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Paul Ryan sets his sights on fighting poverty and winning minds

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:18 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


An interesting, sympathetic article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/paul-ryan-gops-budget-a
rchitect-sets-his-sights-on-fighting-poverty-and-winning-minds/2013/11/18/5c024888-4da8-11e3-9890-a1e0997fb0c0_story.html


I wonder if the bit about him being horrified by the 47% comments is true. This kind of article won't endear him more to the right, but will endear him to the centre.

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:29 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


He will be exposed for the opportunist that he is. This does not bode well for his credibility, but he wants to distance himself from the failed Romney campaign so he's changing his tune. The centrists are too smart and will see through his smokescreen.

It's so obvious what he's doing.


SGG


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Originally posted by kpo:
An interesting, sympathetic article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/paul-ryan-gops-budget-a
rchitect-sets-his-sights-on-fighting-poverty-and-winning-minds/2013/11/18/5c024888-4da8-11e3-9890-a1e0997fb0c0_story.html


I wonder if the bit about him being horrified by the 47% comments is true. This kind of article won't endear him more to the right, but will endear him to the centre.


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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:34 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Paul Ryan's been popular with the centre before, he was Time's runner up Person of the Year 2011.

People didn't initially see how much of a sham his budget was.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:50 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Actions speak louder than words. Remember his budget of a couple of years ago-- that showed where his heart lay then, crystal clear. Unless he's had a revelation similar to Saul on the road to Damascus, I'm not gonna buy that he's changed much. Anything else is smoke-and-mirrors opportunism.

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:51 PM

STORYMARK


Its image rehabilitation, not a changing of colors.




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:47 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


"Its image rehabilitation, not a changing of colors." Bing-O. But I'm with KPO, I wouldn't count on any Republicans being savvy enough to see through it. People see/hear what they want to, and he was the Golden Child for quite a while...I don't think recent events have tarnished that image irretrievably. He's got some ground to make up after all the plagiarism stuff, I assume that's what he's working on. Time will tell.

Where did it say he was "horrified" by the 47% thing? All I found was
Quote:

He rose to prominence as the author of an austere budget blueprint that calls for privatizing Medicare and sharply slowing federal spending on the poor.

Then he joined the GOP ticket with Mitt Romney, who was cast by Democrats as an out-of-touch plutocrat. Romney’s characterization of lower-income Americans — the “47 percent” — as “victims,” “dependent upon government” and unwilling to “take personal responsibility and care for their lives” was particularly devastating.



Devastating to Ryan's IMAGE (as it was to Romney's) certainly, but it doesn't say anything about how Ryan himself felt about it. I certainly don't recall him disagreeing with it at the time, or any time since then...?


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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:35 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


The bit about the 47%:

Quote:

However, four advisers who worked with him on the campaign said he was mortified by Romney’s 47-percent remarks. Two of those advisers said Ryan spoke directly to Romney about it in mid-September 2012, soon after Mother Jones posted a video of the $50,000-a-plate Florida fundraiser where Romney seemed to write off nearly half the population as unreachable by Republicans.

“I think he was embarrassed,” Woodson, the civil rights activist, said of Ryan. “And it propelled him to deepen his own understanding of this.”



It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:44 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ahhh, thank you. I did a "search" on each page for "47", but the quote I posted is the only one that showed up. Huh. I'm not surprised he was embarrassed.

ETA: Weird, there it is, right on page 3. And again further down...

And I liked what came after what you quoted, it was stuff I didn't know:
Quote:

Unlike Romney, Ryan is no child of privilege. His dad died when he was 16, and he paid for college with a mix of Social Security survivors checks and maxed-out student loans, according to his brother, Tobin Ryan. During a semester in Washington, he went to work on Capitol Hill and found his way to Empower America, working directly for Kemp.

In the mid-1990s, crime and poverty were hot national issues. Kemp was a font of innovative ideas for reviving inner-city commerce, rebuilding public housing and overhauling the welfare system. He was pro-immigration, pro-equal opportunity and, above all, pro-tax cuts, which he viewed as government’s primary tool for promoting growth.

Unlike other Republicans, Kemp also frequently visited black and Hispanic voters and asked them directly for their votes.

Two days after Ryan was introduced as Romney’s running mate, he pushed to do the same. Advisers recall Ryan in workout clothes in a Des Moines Marriott, telling campaign officials in Boston that he had two requests: First, to meet the staff in person. And second, to travel to urban areas and speak about poverty.

No one said no. But with Romney focused relentlessly on Obama’s failure to improve the economy for middle-class Americans, the idea always seemed off-message. “We struggled to find the right timing to dovetail it into our messaging schedule,” Romney strategist Ed Gillespie said via e-mail.

Ryan adviser Dan Senor said Ryan argued that “47 million people on food stamps is an economic failure.” But Ryan did not get clearance to deliver a speech on poverty, his sole policy address, until two weeks before the election.

Ryan had “frustration during the campaign for obvious reasons. His message, which was more than jobs and business, was secondary, subsidiary. So you didn’t get the full Ryan,” said Bennett, who vacationed with Ryan and his family in Colorado this summer. When the campaign was over, Ryan found himself “wanting to say more about who he was and introducing that broader agenda.”

Ryan had sought Woodson’s help with his poverty speech. The two reconnected after the election and began traveling together in February — once a month, no reporters — to inner-city programs supported by Woodson’s Center for Neighborhood Enterprise. In Milwaukee, Indianapolis and Denver, Woodson said, Ryan asked questions about “the agents of transformation and how this differs from the professional approach” of government social workers.




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Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:49 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Contrast that to the righties on this board who said that Romney was dead right.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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