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Sunday, June 15, 2014 11:05 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:


If you don't get that there are vast genetic differences in different cultures.... WOW ARE YOU PHYSICALLY BLIND!



There are differences in cultures, because of cultural differences. You dolt.

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Sunday, June 15, 2014 11:17 PM

BYTEMITE


Prison/poverty and the middle east are cultural and circumstancial situations, so on this we agree. I will also conceed that some psychopaths are the result of genetics, though many are made by society.

I don't think psychopaths actually make up the significant percentage of rape. Most rapists are perfectly normal people who temporarily became very, very stupid.

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Hell, you yourself outta know. You say you have no desire to breed and very little to no desire for sexual relations. You don't think THAT'S genetic? It relates to the way your body funtions, which is controlled by DNA???



No. That was environment that was then compounded by medically induced chemical sterilization.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 12:00 AM

WISHIMAY


You really don't believe DNA can control us, do you? I know it's a disconcerting thought, but I believe it controls far far more, and so would every geneticist out there. Once you know about the myriad of little things that having a genetic disorder can control, you should get it. It would take years to list everything, it really would...

If you have DNA that constantly spits out sex hormones, you are GOING to think about sex more.

If you have DNA that tells your body to spit out adrenaline, you are going to either have anxiety or become hooked on running or playing games that are high stakes.

If your body lacks oxytocin, you are likely to be unable to connect to other people.

While DNA can be manipulated through drugs and chemicals- that end result is STILL a result of your DNA.

While it's possible the drugs you were given could have had a temporary effect it's much more likely something in your DNA was directly responsible for your sexual attitudes.


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Monday, June 16, 2014 12:06 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:


There are differences in cultures, because of cultural differences. You dolt.



There are differences in the physicality of cultures because of the limited breeding pools which caused isolation and reinforcement of mutations in the DNA.
Ignorant Twit.

See, I can call you names just like another five year old can

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Monday, June 16, 2014 12:12 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Not familiar with trash can sex, nor spectrum in this context.



BTW Trashcan sex is when neither of you are really into bonding, but one or both of you is looking for a release, and as quickly as is convenient to both parties

Not really banging a drum, but whatever is close and dirty. Like a trashcan.
Throw it away when yer done, HAH.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 12:16 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Most rapists are perfectly normal people who temporarily became very, very stupid.

I usually agree with you Byte, but not here. Rapists IMO have a neanderthal mindset. Pull her hair, do her. She happy now.
Or worse, do her- whatever, I happy now.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 1:07 AM

BYTEMITE


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Originally posted by Wishimay:


While it's possible the drugs you were given could have had a temporary effect it's much more likely something in your DNA was directly responsible for your sexual attitudes.




It's permanent. It's a particular side effect of SSRIs and how they interact with sex hormones during puberty. I didn't develop properly because of it. And I can't go through puberty again, so I'm sort of metaphorically screwed.

Unless I die early - which would be preferable - I will grow old but always have an immature and childlike mind.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 1:13 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Most rapists are perfectly normal people who temporarily became very, very stupid.

I usually agree with you Byte, but not here. Rapists IMO have a neanderthal mindset. Pull her hair, do her. She happy now.
Or worse, do her- whatever, I happy now.



I'm sorry Chris, but they aren't some unknowable evil or mental health train wreck. They're as normal as most of you people around here. You can't just walk down the street and say yep, that guy's a rapist, that guy isn't. A rapist tends to be the person you least expect, a friend, a family member.

And some of the people around here by their own admission have been fairly borderline in what they've allowed to happen or even participated in as it is. :/

Since it's normal, I guess I shouldn't judge.

But I do. Ha! I'm a jerk. :)

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Monday, June 16, 2014 1:21 AM

BYTEMITE


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There are differences in the physicality of cultures because of the limited breeding pools which caused isolation and reinforcement of mutations in the DNA.


Not in the modern times. You should see Dubai sometime, it's more ethnically diverse than New York.

Also considering our entire european stock comes from the middle-eastern Indo Aryan genetic group, we should technically be as rapey as most of Afghanistan.

We aren't, because religion. Which is culture. And that isn't necessarily all of the religions in question, because followers of those religions can actually be moderates in more moderate cultures.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:25 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Most rapists are perfectly normal people who temporarily became very, very stupid.

I usually agree with you Byte, but not here. Rapists IMO have a neanderthal mindset. Pull her hair, do her. She happy now.
Or worse, do her- whatever, I happy now.



I believe you are being unfair to neanderthals. There is no evidence that they would have been more into rape than homo sapiens.

Byte is correct. Human evolution is a result of women being looked after throughout pregnancy and labour, and afterwards enough to nurture children to independence. we evolved to care for each other and our young as social animals.


When women are treated as inferiors in a society, they are more likely to be seen as chattels for use by men. Less than men, with not the same personhood as men. In such societies, chattels are owned by men. And carelessly left out chattels may be used by other men. That is the mind set that condones male harrassment of women and condemns women for not being under the guard of their man.


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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:26 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:


There are differences in the physicality of cultures because of the limited breeding pools which caused isolation and reinforcement of mutations in the DNA.



Do you really think that other races are inferior to YOU? Sheesh, where's ya swastika?

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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:29 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:


Apparently less than 1% difference now means "vast."

And that's comparing us to CHIMPANZEES.



And Jane Goodall has found so many similarities between human and chimp behaviour. Social apes, sometimes prone to violence.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:33 AM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
From what I've seen there MUST be a gene in many Arabic and Indian men that has hormones that make them less intelligent and more aggressive when they get aroused... (relics of primitive man)




BY this argument, if you can call it an argument, there must be a gene in American men that makes them less intelligent and more prone to gun violence?


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Monday, June 16, 2014 4:48 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
From what I've seen there MUST be a gene in many Arabic and Indian men that has hormones that make them less intelligent and more aggressive when they get aroused... (relics of primitive man)



Umm... what?

What the hell happened to this thread over the weekend?

Let's just ignore pressing cultural influences like the utter non-status of women, or the actual physical lack of women that condemns especially poor, ill-educated rural men to a bleak future of never being able to have a family of their own. Let's ignore a caste system that silences victims and their families, the corruption that undermines the law.

No, it must be one reason and one reason only: genes. Indian men are just natural rapists. Also Arabic men.

(Any other brown-skinned people you'd like to include? What's your measure for "genetically very rapey" as opposed to not?)

There is a lot of nonsense on these boards, but this is pretty awful.


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Monday, June 16, 2014 8:25 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
From what I've seen there MUST be a gene in many Arabic and Indian men that has hormones that make them less intelligent and more aggressive when they get aroused... (relics of primitive man)



Umm... what?

What the hell happened to this thread over the weekend?

Let's just ignore pressing cultural influences like the utter non-status of women, or the actual physical lack of women that condemns especially poor, ill-educated rural men to a bleak future of never being able to have a family of their own. Let's ignore a caste system that silences victims and their families, the corruption that undermines the law.

No, it must be one reason and one reason only: genes. Indian men are just natural rapists. Also Arabic men.

(Any other brown-skinned people you'd like to include? What's your measure for "genetically very rapey" as opposed to not?)

There is a lot of nonsense on these boards, but this is pretty awful.




Yeah, I'm still pretty sure wish is being controversial for the helluvit.

I just like to wallow in arguments and fights, the uglier the better. It's how I was raised.

I ain't even outraged or mad at wish, I know what she's doing and what she's after. And I mostly got over the somewhat disturbing tendencies of sex life on this board a while ago. Besides, even if she's serious, we all got to hate something to be complete as a person. In addition to the general antipathy and disgust I hold towards most every living thing, I'm particularly prejudiced against vampires, police, lawyers, and politicians.

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Monday, June 16, 2014 3:22 PM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
The biggest problem with rape is more a tendency for rage and entitlement issues to transform abruptly into sexual aggression, or for both parties to be too drunk to recognize a clear "no" signal from one of the parties and stop. Neither of which are intrinsically a male problem.


There's that - with that being said however, one would have to be pretty damn drunk to not recognize a nine-iron to the face as a "clear 'no' signal"... of course, then again in some circles that'd be considered foreplay.

Still, the whole excuse of can't-control-themselves as a concept is just plain offensive to me and always will be, thus pushing that onto the female via insistence on her behavior and dress is really offensive to me.

A "man" who cannot, will not, own their own behavior is No Such Thing.

-Frem

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Monday, June 16, 2014 5:41 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Right on Frem. Shout it loudly. People who cannot control their behaviour for whatever reason are a menace to society and are not the norm.

It's what mama and papa should have taught you early. No means no. Stop throwing your toys around. Dont punch your sibling in the head. Just because you are sad or angry doesn't mean you get to hurt others. Just because you want something, doesn't mean it's yours.

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:44 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Fully dressed & working as a journalist is a far cry from drunk, barely dressed, on a stage & baring her backside. A quick butt slap or even a grab is far from a violent gang rape.


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On the continuum. Same excuses. In some societies and cultures throughout history, a bare head or ankle was enough to incite male lust and of course, the women were 'asking for it' 'knew what the consequences were' 'shouldn't have been there and doing that'

Same deal.



Bullshit MD....

You're just jealous that people would boo your ass off the speaker if you started gyrating your gelatinous cube of a body on it.



I know because in a way I got your back. If ALL women were 25 years old and sexy, or at least genetically altered to always look 25 and sexy until they died... I'd probably be one of the puppets in your freakshow....

STOP PUTTING YOU OR YOUR LIKELY MEDIOCRE LOOKING DAUGHTER(S) IN THIS EQUATION.

Sexy drunk slut in a 2-piece at a concert where Budwiser is making a quarter of a million dollars in sales........

Drunk Kim Kardashian Wanabee dances on stage, gets groped by Heidi Montag's boyfriend....

Who gives a shit?

You have enough battles to wage MD. You REALLY wanna dig your heels in on this one????

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
It's what mama and papa should have taught you early. No means no. Stop throwing your toys around. Dont punch your sibling in the head. Just because you are sad or angry doesn't mean you get to hurt others. Just because you want something, doesn't mean it's yours.



"Stop throwing your toys around", being the key phrase here. :)

"Just because you want something, doesn't mean it's yours." is a distant runner up, ladies.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:53 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Curious 6-ix - you've heard India has a serious rape problem? Do you think the saris were too revealing? Should they not have been out in public at all? What generically do you think those women and girls did to incite such behavior?
Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
On the continuum. Same excuses. In some societies and cultures throughout history, a bare head or ankle was enough to incite male lust and of course, the women were 'asking for it' 'knew what the consequences were' 'shouldn't have been there and doing that'

Same deal.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Bullshit MD....

You're just jealous that people would boo your ass off the speaker if you started gyrating your gelatinous cube of a body on it.






SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 2:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nope, 1kiki,

I'm talking about America and American idiots at American concerts where American teens and 20-somethings tend to get at least as drunk as I do on any given night.

I'm not thinking at all about India or even Puerto Rico, which I guess has been dubbed the 51st state since I've been away from the media....

Allow me to rephrase....

If you're an AMERICAN teenage slut wearing "clothing" on less than 2% of your body, dancing on a speaker at an outdoor concert, "dipping" your ass just inches away from the faces and hands of total horny male strangers.

YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.

PERIOD.

I don't know how I can make this point clearer.


Don't blame me because she had a shitty dad. My dad wanted to be better, but my mom wouldn't let him......


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 2:50 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



If you're an AMERICAN teenage slut wearing "clothing" on less than 2% of your body, dancing on a speaker at an outdoor concert, "dipping" your ass just inches away from the faces and hands of total horny male strangers.

YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.

PERIOD.

I don't know how I can make this point clearer.
you could explain to me how your argument is any different from any other argument made anywhere else in the world regarding females getting what they deserve. that's how you could make your point clearer.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 8:35 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Most rapists are perfectly normal people who temporarily became very, very stupid.

I usually agree with you Byte, but not here. Rapists IMO have a neanderthal mindset. Pull her hair, do her. She happy now.
Or worse, do her- whatever, I happy now.



Might be you're onto something ?

At the risk of making an unpopular remark ( I know, I'd NEVER want that ! ) what role does basic sexual drive , a need to reproduce , have to play in all this ? At the sub conscious level, I mean.

We are, after all, hard wired for sex.

Though I doubt very much that a rapist cares all that much if SHE is happy, afterward.

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:38 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:




BY this argument, if you can call it an argument, there must be a gene in American men that makes them less intelligent and more prone to gun violence?



I believe insecure is the word you are looking for, and yes.

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:41 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Most rapists are perfectly normal people who temporarily became very, very stupid.

I usually agree with you Byte, but not here. Rapists IMO have a neanderthal mindset. Pull her hair, do her. She happy now.
Or worse, do her- whatever, I happy now.



Might be you're onto something ?

At the risk of making an unpopular remark ( I know, I'd NEVER want that ! ) what role does basic sexual drive , a need to reproduce , have to play in all this ? At the sub conscious level, I mean.

We are, after all, hard wired for sex.

Though I doubt very much that a rapist cares all that much if SHE is happy, afterward.



Rape is not about sex, it is about power or control.

si shen



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Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:43 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:


Not in the modern times. You should see Dubai sometime, it's more ethnically diverse than New York.

Also considering our entire european stock comes from the middle-eastern Indo Aryan genetic group, we should technically be as rapey as most of Afghanistan.

We aren't, because religion. Which is culture. And that isn't necessarily all of the religions in question, because followers of those religions can actually be moderates in more moderate cultures.



Diversity is a relatively new thing. The genetics are going to flow in new way now. And yeah, America was on that list. Lot of rape here too. And from what I've seen religion doesn't keep you from doing anything, except maybe realizing you are self-deluded...

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:58 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:





Do you really think that other races are inferior to YOU? Sheesh, where's ya swastika?



What I am saying is that MEN in general are more physically violent, but that there are different triggers in races of men. Asian men lash out because of jealousy and lack of resources (knife attacks on elementary schools) White men are more likely to be insecure(stockpiling guns), men from the middle east are more likely to be control freaks(Sharia law). I don't know what the hell is wrong with Africa. Ten thousand years of competing for resources?? Self-defence gene in overdrive??

And yeah, I can go over what gene has expressed itself negatively in different races of women if you like...











BTW, I JUST LOOOOVE HOW INFLATIONARY EVERY ARGUMENT YOU MAKE IS! It's SOOO much fun. You just can't help kicking it up a notch, can you? If I was comparing the white race to every other race, I could see you calling me a Nazi, but I was comparing races of MEN, all of which have their weak spot...

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 12:03 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:


Rape is not about sex, it is about power or control.

si shen





Sorry, that just doesn't fly as a reason. I think if you walked into the nearest prison and asked guys why they do it, most would say something along the lines of "I was horny and she was there." Rape is about power in serial rapists that plan the thing(a minority), but for most guys I think it's about opportunity...

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 12:25 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:


Rape is not about sex, it is about power or control.

si shen





Sorry, that just doesn't fly as a reason. I think if you walked into the nearest prison and asked guys why they do it, most would say something along the lines of "I was horny and she was there." Rape is about power in serial rapists that plan the thing(a minority), but for most guys I think it's about opportunity...



The Politics of Rape:
Debunking the Feminist Myth
By Trayce Hansen, Ph.D.

“Rape isn’t about sex!” That’s what feminists proclaim. And they’ve declared it so continuously and persuasively over the last few decades, most of our society have come to believe it. The fact is, it’s not true—it’s a myth.

http://www.drtraycehansen.com/Pages/writings_politics.html

Purity Culture Is Rape Culture
E.J. Graff
January 4, 2013

The shocking assault in India reveals that rape isn't about sex—it's about controlling women's lives.
http://prospect.org/article/purity-culture-rape-culture

Not being a woman wishimay I do not want to dismiss your feeling but most men don't rape women in this country at least and you suggest in what you say most men can not act properly. This is false.



si shen



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Saturday, June 21, 2014 12:29 PM

WISHIMAY


And that's THEIR theory. I don't think when a group of Indian men kidnap and rape a six year old that they are really stopping to think about the message they are sending to society. I think they are saying "Me horny, me in group, they probably horny too, six year old no fight back" Thus, OPPORTUNITY!

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 12:32 PM

THGRRI


I guess we will just disagree.

si shen



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Saturday, June 21, 2014 12:54 PM

WISHIMAY


You are saying men ARE capable of control.

I am saying 400,000 convicted pedophiles
191,670 reported rapes
300,000 approx. never reported rapes
----------
about a million rapes a year


97% of the rapes in this country are perpetrated by MEN
3% are perpetrated by women

If this is men controlling themselves... holy hell do y'all need a new control switch...

And this is without getting into the murder or incidences of violence...

SERIOUSLY, GENETICS. Men have the DNA that makes testosterone, and lower levels of warm fuzzy hormones. It sure looks like to me that because of testosterone, and accompanying various genes, that statistically men aren't AS capable of self-control. Notice the AS word in there. A lot of meaning hinges on it...






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Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Wish

Men ARE capable of control. If not, every single act of sex by every man would be a rape. And since you know that every single act of sex by every man is NOT a rape (you do know that, right?) then there are OTHER factors involved besides just rape rape rape. What do you think those factors are?




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Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:04 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
You are saying men ARE capable of control.

I am saying 400,000 convicted pedophiles
191,670 reported rapes
300,000 approx. never reported rapes
----------
about a million rapes a year


97% of the rapes in this country are perpetrated by MEN
3% are perpetrated by women

If this is men controlling themselves... holy hell do y'all need a new control switch...

And this is without getting into the murder or incidences of violence...

SERIOUSLY, GENETICS. Men have the DNA that makes testosterone, and lower levels of warm fuzzy hormones. It sure looks like to me that because of testosterone, and accompanying various genes, that statistically men aren't AS capable of self-control. Notice the AS word in there. A lot of meaning hinges on it...




Wish, look at your numbers and then remember if half of this country is men. Then there are 150 million here. How small do those numbers look now. Then also remember it is the same guys doing it more than once.


si shen



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Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:29 PM

BYTEMITE


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Wish, look at your numbers and then remember if half of this country is men. Then there are 150 million here. How small do those numbers look now. Then also remember it is the same guys doing it more than once.


I've tried to explain that on a number of different topics with Wish, mostly involving sensationalism in the news media. She appears to think that if there's smoke, there's fire. I'm not sure you're going to be able to convince her.

The end result of this conversation is someone saying that we must just not care about the rapes that do happen and someone else suggesting the first person go engage in fornication with themselves in the most profane manner, and then the second person flounces off the board for five months and comes back with a ridiculous and obnoxious amount of resentment and whininess. It's pretty much inevitable and I've seen it happen too many times.

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Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:55 PM

WISHIMAY


Wait, a MILLION rapes a year (I believe to be no where close to the actual number, but...)

So, in the last 20 years there have been 20 MILLION RAPES!
60 years, 60 MILLION RAPES!!!
NOW rethink your position on men, heh?

Hello, a rational person knows smoke and fire ARE connected and gets the hell out of way!!!

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Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:37 AM

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Hello, a rational person knows smoke and fire ARE connected and gets the hell out of way!!!



Not always. Many kinds of fuel are in fact smokeless - sometimes even flameless. They can burn you depending on the chemical composition and temperature though.

Also depending on the chemicals, a sort of aerosol might form that could appear to be smoke, but without fire or burning or even high temperatures.

They can be explosive however, due to the nature of fine particulates and static buildup.

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