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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:00 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Conservatives and 2nd Amendment folks just hope it will go away.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/14/us/kansas-jewish-center-shooting/ind
ex.html?hpt=hp_t3


Edited, somewhat...

Quote:



Police arrest 'raging anti-Semite' in Kansas Jewish center shootings
By Saeed Ahmed and Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN
April 14, 2014 -- Updated 1132 GMT (1932 HKT)

(CNN) -- A Missouri man, with a long virulent history of anti-Semitism, is suspected of killing a boy and his grandfather outside a Jewish community center in Kansas City and a woman at a Jewish assisted living facility nearby.

While police in Overland Park, Kansas, stopped short of labeling the Sunday attacks a hate crime until they were further along in their investigation, the suspect -- Frazier Glenn Miller -- is the founder and former leader of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Patriot Party.

Both operated as paramilitary organizations in the 1980s, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.

* * * * *

Video from CNN affiliate KMBC showed the suspect sitting in the back of a patrol car and shouting, "Heil Hitler."

Miller, the suspected shooter, is a "raging anti-Semite," who has posted extensively in online forums that advocates exterminating Jews, the Southern Poverty Law Center (the SPLC) said.

He has called Jews "swarthy, hairy, bow-legged, beady-eyed, parasitic midgets."


* * * * *

According to the SPLC, Miller founded and ran the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1980s. He was forced to shut down after the SPLC sued him for operating an illegal paramilitary organization and intimidating African-Americans.

He then formed another group, the White Patriot Party.

* * * * *

In the late 1980s, Miller spent three years in prison on weapons charges and for plotting the assassination of SPLC founder Morris Dees. The short sentence was a result of a plea bargain he struck with federal prosecutors. In exchange, he testified against 14 white supremacists in a sedition trial in Arkansas in 1988.




I find that last bit particularly interesting. This guy was a criminal. Not sure "plea bargained" is quite the same as "convicted", but he spent time in prison-- for weapons charges and plotting an assassination. And here he is with a gun, killing people. I thought the Second Amendment folks were assuring us that that would be the exception to absolute gun ownership freedom-- it would exempt criminals.

Or were all of his rights restored? Part of his plea bargain deal maybe? And just who were the folks who restored them, if so? Buncha liberal pussy judges in their black dresses? California commie liberal lawyers?
Buncha middle American liberal prosecuting attorneys?

I really wanta see some followup on this story.








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Monday, April 14, 2014 9:51 AM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
I find that last bit particularly interesting. This guy was a criminal. Not sure "plea bargained" is quite the same as "convicted", but he spent time in prison-- for weapons charges and plotting an assassination. And here he is with a gun, killing people. I thought the Second Amendment folks were assuring us that that would be the exception to absolute gun ownership freedom-- it would exempt criminals.



Yep. Federal law prohibits him from purchasing or owning a gun, so obviously he obtained it illegally. Unfortunately, Federal prosecutions for illegal sale or possession of firearms seem to be a low priority for the Justice Department.

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/statenews/x2055665420/Fact-check-illeg
al-gun-prosecutions-low-no-matter-what-party/print



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Monday, April 14, 2014 10:33 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Conservatives & 2nd Amendment types DO hope these klan monsters would just go away.

You don't ?

But this story is getting plenty of coverage. As it should.

Not being covered are the muslim cabbies in Cleveland. Seems they're refusing, for religious reasons, to participate in promoting the Gay Games, or even allowing openly gay customers cab service.

Had they not wanted to bake a gay wedding cake, or photograph a gay wedding, we'd hear all manner of wailing by the msm.

Guess the muslims get a pass in this one, huh?



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 10:44 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Unfortunately, Federal prosecutions for illegal sale or possession of firearms seem to be a low priority for the Justice Department.

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/statenews/x2055665420/Fact-check-illeg
al-gun-prosecutions-low-no-matter-what-party/print







OMG, the tyrannical gun confiscating OBAMA federal government isn't prosecuting folks for illegal gun sales? Passing up those slam dunks? Just making lists do they can seize the guns later from law-abiding folks?

I'm confused. Does that mean that the NRA and the 2nd Amendment guys have been EXAGGERATING all along? or just flat out lying?

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Monday, April 14, 2014 10:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Unfortunately, Federal prosecutions for illegal sale or possession of firearms seem to be a low priority for the Justice Department.

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/statenews/x2055665420/Fact-check-illeg
al-gun-prosecutions-low-no-matter-what-party/print




.

OMG, the tyrannical gun confiscating OBAMA federal government isn't prosecuting folks for illegal gun sales? Passing up those slam dunks? Just making lists do they can seize the guns later from law-abiding folks?

I'm confused. Does that mean that the NRA and the 2nd Amendment guys have been EXAGGERATING all along? or just flat out lying?



More ' Fast & Furious ' tactics @ work. Allow these " slam dunks " to occur, force a public outcry, and then take advantage of a manufactured crisis

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 11:11 AM

STORYMARK


Just a step away from screaming "false flag," aintcha?




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Monday, April 14, 2014 11:46 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Just a step away from screaming "false flag," aintcha?


"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"



You deny that the obama admin knowingly allowed guns to travel cross border ?

Funny.

Anything for your messiah, i see.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 11:58 AM

STORYMARK


Isn't it cute how he responds to things people never said? And always caps it with that moronic "messiah" bullshit.

I wonder, does he actually imagine hearing/reading these things that were not said/written - or is he just that big of a chickenshit when it comes to honest discourse?

Maybe we should just call him AUstrawman.

Such a intellectually vacant piece of shit, he is.




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Monday, April 14, 2014 12:30 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


You're not capable of honest discourse, Storybook.

So full of irrational hatered & ingorance.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 1:47 PM

STORYMARK


Says the moron who offered nothing but a strawman to follow his conspiracy theory.

You can keep saying it, you halfwit - but you're not fooling anyone. You're Pirate News without all the copy/pasted pics.




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Monday, April 14, 2014 3:16 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


And Marky is Kaneman without the intellect and wit.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 3:18 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Ahem, by your own admission, you're a nobody.


To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, April 14, 2014 3:26 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Ahem, by your own admission, you're a nobody.


Correct Rue.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 3:27 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're not capable of honest discourse

Oh c'mon. Talking 'discourse'? You are not capable of it where politics are concerned. It always turns into nyeah nyeah, eh ehhhh!!! YOU are the one so full of short circuits in this area. I won't even bother to TRY to talk to you seriously about anything you consider political any more.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 4:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Chrissy - You and others are guilty of the very things you accuse me of being, simply because I reject the Alliance propaganda mantra.

The Emperor has no clothes, I state that simple fact, and I'm attacked for it by the dutiful myrmidons who can't stand to have their dear and fluffy leader criticized.

I get that.


I really do.


But it doesn't make me the bad guy.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Monday, April 14, 2014 4:51 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
But it doesn't make me the bad guy.

Never said you WERE the bad guy.
You're actually like a nicer version of Jayne.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:34 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Isn't it cute how he responds to things people never said? And always caps it with that moronic "messiah" bullshit.

I wonder, does he actually imagine hearing/reading these things that were not said/written - or is he just that big of a chickenshit when it comes to honest discourse?




True.

It appears that NOBC is just trolling so he can rant.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:30 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Isn't it cute how he responds to things people never said? And always caps it with that moronic "messiah" bullshit.

I wonder, does he actually imagine hearing/reading these things that were not said/written - or is he just that big of a chickenshit when it comes to honest discourse?




True.

It appears that NOBC is just trolling so he can rant.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."



Thanks for illustrating that you have become a staggeringly dishonest fuckwad like rappy.




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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


' Rush floats staged shoe throwing theory '

So says The Politico & USA Today.
One problem. He never did. It was a caller, not Rush, who posed the possibility.

Quote:


While Limbaugh said on his radio show Monday that he hadn’t seen it and was thus “ill-equipped” to discuss the incident, which occurred during a speech in Las Vegas last week, he still suspected the whole thing wasn’t as it seemed.


http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/rush-limbaugh-hillary-clinton-st
aged-shoe-theory-105686.html



What was ACTUALLY said , on the show.

Quote:

Look, let me tell you, I can totally relate to people who think that he can't be the Clintons do staged or choreographed.

But I haven't seen it. I've got people telling me her reaction wasn't natural. But I'm sorry, I'm ill-equipped to comment. I haven't seen it. (interruption) No. I haven't cared enough to go try to find it. I really haven't. Somebody threw a shoe at Hillary. Big whoop. Maybe it's because in my subconscious I think it was staged our set up or whatever.



But the media ran with the lie, as if it were the truth.

It must be a Tuesday.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:02 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


...and here I thought NPR was part of the "liberal media" and they have been covering this.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:28 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:


It appears that NOBC is just trolling so he can rant.





I'm ranting? I'm trolling? Hey, I replied ONCE.

I will admit that the header, my comments in the original post, and my one response were sort of a parody of RW A**Holeism, that was my intention. BUt that's sarcasm or parody, not trolling or ranting, either one. If ya can't stand the heat...

And thanx, Story. You're smart enough to read between the lines and appreciate what I posted.

E-T-A: this Klan bozo ran for office a couple years ago, Congress I think it was. I thought that being a convicted felon eliminated your right to vote, let alone hold office, or run for one. So have his rights been restored? Was he pardoned? Were the guns he had illegal, or was that right restored too? DOES ANYBODY *K*N*O*W* ?

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:06 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
...and here I thought NPR was part of the "liberal media" and they have been covering this.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



What, you expect a little reality to interfere with their fantasy??

HA!




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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:33 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by M52NICKERSON:
...and here I thought NPR was part of the "liberal media" and they have been covering this.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



What, you expect a little reality to interfere with their fantasy??

HA!

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"



Here I go ranting and trolling again.

NPR isn't part of the liberal media, dont'cha know? It's the heart and soul of the whole thing, the propaganda mouthpiece so unpopular that it has to be government subsidized to spew the administration radical socialist line because it could never be popular enough to succeed if it had to compete with commercial media that tell the truth, like Fox News.

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Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:05 PM

STORYMARK


Even when writing something deliberately stupid - you still don't come off as wildly raving as our trolls.




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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:38 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:


It appears that NOBC is just trolling so he can rant.





I'm ranting? I'm trolling? Hey, I replied ONCE.

I will admit that the header, my comments in the original post, and my one response were sort of a parody of RW A**Holeism, that was my intention. BUt that's sarcasm or parody, not trolling or ranting, either one.



If you have to explain the joke, it didn't work.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:48 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
commercial media that tell the truth, like Fox News.

Now I see that this is a joke thread.

Okay, this ray of sunshine walks into a hotel to check in. The concierge asks "I see you have no luggage; will it arrive later?"
"No. I'm travelling light."

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:55 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:


If you have to explain the joke, it didn't work.





Or perhaps, as Fozzie Bear used to ask, "Am I too hip for the room?"

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:01 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:


E-T-A: this Klan bozo ran for office a couple years ago, Congress I think it was. I thought that being a convicted felon eliminated your right to vote, let alone hold office, or run for one. So have his rights been restored? Was he pardoned? Were the guns he had illegal, or was that right restored too? DOES ANYBODY *K*N*O*W* ?



OK, Dead ruttin' serious here. I really want to know the answers to those questions. Nothing in the media coverage I have seen answers them. Maybe I have to hunker down and do a couple days serious research. But first, I'll ask the question again, dead straight:

Does anybody actually *K*N*O*W* ?


Anybody around here, I mean, not in the great metaphysical sense.

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Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:09 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:


E-T-A: this Klan bozo ran for office a couple years ago, Congress I think it was. I thought that being a convicted felon eliminated your right to vote, let alone hold office, or run for one. So have his rights been restored? Was he pardoned? Were the guns he had illegal, or was that right restored too? DOES ANYBODY *K*N*O*W* ?



OK, Dead ruttin' serious here. I really want to know the answers to those questions. Nothing in the media coverage I have seen answers them. Maybe I have to hunker down and do a couple days serious research. But first, I'll ask the question again, dead straight:

Does anybody actually *K*N*O*W* ?


Anybody around here, I mean, not in the great metaphysical sense.



OK, there's one answer, buried in the body of the one story I could find a link to on CNN.com, the media having moved on to bigger and bloodier stories. Bozo ran a write-in campaign for the US Senate in 2010, got 7 votes... Earlier media reporting made it sound like a serious, organized, sponsored campaign.

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Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:22 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Quote:

Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:


E-T-A: this Klan bozo ran for office a couple years ago, Congress I think it was. I thought that being a convicted felon eliminated your right to vote, let alone hold office, or run for one. So have his rights been restored? Was he pardoned? Were the guns he had illegal, or was that right restored too? DOES ANYBODY *K*N*O*W* ?



OK, Dead ruttin' serious here. I really want to know the answers to those questions. Nothing in the media coverage I have seen answers them. Maybe I have to hunker down and do a couple days serious research. But first, I'll ask the question again, dead straight:

Does anybody actually *K*N*O*W* ?


Anybody around here, I mean, not in the great metaphysical sense.



I answered that up above, but you were apparently too busy trying to make a funny to read it.

If he's a felon, it's against Federal law for him to buy or possess a firearm. I don't know of any way to reverse this unless his conviction is overturned. He has to have had it stashed from prior to his conviction (and possession would still be illegal), or obtained it illegally, either by theft, or by having someone else buy it for him (straw purchase). If it's the latter, that someone else has also committed a Federal crime. As noted above, the Justice Department doesn't place a very high priority on prosecuting firearms possessions by felons or straw purchases.

Some states allow reinstatement of voting rights for felons if they apply and can show they're rehabilitated.

As far as I know, there is nothing prohibiting a felon from running for public office. The story of D.C.'s previous mayor, and current City Councilman, Marion Barry is an example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_barry
ETA: It might depend on the jurisdiction. In D.C., for example, elected city government officials convicted of felonies relating to their city jobs (bribery, influence peddling, etc.) cannot, by city law, be forced to give up their position.

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