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Obama's FCC proposes to kill net neutrality

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Amid protests, FCC proposes new 'net neutrality' rules

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. telecommunications regulators on Thursday formally proposed new "net neutrality" rules that may let Internet service providers charge content companies for faster and more reliable delivery of their traffic to users.

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Tom Wheeler has come under fire from consumer advocates and technology companies for proposing to allow some "commercially reasonable" deals in which content companies could pay broadband providers to prioritize traffic on their networks.

Wheeler's two fellow Democrats at the FCC concurred with him

for a 3-2 vote to advance the proposal and begin formally collecting public comment, though they expressed misgivings about the plan.

"I believe the process that got us to this rulemaking today is flawed. I would have preferred a delay. I think we moved too fast to be fair," said Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel.

"The real call to action begins after the vote today," said Commissioner Mignon Clyburn. "This is your opportunity to formally make your points on the record. You have the ear of the entire FCC. The eyes of the world are on all of us."

Critics worry the rules would create "fast lanes" for companies that pay up and slower traffic for others, although Wheeler has pledged to prevent "acts to divide the Internet between 'haves' and 'have nots.'"

The FCC's proposal tentatively concludes that some pay-for-priority deals may be allowed, but asks whether "some or all" such deals should be banned and how to ensure paid prioritization does not relegate any traffic to "slow lanes."

"I will not allow the national asset of an open Internet to be compromised. I understand this issue in my bones," said Wheeler, formerly a private equity investor and cable industry lobbyist.

"Simply put, when a consumer buys a specified bandwidth, it is commercially unreasonable and thus a violation of this proposal to deny them the full connectivity and the full benefits that connection enables."

More than 100 activists protested at the FCC, with signs reading "Liberate the Internet" and "Keep the Internet Free." four onlookers were escorted out of the meeting room for shouting protests.

Consumer advocates want the FCC to reclassify Internet providers as utilities, like telephone companies, rather than as the less-regulated information services they are now.

Opponents have told Wheeler that stricter regulations would throw the industry into legal limbo, discourage investment in network infrastructure and still not prevent pay-for-priority deals.

Numerous technology companies, including Google Inc and Facebook Inc, have spoken out against allowing pay-for-priority, although they have not called for reclassification.


http://news.yahoo.com/amid-protests-u-fcc-vote-net-neutrality-proposal
-050248877--sector.html

I could take Wheeler's logic apart, but the reality is that this is just one more corrupt decision by a money-driven government. America truly is an oligarchy.

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:40 PM

CHRISISALL


It'll be like the old days on dial-up, just way more expensive! Yea!

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 2:21 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And now I have to post a rappy -

YO!! All you libs!

How much has to be laid at Obama's feet before you rise up in numbers and complain even a little?

Yes dubya was a hateful little boy and an easy target. And Obama just doesn't trigger the same visceral despising. But come on. From the very first when he whitewashed war crimes with an airy let's just let bygones be bygones and move forward, and whitewashed corporate malfeasance in the meltdown, and just a few years later engaged in government data manipulation and propaganda in the Macando oil spill - to drone killings, NSA spying and TPP - not to mention Occupy kettling and a crazy Fed giveaway to big business in between - don't you find enough of ANYthing that you disagree with?



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
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Thursday, May 15, 2014 2:49 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
From the very first when he whitewashed war crimes with an airy let's just let bygones be bygones and move forward, and whitewashed corporate malfeasance in the meltdown, and just a few years later engaged in government data manipulation and propaganda in the Macando oil spill - to drone killings, NSA spying and TPP - not to mention Occupy kettling and a crazy Fed giveaway to big business in between

All true & why he's not getting a Christmas card from me this year!
Yeah, he's a regular tool.

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:44 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Before everyone gets out the torches and pitchforks you have to remember this comes about because a federal court struck down the FCCs last net neutrality rule stating that the FCC could not blanketly disallow deal between service provider and service providers. There is also now a two month comment period before the next step. I doubt this rule goes into effect.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


This all started back in 2010 with the FCCs wobbly rules. Who was president then?



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Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:58 PM

CHRISISALL


The tool.

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 4:36 PM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
This all started back in 2010 with the FCCs wobbly rules. Who was president then?



So the FCC should have not tried to get net neutality rules passed?

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The FCC didn't 'try to get net neutrality rules 'passed' (and by 'passed' I presume you mean have them voted on in Congress and be written into law). They drafted regulations that the usual suspects - the EFF principally, but also big-box liberal groups - were concerned weren't based in the FCCs legal mandate. Now, if they had tried to get Congress to classify the internet as a common carrier in law, or tried to find some other rationale to base their regulations on, it might have gone better.



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Friday, May 16, 2014 7:54 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The FCC didn't 'try to get net neutrality rules 'passed' (and by 'passed' I presume you mean have them voted on in Congress and be written into law). They drafted regulations that the usual suspects - the EFF principally, but also big-box liberal groups - were concerned weren't based in the FCCs legal mandate. Now, if they had tried to get Congress to classify the internet as a common carrier in law, or tried to find some other rationale to base their regulations on, it might have gone better.



That is not what I mean by passed. The FCC did indeed introduced a net neutrality rule that was struck down in federal court when internet service providers sued. The FCC lost because the court found that they did not have the authority under the rules they has used to prevent all deals between service providers and content providers. That is why we had the current purposed rule, it meets what the federal court outlined would be acceptable.

Now many people have called for the FCC to reclassify broadband into the same category as phone lines. They could do that it. However that move would also get meet with a lawsuit from Comcast and others. A lawsuit that the FCC may not win and would leave them basicly impotent.

Yes it would be nice if congress would make net neutrality law, but right now that is not going to happen since the GOP does not support it.

All that being said I don't thing this rule as it is purposed will go into effect as it is written now. I thing the public will overwhelmingly reject it and it will be modified.

If you are interested here is the notice of rulmaking.

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2014/db0515/FC
C-14-61A1.pdf


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