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Saturday, May 24, 2014 2:49 PM

MIKER

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
You clam: Jewelstaitefan;
Incorrect. Ford was not the Veep at the time of any of the 3 proposed charges, or Articles of alleged misdeeds. Are you claiming another charge or Article specifying misdeeds which occurred at a time when Ford was Veep



I did not read further than this silly comment.

Vice President

Spiro Agnew (1969–1973)
Gerald Ford (1973–1974)

What I claimed was Ford was Nixon's Vice President.

Gerald Ford became Nixon's second Vice President after Agnew resigned in disgrace.


I see that my wording may be confusing, unless you are intentionally being obtuse in order to claim that Gerald Ford was Vice President while the alleged misdeeds occurred which Nixon was accused of in the charges or Articles.

Article I. 17 June, 1972. Vice President was Spiro Agnew.
Article II. Date not specified, but claims to happen between 1969 and mid 1973. Vice President was Spiro Agnew.
Article III. Pile on allegations relevant only if Article I is valid, otherwise information falls under Executive Privledge. Also based on the date of 17 June, 1972. Vice President was Spiro Agnew.

Congress approved Gerald Ford as Vice President on 27 November, 1973.

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Glad you were entertained.



Funny you should react like that.

Your personna has undergone a large shift as late. Just like Sig. Just like Rappy.

Hmmm.




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Really? In what way? Since when? Compared to when/where/what?

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:08 PM

MIKER

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:

I elect not to indulge the aforementioned clown, buffoon and or Illiterate beyond this point instead choosing to it let pass.

By posting this you are not letting it pass, Rap, oops! I mean, MIKER.
Sorry, all politically self-righteous & ultimately infallible peeps look the same to me.

I hope they're not paying you well for this nonsense.



Miker/Rap/Sig/JSF/etc apparently have nothing to do all day but post back and forth with trivial stupid insults that have no actual factual content.


I posted no factual content?
Well, this certainly debunks the concept of you actually reading the thread.

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:20 PM

MIKER

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Now you are offering up other peoples opinions as prof of your argument. Read what you have just posted. It is about Nixon's innocents. Along with a personal opinion about me that I also found entertaining.

As I have said many times now including when I answered your quoted post the first time, it is Gerald Ford and others who say he is guilty. Take it up with them.


I have no idea which post you are referring to. This post and it's claims don't make sense, so I would respond to them if I knew what you meant.


This is my post which is stamped 24 May, 2:34pm my time. In it I quote your post from 23 May, 5:44pm.
Your next post at 24 May, 2:43pm states that the post you are referring to in your 23 May, 5:44pm post is a post from 24 May, 2:06pm.
So you referred to a post which was not yet made?

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:46 PM

MIKER

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 9:14 PM

MIKER

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Hey MAL4PREZ:


Mistakes do happen but not this time. When I did mistake your post for being hostel towards me, (the other post) you could have just pointed it out. After all you did recognize it as being a mistake and not directed at you? It does get a little confusing all these posts and all. So why did you respond the way you did????

I see with you it is self praise your into. I love reading how you have my personality figured out. How you are so hip to me. So, your the groups psychoanalyst. I have enjoyed watching you slink in and out of conversations. Reappearing long enough to school the rest of us on our delusions or ignorance as perceived by you, only to disappear again. A bit of a narcissist huh.

"Again I can do nothing but point and laugh. I have not argued with "Miker" before tonight. On purpose. To flush you out".

This is a quote form you and appears to me to be classic narcissistic behavior.


"Sig undergoes an extreme change in personality after I poke her/it about her years-old symbiosis with Rap".

Another quote from you. You're so hip to us all. Yep, the psychoanalyst. I love the way you explain to the other participants in the thread what you are up to and how you have proceeded so brilliantly, because with you that's what its really about is it not?


Which is why you have this link in your signature:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=57532
"Peer-reviewed scientific paper: Internet Trolls are Narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, and sadistic".

Yeah, you have to show all how you are so brilliant and can stalk your victim coming in for the kill with your super wit to expose our psychosis. You pick something here someone said and pick something there someone said, because really, offering some new insight into the discussion is not what you are about. Coming to the rescue is. Trying to be everyone's champion is. After the setup of pretending to offer some new truth( which is usually little more than something you have cut and pasted ), you character assonate the one you have picked for that particular performance.

"Trolls are Narcissistic", and judging from what you have written in the post I am responding to, I would say that title fits you just fine.

Your problem is, you have no arrows in you quiver.


Nope, not impressed at all.

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:51 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:

Hey MAL4PREZ:


Mistakes do happen but not this time. When I did mistake your post for being hostel towards me, (the other post) you could have just pointed it out. After all you did recognize it as being a mistake and not directed at you? It does get a little confusing all these posts and all. So why did you respond the way you did????

I see with you it is self praise your into. I love reading how you have my personality figured out. How you are so hip to me. So, your the groups psychoanalyst. I have enjoyed watching you slink in and out of conversations. Reappearing long enough to school the rest of us on our delusions or ignorance as perceived by you, only to disappear again. A bit of a narcissist huh.

"Again I can do nothing but point and laugh. I have not argued with "Miker" before tonight. On purpose. To flush you out".

This is a quote form you and appears to me to be classic narcissistic behavior.


"Sig undergoes an extreme change in personality after I poke her/it about her years-old symbiosis with Rap".

Another quote from you. You're so hip to us all. Yep, the psychoanalyst. I love the way you explain to the other participants in the thread what you are up to and how you have proceeded so brilliantly, because with you that's what its really about is it not?


Which is why you have this link in your signature:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=57532
"Peer-reviewed scientific paper: Internet Trolls are Narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, and sadistic".

Yeah, you have to show all how you are so brilliant and can stalk your victim coming in for the kill with your super wit to expose our psychosis. You pick something here someone said and pick something there someone said, because really, offering some new insight into the discussion is not what you are about. Coming to the rescue is. Trying to be everyone's champion is. After the setup of pretending to offer some new truth( which is usually little more than something you have cut and pasted ), you character assonate the one you have picked for that particular performance.

"Trolls are Narcissistic", and judging from what you have written in the post I am responding to, I would say that title fits you just fine.

Your problem is, you have no arrows in you quiver.


Nope, not impressed at all.



This is the thread you meant, "Miker"? You and JSF jerking each other over meaningless stupidness?

Again: yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

I know you as much as I need to.


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Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:57 PM

MIKER

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:06 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Goodnight.

Yeah, she was a pretty hot MI6 agent, eh? A bit daft, but what a dish.

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:25 PM

MIKER

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Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:28 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
You got that right, very good.

Thanks MIKER!

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Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:58 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:

The reason it is not called an Impeachment is because he accepted guilt of all charges and to just call it an Impeachment would be to lessen the graveness of history's final judgment against Richard Nixon.

In this thread you all keep saying Nixon has not accepted guilt, but Gerald Ford his Vice President at the time of the offence,


Incorrect. Ford was not the Veep at the time of any of the 3 proposed charges, or Articles of alleged misdeeds. Are you claiming another charge or Article specifying misdeeds which occurred at a time when Ford was Veep?



This is a repeat quote, where you can clearly see that you stated another falsehood, that Ford was Veep at the time of the offence.
Now, you shuffle the facts to say you never said this, that you never said that Ford was Veep at the tinme of the offence. This is another falsehood.

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Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:00 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Now you are offering up other peoples opinions as prof of your argument. Read what you have just posted. It is about Nixon's innocents. Along with a personal opinion about me that I also found entertaining.

As I have said many times now including when I answered your quoted post the first time, it is Gerald Ford and others who say he is guilty. Take it up with them.


I have no idea which post you are referring to. This post and it's claims don't make sense, so I would respond to them if I knew what you meant.


This is my post which is stamped 24 May, 2:34pm my time. In it I quote your post from 23 May, 5:44pm.
Your next post at 24 May, 2:43pm states that the post you are referring to in your 23 May, 5:44pm post is a post from 24 May, 2:06pm.
So you referred to a post which was not yet made?



You are a really funny guy. Show me where it shows a time stamp on the quotes in blue you have posted. DUH! You show me quotes with no time stamps and then proceed to put your own to them. That's great. Proves nothing.

I am still waiting for the documents showing all the White House Lawyers reigned with Nixon to prepare his defense. You have done nothing but change the subject since I ask you to produce them. When you produce them I will start responding to your posts. Show me documents showing they resigned.

WASH: Yes, Jayne. She’s a witch. She has had congress with the beast. JAYNE: She’s in Congress? WASH: How did your brain even learn human speech? I’m just so curious.

You know before I insult you I should ask your age?



Is anybody else this dense? Does anybody else not understand this?

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Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:45 PM

MIKER

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Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:19 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
In this thread you all keep saying Nixon has not accepted guilt, but Gerald Ford his Vice President at the time of the offence,






You miss understand. While this whole process was taking place ford was first a vice president and then president. I never implied he was vice president during the break in.


"Vice President at the time of the offence" certainly sounds like you not only implied but clearly stated that he was Veep during the break in.

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Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Show me the documents that support what you suggest. That all the White House lawyers resigned with Nixon and started preparing his defense?


Your quote:
"Incorrect. Nixon's White House Staff of lawyers was out of the game for a month between resignation and pardon. The lawyers of Nixon's White House were preparing to defend the false charges (Articles) when Nixon himself made the decision to resign in the best interests of the nation".


This seems like a tangent. How does the presence of lawyers determine whether Nixon was Impeached? None of these people were in the House of Representatives at the time, and could not have voted for or against Impeachment.

But, to satisfy your diversion,

White House Counsels:
Nixon 1969-73 Charles W. Colson
Nixon 1969-70 John Erlichman
Nixon 1970-73 John W. Dean III
Nixon 1973-74 Leonard Garment
Ford 1974-75 William E Cassellman II
Ford 1974-77 Philip W. Buchen

Note that none of the White House Counsels from Nixon carried over to Ford.

Other Nixon lawyers in White House:
Herbert W. Kalmbach
Egil "Bud" Krogh

Nixon Lawyers for Pardon, after he resigned:
Leonard W. Buchen
Herbert J. "Jack" Miller (criminal defense)
All of the other Nixon Counsels (listed above) were not practicing by this time.

Other Ford White House lawyers:
Benton Becker
John Marsh
Robert Hartmann
Fred Buzhardt

Does that help you?

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Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:28 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by MIKER:
Now you are offering up other peoples opinions as prof of your argument. Read what you have just posted. It is about Nixon's innocents. Along with a personal opinion about me that I also found entertaining.

As I have said many times now including when I answered your quoted post the first time, it is Gerald Ford and others who say he is guilty. Take it up with them.


I have no idea which post you are referring to. This post and it's claims don't make sense, so I would respond to them if I knew what you meant.


This is my post which is stamped 24 May, 2:34pm my time. In it I quote your post from 23 May, 5:44pm.
Your next post at 24 May, 2:43pm states that the post you are referring to in your 23 May, 5:44pm post is a post from 24 May, 2:06pm.
So you referred to a post which was not yet made?


For your information, time stamps do not follow with the quotes. In order to help you find your mistakes and perhaps correct your errors so that the rest of us can follow what you were trying to distract us with, I went and found the time stamps (in my time zone, which should be the same as yours despite different Meridian segments) so that you could find tham yourself and untangle that which you tangled and confused.

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Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:10 PM

JONGSSTRAW



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Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:17 PM

CHRISISALL


Jong, it's impolite to interrupt an unending misunderstanding of technical political structural context.

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Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:29 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Hey Chris, even Ron Jeremy in his prime couldn't last this long!

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Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:35 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Hey Chris, even Ron Jeremy couldn't last this long!

Heh, I was in a movie with him. My dubious claim to fame. Never saw him on set though.


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Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:52 PM

OONJERAH



This is a filibuster misunderstanding?
I had no idea!
.
.
.
What's the record length in pages for one of these?



... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:05 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Heh, I was in a movie with him. My dubious claim to fame. Never saw him on set though.


Ron must have been a hard act to follow.

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Monday, June 2, 2014 7:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Hey Chris, even Ron Jeremy couldn't last this long!

Heh, I was in a movie with him. My dubious claim to fame. Never saw him on set though.


You were catching? facing away from him?

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Monday, June 2, 2014 8:04 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

You were catching? facing away from him?



Sorry, try again. This has been debunked. Once again, you are demonstrably in error, and ensconced in the endless anti-whom-you-hate bullshit. Feel free to go on, and prove yourself more the idiot than you have already (Heh, if that's even possible at this point).
You proved me right here.
Thanks.

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Monday, June 2, 2014 8:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Looks like I have finally caught up enough to reach the end of this thread for the first time in about 4 weeks.

Looks like we now all agree that "Nixon was Impeached" was a lie.
And "Nixon admitted guilt" was a lie.
And "Nixon left his lawyers for Ford's White House" was a lie.
And "Ford was Vice President at the time of the offense" was a lie.
And "JewelStaiteFan is wrong about all the facts he is posting" was a lie.


It was time consuming to try to correct the onslaught of lies perpetrated in this thread.

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Monday, June 2, 2014 8:20 PM

JONGSSTRAW


SO ... FUCKING ... WHAT??

You want a medal now?

Besides, all you really proved is that you're as big an assclown as the clueless douche you argued with for 200 posts.

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Monday, June 2, 2014 8:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Does "it depends upon what the definition of 'is' is" not count as a lie?

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Monday, June 2, 2014 8:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:



Besides, all you really proved is that you're as big an assclown as the clueless douche you argued with for 200 posts.


Being eternally optimistic and helping out lesser minds to see the light is not an unworthy cause or goal.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Did somebody delete their posts? Embarrassed by their cluelessness? Didn't realize that their idiotic posts quoted by another cannot be deleted by them?

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