got the right-wing community going for a while, tho'. Even the MSM bought into it (Brinkley no less!) http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=448733

It's a funny story, very illuminating about people, the media and the government. I especially liked
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In addition to exercising his media savvy, Kight’s natural radar for infiltrators went off.

Kight to Dallmeyer: “In the meantime, we had been infiltrated by an FBI agent, who thought we might really be about to take over the government and he wanted to go along. I said, ‘You’re welcome to, we welcome everybody. I tell you what you do, there is a pay phone on the main drag in Markleeville [main town in Alpine]. You go there and commandeer the phone, and we’ll use that as our method of communicating with our troops.’’

Kight: “So here was this FBI agent with the phone, ‘Hi, NBC, just a moment here is Mister Morris Kight,’ and for three days he was there staffing the phone. And we were using his good offices, FBI has more and better equipment than we have, they have more trucks and everything than we have. Then Steve, June, and Rob had their picnic lunch on the steps of the Alpine County courthouse, munching away.”



It actually caused a bit harm within the movement because some gays took it seriously, quit their jobs and planned to move, and it alienated some gay groups when they found out it was a hoax. But "It achieved what Kight set out to achieve—worldwide coverage of gay liberation. In mid-1971, Kight wrote: “A vast number of stations have all but ignored our existence, except the recent ‘Alpine County’ news story which was covered well.” Gay liberation could no longer be ignored by the establishment and it was slowly becoming a topic of conversation in American homes."

It did what they set out to do in the end:
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And, at this, the plan was a success by any standard. In fact, by 1975, it seemed that the underlying aim of the plan had reached even arch-homophobe and opponent of the migration Herbert Bruns, who said, “I don’t think [gays a]re as dangerous as we thought at the time.” He added that there were probably even gay people living in his heterosexual sanctuary, Alpine County.

And this is the legacy of our gay liberation ancestors. While it might be easy to dismiss something like this as silly and pointless, the GLF’s wild tactics did make a difference. By forcing the gay issue out of the proverbial closet, they helped lay the groundwork in a very significant way for the gay rights movement we know today. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1021933/-Top-Comments-The-Gay
s-Are-Taking-Over-Edition#



As to Alpine County itself, Paula, my oldest friend in the world (that retired ranger I mention frequently), has lived in Markleeville since the '80s. At the time of Stonewall Nation, there were just over 400 residents in the county--it's on the Eastern Sierras, and now has a little over a thousand residents. They're big into community, grow and share food, house-sit, baby-sit, dog-sit each other and are very tolerant. And yeah, there are gays in Alpine and in Markleeville, I know some of them. Just like gays everywhere, they're people, part of their community, period. Since 2000, it has gone strongly Democratic, 60% for Obama in 2012.


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Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:34 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Yep, that's the event I remembered. I didn't know it was a hoax, but I kinda remembered or thought that it didn't happen. I looked up Alpine County on Wikipedia, and it was one of the few places in California that decisively rejected Prop 8, the anti-gay marriage prop. So I thought that maybe the takeover had worked, very quietly. Glad to know that he few folks who live there, for whatever reason, are good people.

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Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:06 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Well, looks like it's not going so well for old Cobb...

"Racist’s Hope For Whites-Only Town Goes To Shit When Septic System Fails"
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An order giving white supremacist Craig Cobb five days to come up with a plan for installing running water and a sewer outlet into his home in Leith expired Monday and it’s possible the house could be declared uninhabitable.

The order was written by the Custer District Health Unit’s environmental health practitioner Aaron Johnson, who said Cobb owns two other structures in town that possibly will be removed next month.

Johnson said Cobb was given time to show the health unit that he will have potable water in his home and a way to remove it to a sewer outlet and since he hasn’t, the home could be declared uninhabitable.

Cobb, a hate crimes fugitive, has said he buys bottled water from Wal-Mart for washing and Johnson said he believes he may be using an old outhouse on his property.

Because of other complaints, Custer District started looking at vacant and nuisance properties in Leith before Cobb announced his plans to take over the community with other white supremacists and run the town's government.

Besides Cobb's home, Johnson said an abandoned creamery adjacent to Cobb's property, owned by Cobb, and a small house that Cobb is apparently selling to a Wisconsin man are in the process of being condemned.

Johnson said nine other Leith properties — some structures and some piles of junked cars and wood — are under similar abatement orders and the city plans to move toward removing all of them in mid-October. http://ripley8.newsvine.com/_news/2013/09/27/20718930-racists-hope-for
-whites-only-town-goes-to-when-septic-system-fails
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It appears that he has been using bottled water for bathing and basic sanitation, utilizing an outhouse on his property for waste. Classy guy.

Then there was this about his recent "rally" he held, headlined by the leader of the National Socialist Movement:
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More than 300 protesters marched up this small towns gravel road Sunday, chanting and carrying signs to rally against a visit by a leader of a white nationalist group and efforts to turn the town of 16 into an all-white enclave.

As they walked, more than 20 white nationalist-related flags became visible in front of the home of Craig Cobb — a known racist wanted in Canada for promoting hate propaganda – who has been buying up properties in Leith, selling them to his fellow racists for “next to nothing,” and donating them to the National Socialist Movement and other hate groups. Now, the townspeople are fighting back with help from local Native American groups, a Web-savvy local, and supporters from in and around Grant County. http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/273926/group/homepage
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Because the area is so economically depressed, Cobb has been able to snap up 13 properties for a song so far (including a vacant lot for only $500). He has also been actively promoting Leith, ND, about 75 miles southwest of Bismarck, to his fellow racists on white supremacist sites as an ideal place to live.

Cobb proclaims himself “grateful” for the support of Jeff Schoep, the “commander” (aka "Grand Wizard") of the National Socialist Movement (NSM) who announced via video that: “Our trip to Leith is a gesture of goodwill as we plant the seeds of National Socialism in North Dakota.”

The video then reportedly segues to “orchestral music” and the tramp of marching boots, followed by NSM’s motto “Putting Family, Race and Nation First while Fighting to Secure American Jobs, Manufacturing & Innovation,” and the obligatory whining about white people being persecuted.





(Video at You Tube.com "/watch?v=_qpWN6QoFzc", I'm not gonna put it up here.

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Standing in front of his house, Cobb called the protest, “pure comedy,” although it was a larger group than he expected.

He said the group “is not human.”

“They are a force of nature that has made a plan to impede on my freedom,” he said. Cobb wants to take control of the town’s government.

Asked if Cobb’s plan will work, Schoep said he hopes it does.

“You have to start somewhere, this is sort of a test ground,” he said. “If we are able to get off the ground here, then we can get off the ground in other places.”

Chase Iron Eyes, a member of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, assured the crowd they will continue to watch Leith to make sure Cobb’s plans are not carried out.

“We are evolved human beings and I think you know you represent a dying cause,” he yelled. “You’re 30 miles from our (reservation) border, if you think you can come into our territory and threaten our children, you have another think coming.“

Members of the Leith community have started a legal defense fund and Schock said the city is searching for an attorney in case a legal issue does surface. Excerpts from http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/273926/group/homepage
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The writer had a good sense of humor, I love this: "Schoep, who drove from Detroit with other supporters, called the protesters, “outside agitators,” as many of them did not have a connection to the town." Hee, hee, hee; obviously unclear on the concept of pot calling kettle black...

Well, if the guy can't even maintain a septic tank or his properties and the city forecloses on them, maybe it'll all blow over. Who knows? Nothin' wrong with people wanting to live wherever they want, but to come in with a deliberate agenda (and these guys ain't joshin', like the gays were back when) is a whole other thing. There's one African American in town, with a white wife, who's understandably uncomfortable about the situation!


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