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The Age of Global Warming

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 4:25 PM

AURAPTOR

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The game is up for climate change believers

Charles Moore reviews The Age of Global Warming by Rupert Darwall (Quartet)

The origins of warmism lie in a cocktail of ideas which includes anti-industrial nature worship, post-colonial guilt, a post-Enlightenment belief in scientists as a new priesthood of the truth, a hatred of population growth, a revulsion against the widespread increase in wealth and a belief in world government. It involves a fondness for predicting that energy supplies won’t last much longer (as early as 1909, the US National Conservation Commission reported to Congress that America’s natural gas would be gone in 25 years and its oil by the middle of the century), protest movements which involve dressing up and disappearing into woods (the Kindred of the Kibbo Kift, the Mosleyite Blackshirts who believed in reafforestation) and a dislike of the human race (The Club of Rome’s work Mankind at the Turning-Point said: “The world has cancer and the cancer is man.”).

These beliefs began to take organised, international, political form in the 1970s. One of the greatest problems, however, was that the ecologists’ attacks on economic growth were unwelcome to the nations they most idolised – the poor ones. The eternal Green paradox is that the concept of the simple, natural life appeals only to countries with tons of money. By a brilliant stroke, the founding fathers developed the concept of “sustainable development”. This meant that poor countries would not have to restrain their own growth, but could force restraint upon the rich ones. This formula was propagated at the first global environmental conference in Stockholm in 1972.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/non_fictionreviews/10748667/T
he-game-is-up-for-climate-change-believers.html

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 4:52 PM

CHRISISALL


Yep, that sinks it kids. Proof that Climate Change is a bunch of hooey. We can gather up our toys & go home now.
Thanks to AU for finding us this incontrovertible evidence.

Now someone tell those whiny Eskimos to shut up & just LOOK for ice to fish on- it's gotta be around there somewhere; they're just buying into the delusion.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 6:47 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Bla bla bla... implausible conspiracy theory... bla bla bla...

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:16 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by CHRISISALL:
Yep, that sinks it kids. Proof that Climate Change is a bunch of hooey. We can gather up our toys & go home now.
Thanks to AU for finding us this incontrovertible evidence.

Now someone tell those whiny Eskimos to shut up & just LOOK for ice to fish on- it's gotta be around there somewhere; they're just buying into the delusion.



There's ice a plenty, Chrissy. And the Inuit ? They have boats.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:22 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


"There’s a simple theory underlying much of American politics: the belief that many of our most bitter political battles are mere misunderstandings. The cause of these misunderstandings? Too little information — be it about climate change, or taxes, or Iraq, or the budget deficit. If only the citizenry were more informed, the thinking goes, then there wouldn’t be all this fighting. But the More Information Hypothesis isn’t just wrong. It’s backwards. Cutting-edge research shows that the more information partisans get, the deeper their disagreements become." - www.vox.com/2014/4/6/5556462/brain-dead-how-politics-makes-us-stupid

"In controlled experiments both conservatives and liberals systematically misread facts in a way that confirms their biases. And more information doesn’t help: people screen out or discount facts that don’t fit their worldview. Politics makes us stupid." - http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/asymmetric-stupidity/

A case of politics making people stupid - http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/08/three-legs-good-one-leg-ba
d
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:40 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
There's ice a plenty, Chrissy.

Show me.

Oh wait- yeah, you're right. There is some left...

http://coastguard.dodlive.mil/2013/05/u-s-coast-guard-to-unveil-arctic
-strategy/689574main_minseaice_20120916-orig_full
/

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:01 PM

CHRISISALL


Nice old picture.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:16 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by CHRISISALL:
Nice old picture.



Yours is from *Sept 2012, genius.



Happy now ?


* corrected

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:20 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yours is from May 2013, genius.

And there's even less ice now, Brainiac.

YOU see a trend here?


Thought not.

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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From LATE SUMMER 2012 to the most recent pic ( mine ) , there is MORE ice, not less, genius.

And late summer ? Really ? You're comparing apples to oranges. Ice at its lowest , compared to the more recent full winter freeze.

Good grief, you're such a toaster brain.


And to reiterate, the Inuit have boats. They, and the polar bears, are just fine.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:44 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Good grief, you're such a toaster brain.

Here, microwave mind:

Quote:


A satellite view of Arctic sea ice on March 21, 2014.

Despite a late-season boost from the cold weather patterns similar to those that blasted England with terrific storms in February, Arctic sea ice is still on a long-term decline, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center.

The Arctic ice cap expands every winter and shrinks every summer, in response to changing temperatures, sunlight and weather conditions. The sea ice hit its annual peak on March 21, covering 5.76 million square miles (14.91 million square kilometers), the NSIDC reported last week. That's the fifth-lowest maximum extent since satellite record keeping started in 1979.


http://www.livescience.com/25120-melt-images-vanishing-polar-ice.html

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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:21 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:38 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Why do you people even bother? The first sentence is quite sufficient to show you shouldn't even bother trying to deal with such insanity:
Quote:

The origins of warmism lie in a cocktail of ideas which includes anti-industrial nature worship, post-colonial guilt, a post-Enlightenment belief in scientists as a new priesthood of the truth, a hatred of population growth, a revulsion against the widespread increase in wealth and a belief in world government.


Good gawd...! There is practically every right-wing conspiracy theory and anti-left propaganda point around, all rolled into one, hee, hee, hee!


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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:36 AM

AURAPTOR

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Only Niki , it's true, and not a conspiracy by the Right.

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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:07 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Only Niki , it's true, and not a conspiracy by the Right.

The thinking is that when a prediction that the Tea Party dislikes does not come true that is proof that all disliked predictions are forever untrue. It is the Party's political logic that when anybody you dislike has been wrong about anything, ipso facto, everybody you dislike will always be wrong about everything. It is a kind of intoxicated thinking that really feels good in the morning.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:19 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


This has zero to do with the TEA party .

But thanks bunches for putting YOUR politics into the equation , where it's totally irrelevant .



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:10 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by CHRISISALL:
Yep, that sinks it kids. Proof that Climate Change is a bunch of hooey. We can gather up our toys & go home now.
Thanks to AU for finding us this incontrovertible evidence.

Now someone tell those whiny Eskimos to shut up & just LOOK for ice to fish on- it's gotta be around there somewhere; they're just buying into the delusion.



NO, I thought Signy's other thread already did that--- " it's irreversible and we're all gonna die by 2040."
Rather makes anything other than pointless hedonism not worth persuing.


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Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:16 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Why do you people even bother? The first sentence is quite sufficient to show you shouldn't even bother trying to deal with such insanity:
Quote:

The origins of warmism lie in a cocktail of ideas which includes anti-industrial nature worship, post-colonial guilt, a post-Enlightenment belief in scientists as a new priesthood of the truth, a hatred of population growth, a revulsion against the widespread increase in wealth and a belief in world government.


Good gawd...! There is practically every right-wing conspiracy theory and anti-left propaganda point around, all rolled into one, hee, hee, hee!



Yep, Niki, I was going to note the "objective tone" and "connotative balance" of that article. The only thing missing was that it was a "Commie plot."

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