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AGW - A religious cult.

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Friday, February 28, 2014 6:15 PM

AURAPTOR

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" You can't hardly get a science grant these days without saying it has something to do with climate change. It is a kind of nasty combination of extreme political ideology and a religious cult all rolled into one."

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A co-founder of Greenpeace told lawmakers there is no evidence man is contributing to climate change, and said he left the group when it became more interested in politics than the environment.

Patrick Moore, a Canadian ecologist and business consultant who was a member of Greenpeace from 1971-86, told members of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee environmental groups like the one he helped establish use faulty computer models and scare tactics in promoting claims man-made gases are heating up the planet.

“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” he said.


“After 15 years in the top committee I had to leave as Greenpeace took a sharp turn to the political left, and began to adopt policies that I could not accept from my scientific perspective,” he said. “Climate change was not an issue when I abandoned Greenpeace, but it certainly is now.”


http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/26/greenpeace-co-founder-no-sci
entific-proof-humans-are-dominant-cause-warming
/





I can't over look the fact that this guy isn't some right wing TEA party type, but an actual founding member of Greenpeace, saying pretty much exactly what I've been saying, for how many years now ?


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Friday, February 28, 2014 8:52 PM

JONGSSTRAW


1970's ... "Global Cooling" they say! Time Magazine cover story about an imminent Ice Age.

1990's ... "Global Warming" they say! But avg. temps. show slight cooling over 17 year period.

2000's ... "Climate Change" they say! And human beings are causing it! No unbiased scientific evidence, but plenty of alarmists with agendas taking the money.

2020's ... "Shitty Air Foo Yung" they say! The horrendous pollution from China covers the entire Earth with a death cloud.

2040's ... "Earth That Was" they say! We find a new solar system with hundreds of planets and moons ready for terraforming. Humanity is saved!

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Saturday, March 1, 2014 6:16 PM

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They keep finding more and more signs of liquid water on Mars.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 1:02 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Yep, two idiots on a scifi fan site, vs 99% of the scientific community.

You've convinced me, fellas.

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 1:07 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Yep, two idiots on a scifi fan site, vs 99% of the scientific community.

You've convinced me, fellas.



2 idiots quoting Faux news...

Q. E. D.



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Sunday, March 2, 2014 8:42 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Yep, two idiots on a scifi fan site, vs 99% of the scientific community.

You've convinced me, fellas.



2 idiots quoting Faux news...

Q. E. D.




“After 15 years in the top committee I had to leave as Greenpeace took a sharp turn to the political left, and began to adopt policies that I could not accept from my scientific perspective,” he said. “Climate change was not an issue when I abandoned Greenpeace, but it certainly is now.”

Actually, the quote came from former Greenpeace co-founder, Patrick Moore. That FOX reported it does not, in any way what so ever, dismiss the significance or the source of the quote.

Childish ad hominems directed to those who say things which are true, yet not what you want to hear, speaks volumes.

Consensus is not science.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 8:46 AM

REAVERFAN




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(environmentalist)

LOL!

Sorry. The link is not acting right, but it'll get you almost there.

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 9:00 AM

AURAPTOR

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" LOL ! " ??



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Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:13 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Moore isn't a climate scientist. But even a broken clock is right twice, so rather than an appeal to authority, his claims should be evaluated on their merit. What is his evidence? What is his logic?

Oh, there is none. And little rappy is left holding the troll bag ... once again.


definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."



RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".




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Sunday, March 2, 2014 12:09 PM

JONGSSTRAW


The climate change alarmists just haven't been the same since their great portly prophet Al Gore sold out to big oil. LOL!



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Sunday, March 2, 2014 12:21 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Apparently, providing relevant facts in a discussion is a barrier too high for 'me too' jongsie to overcome.


definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."



RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".




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Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:28 PM

AURAPTOR

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1kiki is too scared to read what Moore has to say on the matter

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Consensus is not science.
No, but neither is knee-jerk opposition, or winnowing through mountains of data in order to isolate one teeny-tiny factoid.

Yanno, SOMETIMES you can learn important things from tiny facts that don't fit, if you look at them with rigor. But all of the facts that you've brought to the table are easily explained, and since I looked them up and resolved them to my satisfaction, I noticed that you've stopped bringing any more to the table, just random references to people who have nothing scientific to say. You don't know science, you don't use science, and any opinion that you have of science is pointless. And since you don't know science, or rigorous logic, any opinion you have about ANYTHING is just that- a pointless opinion. Just like this thread. SO....

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Consensus is not science.
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Moore isn't a climate scientist. But even a broken clock is right twice, so rather than an appeal to authority, his claims should be evaluated on their merit. What is his evidence? What is his logic?

Oh, there is none. And little rappy is left holding the troll bag ... once again.


definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."



RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".





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Sunday, March 2, 2014 10:13 PM

AURAPTOR

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I love how the Left play this game. They flatly state that Moore isn't a climate scientist, when that claim was never made. He's probably not a master chef either. So frelling what!

The man help found GreenPeace, and knows a thing or two as to how the organization ran, its motivations, its goals, and tactics. He saw, from the INSIDE of the organization, how it stopped being about the science and preservation ,and more radicalized, more political.

This stubborn, childish " Yeah, so what! " mindset never is cute when displayed by adults.

You try to attack him, then the messenger, him again, and anyone who doesn't bow to the almighty AlGore Ox-god.

I'm really getting tired of it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 10:20 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Just because an organisation becomes more radical or political does not disqualify climate change. Some environmental organisations ARE more radical than others. You can disagree with someone's tactics for bringing about change without disputing the reason that change is needed.

Your capacity to argue is inadequate.

Edit. Reading on Patrick Moore, I see that he still believes in climate change, just not that its solely caused by man. he also believes in nuclear power in order to reduce dependancy upon fossil fuels. So in actual fact, he's done a 180 on his views rather than Greenpeace being radicalised.

I note that a variety of unclear statements from members of the self right-eous community here.

So can you be clear.

Do you accept climate change, but that it is not man made
Do you dispute climate change occuring at all.

So if you accept climate change, but that its not man made, can you stop with the 'its snowing somewhere, climate change is a myth' line/

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:13 PM

AURAPTOR

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Your capacity to argue is inadequate.




That's funny. Mainly because I wasn't arguing. There's nothing TO argue here. A co-founder of Greenpeace left the group, for the reasons he stated.

Quote:



Edit. Reading on Patrick Moore, I see that he still believes in climate change, just not that its solely caused by man. he also believes in nuclear power in order to reduce dependancy upon fossil fuels. So in actual fact, he's done a 180 on his views rather than Greenpeace being radicalised.

I note that a variety of unclear statements from members of the self right-eous community here.

So can you be clear.

Do you accept climate change, but that it is not man made
Do you dispute climate change occuring at all.

So if you accept climate change, but that its not man made, can you stop with the 'its snowing somewhere, climate change is a myth' line/



Climate is always changing. Not sure what you mean about ' it's snowing somewhere' line, though. I do believe the media are hyping up every little cold front and heat wave and blaming it on AGW. It's quite silly, actually.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:40 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


The question is pretty simple.

1. Do you believe in the kind of climate change that will dramatically change our weather patterns and impact on us in a variety of ways?

ie not normal seasonal change if no/ then go to the back of the class and stand in the corner for half an hour.

If yes/ go to question 2

2. Do you believe that man has impacted upon the climate changing/

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Sunday, March 2, 2014 11:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


What did Moore say about climate change, exactly?

Greenpeace co-founder: No scientific proof humans are dominant cause of warming climate

A co-founder of Greenpeace told lawmakers there is no evidence man is contributing to climate change, and said he left the group when it became more interested in politics than the environment.

Patrick Moore, a Canadian ecologist and business consultant who was a member of Greenpeace from 1971-86,
told members of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee environmental groups like the one he helped establish use faulty computer models and scare tactics in promoting claims man-made gases are heating up the planet.

“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” he said.

Even if the planet is warming up, Moore claimed it would not be calamitous for men, which he described as a “subtropical species.”

Skeptics of manmade climate change say there is no evidence the Earth is warming. A UN report on the scientific data behind global warming released in September indicated that global surface temperatures have not increased for the past 15 years, but scientists who believe climate change due to man is occurring say it has merely paused because of several factors and will soon resume.

The 2,200-page new Technical Report attributes that to a combination of several factors, including natural variability, reduced heating from the sun and the ocean acting like a “heat sink” to suck up extra warmth in the atmosphere.

Moore said he left Greenpeace in the 1980s because he believed it became more interested in politics than science.

“After 15 years in the top committee I had to leave as Greenpeace took a sharp turn to the political left, and began to adopt policies that I could not accept from my scientific perspective,” he said.
“Climate change was not an issue when I abandoned Greenpeace, but it certainly is now.”

Did he claim it was a religious cult? Did he offer ANY scientific refutation of the facts that have been observed? Did he propose any logic to reinterpret existing information?

So, what does this do to your claim that we're ignoring FACTS! when there are none? And what does this do to your claim AGW is a religion, which has nothing to do with what he said?

In fact what you're doing is an appeal to authority (we're supposed to believe him because of who he is, not on the strength of what he says). And furthermore, we're supposed to believe you because we believe him (tho the two arguments are completely separate from each other).

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Monday, March 3, 2014 5:55 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

"Did he claim it was a religious cult? "


Yep. He did.

" You can't hardly get a science grant these days without saying it has something to do with climate change. It is a kind of nasty combination of extreme political ideology and a religious cult all rolled into one." - Patrick Moore


Quote:

" And what does this do to your claim AGW is a religion, which has nothing to do with what he said? "


Now I don't care who ya are, that's just funny !




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Monday, March 3, 2014 9:15 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Gotta ask: Kiki, Magons, why do you bother? You KNOW Rap puts up anything he can find "debunking" climate change 'cuz he know it gets your goat. You KNOW nothing you ever write, no facts, no reality, will ever get through. You KNOW any response at all is what he lives for. So again I ask: Why do you bother?

Just as an aside; we used to work with Greenpeace back in the '70s, and we left it, too, after the big broo-ha-ha between Greenpeace Canada and Greenpeace USA, and somewhat because of politics as well. So what? That means nothing...but then neither does any of the other bullshit put up by trolls for no reason but to troll.


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Monday, March 3, 2014 10:00 AM

AURAPTOR

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Gotta ask: Kiki, Magons, why do you bother? You KNOW Rap puts up anything he can find "debunking" climate change 'cuz he know it gets your goat.



Wrong. I put it up there to show you drones that not everyone is blindly following the mantra that's being forced onto us. It isn't just me, or "greedy" capitalists, or right wingers... the voices of dissension are many and they are varied.

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You KNOW nothing you ever write, no facts, no reality, will ever get through. You KNOW any response at all is what he lives for. So again I ask: Why do you bother?




So, steady to dropping global temps for almost 2 decades, Michael Mann fudging data, as shown in the E. Anglia e-mails, and nonsensical and absurd predictions by AlGore and the like don't count as " facts " in your world, do they ?

Funny definitions of words you work with, eh ?

Quote:



Just as an aside; we used to work with Greenpeace back in the '70s, and we left it, too, after the big broo-ha-ha between Greenpeace Canada and Greenpeace USA, and somewhat because of politics as well. So what? That means nothing...but then neither does any of the other bullshit put up by trolls for no reason but to troll.




Nice attempt at spin, hon. YOUR reasons for leaving aren't relevant here. You weren't a co-founder, and the implications of the charade over the phony AGW issue are far more serious than any petty squabbles which may have developed between the Canadian and US groups.

Me stating facts is not " bullshit ", nor is it in any way trolling.

Churchill was dead on, when he said...

" Like the Communists, the Nazis tolerate no opinion but their own. Like the Communists, they feed on hatred. Like the Communists, they must seek, from time to time, and always at shorter intervals, a new target, a new prize, a new victim. The Dictator, in all his pride, is held in the grip of his Party machine. He can go forward; he cannot go back"

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, March 3, 2014 11:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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So, steady to dropping global temps for almost 2 decades,
Bull
Quote:

Michael Mann fudging data, as shown in the E. Anglia e-mails
Irrelevant
Quote:

and nonsensical and absurd predictions by AlGore and the like don't count as " facts " in your world, do they ?
Nope.

Next?




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Monday, March 3, 2014 2:00 PM

AURAPTOR

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Childish denial ? I can't compete against that. Lol!

You win, Agnes !

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Monday, March 3, 2014 2:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Dianetics is one of the best books I've ever read.

I got it for about 20 bucks by ordering it online... shipping included.

That was 15 years ago. They have sent no less than 3 expensive full colored mailers with damn near cardboard stock paper to me every single year since then. The "No Mail" list didn't pertain to them so even though I haven't lived at my grams' since 2004 she still gets a few mailers from the Church of Scientology mailed to me every year.

It really is an awesome book. I don't know anyting about aliens or the "next step", but simply on face value and the ideas it presents I would never tell people NOT to read it.

Well....

If you're ALL ABOUT joining a cult, I'd say that you should pass this one up and find one that's more fun with less rules.

I dunno.... Maybe I would see things differently if I'd spent millions over the years and my initials were JT or I flew a fighter jet to the tune of Kenny Loggins when I was in my 20s.



All of "what you already know aside", I have to say honestly that the man TRULY knew his stuff. They say that there is truth to every lie. There's an insane amount of predictable behavior that nearly every human being exhibits daily that they would deny up and down if confronted with it.



Fuck it... Maybe the Thetans are real. I give it 50/50 like I do God or pretty much any rule I ever am faced with that doesn't make immediate sense to me, such as not running with a pair of scissors.

Without any "auditing" or the decades of pestering you might endure if you didn't buy the book with cash at a used bookstore, I still trust these idiots more than most of you. Half are atheists (self rightous idiots with God complexes) and the other half of you mindlessly obey a god that doesn't seem to give a shit about you.

Fuck your religon. Honestly. Fuck it.

If you're so damn certain that there isn't a god, then fuck you too.

At least I'm open to the possibility that the Spaghetti Monster is real. You morons closed the book on that possibility before it even went mainstream.

I pity you....

How could you even enjoy the Goonies with such a limited and manipulated imagination?

Surely, there must have been an age young enough that you weren't so jaded that you couldn't enjoy The Brave Little Toaster?




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Monday, March 3, 2014 3:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


LYING RAPPY
FROM YOUR LINK? NOPE - NOT THERE. So, got any more LIES to spout?
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

"Did he claim it was a religious cult? "


Yep. He did.

" You can't hardly get a science grant these days without saying it has something to do with climate change. It is a kind of nasty combination of extreme political ideology and a religious cult all rolled into one." - Patrick Moore


Quote:

" And what does this do to your claim AGW is a religion, which has nothing to do with what he said? "


Now I don't care who ya are, that's just funny !




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Monday, March 3, 2014 3:43 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Did he claim it was a religious cult? Did he offer ANY scientific refutation of the facts that have been observed? Did he propose any logic to reinterpret existing information?



Of course not - like all deniers, he says its not happening - with nothing to back it, and no way to counter those who do have evidence.

And as always - the idiots desperate for something to sate their confirmation bias latch on. "Look! SomeONE who agrees with me. That, like, totally proves all that other research wrong - cuz its what I wanna hear! Wheeee!"




"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Monday, March 3, 2014 3:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


so much hate.....

I love the toaster so much more than anyone here.

I even love the radio, even though he was voiced by a 20-something John Lovitz, way before the Critic.


I like blacks and jews. On occasion, women aren't half bad too.




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Monday, March 3, 2014 4:12 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
LYING RAPPY

FROM YOUR LINK? NOPE - NOT THERE. So, got any more LIES to spout?



For me to have MORE lies, I'd have to have stated ONE lie, first.

Those are his words. Accurately quote. Per the topic matter on hand.

The arbitrary and bizarre caveat that his position MUST be contained with in the story I linked, and no where else, is a new low,even for you 1kiki.

I made you look like a ruttin' fool, and YOU SIMPLY CAN NOT DEAL !!

CRASSIC !!!

Making you look like an ass does not qualify anyone of being a " liar ".

Quote:

When asked by Hannity what’s driving the Climate Change agenda, he said this:

"It is a powerful convergence of interests among a very large number of elites, including politicians who want to make it seem as though they are saving the world, environmentalists who want to raise money and get control over very large issues like our entire energy policy, media for sensationalism, universities and professors for grants – you can’t hardly get a science grant these days without saying it has something to do with Climate Change.

It is a kind of nasty combination of extreme political ideology and a religious cult all rolled into one.
And it’s take over way too much of our thought process and way too much of our priorities. There are millions of children dying every day from preventable vitamin deficiencies and diseases and we’re spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a problem that may not exist."




http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/02/28/greenpeace-founder-says-climate-c
hange-combo-%E2%80%98extreme-political-ideology-and-religious



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Monday, March 3, 2014 4:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh, now you bring up a DIFFERENT link. not your original.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/26/greenpeace-co-founder-no-sci
entific-proof-humans-are-dominant-cause-warming
/

So, you lying ASSHOLE, was that in you ORIGINAL link? yes - or NO?

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Monday, March 3, 2014 4:56 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Oh, now you bring up a DIFFERENT link. not your original.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/26/greenpeace-co-founder-no-sci
entific-proof-humans-are-dominant-cause-warming
/

So, you lying ASSHOLE, was that in you ORIGINAL link? yes - or NO?




Neither am I lying, nor an asshole, but it's precious to see you get all bent out of shape after being so clearly humiliated !



No idea, to answer your question. Doesn't even matter. Those are his words. That's all that matters.

Deal.

Oh, btw....the header quote is OUTSIDE the quoted story I linked , so you really really REALLY look all the more petty than you did before. If that's even POSSIBLE !



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Monday, March 3, 2014 5:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And now we all know - what you are. In full. There's no lower for you to go.

definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."



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Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

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Monday, March 3, 2014 6:13 PM

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Might help if you put an ice bag on that area, 1kiki. Looks like it's gonna sting for quite a while.


DING !

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Monday, March 3, 2014 7:50 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(environmentalist)

LOL!



Things we should note about this guy:

1. He's a geologist, talking outside of his expertise
2. He founded a consultancy firm that makes money giving environmental advice to industry, notably mining and fossil fuels (both very CO2 polluting) - http://greenspiritstrategies.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Greenspirit-Strategies-Ltd/133151890177
271


Lone dissenting scientific voices are out there, but we're yet to meet any of them who demand to be listened to/believed, over the vast weight of scientific opinion out there saying the contrary. Keep looking though Auraptor!

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Monday, March 3, 2014 10:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_(environmentalist)

LOL!



Things we should note about this guy:

1. He's a geologist, talking outside of his expertise



Really? And Geologist have no understanding of ancient climates ?

As Morpheus would say.... " Hmmm. "



Quote:


2. He founded a consultancy firm that makes money giving environmental advice to industry, notably mining and fossil fuels (both very CO2 polluting) - http://greenspiritstrategies.com/
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Greenspirit-Strategies-Ltd/133151890177
271




Who better to use the input from a member of GreenPeace ? DUH!

Quote:



Lone dissenting scientific voices are out there, but we're yet to meet any of them who demand to be listened to/believed, over the vast weight of scientific opinion out there saying the contrary. Keep looking though Auraptor!

.



Lone voices ?

Is that like The Lone Gunmen ? *snicker*

Demand to be listened to / believed ?? What an odd way to phrase it. I guess you're just all in for 'screw any and all dissenting opinion', huh ??

Consensus is not science.

1000 to 1 doesn't make the 1 wrong, genius.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:40 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Consensus is not science.
I think I've already addressed this.

Consensus isn't science. But neither is knee-jerk opposition, or winnowing through mounds of facts for some teeny-tiny factoid. You don't know science, you don't do science, and therefore your opinions about science, or anything related to science are just that: opinions.

You used to be a lot more fun when you brought up glacier carbon dioxide or the Siberian tree rings, but then you got your ass handed to you and stopped being any fun at all...



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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 5:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:

Just as an aside; we used to work with Greenpeace back in the '70s, and we left it, too, after the big broo-ha-ha between Greenpeace Canada and Greenpeace USA, and somewhat because of politics as well. So what? That means nothing...but then neither does any of the other bullshit put up by trolls for no reason but to troll.




Right, and its not like Greenpeace are the the only or the leading even organisation that is looking at solutions to climate change. Organisations are political. Sometimes they go in directions you dont like. Big deal.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 6:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Consensus is not science.
I think I've already addressed this.

Consensus isn't science. But neither is knee-jerk opposition, or winnowing through mounds of facts for some teeny-tiny factoid. You don't know science, you don't do science, and therefore your opinions about science, or anything related to science are just that: opinions.

You used to be a lot more fun when you brought up glacier carbon dioxide or the Siberian tree rings, but then you got your ass handed to you and stopped being any fun at all...




In Parts of U.S., March Is the Coldest It's Been Since the 1800s

http://mashable.com/2014/03/03/usa-winter-temperatures-records/


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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:23 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

Really? And Geologist have no understanding of ancient climates ?

The difference between 'has some knowledge' and 'is an expert' is substantial.

Quote:

I guess you're just all in for 'screw any and all dissenting opinion', huh ??

No.

Quote:

1000 to 1 doesn't make the 1 wrong, genius.

1000 to 1 or 100 to 1 or even 20 to 1 demands that the '1' has a)strong arguments and b)excellent credentials. This guy has neither, it would seem.

Quote:

Who better to use the input from a member of GreenPeace ? DUH!

The point is that he makes money off high-emissions industries, so it's in his interest to deny AGW. Denial is probably a salve for his conscience as well.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:40 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
In Parts of U.S., March Is the Coldest It's Been Since the 1800s

Whatever will be, will be. The climate future's not ours to see. Que Sera, Sera.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:22 AM

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Kpo - your issue is that he makes $, period.

If he cares so much for the environment ( co-founder of green peace ) , why not help those industries? Who better ?

second - we are a flea on the dog's tail . Mankind isn't the one doing the wagging.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:04 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
second - we are a flea on the dog's tail . Mankind isn't the one doing the wagging.

Mankind did not put the fossil fuels into the ground, but it is burning the fuel to CO2. And then what happens next? "Nothing!" say some, based on their faith in the invisible and unknowable.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:09 AM

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What happens ? We bicker back & forth over the 'net , in our heated/ ac abodes, as we enjoy the comforts of modern living .



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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:37 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Quote:

Kpo - your issue is that he makes $, period

Haha, no, it's really not. I approve of his job (at least I don't disapprove). But I recognise a source of financial interest when I see one.

Quote:

econd - we are a flea on the dog's tail . Mankind isn't the one doing the wagging.

Basic physics be damned! Greenhouse gases have no effect on the planet's atmosphere!

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:40 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Mankind did not put the fossil fuels into the ground, but it is burning the fuel to CO2. And then what happens next? "Nothing!" say some, based on their faith in the invisible and unknowable.



And then they call research a "religion."

Such laughable buffoons.




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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:34 PM

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No significant effect , what so ever, kpo.

And if one goes by the last 17 years or so. It's global cooling we should fret 'bout, not warming.

Oh, right. We already tried than line .

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."



RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



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Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".




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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


second

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

Global Summary Information - January 2014
January Global Temperature Fourth Highest on Record

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
second

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

Global Summary Information - January 2014
January Global Temperature Fourth Highest on Record



Bah, data - that's just religious nonsense.

You need to listen to the real truth - which comes from the PR offices of energy companies. Their word is unquestionable, unlike the stoopid scientists, and their religion of "knowing stuff."






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Behold ! Global Warming !


( Err...well, it's Niagara Falls, frozen. Again. Pretty! )


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