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CIA and FBI helping Kiev fight its citizens

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Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I hope you can read German, I know just enough (back from University chemistry days, when we were required to learn either German or Russian to read chemistry research abstracts; the biggest journal at the time was Beilstein) to piece this together. I'll see if I can find the English version.

http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/nachrichtendienste-usa/dutzende-age
nten-von-cia-und-fbi-beraten-kiew-35807724.bild.html

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Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:01 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Chrome offers a translated version, but I'm guessing its accuracy will be questioned ?

- The agents were not directly in the fighting with the pro-Russian militias in the Eastern Ukraine involved. Their activity is limited to the capital, Kiev.


- The FBI agents help the Kiev transitional government in addition to combat organized crime in the country: a corporation specializing in financial investigations group of investigators and analysts of the U.S. federal police to the assets of the former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych track.


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Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And the NSA wasn't spying on us, and Benghazi was all about a movie.

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Sunday, May 4, 2014 1:34 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


nice non sequitors.

Wanna dispute the translations ? Offer up your own?

Go for it.

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Sunday, May 4, 2014 5:31 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


http://news.yahoo.com/cia-fbi-agents-advising-ukraine-government-repor
t-101508429.html


Here is the a story regarding it in english. It states the CIA and FBI are helping but from Kiev, as Rappy said.

It is funny that SIGNYM will believe the CIA and FBI are doing more, but not that Russian forces are helping and agitating the militants in the east.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:52 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:46 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Gotta pay close attention to that auto - correct there, Miker.

I believe the word you're looking for here is " familiar " .

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Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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The head of the CIA was in the Ukraine last month. They are seeking our advice and support. I won't deny that
Good.
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and will even suggest it is good we are doing it.
Is that your "non-ideological" stance?
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As for what you point out about SIGNYM, for now I will take someone's advice and leave that alone.
Good, because neither M52 nor KPO know what I think about Russian involvement in Ukraine, if any. I've not said one way or another, and anything that THEY (or you) might say about it is pure supposition.
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I wish to address these issues with those who are not coming from an ideological perspective.
Yeah, me too. Not finding it here tho.
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The truth is the truth.
Indeed. Eventually, the truth came out about Vietnam. Eventually, the truth came out about Iraq's "WMD". Eventually, the truth came out about Benghazi. The truth is coming out about Syria and its chemical weapons. And eventually the truth will come out about Ukraine.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 12:14 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Eventually, the truth came out about Vietnam. Eventually, the truth came out about Iraq's "WMD". Eventually, the truth came out about Benghazi. The truth is coming out about Syria and its chemical weapons. And eventually the truth will come out about Ukraine.



Way to blur the entire current issue, but digging up past, totally unrelated ones.


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Monday, May 5, 2014 12:57 AM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Monday, May 5, 2014 1:34 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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We got everything you want, you'll soon know all the names
We are the people that you find, whatever you may need
If you got the keyboard, honey we got your disease

In the RWED, welcome to the RWED
Watch it bring you to your kn-kn-knees, knees
I wanna watch you bleed

Welcome to the RWED we take it day by day
If you want it you're gonna bleed but it's the price you pay
And there's only psycho girls who are very hard to please
You can taste the bright lights but you won't get them for free

In the RWED, welcome to the RWED
Feel your, your, your, your patience leave
I, I wanna hear you scream

Welcome to the RWED it gets worse here everyday
You learn to post like an ideologue in the RWED where we play
If you got a hunger for what you see, you'll take it eventually
You can post anything you want but you better not misquote me

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Watch it bring you to your kn-kn-knees, knees
I'm gonna watch your mind bleed

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Monday, May 5, 2014 3:29 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


JONGSS - Hmmm... nice lyrics, but I don't know the original tune. Where's it from?

MIKER- this is a discussion forum, presumably public. Nobody keeps the conversational lines straight, so get used to it. AFA your temper... this might not be the place for you, especially if you suffer from high blood pressure. But yanno, we've had real schizophrenics on-board, so you won't stand out in any way.


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Monday, May 5, 2014 11:21 AM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Monday, May 5, 2014 12:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Well, Miker, there's another way to indicate quotes and it goes like this: "respected my intellectual property rights". Those quote marks - they're on the keyboard and everything!

You're claiming IP? REALLY??? On an anonymous board. During a discussion where 'fair use' is in play.

Speaking of delusional.

Whatever.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, May 5, 2014 1:01 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity





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Monday, May 5, 2014 1:01 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity






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Monday, May 5, 2014 1:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Reply with quote is no guarantee against misuse - like this:
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Originally posted by MIKER:

When you learned to use quotations you also learned to list the source. Am I wrong? Other wise the quotation marks mean nothing. They are just marks on a page.

As members of this site we are mean. I can edit your post.



Furthermore - as there is a 'reply with quote' there is also a 'reply' with no quote at all. I think the designer's intent was quite clear - we can do either.

BTW of you see your words quoted - I think it's safe to assume people are discussing your words.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, May 5, 2014 2:06 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



















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Monday, May 5, 2014 2:26 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh, I got that. But yanno, if you want to be obsessive about 'reply with quote' go ahead. Just don't get in a tizzy if other people merely use quotation marks or other devices to indicate quotes. Personally, I find 'reply with quotes' visually confusing. My eyes are bad and I have visual processing errors. So I spend considerable time to make my posts as VISUALLY clear TO ME as possible. If you don't like it - well, that's too bad. I guess you don't have to read them.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, May 5, 2014 2:47 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity




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Monday, May 5, 2014 3:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


This is what you posted

The head of the CIA was in the Ukraine last month. They are seeking our advice and support. I won't deny that and will even suggest it is good we are doing it. As for what you point out about SIGNYM, for now I will take someone's advice and leave that alone. I wish to address these issues with those who are not coming from an ideological perspective. The truth is the truth.


This is the reply

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The head of the CIA was in the Ukraine last month. They are seeking our advice and support. I won't deny that
Good.
Quote:

and will even suggest it is good we are doing it.
Is that your "non-ideological" stance?
Quote:

As for what you point out about SIGNYM, for now I will take someone's advice and leave that alone.
Good, because neither M52 nor KPO know what I think about Russian involvement in Ukraine, if any. I've not said one way or another, and anything that THEY (or you) might say about it is pure supposition.
Quote:

I wish to address these issues with those who are not coming from an ideological perspective.
Yeah, me too. Not finding it here tho.
Quote:

The truth is the truth.
Indeed. Eventually, the truth came out about Vietnam. Eventually, the truth came out about Iraq's "WMD". Eventually, the truth came out about Benghazi. The truth is coming out about Syria and its chemical weapons. And eventually the truth will come out about Ukraine.

Tell me - are any words missing? Moved around? Changed? Was your post substantially or even trivially misrepresented? What specifically can you point to that indicates - whatever it is you think you have a problem with?
Because as far as I can tell, your post was quoted completely, accurately and in order. It was addressed the same way, specifically, completely, accurately and even in order, point by point. Just because you got your BS ass handed to you is no reason to complain that the person wasn't 'fair' to you in some way.




OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, May 5, 2014 3:24 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity




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Monday, May 5, 2014 3:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Those are my words that I posted in response to someone else. I stand by them in the context they were posted in. You put them in your post mixed in with your remarks, unidentified as being from me and used them as part of your delusional rant. You babbling American hating socialist piece of shit.

You have something to say to me you say it. If not shut the Fuck up!

You are a delusional ( having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions )hateful miserable soul, and I have a temper. I suggest you do not respond to anything I post and I will do the same. I realize there will be spillage if you go to post with a quote and they have me in their post. That is fine.

I suggest you take me up on this it you want to keep the peace.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Monday, May 5, 2014 3:36 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity






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Monday, May 5, 2014 4:45 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Nicely done, Jongs.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 4:57 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Nicely done, Jongs.


Thank you. Thank you very much. The muse was upon me.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 5:00 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Monday, May 5, 2014 5:10 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:

To my fellow Browncoats, I apologize for what is occurring between SIGNYM and my self and by not responding to each other in the future I hope to spare you any more of this.


Don't apologize. Your unbridled enthusiasm has yielded some great smackdowns. They were inspirational. It's clear you have much to offer here.

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Monday, May 5, 2014 5:51 PM

MIKER

Once I found Serenity



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Wednesday, September 20, 2023 6:55 AM

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https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/20/vladimir-putin-is-pushing-the-world-to-
the-final-war-zelensky-warns-19527470
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and that stupid b-movie the Sharia Law mob of world wanted banned

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